Nov 12, 2024 City Council Regular Meeting

>> IS THAT A GOOD EXAMPLE?

>> THEN IS THERE A PROTOCOL THAT IS IN PLACE FOR IN TOWN EXPENDITURES VERSUS OUT OF TOWN EXPENDITURES, LIKE, DO THEY HAVE A PER DIEM? ONCE AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO COMPARE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TYPICAL EDC AND A TYPICAL MUNICIPALITY.

>> THEY DO NOT HAVE A PER DIEM, SO THEY UTILIZE THE PURCHASE CAR OR PERSONAL CARDS TO PAY FOR MEALS.

CITY EMPLOYEES HAVE A PER DIEM.

DO YOU UNDER TRAVEL, WE WE GET UPPER DIEM PRIOR TO GOING.

>> WHAT DOES THE CITY'S POLICY SAY ABOUT THE PER DIEM COVERING? WHAT DOES THAT COVER IF I IF I GET THAT CHECK BECAUSE I TRAVELED, WHAT AM I PAYING FOR OUT OF MY POCKET IN LIEU OF THAT PER DIEM?

>> WELL, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH DO ANYTHING WITH THAT MONEY.

THE PER DIEM COVERS YOUR TRAVEL AND IT GIVES X NUMBER OF DOLLAR PER DAY PER MEAL.

NOW IF YOU EAT, YOU EAT, IF YOU DON'T EAT.

OKAY. BUT THEN YOU USE THAT MONEY.

>> THEN YOU WOULD ALSO EXPECT IN THE WAY OF LIKE TYPICAL SALES AND A BUSINESS LIKE THE EDC TO ENTERTAIN, RIGHT? TAKING TAKING CLIENTS AND GUESTS TO MULTIPLE MAYBE DINNER, FUNCTION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IS IT UNCOMMON TO SEE BASEBALL TICKETS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT ARE PURCHASED.

THAT THEY'RE GIVING TO CLIENTS FOR THE SOD POODLES?

>> REVIEWING THOSE THREE YEARS, YOU CAN SEE THE TREND.

MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S YES, THEY UTILIZE THAT FOR BUSINESS.

WHAT I'M GETTING TO HERE IN MAKING THE POINT OF IS IN TYPICAL BUSINESS, I RUN THE RISK ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

IF I DON'T DOCUMENT VERY WELL, THE IRS CAN COME IN AND SAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO DISAVOW THOSE WRITE OFFS AND NOW THAT BECOMES MY INCOME.

THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUE AS EMPLOYEES, CORRECT?

>> I WOULD SAY, YES.

>> IF THESE REIMBURSEMENT EXPENDITURES, WHICH HAVE BEEN IN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AREN'T DOCUMENTED CORRECTLY, THEN THE IRS COULD EASILY SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DISAVOW THOSE.

THOSE NOW BECOME INCOME, THEY HAVE PENALTIES AND TAXES DUE ON THOSE.

>> ON A PRIVATE BUSINESS, YES.

>> NO. ON THEIR EMPLOYMENT.

THEY WOULD BE AUDITED INDIVIDUALLY, SO YOU HAVE THE SAME RISK AS AN EMPLOYEE, IF YOU WERE AUDITED THAT THOSE WOULD NOW BE TREATED AS A PAYABLE INCOME THAT YOU WOULD OWE TAXES ON, AND THEN THE CORPORATION WOULD MATCH THAT, CORRECT, LIKE ANY EMPLOYEE MATCH?

>> COULD BE, YES.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY POLICIES THAT SPEAK TO IT, SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING OUT FOR OUR EMPLOYEES NOR ARE WE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR ORGANIZATION WITH CURRENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES?

>> CORRECT. ARE WE RUNNING? ARE WE RUNNING THE EDC AS WELL AS WE CAN, IN YOUR OPINION, WITH THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE NOT THERE THAT YOU'VE TOLD US.

THERE'S NO FINDINGS BECAUSE THERE'S NO POLICIES.

>> CORRECT. AM I SAYING THAT CORRECTLY?

>> YES. FROM AUDIT PERSPECTIVE, WE DIDN'T FIND ANY EXCEPTIONS BASED ON WHAT WE COULD AUDIT.

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A RECOMMENDATION IS, YES.

BRING POLICIES AND PROCEDURES SO THAT WE CAN CATCH THEM UP AND PREVENT SIMILAR INCIDENTS HAPPENING AS WHAT WE IDENTIFIED.

>> IF WE HAVE SOME LOOSE BUSINESS PRACTICES THAT COULD BE IMPROVED UPON.

THESE MAY BE A BENEFIT FROM HAVING MORE STRICT ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION THAT THEN LEAD US THROUGH THE FOUNDATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN ADDITIONAL GUARD RAILS AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES SO THAT WE NOW HAVE FORMS AND DOCUMENTATION THAT WE UNDERSTAND.

THE LOOSENESS OF USING A PERSONAL CARD VERSUS A PURCHASE CARD CAN EASILY GET AN EMPLOYEE IN TROUBLE IF THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY WEREN'T FOLLOWING PROTOCOL.

WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS IS IT'S NOT MY ROLE AS THE MAYOR AS A VOLUNTEER TO GO IN AND TRY TO DO UNILS JOB.

IT IS MY ROLE TO STAND HERE BEFORE YOU TODAY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, I'VE THUMBED THROUGH MOST OF THOSE 2000 DOCUMENTS, AND I'VE COMPARED, AND I DO SEE THE $14,000 INVOICE THAT'S COPIED TWICE, AND I HAVE GONE BACK TO MR. UNIL IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, AS YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

THAT IF WE SAY THIS AND WE ARE NOT SAYING THIS YET, BUT IF WE SAY NO FINDINGS, YOU KNOW THAT'S BECAUSE WE LOOKED.

WE DON'T WANT TO SIT UP HERE AND SAY NO FINDINGS BECAUSE THERE'S NO POLICIES, NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO, SO WE DON'T KNOW.

THAT'S LIKE SAYING, I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M OVERDRAWN AT THE BANK BECAUSE I DIDN'T RECONCILE MY ACCOUNT.

THAT'S NOT GOOD BUSINESS.

WE'VE TAKEN CRITICISM AND I DON'T MIND IT.

YOU'RE DOING TOO MUCH, IT'S GOVERNMENT OVERREACH OR IT'S COUNCIL OVERREACH AND REVISING AND AMENDING A FEW ARTICLES WITH THE INTENTION OF IMPROVING THE EDC.

NO WITH THE INTENTION OF HARMING THE EMPLOYEES OR PUSHING PEOPLE AWAY.

IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF AMARILLO, COME ON.

MAN, YOU'VE GOT FIVE GUYS UP HERE THAT ARE WILLING TO GO TO BAT FOR YOU AND YOUR CITY SO THAT WHEN YOU GET HERE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE, WE'RE TRANSPARENT, WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO ANY HARM.

WE'RE NOT PUSHING ON ANY INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE.

WE'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE THINGS THAT DON'T LOOK RIGHT IN THESE CREDIT CARD REIMBURSEMENTS.

SPECIFICALLY, TODAY, NEIL, I MET WITH YOU BECAUSE I ASKED.

I SAID, WELL, IN MARCH OF '23, THERE'S A $14,000 REIMBURSEMENT TO MR. KITTEN.

THE SAME MONTH THERE'S A $14,000 REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE EXACT SAME INVOICE TO MR. CARTER.

WELL, THAT LOOKS LIKE, MAN, WE DUPLICATED AN INVOICE.

YOU CALLED OVER THERE AND YOU ACTUALLY CONFIRMED WHAT?

>> YES. I CONFIRMED THAT THE TOTAL GOLDEN STANDARD I HAVE IS $28,000 ANNUALLY.

I HAD RECEIVED INVOICES FOR '23, '24 SHOWING THOSE ANNUAL DUES, AND THEN THEY SHOWED THE PAYMENTS THEY RECEIVED FROM THE TWO MEMBERS OF ADC.

I'M COMFORTABLE THAT THAT $28,000 IS REAL.

>> GO AHEAD, SIR.

>> JUST ON THAT SPECIFIC TRANSACTION, I WAS WANT TO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT.

WHAT ABOUT THE ONE IN DECEMBER OF THAT YEAR, THE IDENTICAL?

>> I THINK THAT'S JUST TIMING.

THE YEAR END, OUR YEAR END.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE INVOICING THAT'S ON THERE IN THE PAYMENT IT SHOWS '22 AND '23.

>> I DIDN'T HAVE THAT INVOICE IN.

>> NO. I JUST GOT THAT.

I REQUESTED IT FROM TDC.

>> TODAY, WHAT HAPPENED MR. KRAFT TODAY, I HAD NOTICED YESTERDAY, MR. PATH, HEY, I'VE SEEN THESE TWO INVOICES.

WE WANT TO VERIFY THAT WE DIDN'T DOUBLE COPY SOMETHING OR OVERPAY IT, OR MAYBE WE DID OVERPAY IT, AND THERE'S BEEN A PAYMENT COMING BACK AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT DOCUMENTATION.

YOU REACHED OUT TO THE TEDC, CONFIRMED IT'S A $28,000 PAYMENT, EVERYTHING'S ON THE UP AND UP?

>> BUT IT SURE LOOKED WRONG, DIDN'T IT?

>> THAT'S THE IMPRESSION IT GIVES.

>> WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING RIGHT BY OUR EMPLOYEES IN MY OPINION.

IF WE HAVE THIS CASUAL BUSINESS AND DEALINGS WHERE ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS PUBLIC, AND GENTLEMEN LIKE MR. FISHER DIGGING THROUGH ALL OF THIS STUFF.

THEY DON'T STOP HERE AT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

USUALLY, THEY GO TO THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS.

I WANT TO DO A BETTER JOB OF MAKING SURE WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR OUR EDC EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT HERE.

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I AGREE THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME HARM, MR. BROWN, AND I AGREE WITH YOU THIS DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, BUT I ALSO AGREE THAT WE DIDN'T PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA.

THIS IS FROM $100,000 APPROVAL ON AN ITEM TO THE RANGE THAT WAS CHANGED WRONGFULLY TO $750,000 AND THAT THE PAYMENT WAS MADE.

THAT'S WHAT SPURRED ALL THIS ON.

MR. GERBER, THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO WALK THROUGH THIS WITH US.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE STANDING BEFORE US TODAY SAYING YOU'RE DONE, OR IF YOU'RE STANDING HERE TODAY SAYING, TELL ME WHAT ELSE YOU NEED ME TO VERIFY, BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THROUGH 24, I ONLY GOT THROUGH 22 AND 23.

MR. GERBER, WHAT ARE YOU ASKING OF US TODAY?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL GUIDANCE.

IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT, YOU CAN BRING IT FORTH.

JUST NOTE THAT I'VE GOT A SMALL TEAM.

MY TIME IS A LITTLE PRESSED AND STUFF LIKE THIS.

DEPENDING ON HOW DEEP AND HOW FAR YOU WANT TO GO, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASSIST.

COUNSEL CAN LET US KNOW AND GIVE US GUIDANCE AS TO YOU WANT US TO GO.

>> LET'S ASK IF WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, AND THEN LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE ANY DIRECTION. COUNSEL MAHER?

>> YES, SIR, PLEASE. QUESTION I HAVE, WHY WOULD ONE INDIVIDUAL USE THEIR PERSONAL CREDIT CARD FOR 12 MONTHS, AND THEN ONE MONTH, USE THE P CARD WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE.

DOES THAT SEND ANY SIGNAL TO YOU?

>> I HAVEN'T ORDERED THAT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE EMPLOYEE AND ADDRESS IT.

WHAT HAPPENED? THAT WASN'T IN THE SCOPE OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.

>> ANOTHER THING, THERE'S A LOT OF INVOICES OR HOWEVER THEY WHAT THEY EVER WILL CALL THEM FOR REIMBURSEMENTS THEY SEND OVER?

>> FROM WHAT I CAN SEE DOESN'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION WITH THEM.

>> WHEN YOU SAY IT DOESN'T HAVE DOCUMENTATION, CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE?

>> I COULD, BUT WE'RE NOT.

I'VE GOT STUFF, BUT I'M NOT READY TO SHOW IT YET.

I COULD SIT WITH YOU PRIVATELY?

>> YES, SIR. I THINK IT HAD TO BE SO.

>> SOME THINGS THAT RAISE SOME RED FLAGS TO ME, ANNIE, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING, THERE ARE PAYMENTS GIVEN THAT WE DON'T HAVE SIGNED DOCUMENTS BY THE CHAIRMAN OF THE AEDC.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, WE HAVE STUFF THAT COMES OVER, SIGN, NEED REIMBURSEMENT, AND WE SEND THEM A CHECK, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT ALL SHOULD BE APPROVED.

THERE SHOULD BE APPROVALS TO THAT.

>> BUT IF THERE WASN'T AN APPROVAL, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

>> WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO BRING THAT TO THEIR ATTENTION AND SAY, HEY, THIS WASN'T APPROVED.

>> DOES THE CITY PURSUE THAT?

>> ON A REGULAR BASIS?

>> I CANNOT ANSWER THAT.

>> WE DON'T ACTUALLY VERIFY THE EXPENDITURES.

>> I DON'T THINK WE DO.

>> WE ARE RELYING ON THE MANAGEMENT TEAM AT AEDC TO REVIEW THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS AND IMPROVE WHEN IT COMES TO US.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'LL DO IT, AND HOW COME YOU DO IT? I JUST FEEL LIKE FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE DOCUMENTED, EVERYTHING, EVERY INVOICE SHOULD HAVE WHO YOU TOOK TO DINNER, HOW MANY PEOPLE, I MEAN, YOU JUST DON'T GIVE ME AN INVOICE FOR $700 AND TWO MEALS WERE DELIVERED.

I WANT TO KNOW WHO'S THERE.

I HAD TO DO THAT WHEN I WAS IN BUSINESS, I HAD TO WRITE DOWN WHO I TOOK THE DINNER, AND THERE WAS A TIME OR TWO, THE IRS, I HAD TO COME BACK PAY FOR MY OWN INCOME FOR THAT.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN AN EMPLOYEE WELL, IT'S NOT OUR EMPLOYEE, BUT AEDC EMPLOYEE, DO THEY SHOW INCOME OFF THE CARS THEY DRIVE? DO WE GIVE THEM LIKE A 1099 OR ANYTHING? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN INCOME FOR THEM DRIVING FROM THEIR HOUSE TO WORK.

>> I DO NOT KNOW. I HAVE NOT ORDERED IT I CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND COME BACK WITH THE ANSWER.

>> I WOULDN'T. APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE TO ME, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC ON WHAT YOU WHERE YOU'RE DRIVING.

>> SORRY, YOU MAY NEED TO BE MORE SPECIFIC.

I DON'T THINK IT'S REAL CLEAR IN WHAT DRIVING?

>> I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS,

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FOR INSTANCE, I DROVE BACK AND FORTH TO MY OFFICE.

>> EVERY DAY. I HAD A COMPANY, TRUCK, COMPANY GAS, EVERYTHING ELSE.

I HAD TO LOG DOWN.

HERE'S HOW MUCH IT WAS FOR MY HOUSE TO WORK EVERY DAY AND HOME?

>> I HAD TO REPORT THAT AS INCOME.

BECAUSE OF PERSONAL USE.

I JUST WONDER IF WE DO THAT WITH THE EMPLOYEES OF THE AEDC, WHETHER THEY HAVE THAT AS A PERSONAL INCOME.

>> I WILL HAVE TO GO AND LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THEM AND SEE IF THEY HAVE CAR ALLOWANCE OR IF THEY'RE CLAIMING MILEAGE, USING A VEHICLE OR IF THEY'RE USING A SITTING VEHICLE?

>> BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME PERSONAL MILES ON.

>> COUNSEL I THINK IF WE CAN GET WITH YOU AFTERWARDS, MR. GERBER, WE CAN IRON THAT OUT WITH YOU AND GET SPECIFICS FROM YOU ABOUT WHAT YOU LIKE IS LOOK AT, THAT BE OKAY.

CAN WE GET WITH YOU AFTERWARDS AND GO THROUGH THE SPECIFICS ON THAT, THAT BE ALL RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> COUNSEL, YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GERBER BEFORE WE TRY TO DIRECT.

>> WITH THE CITY, IS THERE A DOCUMENT OR DOCUMENTATION THAT GOES THROUGH WHAT INFORMATION IS EXPECTED ON RECEIPTS THAT ARE CHARGED?

>> YES, SIR. WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT CARD POLICY THAT COVERS IT THAT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU CAN, CANNOT DO, WHAT'S REQUIRED, HOW DO YOU PROCESS THE TRANSACTIONS AND SO FORTH.

>> REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE NEED TO REPLICATE THAT IN SOME FASHION BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT GIVES THAT TYPE OF DETAIL IN THE AEDC POLICY MANUAL?

>> CORRECT AND THAT WOULD BE YOUR DECISION AS TO HOW STRICT YOU WANT TO GO, BUT IT COULD BE A BENCHMARK FOR YOU TO WORK FOR.

>> COUNCILMAN SIMPSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS ON THIS ONE?

>> NO.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GERBER BEFORE WE DIRECT?

>> LET ME JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING IN THE REPORT THAT YOU DID IN THE AUDIT, EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T READ WAS JUST I MEAN, THERE WAS SOMETHING UNUSUAL ABOUT IT, AND THEN YOU MADE IT JUST HOW IT WAS RESOLVED IN THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, I BELIEVE SO.

>> ANYTHING FURTHER, SIR?

>> NO. THAT'S IT.

>> MR. GERBER, I THINK IN TRYING TO BE PRODUCTIVE.

WE REALLY AND I'LL SAY IT OUT LOUD, LIKE, I DON'T CARE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE OPTICS, I CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE, I CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD, AND I HAVE A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND WE HAVE A BOARD THAT WE NEED TO REBUILD NOW.

WE ARE TRYING TO WALK THROUGH THE VERIFICATION PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE THE BOOK AND MOVE FORWARD.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE'RE THERE YET, SIR, WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT IF I COULD HAVE A COUPLE MORE WEEKS TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE 24S MYSELF PERSONALLY, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO STAND HERE BEFORE MY PUBLIC AND SAY, LOOK, I VERIFIED IT AND I ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

IF YOU ASK ME, MR. FISHER, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A LEGITIMATE ANSWER OF, WELL, THAT WAS THIS AND IT SURE LOOKED BAD, BUT I CALLED DOWN THERE AND IT WAS A $28,000 INVOICE SHOULD HAVE BEEN INCLUDED.

THAT IS THE LEVEL OF SCRUTINY THAT WE'RE UNDER TO THAT DEGREE.

I THINK IF WE GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, THEN WE COULD ALLOW MR. HYDE TO COMPLETE WHATEVER HE'S OVERSEEING AS WELL.

THESE DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN SENT TO MR. HYDE AND HE'S DOUBLE CHECKING US.

IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN SOME OF HIS REACH TO THE STATE LEVEL AND WHAT CURRENT LAW IS AND IS NOT, SO THAT IS BEING DONE.

I THINK WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME WITH IT.

THEN MR. GERBER, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT IS YOU TO VISIT WITH US THROUGH MR. PATH, THAT WAY WE KEEP HIM INCLUDED, IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT POP UP, THEN WE WILL GO BACK TO MR. PATH, VERIFY THOSE.

THEN I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO THE COMMUNITY, HOPEFULLY ONE FINAL TIME, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT AND CLOSE.

WHEN WE'RE HOPING NO FINDINGS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE'S NO FINDINGS.

WHAT WE'RE TRYING NOT TO DO IS TO SAY THERE'S NO POLICIES AND THAT WE DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE FINDINGS OR NOT.

THE MANUAL REVIEW OF THIS WOULD GET US TO THAT POINT.

THEN ONCE AGAIN, TO DRIVE HOME THE POINT.

I BELIEVE THE AMENDMENT OF THESE ARTICLES AND THESE NEW GUARD RAILS WILL GREATLY HELP THE NEW AEDC BOARD TO FUNCTION, AS WELL AS PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES AS THEY KNOW WHAT THEIR LEVEL OF EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR THEM AS THEY WORK AND PROMOTE AMARILLO ACROSS THE NATION.

ANYTHING FURTHER, GENTLEMEN? MR. GERBER, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR.

>> WELCOME SIR.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU. COUNCIL,

[9.E. Request future agenda items and reports from City Manager]

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YOU HAVE ANY OTHER ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO PUT ON FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM?

>> MAYOR, I WOULD LIKE TO I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE MONUMENT SIGNS.

YES, PREVIOUS.

I KNOW WE'VE HAD A LOT GOING ON, ESPECIALLY WITH AEDC AND THAT KIND OF THING.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT MAYBE COME BACK IN DECEMBER IF POSSIBLE, SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND MAYBE TAKE ACTION.

>> MR. PATH, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO PUT THAT BACK ON AS A DISCUSSION, AND COULD WE DIRECT STAFF TO PUT OUT MAYBE THE PROS AND CONS OF DOING IT IN-HOUSE AS FORMAL PROCUREMENT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH STAFF.

THE DESIGN PROCESS, THE TIME, AND THE COST VERSUS WHAT WAS PRESENTED THROUGH THE AEDC? I ONLY WANT TO SAY THAT, COUNCILMAN TIPPS, BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO DIRECT IT TO STAFF.

WHAT I THINK IS IS WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION THAT PUTS US BACK TO SOMEWHAT OF A DEBATE OF, SHOULD WE BE DOING THIS WITH AEDC DOLLARS OR WITH STAFF DOLLARS? I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HEAR FROM STAFF AND HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION OF THE PROS AND CONS OF EACH.

DO YOU HAVE DIRECTION ON THAT, COUNCILMAN TIPPS?

>> WELL, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT WE HAD GEORGE HYDE ON THE ON THE LINE LAST TIME.

I THINK EVERYBODY ON COUNCIL THAT HAD QUESTIONS WERE ABLE TO ASK HIM THE QUESTIONS.

I THINK, UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO DO IT FOR THE PUBLIC, TO SAY, IS JUST TO SHOW THAT EVERYTHING WAS LOOKED AT WOULD BE THE REASON TO DO THAT, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY UP HERE GOT THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED WITH GEORGE HYDE.

THE LEGAL SIDE, THE PROCUREMENT, GOING BOTH WAYS, AND IS IT POSSIBLE? ALL THOSE THINGS. I THINK IT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO WASTE STAFF TIME.

UNLESS CITY MANAGER SAYS THAT HE FEELS LIKE IT WOULD BE GOOD.

I JUST DON'T WANT TO WASTE TIME UNLESS THOSE OF US THAT HAVE QUESTIONS AND WOULD LIKE IT.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PUSH IT, I JUST DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY TIME.

>> WHAT I MIGHT RECOMMEND, UNLESS OTHER COUNSELORS HAVE THOUGHTS ON THIS, I MIGHT GET WITH BOTH MAYOR STANLEY AND COUNCILMAN TIPPS AN OFFLINE, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AND HOW TO PRESENT THIS, WHETHER STAFF OR SO FORTH AND IF I DO THAT OFFLINE.

>> I'LL BE HAPPY TO PUT IT ON IN A FORM, WHATEVER IS THE MOST BENEFICIAL FORM ONCE WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

BE HAPPY TO PUT IT ON FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING.

GATEWAY MONUMENTS COMING INTO AMARILLO.

ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CONSENT.

[10. Consent Items]

I'D LIKE TO DO THE CONSENT AGENDA, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A RECESS.

WE'LL COME BACK IN HERE AND JUMP INTO OUR NON-CONSENT.

DOES ANYTHING NEED TO COME OFF ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, COUNCILMAN?

>> WOULD REQUEST A MOTION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THEN, PLEASE.

>> MOVE TO ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS.

WE'LL COME BACK AND JUMP INTO OUR NON CONSENT FOR TODAY. THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL OURSELVES BACK TO ORDER.

WE ARE TAKING UP OUR NON-CONSENT,

[11.A. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8168]

AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS.

MR. KENDRICK, YOU'RE UP WITH OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'LL HEAD THIS WAY, SIR.

>> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 8168.

IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ANNEXING IN THE CITY OF AMARILLO, A 253.61 ACRE TRACT OF UNPLOTTED LAND AND SECTION 12, BLOCK 9 VS AND F SURVEY, POTTER COUNTY, TEXAS, AND THE APPLICANT IS NORTHWESTERN DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, LLC, AND THE VICINITY IS NORTHWESTERN STREET AND HASTINGS AVENUE.

THIS IS A PROPERTY OWNER INITIATED REQUEST.

THE LAND IS UNDEVELOPED, BUT IF ANNEX IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A SUBDIVISION WITH AN ESTIMATED NUMBER OF DWELLINGS OF 1587, WITH COMMUNITY OPEN SPACE AND APPROXIMATELY SIX ACRES OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED.

STAFF NOTES THAT IF APPROVED THIS ANNEXATION WOULD SURROUND ONE PROPERTY THERE ALONG WESTERN STREET, ENTIRELY WITH THE CITY LIMITS AS THAT PROPERTY OWNER DID NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ANNEXATION.

STATE LAW DOES ALLOW FOR THAT PROVIDED THE GOVERNING BODY FINDS IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST TO DO SO.

AS I MENTIONED, THE OWNER WAS NOT INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN ANNEXATION AND WITH STATE LAW ABOUT ANNEXATIONS, THEY LARGELY HAVE TO BE ON INITIATED NOW.

IF IN THE FUTURE THAT OWNER DECIDES THEY WANT TO BE IN THE CITY, THEY COULD ELECT TO ANNEX AT A LATER DATE.

REGARDING SERVICES FOR THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS

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NOT SERVED WITH WATER OR SANITARY SEWER MAINS, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EXTENDING MAINS TO THE PROPERTY.

REGARDING WATER SERVICE, THERE IS A WATER MAIN PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED IN THIS MOST RECENT BUDGET CYCLE THAT WILL BE TAKING WATER UP WESTERN STREET AND THEN DOWN HASTINGS BROADWAY.

THAT IS PART OF A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE WATER SERVICE ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF TOWN AND THIS DEVELOPER WOULD GET THEIR ACCESS TO WATER FROM THAT PROJECT.

REGARDING EMERGENCY SERVICES, ALL BUT 11.7 ACRES OF THE SITE ARE WITHIN A FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE TIME OF FIRE STATION 11 AND APPROXIMATELY TWO THIRDS OF THIS AREA ARE WITHIN THE 1.5 MILE ISO CIRCLE COVERAGE FOR THAT STATION.

ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND ANNEXATIONS IN THIS AREA WILL EVENTUALLY NECESSITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW FIRE STATION IN THIS AREA.

FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT UPON FULL BUILD OUT OF THE SUBDIVISION, THEY ESTIMATE THEY WOULD NEED FOUR ADDITIONAL OFFICERS AND TWO ADDITIONAL PATROL UNITS TO COVER.

THE ADDITIONAL CALLS FOR SERVICE THIS POPULATION INCREASE WOULD GENERATE.

ANIMAL WELL SERVICES ESTIMATE THAT THEY'LL NEED ONE ADDITIONAL OFFICER AND VEHICLE TO COVER ANTICIPATED ADDITIONAL CALLS FOR SERVICE GENERATED BY THIS ANNEXATION.

FINALLY, REGARDING SOLID WASTE SERVICE, THE DEVELOPER WILL BE PAYING $400,000 OVER A 10 YEAR PERIOD TO COVER THEIR PRO RATE SHARE OF NEW SOLID WASTE EQUIPMENT TO SERVE ANNEXATION.

>> THEN UPON ANNEXATION, WE WILL BEGIN TO COLLECT PROPERTY TAXES FROM THE AREA.

HOWEVER, SINCE THIS IS IN POTTER COUNTY AND IS IN THE POTTER COUNTY ASSISTANCE DISTRICT, WE WOULD NOT COLLECT SALES TAX FROM THIS AREA LIKE WE HAVE SEEN WITH OTHER RECENT ANNEXATIONS WE'VE DONE IN POTTER COUNTY.

THAT WOULD APPLY TO THIS ONE AS WELL.

REGARDING PUBLIC NOTICES, THOSE WERE SENT AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS.

WITH THAT, I WILL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND I'LL ALSO MENTION WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY HERE AS WELL THAT CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, IF NEED BE.

>> REALLY GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL FOR BRADY?

>> THANK YOU, MR. KENDRICK. WE HAVE MR. LANGHAM HERE AND HIS ASSOCIATE.

IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THEM, WE CAN CALL HIM UP.

I THINK WE'RE IN GREAT SUPPORT OF THIS.

WE APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER AND THE BUILDERS THAT'LL BUILD THIS GOOD LOOKING COMMUNITY OUT THERE.

I THINK WE MIGHT JUST WANT TO KNOW, WHAT'S THE TOTAL IF YOU GET THROUGH ALL 18 OR 19 PHASES? WHAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOUSES? YOU KNOW THAT ONE, MR. KENDRICK?

>> ONE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-SEVEN IS THE CURRENT PROPOSED NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS.

>> ALMOST 1,600 HOUSING UNITS OUT THERE IN A BEAUTIFUL PART OF TOWN, AND ALSO WE'LL GO TO HELP SUPPORT OUR AISD CAUSE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF TOWN HOPEFULLY AND BRING IN ADDITIONAL STUDENTS TO THOSE AREAS.

VERY GOOD. WELL, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO I HAVE ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING AND I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.

>> I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8168 AS PRESENTED.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN FOR BEING HERE.

MR. KENDRICK, YOU'RE UP AGAIN.

>> THIS ITEM IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE 8169.

[11.B. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8169]

THIS IS ALSO A PROPERTY OWNER INITIATED ANNEXATION REQUEST.

THIS ONE IN RANDALL COUNTY.

THIS IS A 25.77 ACRES OF UN-PLOTTED LAND THAT IS IN THE VICINITY OF THE TRADEWIND AIRPORT, SOUTHEAST 40TH AVENUE IN SOUTH MARRS STREET, AND THE APPLICANTS ARE PEGA DEVELOPMENT LLC AND PERRY WILLIAMS INC.

THIS ANNEXATION ALSO PROPOSES ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IF APPROVED.

THE AREA THERE IN GREEN IS THE AREA THAT IS CURRENTLY OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS.

THAT AREA WOULD BE 78 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

REGARDING UTILITY SERVICES FOR THIS AREA, THIS AREA DOES HAVE ACCESS TO EXISTING WATER AND SEWER MAINS, SO IT IS CONSIDERED TO SERVE OF CITY UTILITIES.

REGARDING EMERGENCY SERVICES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STATED THAT THEY COULD EXTEND PATROLS WITH THE CURRENT BUDGET APPROPRIATION GIVEN THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF THIS ANNEXATION, SO THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY CONCERNS.

REGARDING FIRE SERVICE, THEY DID STATE THAT THIS AREA IS NOT SERVED WITH A FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE TIME CURRENTLY, AND APPROXIMATELY 30% OF THE AREA IS WITHIN THE 1.5 MILE ISO CIRCLE FOR FIRE STATION 5.

A NEW FIRE STATION WOULD BE NEEDED TO SERVE THE ENTIRETY OF

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THE AREA WITHIN A FOUR MINUTE RESPONSE WINDOW AND ISO CIRCLE, ESPECIALLY IF DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES ALONG OSAGE STREET.

AS MUCH OF THE AREA SOUTH OF 44TH AVENUE FACES THAT SAME ISSUE OF FIRE COVERAGE CURRENTLY WITH THAT EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE.

UPON ANNEXATION, THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS WITHIN RANDALL COUNTY ASSISTANT DISTRICT 1.

UNLIKE POTTER COUNTY, WE WILL COLLECT SOME SALES TAX FROM THIS AREA, ALTHOUGH BEING RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE, THAT WOULD BE PRETTY MINIMAL.

RANDALL COUNTY COLLECTS A HALF A PERCENT OF THAT 2%, SO THAT LEAVES 1.5% FOR US, ESSENTIALLY.

REGARDING PUBLIC NOTICES, WE DID RECEIVE ONE PHONE CALL ON THIS ONE.

THE CALLER SAW THE NOTICE IN THE PAPER AND JUST WAS CURIOUS WHAT WAS GOING TO OCCUR.

ONCE WE EXPLAINED THAT TO HER.

SHE DID NOT EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.

AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU ALL ON THIS ONE UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

>> QUESTIONS FOR MR. KENDRICK? THANK YOU, BRADY.

>> NO PROBLEM.

>> AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.

DO I HAVE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING, WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.

>> MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8169.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ITEM 11C. MRS. TORRES, ARE YOU UP ON THIS ONE?

[11.C. CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8170]

>> YES, SIR. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU IS CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 8170, AND THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF AN ORDINANCE TO HAVE A BUDGET AMENDMENT WITH THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET, SO THE '24-'25 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.

I THINK IT WAS HANDED OUT SEPARATELY, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION ONLINE.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE, AND SO YOU HAVE A COPY THERE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT OUTLINES THE VARIOUS LINE ITEMS WE'RE LOOKING TO AMEND WITH THIS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SECOND AND FINAL READING IN DECEMBER IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.

ON THIS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS INCREASE A TOTAL EXPENSE AMOUNT OF $1,398,101 TO SUPPORT THIS NEW WOMEN'S CLINIC.

WE HAVE THE ACTUAL LINE ITEMS LISTED IN EXHIBIT A ATTACHED TO THE ORDINANCE, BUT I THOUGHT I MIGHT GO OVER JUST HIGHER LEVEL, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST UNDER 351,000 WOULD GO TOWARDS PERSONNEL COSTS, A LITTLE OVER 140,000 TOWARDS FRINGE BENEFITS.

THERE WOULD BE $3,100 FOR EQUIPMENT.

ABOUT 282,000 FOR SUPPLIES AND THEN 621,000 FOR CONTRACTUAL.

ALTOGETHER, THAT'S THE $398,101.

I BELIEVE CASEY STOUGHTON HAD COVERED A LOT OF THE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE HOPING TO ACHIEVE WITH THESE DOLLARS.

DURING THE CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET, COUNCIL HAD AUTHORIZED THE ORIGINAL MILLION DOLLAR.

WHEN MRS. STOUGHTON WAS PRESENTING, SHE HAD MENTIONED THAT THEY COULD GO EVEN FURTHER IF WE COULD HAVE THE EXTRA $398,101.

THIS AMENDMENT ACTUALLY SETS THE FULL EXPENSE BUDGET AT THAT 01,393,101 AND THEN ADDS ANOTHER 398,101 COMING IN FROM THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND.

THERE'S NO PROPOSED AMENDMENT ON THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THOSE DOLLARS WERE ALREADY IN THE COUNCIL'S WORKING BUDGET, AND SO IF THIS WAS AUTHORIZED, WE WOULD JUST USE THAT AS A TRANSFER IN ADDITION TO THE ORIGINAL MILLION DOLLAR.

ARE THERE QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER? I KNOW CASEY'S IN THE AUDIENCE TOO AND IF THERE'S SPECIFICS THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS WOMEN'S CLINIC, WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

>> QUESTIONS, COUNCIL?

>> NO.

>> NOTHING ON THIS SIDE? IF I COULD REAL QUICK, I THINK HAVING CASEY GET UP JUST TO RECAP.

CASEY, CAN YOU SPEAK TO, AGAIN, THIS INITIAL INVESTMENT, AND THEN WHAT YOUR PLAN IS IN PLACE FOR SOME OF THE CURRENT GRANT FUNDING THAT YOU'RE JUST WATCHING CONTINUE TO WALK BY YOU?

>> ABSOLUTELY. THIS INITIAL INVESTMENT ALLOWS US TO HIRE STAFF TO REALLY SET UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE, TO PUT IN PLACE ALL OF THOSE PIECES, AND THEN IT ALLOWS US TO GO AFTER THOSE GRANTS THAT DON'T FUND THE START UP OF CLINICS, BUT REALLY WILL HELP US WITH THE SUSTAINABILITY OF THESE PROJECTS.

OUR GOAL IS TO NOT ASK FOR THIS MUCH FUNDING MOVING FORWARD,

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BUT TO BE ABLE TO BILL FOR SERVICES TO HAVE SOME FEES COME IN AND THEN ALSO TO SEEK SUPPORT THROUGH GRANTS.

>> MRS. STOUGHTON, WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD EXPECTATION ON LIKE THE YEAR ROLLOUT? YEAR 2, 3, 4, DO YOU THINK THIS COULD DECREASE BY 50% IN THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR YEARS IN FUNDING OR WHAT'S YOUR GOAL?

>> I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SAY JUST YET, BUT IN TIME, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY, CERTAINLY BY NEXT BUDGET CYCLE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A BETTER PROJECTION, DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE GRANTS LOOK LIKE AND WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO SEE WHAT BILLING LOOKS LIKE AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.

I WISH I COULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> I HATE TO SET AN EXPECTATION THAT IS WRONG EITHER WAY.

>> NO/. I'M SPECULATING AND I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO NOT. NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

I WOULD SAY, COUNCIL, WE ARE MAXIMIZING THE UTILIZATION OF OUR PUBLIC HEALTH BY DOING THIS.

WE MAY HAVE ONE OR TWO ROOMS LEFT OVER THERE ONCE YOU GET ALL THIS UP AND GOING?

>> WE'RE DEFINITELY GETTING TIGHT.

>> IF WE WERE GOING TO DO ANYTHING ELSE, WE WOULD BE LIMITED TO A SMALLER OUTREACH THAT WE COULD DO FOR MAYBE INDIGENT WOMEN, CHILDREN OR PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED OF THAT PUBLICLY.

I THINK AS WE SEE THE ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS COME IN, MAYBE WE COULD LOOK AT EVERY OPTION THAT WE HAVE OVER THERE TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF THAT DEPARTMENT. IS WHAT I WOULD GO FOR.

>> CAN I TAKE A MOMENT TO BRAG JUST A MINUTE?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> THIS WEEKEND, WE PARTNERED WITH DIANE GILMORE OVER AT THE DOWNTOWN WOMEN'S CENTER, DR. WOODBURN, A LOCAL DENTIST, AND HOSTED THE TEXAS MISSION OF MERCY, WHICH IS A DENTAL CLINIC THROUGH THE TEXAS DENTAL ASSOCIATION.

TRULY A NEEDED SERVICE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THIS IS OUR FIFTH TMOM EVENT SINCE 2011.

THIS WEEKENDS EVENT, THE CLINIC WAS HELD FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND WE WERE ABLE TO SEE 649 PATIENTS, AND THERE WAS $714,000 IN DENTAL WORK PROVIDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.

TRULY I NEEDED SERVICE AND EXTRAORDINARY WORK THAT WAS DONE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND THANK THE GROUP THAT SUPPORTED THAT AND THAT CAME OUT AND WORKED.

ALL OF THE DENTISTS, ALL THE HYGIENISTS, THE REGISTERED DENTAL ASSISTANTS, ALL OF THE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS, THEY JUST DID A TREMENDOUS JOB.

>> I THINK THE LEADERSHIP OVER THERE.

I KNOW IT WAS WAS IT DR. WOODBURN AND MRS. GILMORE, AND THEN THEY HAD JUST A TERRIFIC STAFF AROUND THEM.

YOU GUYS SUPPORTED AS WELL.

I THINK WE MAY HAVE GOTTEN OUR INNOVATION ENGAGEMENT TEAM OVER THERE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING SO CITIZENS CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN THEY GET IT PUT UP.

DID WE GET TO EVERY PERSON THAT THEY HAD? I THINK WE WERE THINKING SOMEWHERE AROUND 800, DID WE HAVE TO TURN ANYBODY AWAY OR DID THEY GET THEM ALL TAKEN CARE OF?

>> WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE EVERYONE.

THERE WERE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO SEE, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL WORK ON A SOLUTION FOR THAT.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN PLACE LIKE LET'S SAY YOU HAD 100 INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME IN FOR THAT AND THEY WERE LOCAL, WHICH I KNOW WE HAD DOCTORS FROM ALL ACROSS THE STATE AND WE DIDN'T JUST HAVE LOCAL PEOPLE HERE.

BUT IF WE HAD RESIDENTS THAT HAD APPLIED FOR THAT, WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SEEN AND WEREN'T ABLE TO BE SEEN, DOES PUBLIC HEALTH HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN RESOURCE FOR THEM?

>> NOT CURRENTLY IN-HOUSE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A NEEDED PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE.

>> I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF HEALTH BENEFITS AND THEN ALSO DETRIMENTS WHEN YOUR TEETH ARE UNHEALTHY AND SO IT CAN AFFECT THE ENTIRE ORGANISM.

I THINK IF WE HAD SOME CITIZENS THAT WERE UNSERVED, I KNOW WE WOULD LOVE TO LOOK AT THAT JUST TO SEE NOT NECESSARILY AS AN EXPENSE FROM THE CITY, BUT AS A POINT OF LEADERSHIP, COULD WE HELP RESOURCE THOSE INDIVIDUALS? DOES PUBLIC HEALTH HAVE ANYTHING? DO WE ALREADY HAVE A DENTAL CLINIC THAT ALLOWS FOR THIS? CAN WE CONTACT SOME OF THOSE DENTISTS THAT ARE LOCAL THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE SOME MORE OF THEIR TIME, JUST SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY THAT WAS TURNED AWAY?

>> SURE. I KNOW WE'RE MEETING AGAIN WITH MRS. GILMORE AND DOCTOR WOODBURN, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.

>> TEXAS MISSION OF MERCY.

HADN'T DONE IT IN FIVE YEARS, WHAT I HEARD.

>> 2019 WAS THE LAST TIME. IT WAS REALLY GREAT.

>> IS THERE A PLAN TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR, OR DON'T KNOW?

>> I DON'T KNOW. IT'S DEFINITELY A NEED.

>> I'LL QUIT ASKING THESE QUESTIONS.

>> I'M HAPPY TO END.

>> WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO GO OUT.

>> I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT IT.

>> WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO GO OUT AND GET US A DENTAL CHAIR FOR KIDS,

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BUT WE ARE ASKING, WOULD YOU HAVE ROOM FOR ONE IF WE GOT EVERYTHING ELSE GOING? LET'S SAY YOU CUT OUR FUNDING BY 50% IN THE FIRST YEAR BECAUSE OF GRANT FUNDING.

DO YOU HAVE ROOM TO DO, WHERE WE COULD BRING VOLUNTEER DENTIST IN OVER THERE OR WHAT COULD WE DO?

>> I THINK BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, WE COULD COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

>> WELL, WE'LL WAIT TILL A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING FOR ME TO ASK YOU TO GO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THAT COSTS.

LET'S SEE IF WE CAN KEEP MANAGING THESE BUDGETS AND KEEP PUSHING MONEY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANKS, CASEY.

>> COUNCIL, YOU GOT ONE IN FRONT OF YOU?

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE ACCEPT ORDINANCE 8170 AS STATED.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING BACK FROM YOU ON THAT.

ITEM 11D.

[11.D. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 11-12-24-3]

>> MISS KOHLER, ARE YOU ON THIS ONE? RESOLUTION APPROVING THE EASTRIDGE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

I SEE MR. KNOX OUT HERE AND YOU GOT SOME GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING REAL HARD FOR YOU.

>> YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

THIS ITEM IS TO HONOR OUR FOURTH RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

I JUST HAVE A SHORT BACKGROUND ON THE PROGRAM.

THEN TYPICALLY, WE DO A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY WITH SOME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT ARE HERE IN ATTENDANCE.

THE RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PROGRAM FORMALLY RECOGNIZES THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS FOR COORDINATION ON INITIATIVES RELATED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

IT WAS ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 8001 IN 2022.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS DEMONSTRATE THEIR ELIGIBILITY THROUGH AN APPLICATION PROCESS, AND THEN ARE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT BY A RESOLUTION ADOPTED BY COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE TO MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS EVERY YEAR AND REAPPLY FOR RENEWAL.

THE PROGRAM HAS ONGOING RESPONSIBILITIES FOR BOTH THE CITY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND ALSO OPENS UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR FUNDING ALLOCATION.

THE EASTRIDGE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION HAS MET THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AND HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL.

AS FAR AS PLAN PROGRESS, THE EASTRIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS ADOPTED IN 2022.

THEY HAVE DONE WORK WITH ALLEY CLEANUPS AND WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST TO UTILIZE THE ROLL-OFF PROGRAM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS RESULTED IN A MUCH CLEANER EASTRIDGE.

>> WE HAVE ACQUIRED AND ARE WORKING ON PLANNING FOR A NEW PARK.

THEY'VE WORKED ON IMPROVING COMMUNICATION AMONG THEIR VERY DIVERSE RESIDENTS WITH A COMMUNITY BULLETIN BOARD AND SOME OTHER COMMUNICATION TOOLS.

WE HAVE NEW STREET LIGHTING GOING IN, STREET CUSHIONS.

EASTRIDGE WAS THE RECIPIENT OF THE RAILROAD CROSSING ELIMINATION GRANT.

THIS IS OVER $8 MILLION OF FEDERAL FUNDS TO DESIGN AND BUILD THE NORTHEAST 24TH OVERPASS TO ALLEVIATE SAFETY AND CIRCULATION ISSUES.

THAT WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THIS PLAN.

WE HAVE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE NEW BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT GRANT.

A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE IN A PART OF AMARILLO THAT HAS NOT SEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN A LONG TIME.

I THINK WE HAVE FOUR MEMBERS.

SO I GUESS AT THIS TIME, WE CAN BRING THEM UP.

IF THEY WANT TO SHARE ANYTHING, IT'S UP TO YOU, MAYOR, IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THEM FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY.

>> COULD WE GET MR. KNOX COME UP HERE AND SPEAK AND THEN YOU SAID YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A PHOTO?

>> YEAH. TYPICALLY, WE DO THE BOARD MEMBERS WITH THE COUNCIL, WE'D LIKE TO WE'D LOVE TO FOR THAT.

>> IF WE COULD, LET'S JUST LET YOU SPEAK HERE, TOMMY, AND ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ON THIS BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN YOU OUT THERE WORKING FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

YOU'VE BEEN DOING THE HARD WORK AND SO NOW JUST BEING ABLE TO FORMALIZE THIS, WHAT'S THAT GOING TO DO FOR YOU AND BEING ABLE TO PUSH SOME GOOD COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, HONESTLY, FORWARD OVER THERE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN.

>> BUT THIS WITH THIS RECOGNITION, I'M SURE WE'LL OPEN UP A LOT OF DOORS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO COMPLETE SOME OF THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN AND SAID THAT THEY WANT TO SEE DONE IN THE EAST RIDGE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT LIMITED, BUT I'M SURE WITH THIS NEW ASSOCIATION THAT WE WILL, LIKE I SAID, OPEN THE DOOR TO A LOT OF PROGRESS, ESPECIALLY AS FAR AS OUR PLANS ARE CONCERNED.

AND I'LL JUST TELL YOU, I'M JUST SO HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.

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AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN US IN ORDER FOR US TO CONTINUE ON TO IMPROVE THE EAST RIDGE COMMUNITY.

>> WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK, LEADERSHIP, AND THEN YOUR TEAM AS WELL.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU ON SOME OF YOUR PLANS AND YOUR IDEAS, AND THEN WE WANT TO SUPPORT YOU ANY WAY WE CAN.

SO COUNSEL, IF WE'LL COME DOWN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A PHOTO WITH YOU AND THEN COME BACK.

>> SOUNDS GOOD.

>> MIX IT UP.

>> YOU GUYS JUMP HERE IN THE MIDDLE.

>> HEY, LOOK FORWARD TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS.

>> THANK YOU SIR APPRECIATE YOU.

>> WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.

MS. KOHLER, YOU'RE TAKEN CARE OF. YOU'RE FINISHED.

COUNSEL, IF WE COULD TAKE A MOTION FROM SOMEONE HERE, WE'LL VOTE THIS ONE IN.

>> MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 11-12-24-3.

>> SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 11D.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES. ITEM 11 E. MR.

[11.E. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 11-12-24-4]

PATH, YOU MAY HAVE PRESENTATION ON A NEW PATH. A FEW CHANGES.

>> MY NAME IS COMMONLY USED FOR A LOT OF SEGUES LIKE THAT.

CITY COUNCIL, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU.

I BELIEVE THIS IS MY FIRST TIME I'VE ACTUALLY PUT THEM ON THE AGENDA.

I KNOW I'VE SPOKEN A FEW TIMES ON SOME THINGS, BUT IN THE PAST, I THINK IT IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE DONE THAT.

ALLOW ME TO ONCE AGAIN SAY, THANK YOU FOR TRUSTING ME AS YOUR NEW CITY MANAGER.

I'VE BEEN HERE NOW SINCE JULY OF 20 OF THIS YEAR, AND SO I HOPE THAT I'M DOING A PLEASING JOB ON YOUR SITE.

WITH THAT, I HAVE A REQUEST FOR YOU TONIGHT.

I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE JULY.

MAKE SURE I GET THIS HERE WE GO. PRESENTATION HERE.

>> I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH YOU ALL MANY TIMES, LEARN MORE ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION, THE BACKGROUND, WHERE WE'RE AT WHERE WE'RE GOING.

I'VE HAD OPPORTUNITY MET WITH THE STAFF FROM EXECUTIVE STAFF, TO DEPARTMENT HE, TAKEN A LOT OF TOURS.

I'M NOT QUITE DONE THE TOUR.

I STILL AT LEAST ONE OR TWO MORE TO GO. I'M GETTING THERE.

IS A LOT OF BUSINESS TO TAKE CARE OF.

BUT WE'RE WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH THOSE.

OPPORTUNITY TO FAMILIARIZE MYSELF WITH THE ORGANIZATION, THE STRUCTURE, WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET DONE AND ACCOMPLISH.

STILL MUCH MORE TO LEARN, OF COURSE.

NOW WITH THIS, FROM MY OBSERVATIONS, I'VE IDENTIFIED, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE SOME IMMEDIATE ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES TO TO ADDRESS FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE HAVE SOME TURNOVER COMING ON THE HORIZON THAT WE ARE AWARE OF.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT EXISTING AND IMMEDIATE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW ARE HAPPENING AND WILL HAPPEN SOON.

ALL SIDE TO ADDRESS CITY MANAGER EFFICIENCY AND SUCCESSION PLANNING.

NOW, LOOKING AT THE CHARTER HERE, AS I LOOK AT REORGANIZATION, AGAIN, A FEW ITEMS HERE FROM THE CHARTER.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TASKED ME AND TRUSTED ME WITH THE EFFICIENT ADMINISTRATION OF THE ALL DEPARTMENTS WITH THIS.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES ONCE IN A WHILE TO MAKE SOME ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES THAT I'M SEEKING YOUR ADVICE AND CONSENT ON.

ALSO CITY COUNCIL IS TASKED WITH THE OVERALL STRUCTURE ADMINISTRATION OF ALL DEPARTMENTS.

KEEPING THOSE THINGS IN MIND.

THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY TO MAKE THESE REQUESTS BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW IS THE EXISTING ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE.

YOU SEE MYSELF, MY EXECUTIVE STAFF, WHICH INCLUDES OF COURSE, BRIAN MC WILLIAMS CITY ATTORNEY, STEPHIE COGAN CITY SECRETARY, AND AS WELL AS ANDREW FREEMAN DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, RICH GAGNON, LAURA STORES, AND FLOYD HARMAN AS MY ACMS. THAT IS THE STRUCTURE YOU SEE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS.

THIS IS HOW WE'VE BEEN FOR AT LEAST A YEAR OR TWO, MAYBE A LITTLE LONGER.

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I DO KNOW WE DO MAKE CHANGES ONCE IN A WHILE.

THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

GETTING TO MY FOUR AREAS, EXPECTED TURNOVER.

AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, FLOYD HARTMAN HAS ANNOUNCED HIS RETIREMENT PLANS, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 2026. HE HAD TO LEAVE.

AT FIVE O'CLOCK, ONE OF HIS GRANDSONS HAS THEIR VERY FIRST JV BASKETBALL GAME, AND HE HAD ALLEGATIONS TO GO TO THAT.

AND I SAID, YES, GO OVER THERE AND WATCH YOUR GRANDSON PLAY BASKETBALL.

BUT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN OTHERWISE.

BUT WITH THAT, HE HAS ANNOUNCED HIS PLANS IN 2026.

THOSE ARE TENTATIVE. HE SAID, GRAYSON, I COULD LEAVE TOMORROW.

GRAY, I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT TOO, YES.

I'M HOPING JANUARY 2026 IS TRULY A TIME THERE BECAUSE WE WOULD BE HURTING WITHOUT.

WITH THIS, AS YOU SAW IN THE LAST SLIDE, HE OVERSEES UTILITIES, AIRPORT, CPD, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

NOW THE THING ABOUT MR. HARTMAN IS HE HAS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF UTILITY EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE.

I THINK YOU'VE ALL HAD OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HIM ONE ON ONE ON A FEW THINGS.

THE MAN IS A WALKING CYCLOPEDIA ON UTILITY MATTERS AND SO HE'S A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE.

WHEN HE LEAVES, HE'LL BE CREATING A VOID. IT'S HARD TO FILL.

WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS THE NEXT YEAR ON HAVING HIM FOCUS ON UTILITIES.

AS YOU SEE THERE, HE'S GOT OTHER DEPARTMENTS THAT DOES DRAW ATTENTION AWAY AT TIMES.

HE IS VERY CAPABLE STAFF IN THERE, BUT AGAIN, THERE'S ALWAYS OPPORTUNITIES AND SITUATIONS THAT REQUIRE AN ACM INVOLVEMENT, IF NOT MINE AS WELL.

WITH THIS, I DO BELIEVE IT WOULD BE WISE THAT WE UTILIZE FYOD REMAINING TIME WITH US ON UTILITIES, AND I'LL GO MORE IN THE NEXT SLIDE HERE AS TO WHY I'M SAYING THAT.

YOU ARE ALL AWARE THAT WE HAVE A NEW PLANT TO BUILD, HOLLYWOOD ROAD.

IT IS NOT SHOULD WE, IT IS A MUST.

WE'RE UP AGAINST THAT TIME NOW.

HAVING DONE ONE IN PARIS, I KNOW THE FULL LOAD THAT COMES WITH THE PREPARATION FOR DOING THIS.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING YOU JUST PLANT AND DO TOMORROW.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.

WE'VE STARTED, OF COURSE, BUT THERE'S MUCH MORE WORK TO BE IN ORDER TO PREPARE FOR THAT AS A 300 PLUS MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.

WE ALSO HAVE UPCOMING RIVER ROAD WASTE TREAT PLANT EXPANSION.

AGAIN, NOT QUITE THE SAME LEVEL AS HOLLYWOOD ROAD, BUT AGAIN STILL A SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WE NEED TO START PLANNING ON AND PREPARING FOR.

WITH THIS HERE, MR. HARTMAN IS PURSUING SOME VERY PROMISING EXTERNAL LEADS FOR SOME ASSISTANCE TO THE CORP OF ENGINEERS.

THEY ARE HELPING US THROUGH THE ENGINEERING PHASE.

BUT THERE IS TALK ABOUT THE MILL TO HELP US THROUGH CONSTRUCTION AS WELL.

BUT THAT WILL REQUIRE A LOT OF WORK, A LOT OF EFFORT, AND MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE FOCUS FLOYD ON THIS, BECAUSE WE NEED THESE THINGS ACHIEVED, SO WE CAN SUBSIDIZE OUR RATE INCREASES THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT FOR THIS.

WITH THIS ALSO UTILITIES IS ALSO UP AGAINST LEAD AND COPPER RULE.

I THINK YOU'VE ALL BEEN BRIEFED ON THIS THROUGH SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE ON OUR HORIZON, SO WE NEED TO GET OUR DUCKS AND ROW ON THAT.

LIFT STATION REPLACEMENTS, OVERHEAD STORAGE, SANITARY SEVER LOADS, AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE.

LOT OF THIS WORK WILL EXTEND BEYOND MR. HARTMAN'S TENURE WITH US.

BUT AGAIN, THE NEXT YEAR OF HIM JUST FOCUSING ON THIS WILL BE MONEY WELL SPENT, I BELIEVE.

THIS WILL GET US THAT MUCH FURTHER AHEAD SO THAT WHEN HE DOES LEAVE, WE'RE SET UP IN THE BEST POSSIBLE POSITION WE CAN BE TO TAKE THAT REINS FROM HIM.

AS FOR THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THEY ARE ALSO VERY BUSY.

CP AND D, WORKING ON PROP ONE PROJECTS AND BOND FUNDING, WE'RE STILL WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES.

WE STILL NEED TO GET BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH THAT.

STREET DEPARTMENT PROJECTS, YOU HAVE SEEN A LOT OF BLACK ROADS GOING INTO PLACE THERE.

SO WORK BEING DONE, SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

THEN THERE'S ALSO FUTURE BOND PROJECTS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

TRANSFORMATION PARK COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S A BIG PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH JASON AND HIS DEPARTMENT THAT FLOYD IS OVERSEEING.

OF COURSE, THE AIRPORT HAS A NEVER ENDING LIST OF FAA FUNDED PROJECTS THAT MICHAEL CONNOR IS WORKING ON.

ALL THESE ARE VERY IMPORTANT PROJECTS, ALL OF THEM REQUIRE A MANAGEMENT INVOLVEMENT, AND SO THEY DO PULL MR. HARTMAN AWAY FROM WORK ON UTILITIES.

WITH THIS, I HAVE THREE GOALS.

I HAVE A GOAL HERE.

THE GOAL HERE IS, IS A TRANSITION THESE DEPARTMENTS CP&D, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AIRPORT TO OTHER ACM STARTING NOW, THAT'S ALLOWING THESE ACMS AND THESE DEPARTMENTS TO BEGIN TO ACCLIMATE AHEAD OF TRANSITION UTILITIES TO FUTURE ACM.

UTILITIES WILL BE A HEAVY LIFT, AND SO I LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OTHER ACMS TO ADAPT AND PREPARE SO THAT WHEN THAT DOES TRANSITION WITH ALL THESE CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE MIX, WE ARE SET READY TO GO SO WE DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THOSE IMPORTANT PROJECTS AND UTILITIES.

WITH THIS, MY FIRST STEP 1 IS TO TRANSITION CP&DE, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND AIRPORT THIS YEAR, 2024, THIS WILL THEN ALLOW STEP 2 FOR MR. HARTMAN TO FOCUS EFFORTS ON UTILITIES.

WHILE OTHER ACMS FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THEN STEP THREE WOULD BE IN 2026, ANOTHER ACM WOULD THEN TAKE ON UTILITIES.

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MY NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO TRY TO TOUCH ON THAT I'M TRYING TO WORK ON WITH THIS IS OVERALL THIS MY DEPARTMENT'S EFFICIENCY FROM MYSELF WITH THIS.

I LIKE TO CONSOLIDATE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE INTO ONE ACM.

THIS WOULD BE PUBLIC WORKS, FACILITIES, CP AND D, AND UTILITIES IN 2026.

I'D BE CREATING A DESIGNATION OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DIRECTOR THROUGH AN ACM POSITION.

AGAIN, TRYING TO COMPARTMENTALIZE LIGHT DEPARTMENTS WITH EACH OTHER.

THAT WAY WE HAVE SOME SPECIALTY GOING ON, THAT WAY, I CAN I CAN WHEN I'M ASSIGNING TASKS OR GETTING PROJECTS OR THE COUNCIL GIVES ME TASKS, WE HAVE ONE ACM THAT IMPACTS MOST THE ENTIRE UMBRELLA IN THAT FIELD.

THE I ALSO LIKE TO CREATE THE PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR UNDER ONE DCM, MR. FREEMAN, IS WE PLEASE FIRE MERCY MAGMENT, HE BE TAKEN ON MUNICIPAL COURT.

AND ANIMAL MANAGEMENT AND WELFARE.

THIS WILL ALSO STRENGTHEN THE FOCUS OF THREE CRITICAL INWARD FACING DEPARTMENTS, THAT'D BE HR FINANCE AND IT.

THOSE ARE THE BACKBONES OF OUR OPERATION.

THEY'RE ALSO BEHIND THE SCENES, BUT THEY DON'T GET A LOT OF FAN FARE FROM EVERYONE, BUT WITHOUT THOSE DEPARTMENTS, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OPERATE.

WE HAVE TO HAVE A VERY STRONG SUCCESSFUL HR DEPARTMENT, VERY STRONG SUCCESSFUL FINANCE DEPARTMENT, VERY STRONG SUCCESSFUL IT DEPARTMENT.

MY CHANGES TODAY WILL ALLOW SOME GREATER FOCUS AND ATTENTION ON THOSE VERY CRITICAL INWARD FACING DEPARTMENTS.

SO WE CAN OVERALL BE SUCCESSFUL AS A CITY.

WITH THIS, I'M MAKING A FEW CHANGES AND RECOMMENDS A FEW CHANGES THERE.

NOW, SOME SAY, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT IDENTIFYING WHICH DEPARTMENTS GO WHERE? ALSO YOU TRY TO CATEGORIZE DEPARTMENTS INTO LIGHT CATEGORIES.

SOME SAY, IS IT A MATTER OF NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES? IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS THAT, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF 500 EMPLOYEES, 500 EMPLOYERS.

EVERY DEPARTMENT IS DIFFERENT. EVERY DEPARTMENT HAS ITS OWN NEEDS, ITS OWN REQUIREMENTS, SOME ARE MORE POLITICAL THAN OTHERS.

SOME HAVE GREATER NEEDS IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

I HAVE TO TAKE THAT ALL INTO CONSIDERATION.

IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IS, YOU HAVE SIX TRUCKS TO SIGNS, NOT AS EASY AS THAT.

I HAVE TO LOOK AT A LOT OF PIECES WHEN I'M DOING THIS.

WITH THIS, MY LAST PIECE HERE IS SUCCESSION PLANNING.

TO ACCOMPLISH ALL THIS, I'D LIKE TO PROMOTE DONNIE HOOPER FROM MANAGING DIRECTOR TO ACM.

DONNIE IS CURRENTLY SERVING AS MANAGING DIRECTOR, BUT HE IS FULLY CAPABLE AND VERY ABLE TO TAKE ON ACM RESPONSIBILITIES.

HE WILL BE TAKEN ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE.

EVENTUALLY WOULD BE TAKEN ON UTILITIES AS WELL, IS MY INTENT IN 2025.

TO DO THIS, AS MANAGING DIRECTOR, HE'S ALSO THE PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, AND HE WEARS TWO HATS.

HE OVERSEES CIVIL DEPARTMENTS WHILE STILL BEING THE DAY TO DAY PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

NOW AS HE STEPS IN ACM ROLE, I NEED THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO STEP A LITTLE ABOVE THAT AND OVERSEE MORE AREAS.

TO ACCOMPLISH THIS, I LOOK AT PROMOTING ALAN HARDER TO PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

HE'S CURRENTLY ASSISTANT PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

THIS IS MAKING HIM THE FULL PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.

HE COMES HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BY EVERYONE I TALKED TO.

HE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB AND YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WORK WITH HIM YOURSELVES.

HE'S AN EXCELLENT EMPLOYEE DOING GREAT WORK FOR US.

WITH THIS, FLOYD HARTMAN WILL FOCUS HIS ATTENTION ON UTILITIES.

DONNIE HOOPER WILL FOCUS CP AND D AND RICH GAGNON WILL TAKE OVER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND AIRPORT, AND EVENTUALLY IN 2020 IS ACTUALLY SIX.

DONNIE HOOPER WILL TAKE ON UTILITIES.

PUTTING THAT INTO AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, WE HAVE THIS.

THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTED ONES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MOVING.

YOU WOULD SEE THAT STARTING FROM THE RIGHT SIDE THERE IN YOUR SCREENS, ANDREW FREEMAN, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DIRECTOR, HE WOULD TAKE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, THAT BEING POLICE, FIRE, EMERGENCY MANAGER AND THEN HE'D BE TAKING ON MUNICIPAL COURT AND ANIMAL MANAGEMENT WELFARE.

GIVEN HIS BACKGROUND AND HIS CREDENTIALS, HE WOULD CONTINUE TO AS PLAN AS OVERSEEING PLANNING.

HE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB WORKING WITH MS. KOHLER.

THEY ARE AN EXCELLENT TEAM TOGETHER, AND I DON'T WANT TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO, AND SO THEY'RE DOING GREAT WORK TOGETHER.

THEN YOU SEE RICH GAGNON.

HE IS OUR CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER.

SO HE HAD TO HAVE IT AND INNOVATION AND ENGAGEMENT INNOVATION.

HE THEN TAKE ON COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS KEEPING CIVIC CENTER AND TRANSIT, THEN TAKING ON AIRPORT AS WELL.

LAURA STORES, AS ACM AS OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, SHE WOULD KEEP HR, FINANCE AND LIBRARY, AS WELL AS PARKS AND REC, AND THEN SHE WOULD TAKE ON PUBLIC HEALTH AND WIC.

THEN YOU SEE IN ADDITION HERE, DONNIE HOOPER AS NEW ACM, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE DIRECTOR, BE PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH HE CURRENTLY OVERSEES AS WELL AS CITY MARSHAL, BUILDING SAFETY AND FACILITIES.

THEN BE TAKING ON ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, WHICH HAS A LOT OF COMMONALITIES WITH BUILDING SAFETY.

CITY MARSHALL AS WELL AS CAPITAL PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING, WHICH BRINGS PUBLIC WORKS, CP AND DE AND FACILITIES ALL ON THE SAME UMBRELLA.

THEN IN A YEAR HE WOULD TAKE ON UTILITIES, WHICH THEN COMPLETES THE OVERALL PACKAGE OF INFRASTRUCTURE UNDER ONE ACM.

FOR THE TIME BEING IN 2025, FLOYD HARMO WOULD CONTINUE AS UTILITIES FOCUSING SOLELY ON THAT AREA.

THEN THE FINAL STEP WOULD BE IN 2026 UPON MR. HARTMAN'S RETIREMENT.

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I WOULD THEN BE MOVING THE ACM POSITION INTO A BACK DOWN TO A MANAGING DIRECTOR POSITION.

WE WOULD GO BACK DOWN TO THREE ACMS WITH A DCM.

THEN MY PLAN AT THIS POINT HERE IS TO ASSIGN THAT MANAGING DIRECTOR UNDER DONNIE HOOPER, LOT OF DEPARTMENTS, THERE WOULD BE A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT THERE WE TAKE ON UTILITIES.

I FORSE THAT GOING TO MR. HOOPER AT THIS TIME.

WITH THIS IS SUMMARIZING IT ALL.

SO 2025, FLOYD HARTMAN WILL BE FOCUSING ON UTILITIES, GETTING US READY BEFORE HE RETIRES, GETTING A GOOD HANDOFF PREPARED FOR MR. HOOPER.

MR. HOOPER WOULD SPEND 2025 ORGANIZING HIS DEPARTMENTS, GETTING READY FOR THAT TRANSITION ON UTILITIES IN 2026.

>> MR. HARTMAN HIS POSITION AS ACM WOULD THEN BE RECLASSIFIED TO A MANAGING DIRECTOR IN 2026, WHICH I FORESEE BEING UNDER MR. HOOPER AT THAT TIME.

NOW TO RECLASSIFY MR. HOOPER AND MR. HARDER. OBVIOUSLY, THE BUDGET DID NOT CONTEMPLATE THIS.

I HAD JUST COME ON BOARD.

LOOKING AT THIS, I SEE ABOUT $67,000 INCREASE IN ORDER TO DO THIS.

NOW, I'M VERY CONDUIT WE CAN ABSORB THAT AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE BENEFITS AND THE EFFICIENCY THAT WE WILL ACHIEVE THROUGH THIS FAR OUTWEIGH THE COST OF THE ADDITION TO THE BUDGET.

WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL HAS.

WITH THIS, I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU APPROVE THE RESOLUTION.

>> QUESTIONS FOR MR. PATH.

>> WHEN I'VE LOOKED AT OTHER ORGANIZATIONAL CHARTS OF SOMEWHAT TYPE CITIES, IT SEEMS TO BE SOME VARIANCE OF SOME CITIES HAVE CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS REPORTING DIRECTLY TO THE CITY MANAGER?

YOU'VE GOT ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON EITHER WAY.

>> YOU DO NOT.

I'VE JUST SEEN IT DONE BOTH WAYS, AND I JUST WONDER THE PROS AND CONS AND WHY YOU FEEL THAT THIS IS THE BEST ORGANIZATIONAL CHART FOR THIS ORGANIZATION.

>> IT CAN WORK BOTH WAYS. MY LAST CITY, I HAD A DCM AND AN ACM, THEN I ALSO HAD DEPARTMENTS ANSWERING DIRECTLY TO ME.

NOW WITH THIS IN A BIGGER COMMUNITY, THIS STRUCTURE WE HAVE HERE WITH ACMS AND DCMS, ANSWERING DIRECTLY TO THE FRONT LINES, THIS ALLOWS ME MORE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HIGH LEVEL, WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL ON A REGULAR BASIS, FOLKS IN MORE HIGH LEVEL MATTERS, CONTRACTS AND SO FORTH.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE THE IMMEDIATE SUPERVISOR OF THE DEPARTMENT, YOU'RE IN THE DAY TO DAY OFTEN.

THIS ALLOWS ME TO STEP BACK FROM THAT AND BE MORE BROAD, MORE OVERARCHING THE ENTIRE CITY, INSTEAD OF MORE DAY TO DAY INVOLVED AND WHETHER IT'S POLICE OR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR AIRPORT BECAUSE THOSE DO PULL YOU IN.

WE HAVE VERY CABLE DEPARTMENT HEADS, BUT THERE'S INEVITABLY TASKS AND ITEMS THAT REQUIRE ALMOST A DAILY INVOLVEMENT OF THE ACM OR DCM TO BE PULLED IN AND INVOLVED IN THAT.

THAT WOULD PULL ME AWAY FROM OTHER OTHER ITEMS WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL.

>> YOUR STAFF SUPPORT IT?

>> YES. WITH THIS, I WORKED HAND IN HAND MR. FREEMAN, WE APPROACHED MR. HARTMAN AND MR. HOOPER TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH THIS.

THEN I APPROACHED THE ACMS ABOUT THIS AND THEN FROM THERE WE APPROACHED ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE GAVE ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO LOOK THIS OVER.

SO FAR WE'VE HAD VERY POSITIVE REVIEWS.

I THINK THE ONLY CONCERN IS CHANGE IS CHANGE.

OTHERWISE, IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE FOR EVERYONE.

I'VE NOT HEARD ANY NEGATIVE FROM ANYONE AT THIS POINT HERE, VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I THINK EVERYONE RECOGNIZED THAT MR. HOOPER IS VERY CAPABLE.

MR. HART IS VERY CAPABLE.

WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THEM TAKE THOSE SKILLS TO BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY AT A HIGHER LEVEL.

>> WHEN YOU CAME TO ME, I THINK I TOLD YOU WE HIRED YOU TO RUN THIS ORGANIZATION AND I NEED YOU TO RUN THIS ORGANIZATION AND IF THIS IS WHERE YOU SEE EFFICIENCIES CAN BE FOUND AND YOU'VE GOT PERSONNEL THAT YOU SEE ARE GOOD FIT.

I THINK THAT'S WHY WE HIRED YOU AS WE TRUST YOU.

I WOULD JUST AGAIN, GIVE YOU THE DIRECTION TO RUN YOUR ORGANIZATION.

>> WITH THIS TOO, SINCE WE KNOW MR. HARTMAN IS RETIRING, THIS ALLOWS US A GOOD LEAD TIME.

THE IDEA OF SUCCESSION PLANNING IS YOU PREPARE FOR SUCCESSION.

IT MIGHT BE UNWISE TO THE DAVE RETIRES, OKAY, MR. HOOPER, WHOEVER, HERE YOU GO. I'D BE A BIG HEAVY LIST.

THIS ALLOWS US PLENTY OF TIME AND MR. HARTMAN HAS GIVEN US A VERY GENEROUS HEADS UP.

IT'S UNUSUAL TO GET THE HEADS UP SO WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

I THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TIME WE'VE GOT AND GET READY FOR IT.

>> ANY FURTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? MR. PATH, I THINK YOU ARE IF NOT THE BEST DECISION, ONE OF THE BEST DECISIONS WE'VE MADE AS A COUNCIL.

THE CHANGE THAT WE'VE MADE WITH YOU WE GREATLY LOOK FORWARD TO A LONG TENURE HERE WITH YOU.

YOUR ABILITY TO LEAD THIS TEAM AND TO UNIFY A TEAM THAT HAS BEEN AT ODDS AT DIFFERENT TIMES AND ON DIFFERENT ISSUES WITH THE COUNCIL SAYS A GREAT DEAL ABOUT YOU AND YOUR SKILL SET.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO THESE CHANGES AND YOU IMPLEMENTING THEM AND WE HOPE THAT YOUR ENTIRE TEAM WILL BACK YOU AND CONTINUE TO WORK AS HARD AS THEY HAVE BEEN.

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WE APPRECIATE THE PROFESSIONALISM THAT YOU GUYS SHOW.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE BEFORE WE MAKE SOME ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES? WE'D ASK FOR A MOTION ON 11E.

>> I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 11-12-24-4 B.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM PLACE 3.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE. THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU COUNCIL.

>> APPRECIATE IT. I'M GOING TO WORK US OUT OF ORDER HERE ON 11E.

WE HAVE F AND G THAT MRS. COGGINS IS GOING TO PRESENT AFTER THIS NEXT ITEM.

WE HAVE ONE OF OUR LOCAL HEROES HERE, A FIREMAN WHO HAS TO GO ON SHIFT AT 7:00.

I THINK HE'S LEAVING US AT 6:20.

TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET TO 11H AND J, I'M GOING TO PULL US DOWN AND WORK OUT OF ORDER AND BRING UP ITEM 11H.

[11.H. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 11-12-24-7]

WE'LL TAKE UP 11J AS WE NEED NO ACTION ON 11I.

THEN I'LL COME BACK TO 11 F. IS EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT? EVERYBODY KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT? CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVING THE AMENDMENTS OF THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION FOR THE EDC.

MR. HYDE HAD TO JUMP OFF, I BELIEVE, HE WAS HEADING TO ANOTHER APPOINTMENT THAT HE HAD.

WE'VE SEEN THESE ARTICLES.

THEY'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF US.

WE'VE DISCUSSED THEM.

WE DEFINITELY HAVE FELT THE PROS AND CONS FROM OUR CONSTITUENCY.

WE UNDERSTAND THE BENEFITS IN THESE AND WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE CAN BE A CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT AS LEADERS, WE TAKE OUR TIME AND THAT WE CONTINUE TO LISTEN AND WE TAKE THIS ONE STEP AT A TIME.

NEVER REALLY DIGGING OUR HEELS IN THE GROUND AND SAYING IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY.

PART OF THE REASON THAT I PREFACE THIS IS TODAY, WE HAVE THIS ON A TUESDAY.

THESE ARTICLES WEREN'T FORMALLY GIVEN TO US UNTIL FRIDAY.

SOME OF YOU GUYS DIDN'T GET TO REVIEW THEM UNTIL YESTERDAY.

COUNCIL, I WOULD OPEN IT UP FOR A DISCUSSION.

I AM STILL AN ADVOCATE FOR AMENDING THE ARTICLES.

I SEE THE BENEFIT IN THEM AND I'M GLAD TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WITH YOU HERE.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PUSH AN AGENDA FORWARD THAT HAS LET'S VOTE ON THIS TODAY AND LET'S PUSH IT THROUGH.

NOW, I THINK AT THE BENEFIT OF THE EDC, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MOVE US FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN PUT ALL OF THIS BEHIND US AND FOCUS ON BUSINESS AGAIN AND GET OUT OF THE WORLD OF POLITICS, BUT WITH THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED AT THE BOARD YESTERDAY AND WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US.

WE HONESTLY DON'T HAVE A FUNCTIONAL BOARD.

WE DON'T HAVE THE DEADLINES THAT WE ONCE HAD, AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION HERE TODAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE COUNCIL AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADVISE AND COMMENT.

DO WE STILL HAVE A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY ON THESE ARTICLES OR WOULD WE LIKE SOME ADDITIONAL TIME?

>> NO. I JUST GOT THESE YESTERDAY.

>> THE FINAL VERSION, MORE IMPORTANTLY, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC GOT THESE TILL THIS MORNING.

IN FULL TRANSPARENCY AS WE TRY TO HELP, THERE'S NO BENEFIT FOR ME TODAY TO DISCUSS IT BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.

I SAY WE JUST MOVE IT FORWARD.

>> LET ME GO TO THIS REAL QUICK JUST SO WE CAN JUMP ON THIS.

TYPICALLY, YOU WOULD HAVE A BOARD THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THAT WOULD HELP YOU IN AMENDING THESE ARTICLES AND THAT WOULD GIVE SOME OF THEIR CONSENT.

WE'VE HAD THE ATTORNEY ON THEIR SIDE WHO HAS WORKED WITH HIM ON THIS OR WORKED WITH MR. HYDE ON THIS.

WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, COUNCILMAN SIMPSON, I WOULD ASK, WOULD YOU BE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH A BOARD PLACED FIRST BEFORE YOU TOOK THIS ON OR WOULD YOU RATHER BE THE BOARD MEMBER THAT COMES ON AFTER ALL THIS IS DONE?

>> WELL, I THINK THE PRIORITY WE PROBABLY HAVE NOW GIVEN THE EVENTS OF YESTERDAY IS TO BEGIN LOOKING AT PLACING A NEW BOARD.

I'M NOT SURE WITHOUT A BOARD OR WITH A BOARD OF ONE PERSON, HOW DOES THE EDC FUNCTION?

>> CORRECT. I AGREE.

THAT'S A QUESTION WE'RE FIXING TO ANSWER.

BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I THINK WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AS COUNCIL.

ROLLING AGENDAS, PUTTING THINGS OUT, MAKING SURE THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS IT BEFORE WE PUT SOMETHING IN PRACTICE.

I DON'T WANT TO FLIP THE SCRIPT ON THIS AND NOT FOLLOW GOOD PRACTICE.

I THINK WE'VE WORKED WELL AS A COUNCIL AS WELL.

WHAT WOULD BE YOUR EXPECTATION LIKE IN REVIEWING THESE ONE MORE TIME, TAKING YOUR TIME? WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE IN DECEMBER OR SHOULD WE PUSH IT TILL THE BOARD'S IN PLACE?

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>> WELL, I THINK I DON'T REALLY KNOW RIGHT NOW WHEN I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE ME.

I WANT TO TALK WITH ATTORNEYS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE.

OKAY. ONE THING I ASKED FOR AND I DID RECEIVE FROM MR. HYDE IS COPIES OF ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION THAT HE HAS DONE BEFORE, AND I WAS ONLY GIVEN ONE TYPE A EXAMPLE AND IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THE WORDING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.

MY QUESTION TO HIM IS GOING TO BE SINCE HE'S THE EXPERT ON THIS.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE SURE THAT I WANT TO SEE ANOTHER ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION THAT HAS A SIMILAR TYPE WORDING SOMEWHERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, I WANT TO REACH OUT TO THEM BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS IS, BOY, THIS COULD REALLY BOG THINGS DOWN.

WITHOUT PUTTING IN AN ACTION, I DON'T REALLY KNOW.

BUT IF THIS TYPE OF WORDING AND THIS TYPE OF GUIDANCE IS AS COMMON AS MR. HYDE IS SAYING, I'D JUST LIKE TO HELP HIM GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF THAT SO I CAN SEE ACTUALLY IN WRITING HOW THAT MIRRORS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING.

AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'D LIKE TO CALL THAT EDC OR SOMEONE ON THAT BOARD JUST TO TELL ME HOW THIS WORKS.

BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO IS WE DON'T WANT TO DO THINGS TO HAMSTRING. THE OPERATION.

AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT SAYING WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE TO HAMSTRINGS IT, BUT I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING TO COMPARE IT TO.

I WOULD DO MY BEST DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY TO GET THAT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE COULD LOOK AT GETTING DONE ON THE 10TH.

I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS IS COMMON, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN IT, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN MR. HYDE'S EXPERIENCE AT WRITING THESE FOR ANYONE ELSE.

I JUST WANT TO GET A GOOD IDEA OF WHO'S GOT ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION LIKE THIS AND CONFIRMATION THAT IT DOESN'T HINDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR SLOW THINGS DOWN.

I WOULD SAY THE ONE OTHER THING AND I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH DETAIL THAT YOU CAN PUT INTO AN ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION.

WE'VE SEEN THIS IN THE EXPENSES.

YOU DON'T HAVE IN THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION.

WHEN YOU FILE AN EXPENSE REPORT, YOU NEED TO HAVE A, B, C, D, AND E. WHILE THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION DOES PROVIDE A GOOD OVERARCHING GUIDING DOCUMENT, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE THE DETAIL.

I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS THE FRAMEWORK FOR SOME DETAIL THAT GIVES SPECIFIC GUIDANCE.

YOU TALK ABOUT PROTECTING THE EMPLOYEES AND PROTECTING THE BOARD.

WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS THAT WE PASS THESE AND THEN WE DON'T REALLY WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF IT AND SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING AND WE SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, I JUST THINK THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION ARE A GOOD THING, BUT ACTUALLY HOW THEY ARE IMPLEMENTED AND WHETHER THAT'S THROUGH BYLAWS OR POLICIES, I JUST LIKE TO I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK TO APPROPRIATELY MOVE THIS FORWARD.

UNDERSTOOD? YES, SIR. SORRY. I GOT YOU.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD. I WOULD AGREE WITH LESS.

I MEAN, I TO HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD SOME THINGS AND JUST AREN'T SURE.

I DON'T KNOW FROM WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD HOW COLLABORATIVE THIS HAS BEEN.

I KNOW THAT THAT WAS IN OUR STRATEGY MEETING THAT THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED THAT IT WOULD BE COLLABORATIVE.

NO, THINGS HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.

I THINK TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR, THAT I MEAN, HAVING A BOARD WOULD BE GREAT, AT LEAST SOME THAT THEY COULD MEET.

BUT I THINK OUR FOCUS HAS GOT TO BE ON THE CITY AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY.

BUT THE LACK OF POLICY, I THINK THAT WAS AT OUR EDC WAS PRETTY POOR.

I THINK WE JUST OPERATED, THE EDC OPERATED OR THE WAY THEY'VE ALWAYS OPERATED, BUT THERE WAS REALLY NO POLICY.

AND I THINK TO LESS'S POINT, BESIDES THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION THAT WE CAN NEED TO PUT IN PLACE.

I BELIEVE THERE'S GOT TO BE SOME POLICIES THAT THEY OFFERED UP, BUT I MEAN, I THINK SOME SPECIFIC THINGS TOM BROUGHT UP, AND WHEN YOU RUN A BUSINESS, THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU DO AND HOW IT OPERATES.

I THINK WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THAT.

JUST TO MAKE SURE, LIKE YOU SAID, JUST PROTECT THE EMPLOYEES TO JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO OPERATE, AND THIS IS THE WAY IT'S GOING TO GO.

I THINK IT'S COLLABORATIVE.

I THINK RUNNING A BUSINESS THEY I WOULD, I GUESS THAT THEY WOULD WANT THAT.

I DON'T WANT THIS TO EVER LOOK AS PUNITIVE.

I JUST THINK THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF POLICY AND THIS CREATED THE PROBLEM.

I THINK THAT CREATED THE EXCHANGE, I THINK FOR SOME OF SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS, BUT OUR FOCUS HAS GOT TO BE ON THE CITY AND WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD.. MY REQUEST IS THAT WE WAIT.

I THINK BY THE DECEMBER 10TH, I THINK I SHOULD HAVE ANSWERS THAT I WANT OR THE COMFORTABILITY BEING ABLE TO TALK AND GET THE ANSWERS I NEED.

>> I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

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IS NOT DO ANYTHING WITH IT TODAY AS WELL AS NOMINATED BOARD POSITIONS.

I THINK WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN A MINUTE, TAKE A LOOK AT THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION.

I THINK WHAT WE MIGHT NEED TO DO IS APPOINT SOMEBODY TO MAYBE HEAD A EDC SEARCH COMMITTEE, MAYBE SEND OUT AGAIN TO THE CITIZENS TO SAY, WHO WANTS TO REALLY BE ON THIS BOARD? BECAUSE YOU'RE COMING INTO SOMETHING THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN IT WAS FOUR WEEKS AGO.

I THINK WE DO ANYBODY AN INJUSTICE BY TAKING A LIST WE HAVE TODAY AND APPLYING IT TO APPOINTING PEOPLE.

I THINK WE'D BE BETTER IF THE MAYOR WOULD MAYBE APPOINT SOMEBODY.

WE GOT ONE BOARD MEMBER.

IF WE APPOINT SOMEBODY TO HELP GET THINGS ON TRACK.

I THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE AND I'D SAY IF WE DO IT TO THE 10TH, FINE, IF WE DON'T, WE CAN DO IT 1ST JANUARY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT RIGHT.

>> I DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING, BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING.

I THINK I JUST WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS IN NOT HAVING A FUNCTIONING BOARD AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND SO LIKE LEAVING THOSE VACANCIES.

I DON'T KNOW. I WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT, BUT COUNCILMAN CRAFT, I DIDN'T HEAR FROM YOU YET.

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT A COMMITTEE, TOM, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET A BOARD PLACED.

I THINK IT'S A PRIORITY, BUT WE NEED ARTICLES PLACED TOO.

I THINK IF THAT GIVES TIME FOR A MONTH TO GET THESE RESTATED ARTICLES IN PLACE, BUT I THINK PRIORITY IS A BOARD SO WE CAN GET EDC BACK IN BUSINESS.

>> COULD I ASK BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I'M THINKING, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M HEARING IT CORRECTLY, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE ISSUE HERE IS WE ARE NEEDING TO MOVE ONE STEP AT A TIME, BUT WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THREE OR FOUR STEPS.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE CLARITY, AS MR. BROWN SAID, WE WANT GREATER CLARITY.

WOULD IT BE BENEFICIAL TO THIS COUNCIL AND HOPEFULLY OUR PUBLIC IF WE BRING BACK A FULL PACKAGE? A LOT OF THE FEAR OR THE UNKNOWN IS IN, WELL, THESE ARTICLE CHANGES COULD CAUSE LOGISTICS, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BOGGED DOWN AND YOU'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THESE GUARD RAILS AND THESE TEMPLATES AND FORMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IS GOING BACK TO MR. HYDE, TASKING HIM ONCE MORE WITH COMPLETE THESE, BUT ALSO WITH A TEMPORARY BOARD OR A PLACED BOARD FOR A TIME.

I SHOULDN'T USE THE WORD TEMPORARY.

I SHOULD SAY, WE WOULD HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS IF WE WERE WILLING TO SERVE IN PUTTING SOMEBODY THERE.

I AGREE WITH MR. SHERLYN AND COUNCILMAN, THE 30 NAMES THAT WE HAVE APPLIED HERE, AND THE GENTLEMAN THAT I SPOKE WITH THAT SAID, TAKE MY NAME OFF, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO.

I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S FAIR TO TRY TO PLACE A BOARD WHILE WE'RE IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO TRY TO PLACE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT I THINK WOULD BRING A GOOD SKILL SET TO MOVE THIS THING FORWARD IN REHABILITATING THAT AND PUTTING A BOARD TOGETHER LONG TERM.

>> BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IF WE HAD JUST THREE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD.

MR. PATH, I'M CURIOUS ON YOUR END, AND ALSO MCWILLIAMS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF WE LEAVE MULTIPLE VACANCIES AND WE HAVE A FUNCTIONAL BOARD OF THREE OR FOUR, OR IF WE HAVE FOUR VACANCIES UNTIL WE GET A FULL PACKAGE TOGETHER, IRON OUT THE DETAILS, AND THEN TRY TO PLACE A BOARD AFTER.

>> CAN I INTERJECT REAL QUICK? MY CONCERN, I THINK THAT WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING WHAT COUNCILMAN SHERLYN SAID IS, I DON'T WANT TO HAMPER THEM, LIKE YOU SAID, WE GOT TO GET THE EDC BACK IN BUSINESS.

I THINK THE QUESTION TOO IS, DO WE HAVE A BOARD, WHAT CONSTITUTES A BOARD? I MEAN, IS THAT THREE SO THAT YOU TWO COULD MEET AND REACH QUORUM OR ALL THREE MEET JUST SO THAT WE COULD GET BACK IN BUSINESS.

WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE BRAKES ON ANY MORE THAN THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN.

I WOULD ADD THAT TO IT WITH MAYOR'S QUESTION OF WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW COULD THAT BE DONE?

>> WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT I DO THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL GIVEN THE CURRENT SITUATION RAT IS THAT THE COUNCIL EITHER INTERVIEW OR DISCUSS THESE INDIVIDUALS YOU'RE CONSIDERING FOR THE POSITION HERE.

THAT MAY TAKE ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

MAYBE DECEMBER IS A GOOD OPTION HERE.

YOU HAVE A TIME TO EITHER RE ADVERTISE IF YOU SO WISH OR TAKE THE NAMES AND THEN BRING THEM BACK IN AND TALK TO HIM OR SO.

BUT I THINK FROM WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE COUNCIL, I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A BOARD THAT YOU FEEL YOU CAN WORK WITH,

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AND I THINK YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO YOU'RE PUTTING INTO THAT POSITION.

WHAT I'M HEARING SO FAR, I'M NOT GATHERING THAT YOU ARE PREPARED TO DO THAT TODAY.

I'M NOT HEARING THAT Y'ALL ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE NAMES YOU HAVE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SURE WHO THEY ARE YET.

WELL, I THINK I THINK PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, MAYBE DECEMBER TO DO THAT, MAYBE YOU NEED TO DO.

>> I DO HAVE A POTENTIAL PROPOSAL, BUT I WANT TO LISTEN FIRST.

LIKE I HEAR WHERE YOU'RE GOING.

WHAT CONTINUE WITH WHAT YOU'RE HEARING IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, UNCOMFORTABLE, WHERE DO YOU WANT TO LAND?

>> I MEAN, I GUESS MY ASK IS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED IF WE NEED TO ASK KEVIN IS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE FOR THE EDC WITHOUT A BOARD, WITHOUT A SITTING BOARD. WE'VE GOT ONE MEMBER.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR YOU GUYS, AND WHAT DOES THAT DO? DO YOU NEED ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER TWO, LIKE WHAT DOES THAT EVEN LOOK LIKE? WHO I GUESS WE NEED DIRECTION.

I GUESS THAT'S WHAT MAYOR WAS ASKING.

>> WELL, AND WE KNOW THERE'S REQUIREMENTS BY THE LAW.

WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THAT REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR A POTENTIAL VACANCY.

MR. CARTER, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SPEAK HERE AND WE COULD ASK YOU A QUESTION OR TWO AND KEEP IT TO THAT.

>> COUNCIL HERE [INAUDIBLE].

>> THE QUESTION WOULD BE, STILL WITH THE INTENTION OF AMENDING THE ARTICLES, WHICH YOU REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED, CORRECT? YOU HAD SOME INPUT IN THIS, MR. ATKINS?

>> ABSOLUTELY. GEORGE AND I WORKED TOGETHER SINCE FRIDAY MORNING, ESSENTIALLY.

>> I KNOW YOU WERE DOWN TO THE WIRE.

WE HAD SOME SCHEDULING CONFLICTS.

WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT THOROUGHLY PREPARED AND IN FRONT OF ALL OF US.

WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THAT OUT A LITTLE WAYS.

I THINK IF WE DID BRING BACK A FULL PACKAGE WITH DOCUMENTATION FORMS SOME PROCEDURAL STUFF, IT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE FEARS OF WHAT COULD THIS CAUSE AND THEN HELP COUNCILMAN SIMPSON AND THE REST OF US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE ONE BOARD MEMBER HERE WHO'S HANGING WITH US.

DO WE NEED TWO ADDITIONAL BOARD MEMBERS PLACED JUST TO GET THEM THERE? COULD WE DO THAT HERE TODAY? WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IF WE DIDN'T DO IT UNTIL DECEMBER?

>> YOU KNOW THE CHALLENGES.

>> IF YOU GO AHEAD AND GET UP TO THE MICROPHONE SO THEY CAN HEAR YOU ONLINE?

>> THE CHALLENGE IS THAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES FIVE MINIMUM OF FIVE FOR A TYPE A. I'M UNAWARE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE LESS.

IN THE ORDINARY COURSE OF NONPROFIT CORPORATION WITH FIVE MEMBERS WOULD NEED THREE TO ATTEND ANY MEETING TO HAVE A QUORUM IN ORDER TO TAKE ACTIONS, SIMILAR TO HOW ALL RUN.

I NEVER HAVE HAD TO LOOK INTO WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU CAN'T SAT FIVE? I WOULD BE CONFIDENT IN SAYING THAT THE NEXT PROJECT THAT COULD GET CONSIDERED CAN'T GET CONSIDERED WITH ONE.

>> I KNOW IT'S NOT POPULAR AND I'M NOT PUTTING THE IDEA OUT FOR ANY ANY POTENTIAL LIKE IT'S JUST A DISCUSSION, I GUESS.

TEMPORARILY, I WOULD NEVER NOMINATE MYSELF AND I WOULDN'T SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY, BUT IF COUNCIL WAS WILLING.

IF ONE OR TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE WILLING TO SIT ON THAT BOARD FOR A FULLY TEMPORARY POSITION UNTIL WE GET THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS AND WE HAVE A STRONG BOARD THAT'S READY TO BE PLACED.

I WOULD LOOK AT IT ALMOST LIKE A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT'S SITTING ON THAT EDC BOARD.

IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO TAKE A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS SUBCOMMITTEE.

THEY COULD SIT ON THAT BOARD SO THAT THE DAY TO DAY TASKS ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF THE HEALTH OF THE ORGANIZATIONS LOOKED OUT FOR PLUS, THESE ARTICLES ARE BEING DONE.

THE ADDITIONAL GOVERNANCE AND GUIDELINES, AND WE HAVE OUR SUBCOMMITTEE THAT IS PART OF THE SEARCH COMMITTEE.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE STRONGEST BUSINESS INDIVIDUALS WE HAVE, THEY'RE STILL WILLING TO SERVE ON THAT.

WOULD YOU SEE THAT BEING A PROBLEM HAVING A TEMPORARY AND THEN PLACING PERMANENT LATER?

>> I'M UNAWARE OF ANY PROHIBITION AGAINST THE COUNCIL OR ANY ONE MEMBER SITTING ON THE BOARD.

AS FAR AS THE TIME TO SERVE THE BOARD CAN BE REPLACED ON A WHIM AT ANY MOMENT BY THE COUNCIL.

UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO FILL A ROLE, WHETHER IT'S A COUNCIL PERSON OR SOMEBODY ELSE FOR A TEMPORARY PERIOD, TO ME, I SEE NO ISSUES WITH THAT.

THEN THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE ONES LIVING IN THE WORLD OF THE ARTICLES, FOR INSTANCE, THAT ARE ADOPTED.

I'D STILL THINK IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SERVE, THEY WOULD BE VESTED IN THAT INTEREST, THOUGH.

>> THEN YOUR OPINION AS A GOOD LEGAL ADVISOR, IF YOU WERE ASKED TO SERVE ON THE BOARD, WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE ARTICLES ALREADY WRITTEN, ALL OF THE MESS CLEANED UP, THE HOUSE IN ORDER AND THEN BE ASKED TO SERVE? OR WOULD YOU RATHER SHOW UP AND BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO AS A FUTURE BOARD MEMBER,

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IN THAT IN THAT IDEA WHAT WOULD YOU LOOK AT THERE? WHAT'S SAFER FOR THE ORGANIZATION?

>> I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING OF THAT QUESTION, SITTING BACK HERE, LISTENING TO YOUR DISCUSSION, AND I'M NOT CERTAIN WHERE I WOULD LAND HONESTLY.

I GUESS I PROBABLY WOULD PREFER TO HAVE SOME INPUT, BUT THEN IF IT DIDN'T LAND WHERE I WANTED, THEN I WOULD REGRET MY DECISION TO ACCEPT THE APPOINTMENT.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE ANSWER IS, HONESTLY.

WHAT I DO PERSONALLY.

>> IT'S A IT IS A TOUGH QUESTION.

I THINK IT HAS, KEVIN, DO YOU HAVE ANY OPINION ON THAT AT ALL?

>> NO. I THINK THERE'S PRECEDENT, ESPECIALLY IN TOP B'S, WHERE THE COUNCIL SERVES AS TWO MEMBERS OR MAYBE EVEN THREE ON A SEVEN PERSON BOARD.

I THINK YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE MORE THAN TWO BECAUSE OF QUORUM RULES, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY BE.

>> COULD YOU BE WILLING TO WORK TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS. WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY WOULD BE.

I WOULD LET THEM WORK THAT OUT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS BE APPOINTED TO YOUR BOARD HERE TODAY WITH THE INTENTION OF AS SOON AS WE CAN COMPLETE A RE APPLICATION PROCESS, WE WOULD OPEN IT BACK UP, LET EVERYBODY REAPPLY.

THEN FROM THERE, COUNCIL WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A BETTER DECISION.

WE ALSO COULD MOVE THESE ARTICLES AND THESE GUARD RAILS AND GUIDELINES ALL THE WAY FORWARD.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE TO VOTE ON THEM.

THAT MAY GIVE SOME COMFORT TO THOSE POTENTIAL BOARD MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO SEE, WELL, THIS IS THE DIRECTION THEY'RE GOING. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

>> I THINK IT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP TO HAVE A BOARD BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ONE PROJECT AND THAT WE NEED TO GET APPROVED.

WE THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO APPROVE IT IN NOVEMBER.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET PROBABLY TO A BOARD MEETING NEXT WEEK, BUT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO COUNCIL ON THE TENTH PROJECT THAT'S BEEN WAITING A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

>> DID YOU NOT JUST SAY THAT IT'S BY LAW, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE FIVE.

>> EVEN IF WE HAD TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS STEP UP, THAT LEAVES US THREE, SO WE STILL HAVE A VACANCY OF TWO. WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, MAYOR?

>> WELL, I'LL JUST CUT TO THE BOTTOM LINE LIKE, I GOT THE RESIGNATIONS AND FEEL LIKE WITH THE RESIGNATIONS, I RESPECT THE FACT THAT I ASKED, HEY, IF WE CANNOT COME TOGETHER AND WE CANNOT MOVE THIS FORWARD WITH THE COUNCIL THAT'S CURRENTLY HERE, IT IS RESPECTFUL, AND IT IS A COURTESY TO STEP DOWN, AND I KNOW THAT THAT WASN'T DONE NECESSARILY IN THE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL MANNER THAT I HAD HOPED FOR, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT CAN STILL BE THE RIGHT MOVE.

I AT LEAST RESPECT THE FACT THAT THEY SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

NOW KNOWING THIS, I REACHED OUT TO ALEX FAIRLEY, AND I CALLED HIM AND I SAID, HEY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SERVE? YOU'RE ONE OF THE BEST BUSINESSMEN THAT I KNOW.

YOU'VE GOT A GREAT WHEREWITHAL, YOU'RE FULLY CONNECTED.

HE SAID, NO, LIKE, I'M NOT GETTING IN THAT MESS.

I SAID, WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO COME ON, I NEED SOMEBODY THAT CLEANS UP A MESS, I NEED A FIXER AND THEN I DON'T NEED A RUNNER.

I'LL JUST BE VERY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

WILL MILLER AT FIRST BANK, SOUTHWEST, WAS THE PERSON THAT I WANTED TO APPOINT WHEN WE STILL THOUGHT WE WERE APPOINTING A FEW.

HE CALLED ME MONDAY AND HE SAID, LOOK, I'M NOT GETTING IN THERE.

ONCE IT'S ALL CLEANED UP, I'D LOVE TO RUN IT.

I'M A GREAT BOARD MEMBER AND HE WOULD BE HE'D BE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, IN MY OPINION, BUT THEY WOULD BE LEFT UP TO COUNCIL, BUT FAIRLY WOULD BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE, I THINK FOR MAYBE SIX MONTHS.

I WOULD HOPE WITH YOU, GENTLEMEN, WE COULD BE WAY LESS THAN SIX MONTHS.

BUT LET'S SAY THAT IT TOOK A COUPLE MONTHS AND IT'S JANUARY, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF D POCH PATEL, ALEX FAIRLEY, AND THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ON THERE FOR A TEMPORARY TIME, WITH THE INTENTION OF FOUR OF THOSE ARE GOING TO BE STEPPING DOWN AS SOON AS WE CLEAN UP THE MESS.

>> WELL MAYOR, WE CAN'T HAVE THREE, CORRECT?

>> NOW, YOU JUST HAVE TO NOTICE IT.

>> WHAT'S THE QUESTION?

>> AS FAR AS THE QUORUM ISSUE, DO WE HAVE.

>> ONE THING I THINK MR. HEIDNA WILL LOOK INTO IS, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO ONLY HAVE THREE? IF THAT WAS THE PLAN? BECAUSE THE STATUTE DOES SAY NO LESS THAN FIVE.

I'VE NEVER HAD TO LOOK AT WHETHER A BOARD WOULD LESS THAN FIVE.

YOU WOULD THINK FOR A TEMPORARY ABSENCE THAT HADN'T YET BEEN REAPPOINTED, YOU COULD ACT WITH FOUR, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO DROP DOWN.

>> WE WOULD HAVE FIVE.

>> WELL, IS THERE IS THERE AN ISSUE WITH HAVING THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS SERVE? POSSIBLE?

>> I DO THINK THAT YEAH, THE QUORUM ISSUE.

>> ISSUE ON THAT. WE WOULD NEED TO APPOINT TWO OR WORK WITH A VACANCY.

TO TAKE A STEP AWAY A FAR STEP BACK.

THIS IS A POTENTIAL WAY FORWARD.

IT IS A PLAN, BUT IT'S ONLY MY PLAN.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WOULD EVEN SUPPORT.

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COUNCIL, WOULD YOU GUYS SUPPORT THE APPOINTMENT OF ALEX FAIRLEY? AND THEN THAT GIVES US DPOC ALEX AND TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THEN WE'RE ONLY WORKING WITH ONE VACANCY.

>> COULD WE POSSIBLY APPOINT GRAYSON FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME? WOULD YOU GIVE US A FIVE.

>> I MEAN I BE A VOTING MEMBER.

>> BECAUSE HE GOES TO THE MEETING ANYWAY.

>> I'M CURRENTLY AN EX OFFICIO, SO I'LL BE THERE, BUT I FEEL THAT SHOULD BE WHERE MY ROLE.

>> BUT WE'RE NEEDING IS ONE MORE PERSON FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE THERE FOR I THINK TWO MONTHS.

I'M SAYING SHORT.

>> I'M PRETTY SURE THE STATUTE READS THOUGH FOR CITY STAFF TO SIT ON THAT BOARD.

IT'S ONLY IN AN EX OFFICIO CAPACITY.

>> IS THAT WHAT IT SAYS?

>> LET ME ASK THIS. IF WE WERE NOT TO GET A BOARD APPOINTED UNTIL DECEMBER 10, WHAT WOULD THAT SLOW DOWN? THIS ONE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT?

>> IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD THAT YOU KNOW OF RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BE HAMPERED IF THERE WAS NO BOARD IN PLACE UNTIL DECEMBER 10? NOT THAT AT LEAST NOT AT THE LIKE TODAY.

>> WELL, I MEAN, I JUST WONDER IF SO I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME TO THIS BODY ANYWAY.

TO WHATEVER HAS TO BE APPROVED.

BUT FOR APPROVAL. I MEAN, THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE ON THE COUNCIL THAT'S SERVING ON THERE.

I GUESS IT COULD BE A MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL THAT ARE SERVING ON THERE.

BUT CAN ONE BOARD PERSON APPROVE IT AND SEND IT OVER TO US?

>> NO. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE FIVE BOARD MEMBERS SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THREE.

LIKE IF YOU HAD THREE BOARD MEMBERS, ALL THREE HAVE TO SHOW UP OUT OF THE FIVE.

>> COULD I POTENTIALLY OFFER ONE OTHER SOLUTION? SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> YOU KNOW, THE GOOD COUNCILMAN HOWARD SMITH IS SITTING RIGHT BACK HERE BEHIND YOU.

HE REQUIRES NO TRAINING.

NOW, WE'D HAVE TO TALK HIM INTO THIS AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN DO IT, BUT HE'S ALWAYS BEEN WILLING TO SERVE.

HE WOULD BE A FANTASTIC CANDIDATE TO JUMP ON THERE WITH THIS SEARCH MINDSET.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY TRAINED.

HE'S GOT SIX YEARS OF COUNCIL EXPERIENCE, I BELIEVE.

WE COULD HAVE FIVE AND AVOID ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO PUT US BACK OUT OF HERE WITH NO PLAN.

I THINK MY HINDRANCE IN LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS EARLIER IS.

WE DON'T LIKE THE LACK OF CLARITY, WE DON'T LIKE THE LACK OF GOOD STRONG LEADERSHIP, AND WE NEED PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO MOVE US FORWARD AND GET US OUT OF THIS MESS.

NOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH AND WORRY ABOUT WHERE THIS MESS CAME FROM AND HOW WE GOT HERE.

WE'RE HERE TODAY.

A POTENTIAL PLAN WOULD BE HOWARD SMITH, DI PAKUMAR PATEL, ALEX FAIRLEY, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WE WOULD NEED TO SEE IF ANYONE WOULD VOLUNTEER.

>> SAY AGAIN.

>> I VOLUNTEER.

>> SHORT TERM.

>> COUNCILMAN SIMPSON, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> SO LET ME GO BACK TO THIS.

I MEAN, IF YOU HAD ONE PERSON IF ONLY ONE PERSON HAD RESIGNED IN THERE FOUR PEOPLE, CAN IT STILL MEET AND APPROVE?

>> I'VE HONESTLY NEVER HAD TO LOOK AT THAT.

I'D BE HAPPY TO AND REPORT BACK.

MY THEORY WOULD BE THAT THE LAW HAS TO CONTEMPLATE SOME SORT OF TEMPORARY ABSENCE OF A MEMBER.

FOR INSTANCE, SOMEBODY WHO PASSED AWAY A DAY BEFORE A MEETING, I WOULDN'T THINK THAT WOULD TOTALLY HALT A BOARD'S ABILITY TO ACT.

I DO THINK IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE AT LEAST THREE SHOWING UP OUT OF THE FIVE SEATS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO CONSTITUTE A QUORUM IN ORDER TO ACT.

>> IF THERE WERE ONLY THREE, NO ACTION COULD BE TAKEN OR YOU DON'T YOU KNOW?

>> I HAVEN'T HAD TO LOOK AT THAT. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT AND COORDINATE WITH MR. HYDE, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE.

MY BET WOULD BE, IT MIGHT BE THE SAME ANSWER, WHETHER IT'S THREE OR FOUR, SO LONG AS THERE'S A QUORUM SITTING AND SO LONG AS ALL THREE OR FOUR SHOW UP AT THE MEETING OR A MINIMUM OF THREE.

>> A QUORUM IS DEFINED AS THREE, CORRECT?

>> IF THERE WERE ONLY THREE, THEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO SHOW UP?

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER MAY BE EASIEST TO GET US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE ON THIS ONE.

>> FOR THE MEETING.

>> WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT ON COUNCILMAN SIMPSON OPENING THIS UP FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS REAPPLICATION.

THAT WAY, ALL THOSE THAT ARE CURRENTLY APPLIED NOW KNOW THE MESS WE'RE IN.

THEY COULD REAPPLY OR HALF OF THEM MAY BAIL OUT, AND THEN ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO APPLY COULD AND WE WOULD HAVE A FUNCTIONAL BOARD MOVING FORWARD WITH EXPERIENCE WITH THE MINDSET OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE NOW DOWN THERE WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE EDC, ALL NEED TO STEP OFF WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DIPOCAM.

>> WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO LEAVE THIS GOING FOR

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30 DAYS AND THEN ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE WITH DELIBERATE ACTION ON FILLING THESE BOARD POSITIONS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

FOR ME, AND MAYBE GRAYSON CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT US COMING BACK, AND MAYBE WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AROUND TO THE INTERIM, BUT HOW I MAY LIKE TO SEE THIS IS, IF WE HAVE PEOPLE EITHER THAT IS ON THE LIST, WANTS TO BE ON THE LIST, OR WHATEVER THAT WE WANT TO NOMINATE TO BE CONSIDERED, AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ALL THE NOMINEES.

I WANT TO TALK TO THEM. ANY NOMINEE PROBABLY WANTS TO TALK TO US RIGHT NOW.

BECAUSE I'VE TALKED WITH PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THIS LIST THAT WANTED TO BE ON IT, AND THEY SAID, MAN, I'M HAVING SOME SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS.

I THINK SOME REALLY GOOD PEOPLE THAT WANT THIS DON'T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION WHERE THEY TRY TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE GOOD OF THE COMMUNITY, AND SOMETHING HAPPENS AND IT TURNS BACK AROUND.

I THINK THESE PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT TO BE ON OUR EDC, NUMBER 1, I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

I ALSO WANT THEM TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ME QUESTIONS ABOUT MY THOUGHTS SO THAT THEY HAVE A COMFORT LEVEL GOING FORWARD.

BUT I THINK WE CAN OPEN UP THE NOMINATION PERIOD IF PEOPLE WANT TO APPLY, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS US AS A GROUP NOMINATE IT DOWN TO A GROUP OF NOMINEES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THAT WOULD BE.

MAYBE THAT WOULD BE 8 OR 10, OR WHOEVER WE FEEL SHOULD BE A NOMINEE, AND THEN HAVE ENOUGH TIME, AT LEAST IN MY CASE, TO BE ABLE TO TALK WITH THEM AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THEM, BECAUSE THIS IS A CRUCIAL APPOINTMENT THAT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO BE PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT WHAT ABOUT TODAY? I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION.

WHAT DO WE DO TODAY TO GET THEM MOVING FORWARD.

>> I THINK IF WE IDENTIFY THREE PEOPLE TO PUT ON THERE, IF THREE PEOPLE CAN DO THE BUSINESS, THEN WE DO THE THREE PEOPLE.

>> WE NEED FOUR.

>> THE PROBLEM IS WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW WHICH STATES FIVE.

THAT'S THE LAW. WE GOT TO GET TO FIVE.

THE MAYOR GAVE US A GOOD SUGGESTION.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE DON'T GET TO THE FIVE AND GET THIS DOWN THE ROAD.

WHAT WE'RE DOING, JUST BEATING OURSELVES UP AND NOT ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING.

TO BE TRUTHFUL, WE'VE GOT A SOLUTION FOR A SHORT TERM, AND IN 30 DAYS WE CAN ADDRESS IT OR SOONER OR LATER, BUT WE NEED TO GET IT DONE.

WE CAN'T GO BACK AND FORTH.

>> WE'RE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION AND A DISCUSSION.

THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO GET THERE.

>> I'M HAVING A DISCUSSION.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.

>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE GOT A SOLUTION.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE SOLUTION IS MY ONLY QUESTION?

>> LET'S TAKE IT ONE PIECE AT A TIME.

ITEM 11 H. THE ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, THE AMENDMENTS.

MR. ATKINS, WE APPRECIATE YOUR DILIGENCE WITH THEM AND TRYING TO WORK FAST.

WE'RE GOING TO STAY ENGAGED WITH YOU ON BEHALF OF THE EDC, AS COUNCIL, CONNECT YOU WITH MR. HYDE.

WE WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT HYDE AND YOURSELF TO WORK FORWARD FOR THE FORMS. THE GUARD RAILS, TAKE AS MUCH OF THE FEAR OUT OF THIS AND THE UNKNOWNS.

PUT TOGETHER A GREAT BUSINESS PLAN THAT WORKS WELL FOR MR. CARTER AND THE REST OF THE EDC TO WORK UNDER, AND BRING US SOMETHING BACK.

I WOULD ASK THAT WE TAKE NO ACTION ON ITEM 11 H HERE TODAY.

BUT I WOULD ASK THAT WE GIVE THAT DIRECTION.

COUNCIL, ARE YOU GOOD WITH GIVING DIRECTION TO MR. ATKINS TO ENGAGE WITH MR. HYDE AND BRING US BACK A FULL PACKAGE.

WE'LL CALL A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE NEED TO.

WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU GOT TO WAIT UNTIL DECEMBER 10.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANCE.

WE'LL WORK DILIGENTLY ALONG WITH YOU, BUT IT DEPENDS ON HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR YOU GUYS TO PULL THIS TOGETHER.

>> YOU BET, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY OUR NEXT PLAN.

>> THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCIL, ARE YOU GOOD WITH GIVING THAT DIRECTION OR DO YOU WANT TO ALTER THAT?

>> I'M GOOD WITH THAT DIRECTION.

THAT WAY WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.

>> I'M GOOD.

>> MR. PAT, YOU GOT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO? MOVING FORWARD ON 11 H, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION.

THEN ON 11 I, WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION BECAUSE OF THE RESIGNATION.

[11.I. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 11-12-24-8]

THEN ON 11 J,

[11.J. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - AMARILLO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION BOARD MEMBERS]

WE ARE HERE TODAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF COUNCIL WOULD BE WILLING TO.

WE HAVE MR. PATEL CURRENTLY SERVING.

I WOULD NOMINATE ALEX FAIRLEY TO SERVE IN A TEMPORARY CAPACITY UNTIL ALL OF OUR FULL PACKAGE IS COMPLETED AND THE FULL BOARD IS READY TO BE PLACED.

I'M NOT NOMINATING ANYONE FURTHER, BUT I DID POINT OUT HOWARD SMITH, WHO WOULD BE A GREAT ASSET FOR THIS IF HE'S WILLING TO DO IT.

THEN WE HAD TWO VOLUNTEERS, COUNCILMAN TIPPS AND COUNCILMAN CRAFT.

COUNCIL, NOW WOULD BE YOUR TIME TO EITHER AGREE,

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MAKE A MOTION OR GIVE AN ALTERNATE PLAN.

>> IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS EVEN THE NEXT MEETING, WE MAY HAVE NEW APPLICANTS, BEING ABLE TO SPEAK TO THEM, INTERVIEW THEM, WHATEVER, AND WE MAY ABLE TO PLACE THEM PERMANENTLY, HOPEFULLY.

>> WE NEED TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO TAKE APPLICATIONS.

THAT WOULD BE A STEP FURTHER FOR THE SEARCH COMMITTEE OF WHICH YOU JUST VOLUNTEERED FOR.

>> THAT WASN'T STATED.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I'M SAYING IT IN THE RIGHT WAY, YOU GET TO DIRECT WHETHER WE ARE TAKING APPLICATIONS OR WE ARE MAKING NOMINATIONS.

IN SERVING IN THAT TEMPORARY CAPACITY, YOU NOW HAVE MULTIPLE GOALS.

ONE, FINALIZE THE FULL PACKAGE AND TAKE AS MUCH UNKNOWN OUT OF THIS ALONG WITH THE LEGAL COUNSEL TO KEEP THE EDC RUNNING FORWARD, AND DO EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO TO FACILITATE BUSINESS.

THREE, FACILITATE THE SEARCH COMMITTEE ON BEHALF OF THIS BODY.

>> BUT WE'RE DOING THE SEARCH.

COUNCIL IS DOING THE SEARCH, NOT THE BOARD.

>> NO, BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE SEARCH CONDUCTED WITH DEPOCH AND MR. FAIRLEY, AND THE COUNSEL THAT WE HAVE REPRESENTING THAT.

I BELIEVE EITHER WE DO AN OPEN APPLICATION AND WE BRING ALL THOSE IN, AND THEN THEY ALL COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO DIRECT IT, YOU COULD GO OUT AND DO YOUR OWN SEARCH.

>> MY OPINION IS, IF WE'RE GOING TO FILL THIS BOARD TEMPORARILY, OPEN IT BACK UP FOR APPLICATIONS AND THE COUNCIL CAN VET THOSE PEOPLE AND MAKE THE APPOINTMENT THAT WAY.

THIS IS SENDING A SEARCH COMMITTEE DOWN WITH YOUR TEMPORARY BOARD. THAT'S MY OPINION.

>> WHO WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT REOPENING APPLICATIONS FOR THESE POSITIONS? I WOULD GO THAT WAY WITH YOU, COUNCILMAN CRAFT.

ON THE APPLICATIONS, WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME CONTACT INFORMATION, THAT WE CAN CALL THESE PEOPLE.

>> I WOULD AGREE WITH REOPENING THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE FULL STORY, LET THEM DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO VOLUNTEER OR NOT.

>> COUNCILMAN SIMPSON, WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> I AGREE. LET'S JUST GET IT DONE AND DO IT, AND SET A DEADLINE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> IF WE HAVE A PATH FORWARD HERE WITH TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, THREE CITIZENS, ONE OF WHICH IS VERY EXPERIENCED, SERVING IN THIS CAPACITY WITH THE INTENTION OF, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NOMINEES, AND ANY OF THESE PEOPLE.

HOWARD SMITH IS CURRENTLY AN APPLICANT AND STILL WANTS TO SERVE FOR A THREE-YEAR TERM, SO HE'S NOT EXCLUDED FROM SERVING FOR THREE YEARS, HE WOULD JUST BE WILLING TO SERVE UNDERNEATH THIS TEMPORARY CAPACITY IS WHAT I'D BE ASKING MR. SMITH.

BUT THEN WE COULD DIRECT THE CITY SECRETARY TO PUT THESE BACK OPEN FOR 30 DAYS, AND I THINK DECEMBER 10 IS A GREAT GOAL.

>> DECEMBER 10 TO DO WHAT?

>> TO BRING THESE BACK TO COUNCIL?

>> TO APPOINT A NEW BOARD ON DECEMBER 10?

>> I WOULD LOVE THAT.

>> I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IF WE HAVE APPLICATIONS, I'D LIKE TO BRING BACK TO COUNCIL AND GO THROUGH AND SEE.

WE COULD NOMINATE OUR OWN PEOPLE EVEN THEY DON'T APPLY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IF WE WANTED TO NOMINATE A GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE'D WANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR IT.

>> DO YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A DISCUSSION ON THE 10TH TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE NOMINATIONS AND GIVE OUR PUBLIC AN UPDATE, OR WOULD YOU RATHER WAIT TILL JANUARY TILL WE HAD ALL OF THE HOMEWORK COMPLETED?

>> I THINK SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

>> CAN I SAY SOMETHING REAL QUICK?

>> THIS IS WHERE I ENVISION IT, SO THIS TEMPORARY BOARD.

CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING AT ALL.

WE FINISH, WE GET THE PACKAGE COMPLETED, EVERYTHING IS SET IN STONE, HOW IT NEEDS TO BE.

DURING THAT TIME FRAME, WE HAVE THE APPLICATION PROCESS GOING ON.

ONCE THIS IS ALL COMPLETED, WE'VE ALL VETTED OUR APPLICANTS THAT WE WANT, AND AFTER ALL THAT'S DONE, THAT BOARD'S APPOINTED, YOUR TEMPORARY BOARD IS OUT.

IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? THAT'S THE WAY IT MAKES SENSE IN MY HEAD.

>> LET ME GO BACK. MY MISTAKE IS IN THINKING WE COULD HAVE SOMETHING READY TO VOTE ON IN DECEMBER.

I UNDERSTAND THAT CAN'T HAPPEN, BUT YOU COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT POOL FINALIZED, AND YOU COULD BE IN THE INTERVIEW PROCESS BY THAT TIME, AND THEN WE WOULD BE TRYING TO PLACE A NEW BOARD IN JANUARY, POTENTIALLY.

>> THAT'S IF YOU HOLD THE APPLICATION PROCESS FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS.

>> WOULD YOU WANT TO HOLD IT FOR LESS TIME?

>> THAT'S A POSSIBILITY, BECAUSE MOST OF THE PEOPLE, IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE OUT THERE, THE MEDIA IS GOING TO CARRY IT.

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THE WORD IS GOING TO BE OUT THERE PRETTY QUICK, SO MAY WE HOLD IT OPEN? I DON'T WANT TO RUSH THINGS.

I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE.

I KNOW YOU MIGHT WANT TO WEIGH IN IF THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS OPEN FOR TWO WEEKS.

THEN WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEM, OR LIKE YOU SAID, BRING OUR OWN NOMINEES, WHATEVER, BUT THEN WE MAY HAVE TIME TO PLACE THOSE ON.

>> MAY I ASK A QUESTION?

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> WE'VE GOT 29 APPLICANTS FOR THE AEDC BOARD, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO REACH OUT TO THOSE APPLICANTS AND SEE IF THEY ARE STILL INTERESTED IN SERVING AT THIS TIME?

>> I'M NOT SURE YET, SO LET ME TABLE THAT QUESTION AND COME BACK TO IT.

I'M CURIOUS. I THINK WE'RE LIMITING OURSELVES TO THIS DECEMBER 10, THINKING THAT'S THE ONE MEETING TIME.

I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD SPECIAL SESSION, AND WE CALL IT IN ORDER TO BRING BACK ALL THESE ARTICLES.

WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL POLICIES, PROCEDURES, AND WE HAVE THE BOARD ALL COMING BACK.

I THINK THAT HONESTLY, IT'D BE THE THIRD WEEK OF DECEMBER IF COUNCIL IS WILLING. NOT CHRISTMAS.

NO, THAT'S FOURTH WEEK, SO WE'D BE LOOKING BEFORE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE WOULD ENTERTAIN AND GIVING OURSELVES ENOUGH TIME TO OPEN THIS UP, CONTACT MAYBE WITH MRS. COGGINS, SEE WHO'S STILL WILLING TO SERVE, AND THEN PLACE THESE TEMPORARY BOARD MEMBERS TO KEEP YOU FUNCTIONING, KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME NEEDS COMING BACK POTENTIALLY DECEMBER OR IF YOU NEEDED TO MEET WITH US BEFORE.

>> I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE HAVING A SPECIAL SESSION IN DECEMBER.

>> I THINK IT WARRANTS IT WITH THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE'RE IN.

>> BECAUSE IF WE NEEDED TO TAKE TIME ON THE BOARD APPOINTMENTS IN THAT NATURE, I FEEL THAT THE TEMPORARY BOARD CAN HANDLE BUSINESS.

I'M MISCONSTRUING WHAT THE RUSH IS ON DOING A MEETING IN DECEMBER TO FINALIZE EVERYTHING.

>> WE DON'T HAVE TO RUSH. WE CAN OPEN 30 DAYS IF WE WANT TO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'RE GOING TO GET IN AFTER TWO WEEKS.

BUT AGAIN, NOT TO RUSH FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING, WE CAN STILL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING WITH THE FULL PACKAGE AND POSSIBLY APPOINT THE NEW BOARD.

>> LET'S GO ONE STEP AT A TIME.

WE NEED TO PLACE FIVE.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A POTENTIAL OUTCOME THERE.

THEN WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF ON APPLICANTS.

WE COULD CALL A SPECIAL SESSION IF WE WE'RE READY OR WE CAN WAIT UNTIL JANUARY.

WHAT WOULD BE THE HARM IN OPENING THIS BACK UP FOR 30 DAYS SO THAT STAFF HAS PLENTY OF TIME? JOHN, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF WORK IN FRONT OF YOU, SO WE COULD TAKE THEM INDIVIDUALLY AT TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS OR WE CAN BRING THEM BACK SAME TIME, BUT WE'RE LOOKING JANUARY AS A GOAL.

COUNCIL, ARE YOU-ALL OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PACE?

>> YOU SAID ONE STEP AT THE TIME, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ARTICLES.

>> OPENING BACK UP THE APPLICATION POOL FOR 30 DAYS, GETTING ALL THOSE IN, ALLOWING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS TO HAPPEN, KNOWING THAT'S GOING TO PUT YOU INTO A JANUARY MEETING BEFORE YOU WOULD BE PLACING NEW BOARD MEMBERS?

>> SURE, WE COULD GO AT THAT PACE.

>> BUT ARE WE GOING TO IDENTIFY OUT OF THE 30 OR 40 THAT APPLY? ARE WE GOING TO NARROW THAT DOWN TO A LIST OF WHO WHO WE CONSIDER?

>> NOT IN THIS FORMAT.

EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD INTERVIEW THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY WOULD WANT, OR NOMINATE THEIR OWN.

IT WOULD COME TO A REGULAR MEETING LIKE WE WOULD NORMALLY DO WHERE YOU MAY NOMINATE SOMEBODY, THEY MAY NOMINATE SOMEONE.

WE WOULDN'T BE VETTING IT DOWN FROM 40 DOWN TO 10 IN A PUBLIC MEETING.

I COULD SEE THE DRAWBACK IN EVER TRYING TO DO THAT WITH INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WILLING TO SERVE AND US HAVING AN OPEN DISCUSSION OF, HE'S NOT IN MY FINAL 10 OR SHE'S NOT THIS.

I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO GO 40-10.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN IF THERE IS SOMETHING YOU'D. [OVERLAPPING]

>> BECAUSE I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW IF WE'D ALL HAVE TIME TO INTERVIEW ALL 40.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'D GO FOR.

I JUST WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THOSE THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING PUTTING ON, IF HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH 40 PEOPLE IS THE ONLY ROUTE.

>> THAT'S BACK MORE LIKE THE SEARCH COMMITTEE THAT WE GOT AWAY FROM.

THAT WOULD BE PUTTING IT IN THE BOARD'S HANDS DOWN AT THE EDC LEVEL TO GO AND DO A SEARCH AND NARROW IT DOWN TO THE FINAL FEW, THEN THOSE WOULD COME BACK TO THIS COUNCIL FOR APPOINTMENT.

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I BELIEVE I GOT PRETTY STRONG PUSHBACK FROM YOU THAT YOU DON'T LIKE THE SEARCH COMMITTEE IDEA.

>> I DON'T, RESPECTFULLY.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE HAVING A COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS THAT ARE APPOINTED DOWN THE EDC.

I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW THIS IS BUILT TO OPERATE FOR APPOINTING MEMBERS TO THAT BOARD.

>> I AGREE WITH THE SEARCH COMMITTEE.

>> WELL, AND I WOULD SAY, IF WE HAVE 40, EACH ONE OF US CAN NARROW IT DOWN TO, LIKE WHICH YOU WERE SAYING, OUR OWN TOP, MAYBE 10, WHATEVER.

THEN WHEN WE COME TOGETHER, WE SEE WHERE EVERYBODY'S 10 ARE.

THERE MAY BE SOME OVERLAP, THEN THOSE ARE PRETTY EASY, AND THEN WE DISCUSS THE OTHERS JUST LIKE WE DISCUSS ANY OTHER APPOINTMENTS.

>> I'M WILLING TO TAKE THAT AS A LATER DATE.

DO WE WANT TO GET THE INTERVIEW APPLICANTS IN? THEN IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION OF MAKING NOMINATIONS TO SEE WHERE THEY LAND, THEN WE COULD DO THAT WITHOUT IT BEING AN EXCLUSION PROCESS.

IT WOULD BE STILL A NOMINATION PROCESS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT IN NOMINATING, NOT EXCLUDING.

>> GRAYSON, HOW DO WE SOLVE THIS PROBLEM? [LAUGHTER] HAVE YOU HAD ANY EXPERIENCE ON BOARD PLACEMENTS OR GOING THROUGH THIS, OR YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS?

>> I THINK I'VE TACKED A FEW OFFLINE.

BOARD APPOINTMENTS ARE A VERY CHALLENGING THING FOR COUNCILS, AND IT IS A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION YOU'RE MAKING BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTING AS YOUR DESIGNEES FOR THESE BOARDS HERE, SO I'VE ALWAYS ADVOCATED THAT COUNCILS BE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF WHO THEY'RE PUTTING ON A BOARD BEFORE THEY PUT THEM ON THAT BOARD.

ARE THEY GOING TO REPRESENT YOUR INTERESTS AS A SITTING COUNCIL OR NOT? THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN WHAT I'VE ADVOCATED IN MY CAREER.

>> I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION WE APPOINT ALEX FAIRLEY.

OUR EX COUNCILMAN BACK THERE?

>> HOWARD SMITH.

>> TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE A BOARD OF FIVE, WITH MR. DEPOCH BEING ON THAT BOARD AS WELL.

THEN WE CAN GO FROM THERE, THE EDC CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE, GET THE JOBS YOU-ALL NEED DONE.

THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THE 30 DAYS PUTTING OUT FEELERS TO SEE REPLIES.

THEN AT THAT TIME, WE CAN HAVE A MEETING WHETHER TO DECIDE HOW WE WANT TO ACTUALLY DO THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.

>> I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND YOUR MOTION, TO NOMINATE ALEX FAIRLEY, HOWARD SMITH, COUNCILMAN TIPPS AND COUNCILMAN CRAFT TO SERVE AT THE EDC AS TEMPORARY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> SO WE DIDN'T LAND ANYWHERE ON THE SEARCH PIECE, RIGHT?

>> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT.

THIS IS THE PIECE WE NEED RIGHT NOW.

>> WE GOT TO GET 30 DAYS.

>> I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT [OVERLAPPING].

>> BUT THAT'S A DIRECTIVE TO STAFF.

THIS IS A MOTION THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

>> CALL THE QUESTION.

>> CALL THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

ON ITEM SECOND WAS TIPS. LET ME SEE WHERE I AM.

MOTION PASSES ON 11 J WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

NOW, LET'S GIVE DIRECTION.

MR. ATKINS, ARE YOU CLEAR WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO, AND CAN YOU REACH OUT TO MR. HYDE? I'M SURE HE'S CATCHING UP AS WELL, SO HE'LL KNOW.

>> YOU BET. YES, SIR.

>> WITH THE INTENTION OF BRINGING BACK A FULL PACKAGE, YES, MR. CARTER.

>> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

I DO NOT HAVE FUNDS TO PAY MR. ATKINS FOR ALL OF THIS WORK BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A BUDGET APPROVED FOR THAT MUCH LEGAL SERVICES.

SO I WOULD NEED THAT TO BE APPROVED BEFORE I CAN UNLESS CITY'S WILLING TO PAY HIM UNTIL WE GET THIS I MEAN, I JUST DON'T I JUST DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PAY HIM.

BECAUSE THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED.

>> MR. PATH, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE THAT PROBLEM?

>> WELL, I DO BELIEVE APPROPRIATE THAT THESE BEDC FUNDS.

I THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE AUTHORIZATION TO DO THAT.

>> HOW DO WE DO A CAN WE DO THAT IN THE REARS, LIKE WHEN HE COMES BACK? AND WE GIVE DIRECTION HERE TODAY? OR DO YOU NEED THAT DONE? IS THERE A WAY TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A FUTURE SERVICE?

>> YOU'VE ALREADY GIVEN HIM DIRECTION ON BUDGET FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES.

IT WAS NOT SPECIFIC TO LEGAL, BUT LEGAL IS ALWAYS ACCESSED BY AEDC.

TO ME, I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY DONE IT.

>> MR. ATKINS, ARE YOU GOOD WITH WORKING AND KNOWING THAT

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THE FUTURE DRAW REQUEST WILL COME TO US FROM MR. CARTER SHOWING THE REFLECTED COST BY YOUR FIRM?

>> OF COURSE. I'M HAPPY TO.

>> ANYTHING YOU NEED FURTHER ON THE DIRECTION TO BRING BACK THE FULL PACKAGE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK MR. HYDE WILL PROBABLY RUN THAT SHOW.

HE'S GOT THE FORMS THAT WE'LL START FROM.

HE'S REFERENCED THAT HE HAS THOSE AND WAS GOING TO SEND THEM TO ME, SO WE WERE ALREADY GOING TO GET GOING ON THAT EFFORT.

>> MR. PATH, DO YOU NEED ANY FURTHER DIRECTION ON OUR END? REALLY WHAT WE WOULD HAVE IS WE NEED TO GIVE DIRECTION TO MS. CITY SECRETARY TO OPEN BACK UP THE APPLICANT POOL FOR ANOTHER 30 DAYS AND TO REACH OUT TO ALL APPLICANTS, GIVING THEM A SHORT UPDATE ON WHAT TOOK PLACE HERE TODAY, THE CHANGE IN THE TEMPORARY BOARD, AND IF THEY'RE WILLING TO SERVE STILL OR NOT.

THEN WE WOULD ASK YOU TO BRING THOSE BACK TO US AS SOON AS YOU HAVE THEM SO THAT WE'D HAVE AS MUCH TIME TO REACH OUT AND DO OUR OWN PERSONAL INTERVIEWS WITH THE INTENTION OF BRINGING SOMETHING BACK IN JANUARY.

ANYTHING FURTHER ON THIS ITEM? COUNCIL MCCRAFT, WE APPRECIATE YOU STAYING A LITTLE LATE.

DO YOU NEED TO STEP OUT OR YOU GET 630.

I GET ABOUT 20 MORE MINUTES.

WITH NOTHING FURTHER, THANK YOU, GUYS.

APPRECIATE YOU. ITEM 11 F, MS. COGGINS,

[Items 11.F. & 11.G.]

IF YOU WILL TAKE US TO THE POTTER COUNTY APPRAISAL BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

>>THANK YOU, MAYOR. ITEMS F AND G ARE YOUR BALLOTS FOR PRATT.

LAST MEETING, WE NOMINATED INDIVIDUALS TO THIS BOARD, AND TODAY WE WILL VOTE ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

YOUR FIRST BOARD IS THE POTTER COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD? YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN AND YOU HAVE A BALLOT IN FRONT OF YOU MARKED 11 F. FOR POTTER COUNTY, THERE ARE SIX INDIVIDUALS.

YOU CAN CAST VOTES TODAY FOR UP TO FIVE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, AND YOU CAN SPLIT THOSE VOTES.

YOU CAN VOTE ALL FOR ONE PERSON OR ANY NUMBER UP TO FIVE.

ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE THE FIVE INDIVIDUALS THAT COUNSEL NOMINATED AT YOUR LAST MEETING, AND THAT IS CHIP HUNT, ZACHARY PLUMMER, BLAIR SCHAFFER, CINDY SPANEL, AND MITZI WADE.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS BALLOT?

>> I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT HAS POTTER COUNTY ALREADY CASTED THEIR VOTES OR HOW DOES THIS PROCESS WORK AGAIN?

>> I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE OR NOT YET, COUNCIL MEMBER CRAFT.

I CAN TELL YOU LAST YEAR, THEY CASTED ALL OF THEIR VOTES FOR THEIR INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY HAD SELECTED.

AND THIS YEAR, THEIR INDIVIDUAL IS BLAIR SCHAFFER.

>> SO IT'S WHAT THEY NORMALLY DO. OKAY.

>> ANY DIRECTION FROM COUNSEL HERE?

>> I'D MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT CHIP HUNT.

>> IS THAT HOW WE CAME.

>> THESE ARE THE FIVE WE HAD NOMINATED PREVIOUSLY, RIGHT?

>> THEY ARE. THE ONE'S THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED.

YOU HAVE 775 VOTES TO CAST.

>> WE CAN SPLIT THOSE UP.

NO FORM, NO FORMULA NEEDED, OR WE COULD GIVE THEM ALL TO.

COUNCILMAN SHERLYN, I WOULD ASK, ARE YOU ASKING TO PUT ALL VOTES TO CHIP HUNT OR WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

>> I WOULDN'T MIND SPLITTING THEM UP.

>> IF THESE ARE THE FIVE WE NOMINATED, WHY WOULD WE NOT JUST DIVIDE ALL OF OUR VOTES TO THE FIVE THAT WE NOMINATED? WELL, IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT, YOU COULD AND THERE'S 155 VOTES PER INDIVIDUAL, THAT WOULD LEAVE ERIC DARNELL AS THE ONE PERSON THAT WOULD NOT RECEIVE VOTES FROM HIS CITY.

>> HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT AT POTTER COUNTY KNOWING THAT LIKE BLAIR SCHAFFER HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN THEIR VOTES?

>> I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO WHAT THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES ARE DOING.

I'M NOT SURE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT OUTCOME WOULD BE ULTIMATELY.

>> YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT BLAIR SCHAFFER DID RECEIVE THEIR VOTES?

>> CANNOT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY VOTED.

HISTORICALLY, THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.

>> WITH A GREAT LEVEL OF CERTAINTY THAT HE'S BEING NOMINATED THERE, COUNSEL, WOULD YOU ALL ENTERTAIN SPLITTING THE VOTES FOUR WAYS? WHAT WOULD THAT TOTAL BE, MA'AM?

>> 193.75.

>> A HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE VOTES WITH 1194 TO THREE OF YOUR CANDIDATES AND 193 TO ONE.

>> COUNSEL, LET'S MOVE THIS ONE FORWARD.

>> MOVED.

>> WHICH CANDIDATE WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE 193 TO? IF WE'RE DOING FOUR.

MITZI WADE. OKAY. SO THEN IF IF SO MOVED,

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WE WOULD GIVE 194 VOTES TO CHIP HUNT, ZACHARY PLUMMER, AND CINDY SPANEL, AND 193 VOTES TO MITZI WADE.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> MOTION PASSES WITH A 4-1VOTE.

>> NEXT IS YOUR SORRY, MAYOR.

>> GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY.

>> RANDALL COUNTY BALLOT.

WE'VE GOT SIX INDIVIDUALS ON THIS BALLOT AS WELL.

YOU'LL SEE YOU HAVE 795 VOTES TO CAST ON THIS ONE.

THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT COUNSEL NOMINATED AT YOUR LAST MEETING WERE KIM BENSON, BOB LINDSAY, DIANE THURMAN, AND JINGER WHITE.

IF YOU WANTED TO SELECT FIVE OFF OF THIS LIST, IT WOULD BE 159 VOTES PER PERSON.

IF YOU WANTED TO GO FOUR WAYS, IT WOULD BE 199 VOTES FOR THREE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND 198 FOR ONE.

OR WE CAN LOOK AT ANY OTHER COMBINATION.

>> I MOVE TO SPLIT THE VOTES BETWEEN THOSE FOUR INDIVIDUALS THAT WE NOMINATED.

>> SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO SPLIT THE VOTES EQUALLY TO KIM BENSON, BOB LINDSAY, DIANE THURMAN, AND JINGER WHITE.

>> BEFORE YOU VOTE, WHICH CANDIDATE GETS 198, ONE LESS VOTE?

>> DIANE THURMAN.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND, CORRECT?

>> WE DO. YES, SIR.

>> CLEAR ON YOUR END. GOT IT ALL.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THAT ONE PASSES WITH A 500.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. WE ARE THROUGH 11 F G HI J.

WE WILL TURN THE PAGE HERE ON ITEM 11 K. CONSIDER AN APPOINTMENT HERE.

[11.K. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - AMARILLO ANIMAL MANAGEMENT AND WELFARE ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

SO ARE YOU READY TO RUN K? YES. ACTUALLY DOUBLE K.

>> WE GOT IT.

>> MS. JOHNNY YOU'RE UP.

>> SO TODAY WE'RE APPOINTING MEMBERS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

WE HAVE ACCEPTED APPLICATIONS FROM MID SEPTEMBER TO MID OCTOBER.

TODAY, YOU WILL CONSIDER APPOINTMENTS FOR 28 BOARDS WITH A TOTAL OF 95 POSITIONS.

WE RECEIVED OVER 230 APPLICATIONS TO FILL THESE POSITIONS FROM 150 INDIVIDUALS.

MEMBERS ON THESE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO AT YOUR RATE SO THAT WE CAN DO THIS A PAINLESSLY AS POSSIBLE.

WE GAVE YOU THE APPLICATIONS BY BOARD APPROXIMATELY A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, AND WE DID PROVIDE MOTION LANGUAGE FOR EACH BOARD, WHICH YOU CAN FILL IN THE BLANKS OR WE CAN HELP SUMMARIZE AS NEEDED.

I HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS TO SERVE ON CITY BOARDS, WHICH ARE TO BE A RESIDENT OF POTTER OR RANDALL COUNTY EXCUSE ME, A REGISTERED VOTER PREFERABLY IN THE CITY OF AMARILLO.

THE THE CITY COUNCIL CAN APPOINT MEMBERS WHO ARE REGISTERED OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS IF THEY HAVE EXCEPTIONAL SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE TO SERVE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THEY CANNOT BE INDEBTED TO THE CITY OF AMARILLO, AND THEY MUST HAVE HAD ATTENDANCE WITH AT LEAST 75% IF THEY ARE BEING REAPPOINTED.

WE'RE GOING TO START TODAY WITH ANIMAL MANAGEMENT AND WELFARE ADVISORY BOARD.

THIS BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

ONE OF THESE MEMBERS MUST BE A FACULTY MEMBER FROM TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF VETERINARY MEDICINE.

BOARD LIAISON IS VICTORIA MEDLEY AND THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN, INCLUDING ONE VACANCY.

THERE ARE FOUR POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

PLEASE NOTE AGAIN THAT ONE OF THE MUST BE A FACULTY MEMBER OF TEXAS TECH SCHOOL OF VETERINARY MEDICINE.

>> MS. JOHNNY, WE HAVE PRINTOUTS HERE AND THEY ARE IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER, THESE ARE NOT.

DO YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO POINTING US INTO OUR PRINTOUT PACKETS AS TO PAGE NUMBERS? IF NOT, IT'S OKAY WE'LL WORK OFF.

>> SURE, DEPENDS ON WHAT THE QUESTION IS.

>> TELL ME WHERE TO GO FOR ANIMAL MANAGEMENT 132?

>> OF COURSE.

>> 132?

>> YEAH. WELL, 130 IS THE FIRST PAGE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> NOMINEES ARE ON 132.

>> THANK YOU. COUNSEL,

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QUESTIONS ON ANIMAL MANAGEMENT? IF NO QUESTIONS, WE WOULD START ENTERTAINING APPOINTMENTS.

>> WELL, YOU SAID BETHANY NEEDS TO STAY ON BECAUSE WE NEED A MEMBER OF TEXAS TECH. RIGHT?

>> IS THE ONLY ONE NOT WILLING TO SERVE CHARLIE SANCHEZ.

ARE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE NEED ONE APPOINTMENT, BUT YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO APPOINT OTHERS?

>> I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE SANDRA MCCART.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> I GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND ON SANDRA MCCART.

ANYBODY WANT TO GIVE ANY DISCUSSION OF THAT ONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 4-0 VOTE ON THAT ONE.

>> NOW, DOES IT GO THAT THE OTHERS STAY OR DO WE HAVE TO?

>> YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT THEM OR APPOINT OTHER INDIVIDUALS?

>> GOT YOU.

>> YOU CAN DO IT IN ONE MOTION OR YOU CAN DO IT IN THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS UP TO YOU.

>> COUNSEL, HAVE ANYONE ELSE THEY'D LIKE TO NOMINATE.

>> WELL, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE THREE OTHER SEATS? WELL, WE COULD RE NOMINATE THE THREE OTHER SEATS?

>> I MOVED TO RENOMINATE BETHANY, DAVID AND MYSELF FOR ANOTHER TERM.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND TO RENOMINATE BETHANY AND COUNCILMAN SIMPSON, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> THERE WAS A SECOND WITH COUNCILMAN SHERLYN.

>> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> DO YOU NEED A NOMINATION ON DAVID MARTINEZ, CORRECT? OR YOU NEED A REPLACEMENT?

>> YOU REPLACED HIM WITH SANDRA MCCART.

>> I THOUGHT WE REPLACED SANDRA MCCART REPLACED CHARLIE SANCHEZ?.

>> CHARLIE SANCHEZ WAS REPLACED BY SANDRA MCCART.. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR BETHANY AND LESS, BUT THEN WE DID NOT MOTION FOR DAVID MARTINEZ.

HE EITHER NEEDS TO BE REAPPOINTED OR REPLACED.

COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON DID MOTION FOR DAVID AS WELL.

>> I THOUGHT I DID.

>> YOU DID.

>> I DIDN'T HEAR IT. I APOLOGIZE.

SO YOU HAVE ALL THREE? DO YOU HAVE THAT AS A CLARIFICATION IN YOUR MOTION? THEN WE ARE DONE WITH ITEM 11K.

MOVING ON TO ITEM 11L,

[11.L. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD MEMBERS]

WOULD ASK WHERE THE PARKS AND REC IS IN THE PRINTOUT.

>> IT IS ON PAGE 393.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. WHAT PAGE?

>> THREE HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE.

>> ONCE WE GET THAT UP ON THE SCREEN, WRONG DIRECTION.

>> WHICH ONES.

>> I APOLOGIZE. WE GOT THERE.

PARKS AND REC BOARD IS COMPOSED OF 11 MEMBERS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

THEY SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD DOES MEET MONTHLY.

THE BOARD LIAISON IS MICHAEL KASHUBA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

WE DID PROVIDE 15 APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD.

BOTH MR. MASSEY AND MR. HARTMAN ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING.

>> I MOVED TO REAPPOINT JOSH CRAFT ROBERT ALTMAN AND SHELBY MASSEY TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER CRAFT DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH ME, SO COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON, I WOULD ASK IF HE DOES HAVE TO WORK ON BEHALF OF THE ADC AND THAT TAKES SOME TIME.

I THINK HE'S SPREAD PRETTY THIN.

DO YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER NOMINATE?

>> SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT THE MEETING.

>> I KNOW. [LAUGHTER].

>> THAT'S HOW YOU GET RE NOMINATED.

>> YOU GET VOLUNTEERED. NO PROBLEM WITH SHELBY MASSEY BEING REAPPOINTED.

I THINK IF WE COULD GET TWO MORE, COUNCIL MEMBER CRAFT MAY APPRECIATE THAT WITH HIS WORKLOAD.

>> WELL, SO I WOULD STILL NOMINATE ROBERT ALTMAN AND SHELBY MASSEY, AND THEN I WOULD ADD ALAN COX AS A THIRD.

>> AN AMENDMENT TO THAT MOTION.

DO YOU NEED ANY CLARIFICATION ON THAT, JOHNNY?

>> NO, I HAVE IT, SIR.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO YOU MIND REPEATING THAT BACK TO US SO WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ROBERT ALTMAN, SHELBY MASSEY, AND ALAN COX.

>> ALAN COX. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES ON ITEM 11 L. ITEM 11 M,

[11.M. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - BEAUTIFICATION AND PUBLIC ARTS ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

BEAUTIFICATION IN PUBLIC ARTS.

>> STARTS ON 236.

[03:25:03]

>> TWO THIRTY FOUR.

>> WE ARE NEEDING THREE POSITIONS?

>> YES, SIR. FOUR POSITIONS.

IT'S COMPOSED OF NINE MEMBERS AND ONE NON VOTING MEMBER.

APPOINTED BY COUNSEL, THEY SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD ALSO MEETS MONTHLY.

>> THE BOARD LIAISON AND EX-OFFICIO IS MICHAEL KASHUBA, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN, INCLUDING TWO VACANCIES.

YOU DO HAVE FOUR POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

YOU HAVE 19 APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD, AND MISS YOUNG IS STILL WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I WOULD MOVE TO REAPPOINT STEPHANIE YOUNG AND NOMINATE TOMMY KNOX TO A VACANCY POSITION.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> LEAVES US TWO MORE GENTLEMEN, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY NOMINATION.

>> I NOMINATE FRANCIS FROST.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON FRANCIS FROST.

>> DID YOU WANT MS. FROST ON A VACANCY FOR A TERM ENDING IN 2026 OR A NEW TERM BEGINNING ON JANUARY 1ST OF 2025?

>> LET'S DO THE VACANCY.

>> WE HAVE A NEW TERM.

DOES ANYONE HAVE INDIVIDUAL THEY'D LIKE TO NOMINATE?

>> I'LL NOMINATE SHANNON PEOPLES FOR, I GUESS, THE ONE LEFT IS LAUREN HALL, CORRECT?

>> MOTION AND A SECOND FOR SHANNON PEOPLES.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A FOUR OH VOTE ON ITEM 11M.

ON ITEM 11N,

[11.N. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD, WHERE DO WE NEED TO GO, JOHNNY?

>> TO 345. THE LIBRARY ADVISORY BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

THE MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEARS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS BIMONTHLY.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS AMANDA BARRERA, THE DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.

WE HAVE THE CURRENT MEMBERS LISTED ON THE SCREEN, AND WE HAVE THREE POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

ALL MEMBERS WHOSE TERMS ARE EXPIRING ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL, BUT YOU DID RECEIVE 22 APPLICATIONS.

>> OPEN FOR NOMINATIONS, GENTLEMEN.

>> WELL, I MOVE WE REAPPOINT CHRISSY GAGNON JOHN ESLER AND LILY AND WOTRY.

>> I HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 40 VOTE.

ITEM 11O ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES.

[11.O. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES MEMBERS]

THAT'S NUMBER 1, ISN'T IT?

>> YES, SIR. IT'S YOUR FIRST ONE, AND IT IS ON PAGE 18.

THIS BOARD HAS FIVE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

THEY SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS TWO TO FOUR TIMES PER YEAR.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS CHRIS QUIGLEY, THE DIRECTOR OF TRANSIT.

THE CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON YOUR SCREEN AND THERE IS ONE POSITION TO CONSIDER TODAY.

MS. GINGRICH IS WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL, BUT YOU HAVE RECEIVED EIGHT APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD.

>> I MOVED TO NOMINATE DARLENE MARTIN IN PLACE OF MS. GINGRICH.

>> I SECOND.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND ON DARLENE MARTIN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 40 VOTE ON ITEM 11O.

ITEM 11P, PUBLIC HEALTH BOARD MEMBERS?

[11.P. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - AMARILLO AREA PUBLIC HEALTH BOARD MEMBERS]

>> YES, SIR. THEY START ON PAGE 175.

THIS BOARD IS COMPOSED OF EIGHT MEMBERS.

CITY COUNCIL POINTS TWO POSITIONS WITH THE REMAINING POSITIONS FILLED BY VARIOUS OTHER ENTITIES.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS CASEY STOTON, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE AMARILLO PUBLIC HEALTH BOARD ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND ONE CITY OF AMARILLO POSITION IS UP FOR APPOINTMENT TODAY.

YOU RECEIVED SIX APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD AND MR. HAWKINS IS WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I MOVE TO REAPPOINT KEVIN HAWKINS.

>> MOTION IN A SECOND ON KEVIN HAWKINS REAPPOINTMENT.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

[03:30:03]

>> ANY OPPOSED? ITEM 11 P PASSES WITH A 40 VOTE ONTO ITEM 11Q,

[11.Q. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - AMARILLO CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU BOARD MEMBERS]

CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU.

>> STARTS ON PAGE 325.

THE CVB BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS COMPOSED OF NINE VOTING MEMBERS AND THREE NON VOTING EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPOINTS FOUR OF THE NINE, THREE MEMBERS AT LARGE AND ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.

THEY SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD DOES MEET MONTHLY.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS CASHIN SMITH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

ONE MUST BE A COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE RECEIVED EIGHT APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD, AND MS. KNAPP EGGERS IS WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I MOVE TO APPOINT SERENE PATEL TO THE AT LARGE POSITION AND REAPPOINT TOM SHERLYN TO TO THE COUNCIL.

>> SERENE PATEL DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THAT?

>> OH, DOES NOT QUALIFY.

I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION.

>> I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT ANGELA EGGERS.

>> TO REAPPOINT.

>> SHE'S PAST PRESIDENT OR PRESIDENT.

>> DO YOU WANT TO MOVE TO REAPPOINT YOURSELF, PROBABLY NOT.

>> PLEASE.

>> ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

WE ARE MOVING ON TO 11R, HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

ITEM 11Q.

[11.R. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - AMARILLO HOSPITAL DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS MEMBERS]

>> HOSPITAL DISTRICT STARTS ON PAGE 95.

THERE ARE SEVEN MEMBERS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS TO SERVE TWO TERMS. SORRY. TO YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS QUARTERLY.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS LAURA STREET'S ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

YOU HAVE FOUR APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD, AND PLEASE NOTE THAT MS. MICHELLE BONNER AND MR. ALEXANDER ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MICHAEL ALEXANDER AND MICHELLE BONNER BACK TO THE THE BOARD.

>> SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION ON REAPPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL ALEXANDER MICHELLE BONNER? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> ANY OPPOSED? I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT DR. ROF HAVERSONG TO THE POSITION FOR LAURA STREET.

>> I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON DR. HAVERSONG.

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES, MISS CITY SECRETARY, I'LL GET YOU THAT CONTACT SINCE HE WAS NOT AN APPLICANT.

>> WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 11S,

[11.S. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - AMARILLO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION BOARD MEMBERS]

AMER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION, BOARD MEMBERS.

>> STARTS ON PAGE 107.

THIS BOARD IS COMPOSED OF SEVEN MEMBERS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS MONTHLY.

THE LIAISON TO AMER LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION IS ANDREW FREEMAN, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE LGC ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THERE ARE FIVE POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

YOU HAVE NINE APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD.

PLEASE NOTE THAT MR. SMITH DOES NOT WISH TO CONTINUE SERVING.

HOWEVER, THE REMAINING ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING.

>> I MOVE TO REAPPOINT ALFONSO ZAMBRANO, COLE STANLEY, GARY JENNINGS, AND JENNIFER GALLARDO.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

I MOVE TO A POINT J BRENT IN PLACE OF MR. SMITH, WHO'S NOT ABLE TO SERVE ANY LONGER.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND FOR J BRENT.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 40 VOTE.

ONTO 11T, AMARILLO-POTTER EVENTS VENUE DISTRICT BOARD.

[11.T. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - AMARILLO-POTTER EVENTS VENUE DISTRICT BOARD MEMBERS]

>> VENUE DISTRICT STARTS ON PAGE 161 OF YOUR PACKET.

THE AMARILLO-POTTER EVENTS VENUE DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS COMPOSED OF SEVEN MEMBERS, FOUR OF WHICH ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL, AND THREE ARE APPOINTED BY POTTER COUNTY.

MEMBERS SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS THREE TO SIX TIMES PER YEAR.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS LAURA STREET'S ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.

CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE VENUE DISTRICT ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

ONE POSITION IS UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

[03:35:02]

YOU DID RECEIVE SIX APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD, AND PLEASE NOTE MR. MAYFIELD IS WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I MOVE TO REAPPOINT TODD MAYFIELD.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND.

>> ANY OPPOSE? MOTION PASSES ON TO 11U.

[11.U. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - BOARD OF REVIEW FOR LANDMARKS, HISTORIC DISTRICTS, AND DOWNTOWN DESIGN MEMBERS]

LANDMARKS HISTORIC DISTRICTS, DOWNTOWN.

>> YES, SIR. THAT STARTS ON PAGE 191.

THE BOARD OF REVIEW FOR LANDMARK HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND DOWNTOWN DESIGN IS COMPOSED OF SEVEN MEMBERS APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS ONE TO TWO TIMES PER YEAR.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS EMILY KOHLER, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

PLEASE NOTE THAT MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD MUST BE A MEMBER OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES TO SERVE.

A REGISTERED ARCHITECT WITH AT LEAST 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, BUILDING CONTRACTOR WITH AT LEAST 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN HOUSING CONSTRUCTION, LAND USE OR PLANNING PROFESSIONAL, DOWNTOWN BUSINESS OWNER OR MANAGER, DOWNTOWN RESIDENT, LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE BANKING OR SAVINGS AND LOAN INDUSTRY, OWNER OR RESIDENT OF A HISTORIC PROPERTY, HISTORY TEACHER, OR PROFESSOR, OR HISTORIAN OR PRESERVATION CONSULTANT.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ARE LISTED ON SCREEN.

SEVEN POSITIONS ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY, AND ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY SERVING ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE.

>> CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THIS ONE?

>> HOW DID THEY ALL GET ON THE SAME CYCLE?

>> I CANNOT SPEAK TO THAT.

WE CAN WORK TO STAGGER THAT TODAY IF YOU WANT TO OR WE CAN CONTINUE.

>> CAN WE SPLIT THAT UP?

>> WE CAN AT YOUR MOTION.

>> I THINK WE HAD A BUNCH OF VACANCIES.

>> THEY JUST GOT FILLED ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

>> IF WE HAD VACANCIES LIKE TWO OR THREE, IF I CAN REMEMBER, THEN WE HAD A COUPLE THAT WERE TURNED OUT.

>> YOU'RE RIGHT.

>> YOU CAN NOMINATE FOUR OF THEM FOR WHAT TWO YEAR TERM. WHAT IS THE.

>> THREE YEAR TERM?

>> THE THREE YEAR? HOW WOULD YOU HOW WOULD YOU STAGGER THIS THEN, MA'AM? COULD YOU GET US OUT OF THAT?

>> I WOULD SUGGEST DOING SEVEN.

I WOULD SUGGEST DOING ONE FOR A ONE YEAR TERM TO LINE UP WITH MR. COX, AND THEN THREE FOR TWO YEARS AND THREE FOR THREE YEARS.

>> WE WANT TO STAGGER THIS. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE HEARING?

>> THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.

>> I WOULD THINK SO.

>> I'D MAKE A MOTION TO RENOMINATE CINDY BOLER FOR A ONE YEAR TERM TO COINCIDE WITH ALAN COX.

>> KEEP GOING.

>> MAKE A MOTION TO OR ADD TO THIS MOTION RENOMINATE DEVIN SAVAGE, GARY JENNINGS, AND GREG BLISS, FOR A TWO YEAR TERM.

MIKE RITTER, STEPHANIE DAGGETT, AND WESLEY KNAPP, FOR THREE YEAR TERM.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 11U.

>> CAN WE GET A QUICK CLARIFICATION? DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE MS. DAGGETT IN THE ALTERNATE POSITION?

>> OH, IS SHE AN ALTERNATIVE?

>> SHE IS.

>> EVERYTHING YOU NEED? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> PLEASE CONVEY THE REASONING WHY WE DID THAT OR WE'LL LEFT.

ITEM 11V.

>> ABSOLUTELY STAGGERED AT TIMES.

>> I WOULD BE MUCH HEALTHIER TO NOT HAVE EVERYBODY ROLLING OFF AT ONE TIME.

>> ABSOLUTELY. ACTUALLY, OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSION ORDINANCE CALLS FOR THEM TO BE STAGGERED, SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY LINING US BACK UP WITH ORDINANCE.

>> MS. JOHNNY, IF YOU'LL TELL US WHERE TO GO IN

[11.V. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEMBERS]

OUR BOOKLET FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. ITEM 11V.

>> FOR CDAC, WE'RE NOT FAR OFF.

IT IS GOING TO START ON 303.

THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE IS COMPOSED OF SEVEN MEMBERS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS FOUR TO SIX TIMES PER YEAR.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS JASON RILSBERG, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

PLEASE NOTE THAT CDAC MEMBERSHIP SHOULD BE BROADLY REPRESENTATIVE WITH PARTICIPATION ENCOURAGED BY INDIVIDUALS FROM LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS AND THOSE WHO ARE PART OF THE FOLLOWING POPULATIONS.

ELDERLY, WOMEN, MINORITIES, DISABLED, LIMITED ENGLISH PROFICIENCY, AND THOSE WHO HAVE OR HAVE EXPERIENCED HOMELESSNESS.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE CDAC ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND TWO POSITIONS ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

I WANT TO NOTE THAT WE DID THE SAME THING LAST YEAR WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE JUST DID WITH THE BOARD OF REVIEW FOR LANDMARKS, SO THESE ARE FRESHLY STAGGERED TERMS.

>> VERY GOOD. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO NOMINATE LEE STUDER TO THE FIRST OPEN POSITION FOR AMANDA HOLCOMBE.

>> ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

[03:40:01]

>> OH, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR MAYBE NEXT YEAR, IF WE COULD HAVE WHEN WE GET THIS LIST ATTENDANCE.

BECAUSE IF WE COULD GET THAT BECAUSE WE MAY BE APPOINTING SOMEBODY THAT HADN'T BEEN SHOWING UP ANYWAY.

>> I CAN SURE DO THAT.

>> APPRECIATE THAT, COUNCILMAN.

WE NEED ONE MORE NOMINATION FOR MARGARET.

>> CHIP HUNT.

>> I HAVE A MOTION FOR CHIP HUNT IN PLACE OF MARGARET.

I'LL SECOND IT. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

ONTO ITEM 11W, PLANNING AND ZONING.

[11.W. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEMBERS]

>>I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I WENT RIGHT TO IT ON MY SCREEN SO I CAN TELL YOU QUICKLY.

IT'S NUMBER 427, PAGE 427.

PLANNING AND ZONING IS COMPOSED OF SEVEN MEMBERS APPOINTED BY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS, AND THIS BOARD MEETS SEMI MONTHLY.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS EMILY KOHLER, DIRECTOR OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN, INCLUDING ONE VACANCY.

THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

ALL MEMBERS WITH TERMS EXPIRING ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I HAVE TO REAPPOINT CINDY B JASON ALT AND LANDON MORLAN.

>> WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE?

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES ON TO 11X.

[11.X. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - MEMBERS TO CENTER CITY TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE #1 BOARD OF DIRECTORS]

>> IS TIERS 1, WHICH STARTS ON PAGE 459.

THE CENTER CITY TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT IN ZONE NUMBER 1, BOARD IS COMPOSED OF 10 MEMBERS, THREE OF WHICH ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND SEVEN ARE APPOINTED BY VARIOUS OTHER ENTITIES.

MEMBERS SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS AND THIS BOARD MEETS MONTHLY.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS DREW BRASFIELD, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE TIERS 1 ARE LISTED ON SCREEN AND THERE IS ONE POSITION TO CONSIDER TODAY.

YOU DID RECEIVE THREE APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD, AND MS. RAINEY, WHOSE TERM IS EXPIRING, IS WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT AMY RAINEY.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 11X.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES.

ITEM 11Y.

[11.Y. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - MEMBERS TO EAST GATEWAY TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE #2 BOARD OF DIRECTORS]

>> TIERS 2 BEGINS ON PAGE 469.

THE EAST GATEWAY TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER 2.

BOARD IS COMPOSED OF 10 MEMBERS, THREE OF WHICH ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND SEVEN ARE APPOINTED BY VARIOUS OTHER ENTITIES.

MEMBERS SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS THAT DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS AND THEY MEET MONTHLY.

DREW BRASFIELD IS ALSO THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN, INCLUDING TWO VACANCIES.

THERE ARE THREE POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY, AND ONLY ONE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED FOR THIS BOARD, FROM MR. SHAY, WHO IS WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT TRACY SHAY.

>> GOT A SECOND FROM PLACE 4.

MOTION IN A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE HAVE ONE VACANCY.

THIS IS OUR EAST-GATEWAY TIERS, NUMBER 2.

>> CAN I PROPOSE THAT, UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE HAS GOT A NAME? MAYBE WE RE-CONTACT PEOPLE WHO VOLUNTEERED FOR OTHER BOARDS OR MAYBE OPEN THIS UP FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO APPLY.

>> BRING IT BACK?

>> YES. IF ANYBODY ELSE HAD APPLIED FOR ANOTHER BOARD, MAYBE THAT'S NOT BEEN APPOINTED, IF THEY WANT TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THIS ONE OR TO LET THE COMMUNITY KNOW THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THIS ONE.

BECAUSE THERE MAY BE ANOTHER ONE, I THINK, THAT WE'VE COME UP SHORT ON. JUST A THOUGHT.

>> SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, LET'S DO.

BECAUSE WE MAY GET ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE LIST AND WE MAY TAKE ACTION, SO I WANT TO TABLE 11Y.

IF I COULD ASK, AND THEN WE COME BACK TO THAT AT THE END BECAUSE YOU MAY GET TO THE VERY END AND HAVE A NAME FROM ONE OF THE OTHER BOARDS.

SO MOVE TO TABLE 11Y?

>> MOTION TO THE SECOND ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> MOTION'S TABLE TEMPORARILY HERE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 11Z.

[11.Z. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - MEMBERS TO SOUTH GATEWAY TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE #3 BOARD OF DIRECTORS]

>> IT IS TIRZ 3, WHICH BEGINS ON PAGE 475.

SOUTH GATEWAY TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE NUMBER

[03:45:03]

3 IS A BOARD COMPOSED OF 10 MEMBERS, THREE OF WHICH ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL AND SEVEN ARE APPOINTED BY VARIOUS OTHER ENTITIES.

MEMBERS SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS AND THE BOARD MEETS MONTHLY.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS ALSO DREW BRASFIELD, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF TIRZ 3 ARE LISTED ON YOUR SCREEN AND THERE IS ONE POSITION TO CONSIDER TODAY.

WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD.

>> MOVE TO APPOINT TRENT MORGAN TO BLAINE WEST LAKE.

>> A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE? ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES ON ITEM 11Z.

>> NEXT BOARD UP FOR CONSIDERATION IS THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT,

[11.AA. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT]

IT BEGINS ON PAGE 479 IN YOUR PACKET.

THE ZBA IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS AND UP TO FOUR ALTERNATES, WHICH ARE APPOINTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS, THIS BOARD MEETS 1-2 TIMES PER MONTH.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS JUSTIN OPPLE, THE DEVELOPMENT CUSTOMER SERVICE COORDINATOR.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE ZBA ARE LISTED ON YOUR SCREEN.

THERE ARE UP TO FOUR POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY, WHICH INCLUDE UP TO ONE ALTERNATE MEMBER.

YOU HAVE SIX APPLICATIONS FOR THIS BOARD, ADDITIONALLY, ALL FIVE MEMBERS WITH TERMS EXPIRING ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> QUICK QUESTION BEFORE WE GET A MOTION GOING ON 11AA.

IS THERE A REASON WE HAVE SO MANY ALTERNATES?

>> THAT'S HOW IT'S WRITTEN IN THE ORDINANCE?

>> GOOD ENOUGH.

>> THAT'S ALL I GOT.

>> WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.

>> WELL, I MOVE TO REAPPOINT CHRIS RHYNEHART, CRAIG DAVIS, JC MATHIS, PAUL FRENCH, AND TRENT MORGAN AS THE ALTERNATE.

GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? ITEM 11AA PASSES.

ITEM 11BB, ADVISORY AND APPEALS.

[11.BB. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - CONSTRUCTION ADVISORY AND APPEALS COMMISSION MEMBERS]

>> THE CONSTRUCTION ADVISORY AND APPEALS COMMISSION BEGINS ON PAGE 275.

THIS BOARD IS COMPOSED OF NINE MEMBERS APPOINTED BY COUNSEL AND HAS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH POSITION.

IT IS COMPRISED OF ONE REGISTERED ARCHITECT, ONE REGISTERED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER WITH EXPERIENCE IN STRUCTURAL DESIGN, ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING, OR THE DESIGN OF PLUMBING OR HVAC SYSTEMS AND BUILDINGS.

ONE BUILDING CONTRACTOR WITH EXPERIENCE IN COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, ONE BUILDING CONTRACTOR WITH EXPERIENCE IN HOUSING CONSTRUCTION, ONE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR WHO IS LICENSED BY THE CITY AS A MASTER ELECTRICIAN, WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTING IN BUILDING CONSTRUCTION.

ONE HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING CONTRACTOR WHO IS LICENSED BY THE STATE AS AN AIR CONDITIONING CONTRACTOR, ONE PLUMBING CONTRACTOR WHO IS LICENSED BY THE STATE AS A MASTER PLUMBER AND WHO HAS EXPERIENCE IN PLUMBING CONTRACTING AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, ONE INSURANCE FIRE AND CASUALTY RECORDING AGENT, AND ONE CITIZEN WHO HAS NO DIRECT FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT SALES OR MANAGEMENT OR UTILITY COMPANY, EXCEPT AS HE OR SHE MAY HAVE AS AN OWNER OR OCCUPANT OF A DWELLING.

THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS, AND THEY MEET ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS JOHNNY SCHOLL, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE CAAC ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THERE ARE FIVE POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

YOU HAVE 10 APPLICANTS FOR THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD MEMBERS WHOSE TERMS ARE EXPIRING ARE ALL WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING ANOTHER TERM AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION.

>> COUNSEL.

>> I MOVE TO REAPPOINT GARY WARD, JIM BANES, RUSS GLAZE, RYAN HUSEMAN, AND TOM ROLLER.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> 11BB PASSES WITH A 4-0 VOTE.

[11.CC. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - CONDEMNATION APPEALS COMMISSION MEMBERS]

ONTO 11CC, CONDEMNATION APPEALS.

>> CONDEMNATION APPEALS BEGINS ON PAGE 299 OF YOUR PACKET.

THIS BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS AND ONE ALTERNATE MEMBER APPOINTED BY COUNSEL.

MEMBERS SERVE TWO YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS AND THEY MEET 1-2 TIMES PER MONTH.

A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS BOARD IS THAT THEY ALSO BE A MEMBER OF THE CAAC, SO THIS IS A SUBCOMMITTEE.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND, I JUST SAID THAT.

COUNCIL MAY SELECT FROM CURRENT CONDEMNATION APPEALS COMMISSION MEMBERS TO SERVE ON THE CONDEMNATION AND APPEALS COMMISSION, AND MR. CONSTANCIO IS WILLING TO CONTINUE SERVING ON THIS BOARD AT THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL.

>> MOVE TO REAPPOINT RICHARD CONSTANCIO.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? 11CC PASSES.

[03:50:02]

ONTO 11DD, COLONIES PID.

[11.DD. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - COLONIES PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

>> COLONY STARTS ON PAGE 489 OF YOUR PACKET.

THE COLONIES PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS, TWO RECOMMENDED BY THE DEVELOPER, ONE RECOMMENDED BY THE TRUST, AND TWO WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS.

THIS BOARD MEETS 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD IS CARRIE ROBERTS, THE PID'S COORDINATOR.

ALL CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE COLONIES PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND ALL FIVE POSITIONS ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

THE DEVELOPER RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR CLARK DAMON AND JASON BURR TO BE REAPPOINTED.

THE HOMEOWNER RECOMMENDATIONS ARE FOR TREY WILKINSON AND JOSH LANGHAM TO BE REAPPOINTED, AND LUKE AUSTIN HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE DEVELOPER TO BE REAPPOINTED FOR THIS BOARD.

>> I MOVE TO REAPPOINT TREY WILKINSON, CLARK DAMON, JASON BURR, JOSH LANGHAM, AND LUKE AUSTIN.

MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES. ITEM 11EE, HERITAGE HILLS PID.

[11.EE. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - HERITAGE HILLS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

>> STARTS ON PAGE 502.

HERITAGE HILLS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS, TWO RECOMMENDED BY THE DEVELOPER, ONE BY THE OWNER, AND TWO WHO ARE PROPERTY OWNERS.

THESE MEMBERS ALSO SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS AND THIS BOARD MEETS 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

CARRIE ROBERTS IS THE BOARD LIAISON.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE HERITAGE HILLS ADVISORY BOARD ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND ALL FIVE SEATS ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION.

THE OWNER RECOMMENDS SCOTT WALTON, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION RECOMMENDS AARON JOHNSON AND TOLK PERSONS, AND THE DEVELOPER RECOMMENDS PERRY WILLIAMS AND SETH WILLIAMS BE REAPPOINTED TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD.

>> MOVE TO REAPPOINT AARON JOHNSON, KEVIN TOLK PERSONS, PERRY WILLIAMS, SCOTT WALTON, AND SETH WILLIAMS.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> 11EE PASSES. 11FF, PINNACLE.

[11.FF. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - PINNACLE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

>> PINNACLE STARTS ON PAGE 517.

THIS BOARD IS COMPOSED OF THREE MEMBERS, TWO RECOMMENDED BY THE DEVELOPER, AND ONE RECOMMENDED BY THE OWNER.

THEY SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS WITHOUT TERM LIMITS AND MEETS 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

CARRIE ROBERTS IS THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD AND THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

ALL THREE POSITIONS ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY AND ALL THREE HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THEIR APPROPRIATE RECOMMENDERS TO BE REAPPOINTED.

>> DO THEY NOT HAVE ANY CITIZENS ON THIS? READ MORE.

>> NOT AT THIS POINT IN THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

>> THEY'RE NOT THERE YET.

>> OKAY. PRETTY TYPICAL, RIGHT? CORRECT.

>> YEAH.

>> ONCE THEY HAVE MORE HOMES, THEY'LL ADD THE HOMEOWNERS TO THE BOARD.

>> I'LL MOVE TO APPOINT CLEVELAND TURNER, MARC FRANKLIN, AND WENDELL DAVIES.

>> SORRY. MOTION FROM PLACE 4, SECOND FROM PLACE 2.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> POINT WEST BEGINS ON PAGE 529 OF YOUR PACKET.

FOR 11GG POINT WEST.

[11.GG. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - POINT WEST PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

THIS BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS, ONE RECOMMENDED BY THE DEVELOPER, TWO RECOMMENDED BY THE OWNER, AND TWO THAT ARE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PID.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS, AND THIS BOARD MEETS 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

CARRIE ROBERTS IS THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD AS THE PID'S COORDINATOR.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE POINT WEST PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THERE ARE FOUR POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

ALKESH PATEL HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE LAW OWNERS, KEVIN CARTER AND TIM ENGLES, BY THE DEVELOPER, AND NATHAN MORROW BY THE OWNER TO SERVE ADDITIONAL TERMS ON THE ADVISORY BOARD.

>> I MAKE A MOTION TO REAPPOINT ALKESH PATEL, KEVIN CARTER, NATHAN MORROW, AND TIM ENGLES.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

QUAIL CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD IS COMPOSED OF THREE MEMBERS, TWO WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS, AND ONE WHO IS RECOMMENDED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

>> ANY OPPOSED?

>> 4-0 VOTE ON 11GG.

[11.HH. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - QUAIL CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

11HH, QUAIL CREEK PID.

>> STARTS ON PAGE 540.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS, THIS BOARD MEETS 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

CARRIE ROBERTS IS THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE QUAIL CREEK PID ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS TO CONSIDER TODAY.

STEPHEN AKEROYD AND TRENA SANTEE HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE HOMEOWNERS TO SERVE ON THE QUAIL CREEK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD.

>> MOVE TO REAPPOINT STEPHEN AKEROYD AND TRENA SANTEE.

>> I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM PLACE 3. ALL IN FAVOR.

>> ANY OPPOSED? JUST THREE OR FOUR MORE HERE.

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ONTO ITEM 11LL, TOWN SQUARE.

[11.II. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - TOWN SQUARE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

>> 11II

>> SORRY,11II.

>> STARTS ON PAGE 547.

THERE'S NO LOWER CASE LS IN THIS PACK.

>> NOT TODAY.

>> I GET THAT. THE TOWN SQUARE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS, ONE RECOMMENDED BY THE DEVELOPER AND TWO BY THE OWNER, AND TWO THAT ARE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE PID.

THE MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS AND MEETS 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

CARRIE ROBERTS IS THE LIAISON TO THE TOWN SQUARE PID.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND THERE ARE FIVE POSITIONS UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

NOAH WILLIAMS HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE OWNERS, SETH WILLIAMS AND CHRIS RHYNEHART BY THE DEVELOPERS, AND KEVIN GOLDEN AND TIFFANY HOOKER BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SERVE ADDITIONAL TERMS ON THE TOWN SQUARE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

>> I MOVE TO REAPPOINT CHRIS RHYNEHART, KEVIN GOLDEN, NOAH WILLIAMS, SETH WILLIAMS, AND TIFFANY HOOKER.

MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 11II.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> TUTBURY, BEGINS ON PAGE 560 IN YOUR PACKET.

[11.JJ. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - TUTBURY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

11.JJ TUTBURY.

THERE ARE THREE MEMBERS ON THIS BOARD WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS AND THEY SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS.

THEY DO MEET 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

CARRIE ROBERTS IS THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD, AND THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN.

HOMEOWNERS THERESA CRUZ, RICHARD DRAKE, AND CATHY BAILEY HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED TO CONTINUE SERVING ON THE TUTBURY.

>> MOVE TO REAPPOINT CATHY BAILEY, RICHARD DRAKE, AND THERESA CRUZ.

>> GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

>> VINEYARDS STARTS ON PAGE 569 OF YOUR PACKET, AND THE VINEYARDS PID ADVISORY BOARD IS COMPOSED OF FIVE MEMBERS.

ITEM 11.KK VINEYARDS.

[11.KK. CONSIDER APPOINTMENT - VINEYARDS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS]

>> HERE WE GO.

MEMBERS SERVE THREE YEAR TERMS AND DO NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS, AND THEY MEET 2-4 TIMES PER YEAR.

CARRIE ROBERTS IS THE LIAISON TO THIS BOARD.

THE CURRENT MEMBERS ARE LISTED ON THE SCREEN AND INCLUDE ONE VACANCY.

ALL FIVE POSITIONS ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

KENT MEYER HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE OWNERS, TOM NIELSEN, I'M SORRY, THERE'S NOT ANY VACANCIES.

KENT MEYER HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE OWNERS, TOM NIELSEN AND TOM NIELSEN, JUNIOR BY THE DEVELOPERS, LARRY TEAGUE AND SHAWN VENHAUS BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SERVE ADDITIONAL TERMS.

>> I MOVED TO REAPPOINT KENT MEYER, THOMAS NIELSON, TOM NIELSEN JUNIOR, LARRY TEAGUE, SHAWN VENHAUS.

>> GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? THAT ONE PASSES WITH A 4-0 VOTE.

BEFORE YOU RUN AWAY THERE, JOHNNY, LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM 11Y.

WOULD MOVE TO TAKE THAT FROM THE TABLE, SO TAKING IT UP.

DO WE VOTE ON THAT? I'VE NEVER TAKEN ANYTHING FROM THE TABLE.

>> YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IT TO THE TABLE, YOU CAN JUST PICK IT UP.

I WILL SAY THAT YOU DID MAKE A MOTION AND VOTE TO REAPPOINT TRACY SHAY ALREADY, SO YOU HAVE ONE OR BOTH VACANCIES ARE UP FOR CONSIDERATION STILL.

>> ON THAT ONE, I DID SEE MISS JOANNE GARCIA FLORES INTERESTED IN SERVING ON ANOTHER BOARD, AND I THINK SHE'D BE A GOOD FIT FOR THIS ONE.

IS THERE A CRITERIA ON THIS GATEWAY BOARD?

>> OKAY. WOULD MOVE TO APPOINT JOANNE GARCIA FLORES TO EAST GATEWAY.

>> MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

>> ANY OPPOSED? AND YOU SAY WE STILL HAVE ONE VACANCY LEFT?

>> CORRECT. SO THERE IS ONE VACANCY BEGINNING ON, SORRY, ONE SERVING THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2025 AND THEN TWO MEMBERS WHICH INCLUDE MR. SHAY BEGINNING ON JANUARY 1ST OF 2025.

SO YOU NEED TO SPECIFY WHETHER YOU WANT MRS. GARCIA FLORES TO SERVE THROUGH NEXT DECEMBER OR SERVE THREE YEARS STARTING ON JANUARY 1ST?

>> I'D PREFER HER TO SERVE THE THREE YEAR TERM STARTING JANUARY 1.

>> PERFECT.

>> DOES THAT TAKE CARE OF OUR VACANCY ISSUE?

>> IT TAKES CARE OF ONE VACANCY ISSUE, AND YOU HAVE ONE MORE.

>> OKAY. SO WOULD GO BACK TO COUNCILMAN SIMPSON, PUT THAT BACK OUT AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET ONE MORE, BRING THIS ONE BACK, OR DID WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE YOU LIKE?

>> I THINK IF WE PUT IT BACK OUT TO SEE IF ANYONE THAT APPLIED THAT HAS NOT BEEN APPOINTED WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THIS.

>> WOULD GIVE STAFF AN OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO MRS. GARCIA FLORES, SEE IF SHE'S EVEN INTERESTED FOR THIS BOARD.

>> OKAY. AND JUST NOTE THIS ONE WILL ESSENTIALLY BE FINISHING OUT A TERM FOR ONE YEAR.

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