[1. Call to Order]
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CITIZENS AND STAFF, PARTICIPATING AND SHOWING UP FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEETING HERE.
WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL OURSELVES TO ORDER, AND FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
[2. Invocation Davlyn Duesterhaus, Retired BSA Chaplain]
WE WILL IF EVERYONE WILL STAND.DO WE HAVE MISS DAVLIN? WE DO. READY HERE FOR OUR OPENING INVOCATION.
OH, GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS DAY.
WITH GRATITUDE FOR OUR MAYOR, COMMISSIONERS, AND OUR CITY EMPLOYEES WHO WORK AT THIS LOWER LEVEL.
MAY YOU GRANT THEM WISDOM AND GUIDANCE IN ALL OF THE BUSINESS THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF, AND ALSO LEAD AND GUIDE THEM TO WHATEVER ELSE IS PRESENTED.
THANK YOU FOR THE MOISTURE THAT YOU HAVE GIFTED US WITH, AND MAY YOU CONTINUE TO BLESS OUR AREA.
WE ASK A BLESSING ON ALL OF THIS THIS AFTERNOON.
IF YOU GUYS WOULD JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
THANK YOU. GUYS, PLEASE BE SEATED.
OKAY. WE'RE ALREADY TO NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA HERE TODAY.
WE'VE GOT SOMEWHAT OF A LIGHTER AGENDA, SO WE'LL SEE HOW QUICKLY WE GET THROUGH IT.
MISS CITY SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NOT THIS WEEK, MAYOR. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO, PUBLIC COMMENT.
[6. Public Comment]
MISS CITY SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO. WE HAVE FIVE CITIZENS.THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
YOUR INPUT AND YOUR OPINIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US, AND WE ARE GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE TO SHARE THEM.
EVERY SPEAKER TODAY WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.
THEY CAN GIVE YOU A STATEMENT OF FACT OR A STATEMENT OF POLICY.
WITH THAT, WE WILL INVITE OUR FIRST SPEAKER UP.
THAT WILL BE ALAN FEINGOLD, AND ON DECK AFTER MISTER FEINGOLD WILL BE NATHAN SMITH.
ALAN FEINGOLD, 2601 NORTH GRAND STREET.
THE CITY SPENDS MILLIONS, PERHAPS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR ON ROAD MAINTENANCE.
HOWEVER, IT ALWAYS SEEMS THAT THERE ARE ROADS IN AMARILLO WHICH DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE MAINTENANCE.
THIS COULD BE THE RESULT OF A HYPERCRITICAL ATTITUDE ON MY PART.
HOWEVER, I BELIEVE MANY CITIZENS SHARE THE SAME OBSERVATION.
IT MIGHT BE THE RESULT OF THE STEADY EXPANSION OF THE CITY TOWARDS THE WEST AND SOUTHWEST, WHICH HAS REQUIRED THAT THE CITY MAKE EXTRAORDINARY EXPENDITURES IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THAT EXPANSION.
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VARIES FROM APPROXIMATELY 90FT IN WIDTH AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS TO APPROXIMATELY 60FT IN WIDTH AT THE NARROWEST POINT OF THE THOROUGHFARES.AS LONG AS THE CITY MAINTAINS AN INDEFINITE COMMITMENT TO EXPANSION, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO FIND SUFFICIENT FINANCES FOR REPAIRING THE ROADS THAT EXIST IN THE CITY IN THE PART OF IT WHICH IS GENERALLY REGARDED AS OLD AND PERHAPS NOT AS USEFUL AS IT ONCE WAS.
SO I DO SUGGEST THAT WHENEVER YOU ARE CONSIDERING AN EXPANSION OF THE CITY IN ANY DIRECTION, YOU CONSIDER THE EFFECT OF THAT EXPENDITURE ON THE PROSPECT OF BEING ABLE TO REPAIR THE ROADS AND STREETS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.
JUST FOR AN EXAMPLE, THE CITY HAS AN INTERSECTION AT SOUTHWEST THIRD AND PIERCE, APPROXIMATELY THREE BLOCKS FROM HERE, WHICH SEEMS PERPETUALLY TO BE IN NEED OF REPAIR.
THE ASPHALT GETS GOUGED OUT BY THE TRAFFIC OVER A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR AFTER IT IS REPAIRED, AND IT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE THAT THE CITY NEVER HAS QUITE ENOUGH MONEY TO REPAIR THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.
I SUGGEST, THEREFORE, THAT THE NEXT TIME YOU REPAIR IT, USE CONCRETE, NOT ASPHALT, AND MAKE SURE IT IS REINFORCED. MOREOVER, THERE'S AN INTERSECTION OF THE PIERCE STREET AND AMARILLO BOULEVARD, WHICH IS A PERPETUAL DANGER TO ANY PEDESTRIAN WHO HAS THE NERVE TO CROSS IT.
I SUGGEST THAT YOU PUT STRIPES ON THAT PARTICULAR INTERSECTION, AND THAT YOU CONSIDER ALSO THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING CONCRETE THERE.
THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU.
NATHAN SMITH, AND ON DECK AFTER MR. SMITH WILL BE [INAUDIBLE].
THAT IS DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO WANT TO BE THAT CLOSE TO MY HOUSE.
I AM GOING TO TRY TO GET THROUGH MY RANT AS PEACEFULLY AS POSSIBLE.
SOME OF YOU KNOW PERSONALLY HOW MUCH I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE, SO OBVIOUSLY I'M IRRITATED.
ANYWAY, AS ALWAYS, I WILL START WITH A BIBLE QUOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL IT OUT OF DEUTERONOMY.
WELL, 22, 28 AND 29, YADDA YADDA YADDA.
IF A MAN FINDS A DAMSEL THAT IS A VIRGIN WHICH IS NOT BETROTHED, AND LAY HOLD ON HER AND LIE WITH HER, AND THEY BE FOUND, THEN THE MAN THAT LAY WITH HER SHALL GIVE UNTO THE DAMSEL'S FATHER'S 50 SHEKELS OF SILVER AND SHE SHALL BE HIS WIFE, BECAUSE HE HATH HUMBLED HER, HE MAY NOT PUT HER AWAY ALL HIS DAYS, LOOPING BACK AROUND TO THAT LATER.
WE'RE NOT A THEOCRACY, SO IT'S COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT, BUT GREETINGS, COUNCIL.
I IMAGINE SOME OF YOU HAVE FIGURED OUT WHY I'M HERE.
THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MAGGOT GROUP TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE AMARILLO DEFINES HUMAN AS INCUBATORS AND NOT HUMANS, WHICH IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME, BUT THAT'S MY PURPOSE.
YOU HAVE A FACTION WHO'S BEEN PUSHING FOR IT, THE PRO-LIFERS, THEY CLAIM, BUT I MEAN, WELL, CNN HAS REPORTED TWO WOMEN IN TEXAS, THERE HAVE BEEN MORE, BUT AT LEAST TWO WOMEN.
IF THEY COULDN'T GET THE PROCEDURE DONE, THEY WERE GOING TO DIE.
ONE OF THEM LUCKED OUT, THE HEARTBEAT FADED, AND THEY WERE FINALLY ABLE TO SAVE HER.
THE OTHER ONE, SHE WAITED FOR THE SUPREME COURT OF TEXAS TO SAY, HEY, YEAH, WE'D PREFER YOU TO BE FERTILE AND STILL BE ABLE TO REPRODUCE, AND THE TEXAS SUPREME COURT SAID, NO, YOU CAN GO [EXPLETIVE] OFF.
THAT'S FINE. THAT'S OUR SUPREME COURT, THAT'S OUR PRO-LIFE SUPREME COURT.
[EXPLETIVE] OFF! DIE! MY APOLOGIES.
I WILL STEP AWAY IF I SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
APPRECIATE THAT. ANYWAY, OUR LOVELY GOVERNOR SAID RAPE WAS GOING TO GO AWAY IN THIS STATE, JUST LIKE RAPE VANISHED IN ALL THE PRO RAPE STATES. THAT'S WHY THERE WAS AN 11 YEAR OLD GIVEN BIRTH TO A BABY, AND THEN GOING INTO SEVENTH GRADE IN MISSISSIPPI, ANOTHER PLACE THAT IS PRO RAPE.
OUR MAGIC GOVERNOR SAID, WE'RE GOING TO GO AFTER RAPISTS HARD BECAUSE RAPE IS A CRIME.
THAT'S WHAT OUR BIG BRAIN PROFESSOR X GOVERNOR SAID.
TURNS OUT TO GO AFTER A RAPIST, THEY HAVE TO RAPE FIRST.
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I DON'T I DON'T IT WASN'T MENTIONED IN HIS COMICS, BUT I THOUGHT HE WAS, PROFESSOR X FOR A SECOND.ANYWAY, SO WE'RE PRO RAPE IN TEXAS.
IF YOU THINK WE'RE PRO-LIFE, THAT'S THOSE LITTLE BROWN BABIES DROWNING AT THE BORDER.
BECAUSE TEXAS WILL LITERALLY USE ITS OWN RESOURCES TO STOP THE LITTLE BROWN BABIES FROM BEING SAVED.
I JUST THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE THE POPULATION A CHANCE TO VOTE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO. YOU GUYS ARE POLITICIANS.
YOU KNOW HOW FRAMING WITH POLLS STUFFS WORK? DON'T USE HEY ARE WOMEN INCUBATORS OR ARE WOMEN PEOPLE.
APPRECIATE YOU NATHAN. HAVE A GOOD DAY.
HEY, I THINK I DID PRETTY WELL.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, MAKING SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.
INDEED. YOU ALL HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY.
YOU TOO, SIR. GIVE THEM THE VOTE.
I DON'T BELIEVE I SEE HIM IN HERE.
NEXT UP, MICHAEL DAMRON, AND AFTER MR. DAMRON WILL BE JESSE [INAUDIBLE].
MINE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
I WANT TO GIVE THANKS TO ADMIRAL WILLIAM H.
MCRAVEN, RETIRED MICHAEL, FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS LIFE, DECIDED TO TAKE MR. MCRAVEN'S ADVICE.
I WILL NOT BE RINGING THE BELL, NOR WILL RUDOLPH THE RED NOSED REINDEER NO LONGER BE SUGAR COOKIED.
NOW, AS FAR AS THE SIGNAGE GOES AT EAST RIDGE LANES, I HAVE SPOKEN TO TRIPLE A.
I HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THE SENIOR MEMBER.
MOST OF THE ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THE SIGN BETWEEN 1956 AND 1959 HAVE PASSED ON.
I RECEIVED A CALL BACK FROM THE SENIOR MEMBER, BUT I WAS IN WICHITA FALLS, TEXAS AT THE TIME.
SO I DID NOT WANT TO FILL HIM UP WITH ANY USELESS, USELESS INFORMATION THAT HE ALREADY KNOWS.
SO I WILL BE SPEAKING TO HIM, AND I WAS A LITTLE IMPETUOUS ABOUT THE SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS IN IT.
MOST PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WAS INVOLVED IN MARRYING THAT SIGN TOGETHER.
BETWEEN 1956 AND 1959, WHEN I WAS JUST A BOY.
SO THE MAIN THING HERE IS THAT THE CITY OF AMARILLO GET THEIR MONEY'S WORTH.
EAST RIDGE LANES IS NOT HOUNDED WITH HAVING SERVICE HERE AND THERE, AND THAT IT'S DONE PROPERLY.
SO I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT FOR EXPEDIENCE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONTACT AAA.
I WILL, JUST AS SOON AS I POSSIBLY CAN SEE MY WAY.
I WILL BE TALKING TO THE SENIOR MEMBER, AND I'M SURE THAT WE WILL COME TO AGREEMENT.
YOU GUYS GET YOUR MONEY'S WORTH.
CITY, AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER SECURING IT BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME.
IF MY HUNCH IS RIGHT, IT'S MOVED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
I DID NOT DROP A PLUMB LINE AND SEE, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT IT'S KIND OF LIKE AN ABSCESSED TOOTH RIGHT NOW, AND THE SOUTHWESTERLY WIND IS BLOWING 100 POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT ON THAT.
EIGHT FOOT BOWLING CAN AND SHE'S GOING THAT DIRECTION.
LUCKILY, NORTH INSTEAD OF SOUTH.
YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, MR. DAMRON. JESSE [INAUDIBLE] IS NEXT.
I'M JESSE [INAUDIBLE], 5723 SOUTH [INAUDIBLE].
AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOUR AGREEMENT IS GOING TO BE WITH THIS LEASE.
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DIAMOND, BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE CONCERNED TO ME THAT WE WRITE THESE LEASES TO DO THINGS THAT I REALLY THINK WE NEED POLICEMEN, WE NEED SECURITY IN THIS CITY.WE NEED GOOD STREETS, AND LIKE ALAN MENTIONED, I'VE GOT A STREET OVER ON SOUTH 58TH STREET THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN COMPROMISED BY THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM, AND WE HAVE WATER CONCERNS IN THIS CITY, AND WE'RE ADDRESSING THE ABUSE OF WATER IN OUR CITY, AND THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WATERING THEIR LAWNS AND IT'S RUNNING INTO THE STREETS AND COMPROMISING OUR STREETS, AND I HOPE THERE'LL BE SOME KIND OF EFFORT THAT CAN BE RECTIFIED, THAT WE CAN CONTROL THE WATER BEING DRAINED OFF OUR PROPERTIES RATHER THAN GOING INTO THE STREETS, AND THEN WE'LL GET RID OF THIS DRAINAGE FEE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. [INAUDIBLE], AND NEXT WILL BE [INAUDIBLE].
CAN WE TURN THIS AROUND? IT'S OKAY.
I'M WITH THE KEEP AMARILLO CLEAN.
I'M THE ONE THAT STARTED FROM THE BEGINNING.
SO I WANTED TO MAKE A BIG EFFORT THIS YEAR STARTING APRIL NATIONAL CLEANUP DAY, WHICH IS THE THIRD SATURDAY OF SEPTEMBER. IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CLEANUP EVERY THIRD SATURDAY OF THE MONTH, AND DURING THE APRIL EVERY DAY IS A CLEAN UP DAY.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE REALLY EVERYBODY HAS TO WORK HARD, YOU KNOW? TRASH IS A BIG PROBLEM IN OUR CITY.
I MEAN, I HAVE TRAVELED TO MANY, MANY COUNTRIES, BUT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE TO WORK HARD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO WORK WITH THE I WILL WORK WITH THE CITY AND ALSO SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, AND WE'LL MAKE IT A GOOD EFFORT THIS YEAR.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY.
THANK YOU. [INAUDIBLE]. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. I WANT TO INVOLVE OUR CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
CHURCHES AND EVERYBODY YOU KNOW CAN INVOLVE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING WITH THE SENIORS NOW.
WE HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY TOMORROW, SINCE IT'S A NICE DAY, WE ARE CLEANING UP.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR.
YOU KNOW, MORE AND MORE SENIORS AND RETIREES.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST GO OUT, GO OUT AND THEN TAKE ONE, ONE AREA AND JUST CLEAN IT UP.
WE HAVE TO REDUCE OUR TRASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE WIND PICKS IT UP.
WIND IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, AND ALSO MANY, MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, GOING WITH THE PICKUP TRUCKS, SO MUCH TRASH COMING OUT OF THE PICKUP TRUCKS BECAUSE OF THE WIND, YOU KNOW, JUST JUST COMES OUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A BAGS OF TRASH AND THE AMARILLO BOULEVARD.
DON'T DROP IT IN THE OUTSIDE TRASH CANS.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FULL SOMETIMES AND THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO EMPTY THEM, AND ALSO THE WIND, IT COMES OUT SAME THING. WE HAVE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THE DUMPSTERS, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER A CITY PICKS UP, SOME OF IT FALLS ON THE GROUND AND WE LOSE STUFF, SMALL TRASH AND THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEANED, OTHERWISE IT WILL GO SOMEPLACE ELSE.
THE ALLEYS ARE TERRIBLE SHAPE, SOME OF THE ALLEYS.
SOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE REAL CLEAN, BUT SOME NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NOT.
SO WE HAVE TO WORK, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND THAT'S WHAT MY GOAL IS.
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SO I WANT EVERYBODY'S HELP IN THIS REGARD.YOU KNOW, TAKE IT AS YOUR PROBLEM WAS OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, LET'S CLEAN IT UP, AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S TAKE PRIDE IN OUR CITY, AND SAME THING WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE GO BY THE, SCHOOL DISTRICT, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BOUNDARIES.
THERE'S OUR NEW NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
I HAVE ACCESS TO ALL 55 SCHOOLS IN AISD, AND ALSO I'M TRYING TO, ENROLL THIS YEAR.
THIS YEAR, AMARILLO CANYON BUSHLAND AND RIVER ROAD AS A METRO AREA.
I THINK WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF CLEANING OUR CITY.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE VOLUNTEERED A FEW TIMES AND WE'RE HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER AGAIN.
SO I'LL ASK CITY SECRETARY IF IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO PUT THIS UP ON SOME OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA OR MAYBE THE WEB PAGE, AND THEN, I KNOW YOU WORK WELL WITH PARKS AND REC AND THOSE GUYS OVER THERE, AND SO WE'RE GLAD TO TRY TO COME ALONGSIDE YOU.
THAT'S ANOTHER THING I ADVISE EVERYBODY.
IF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CLEAN.
I MEAN, I LIVE IN A CLEAN NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, BUT OUR CITY, THIS IS OUR CITY.
SO IF YOU THINK YOUR CITY IS CLEAN, I MEAN, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CLEAN [INAUDIBLE] WITH PARKS.
WE NEED VOLUNTEERS IN THE PARKS.
WE CAN DO THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, EVERY MONTH OR EVERY, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER YOU HAVE TIME, YOU KNOW, JUST CONNECT WITH, PARKS DEPARTMENT AND YOU TAKE ONE LEG, IT TAKES MAYBE FIVE, 4 OR 5 PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, TO CLEAN UP ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT SOME OF THE PARKS, LIKE THOMPSON PARK, IT TAKES MORE PEOPLE. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE THEIR OWN TRASH BAGS HOME WHEN THEY GO TO THE PARKS. THAT'S THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WE'RE HAVING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PRODUCING TOO MUCH TRASH.
THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE SIDE OF THE DUMPSTER, AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THE CITY CANNOT PICK IT UP BECAUSE THEY HAVE ONLY ONE DRIVER, YOU KNOW, JUST PICK UP THE, YOU KNOW, EMPTY THE DUMPSTER. MR. [INAUDIBLE], WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, AND WE RIGHTLY ALIGNED WITH YOUR CAUSE.
SO LET US TRY TO GET WITH YOU ON A FEW OF THESE DATES AND WE'LL COORDINATE IT TOGETHER.
ALL RIGHT, AND ALSO, I WANT TO I HAVE SOMETHING EXCITING NEWS FOR YOU, BUT, ON APRIL 27TH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CELEBRATION AT CADILLAC PARK.
YOU KNOW, THE BUSHLAND, CANYON WALL AND OUR CITY, YOU KNOW, WE ALL CAN PARTICIPATE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, PEOPLE GET EXCITED AND THEN A LOT OF PEOPLE CAN BRING TRASH BAGS THERE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW.
WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THE DATE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR.
THANK YOU SIR. HAVE A GREAT DAY.
MAYOR, THAT CONCLUDES OUR SIGNUPS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? WELL, HANG ON ONE SECOND THERE.
ARE YOU GOOD? OKAY, COME ON DOWN.
WE'LL DO. WE'LL DO JAMES FIRST AND THEN.
WELL, WHY DON'T YOU ALL JUST COME TOGETHER? I'M NOT TAKING MUCH TIME.
WE GOT AN EXTRA MICROPHONE, YOU KNOW.
YOU KNOW HOW WE USED TO ALWAYS.
WELL, DON'T MESS WITH AMARILLO.
YOU KNOW, DON'T MESS WITH AMARILLO.
YES, SIR. SAME THING GOES ON AT THE GYM AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, THE GUYS LEAVE TOWELS EVERYWHERE.
THIS BACK TO AN INFRASTRUCTURE THING, AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED WITH DONNIE AND Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME NEW CEMENT STREETS WITH THAT HIGH THING IN THERE, FOLKS. THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE PAINTED.
THOSE THINGS NEED TO STAND OUT.
I SAW A GUY IN A PICKUP TRUCK JUST MADE THE LITTLE QUICKER TURN, AND HE HIT THAT ONE AND IT'S WONDERING, PROBABLY GOT SOME DAMAGE, AND JUST LIKE WE'VE TALKED, AND MOST I KNOW PAINTING IS I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT IF WE HAVE A PAINT CREW THAT GOES AROUND, BUT ALL OF OUR MEDIANS ARE BASICALLY INVISIBLE WHEN IT'S RAINING OR IT'S GOT AND YOU'RE IN THE DARK, AND I SEE PEOPLE BOUNCING OVER THEM, SO THAT'S JUST MY I'LL THROW TWO CENTS AT IT, PLUS TAXES.
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YEAH. OF COURSE. THANK YOU.THANK YOU SIR. MS. [INAUDIBLE], PLEASE COME UP.
MR. [INAUDIBLE] AND I ARE FRIENDLY AND WORTHY OPPONENTS THAT WE'RE VERY FRIENDLY.
I WANT TO SPEAK TO, AND I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T GET TO CALL EARLIER.
I'VE BEEN TIED UP WITH SCHOOL STUFF.
I WANT TO SPEAK TO 9B, AND I HAD WANTED TO TALK WITH MR. FREEMAN BEFOREHAND, BUT I DIDN'T HAVE TIME, AND 9E UNDER NON CONSENT ITEMS. ON CONSIDER AND UNDERSTAND IS FIRST READING ON ORDINANCE NUMBER 8117, AND I WAS WONDERING WHY THE CITY IS GIVING UP ITS ABILITY TO WORK WITH DEVELOPERS IN A LARGER AREA.
I SPOKE WITH A, A CONSULTANT ON CITY STUFF, AND HE SAID HE'D NEVER HEARD OF A CITY GIVING UP THEIR AUTHORITY OR ABILITY TO WORK IN THAT AREA, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO, ASK FOR MORE STUDY AND IF THERE'S ANY QUICK ANSWER WHY WE'RE DOING IT, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT AND THEN ON 9E, MY WORTHY FRIEND, MR. SCHERLEN. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT AGREE WITH OPERATION LONE STAR, AND THE GOVERNOR IS OPENLY AND INTENTIONALLY VIOLATING THE US CONSTITUTION.
I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU READ ARTICLE SIX OF THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH SAYS THAT FEDERAL LAW IS THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND, AND WITHIN HIS PROGRAM OF OPERATION LONE STAR, HE IS VIOLATING THE US CONSTITUTION, NOT JUST BY REFUSING TO ALLOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO DO THEIR JOB, BUT, UNDER HIS TRESPASS LAW, UNDER, OPERATION LONE STAR, HE IS GRABBING PEOPLE, PUTTING THEM IN A PRISON THAT HE PUT TOGETHER AND WAITING WEEKS AND MONTHS TO CHARGE THEM.
THAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, AND ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL, I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE THE MERITS OF THE GOVERNOR'S ACTIONS, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT IT'S QUESTIONABLE WHETHER THE CITY OUGHT TO BE GRADING THE LEGISLATURE OR GRADING THE GOVERNOR.
SO WE GOT SO MANY MORE THINGS IN THE CITY THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSING, LIKE NO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE LIKE THE TEXACO MESS OUT THERE THAT'S BEEN ABANDONED, THAT THERE ARE FEDERAL FUNDS TO CLEAN UP THAT MESS.
THERE ARE FEDERAL FUNDS, AND WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH CITY ISSUES WHEN WE'RE RUNNING AROUND TRYING TO SAY WE SUPPORT THE GOVERNOR IN HIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIONS, AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS TODAY.
MS. [INAUDIBLE], WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION IF YOU HANG AROUND.
OKAY. TO THOSE ITEMS. THANK YOU.
IT LOOKS LIKE I HAVE ANOTHER? IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER ALVARADO, AND MY ADDRESS IS 1956 SOUTH WOODLAND.
HOWEVER, THOUGH I HAVE NOTICED EVERY TIME I DO GO TO ANY OF THESE MEETINGS, IT TAKES ME FOREVER.
ONE, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CAR AND TWO, BECAUSE THIS CITY ISN'T WALKABLE AT ALL.
SIDEWALKS, EVERYTHING'S BROKEN.
SO. THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT I WISH COULD BE FIXED IN THIS PLACE, A WALKABLE CITY, AT LEAST FOR EVERYONE, SO THEY CAN. PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO CAN'T AFFORD A CAR RIGHT NOW, CAN DO STUFF FOR THE COMMUNITY AND GO TO ALL THESE CITY MEETINGS TO ADVOCATE OUR VOICES SO YOU CAN HEAR THEM SO EVERYONE ELSE CAN HEAR THEM, AND THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY TODAY.
APPRECIATE YOU. DON'T HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE WE MOVE ON.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON WITH OUR SCHEDULE HERE TODAY.
THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM SEVEN, OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. DO I HAVE ANYTHING FROM COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON BEFORE WE MOVE INTO ITEM SEVEN B?
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YES, SIR. OKAY.[7.B. Update on Fleet Services]
ITEM 7B, WE HAVE DONNIE HOOPER COMING UP HERE FOR AN UPDATE ON OUR FLEET SERVICES, MR. HOOPER. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.NOW, YOU HEARD A LOT OF THIS STUFF DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSIONS THAT TOOK PLACE, LAST SPRING, BUT I ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT OUR CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE FACING NOW, SOME FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME FOR Q&A AT THE END OF THIS.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT IT.
WE ALSO DO HAVE SOME FLEET THAT'S FUNDED BY THE ENTERPRISE DEPARTMENTS.
THAT MAKES UP ABOUT 22% OF OUR FLEET.
OUR INTERNAL LEASING PROGRAM ESTABLISHES A RENTAL RATE FOR EACH OF THE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT INCLUDES REPLACEMENT COSTS OR MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS AND THEN WE GO BACK IN OUR CHARGE OUR DEPARTMENT'S A RATE FOR LEASING THAT VEHICLE FROM FLEET.
WHEN THE VEHICLE HAS REACHED THE END OF ITS SERVICE LIFE, IT SHOULD BE REPLACED, AND IN SOME CASES, YOU'LL SEE THIS PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE NOT REPLACING THOSE AT THE PREDICTED TIME THAT WAS GOING TO REACH THE END OF THE LIFE OR END OF SERVICE LIFE FOR THOSE VEHICLES.
ALSO, LEASES, RATHER THAN SET ASIDE FUNDING OR RESERVE FUNDING TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FLEET ISSUES.
THAT'S WHAT STARTED IT ALL, AND STILL TO THIS DAY, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME CATCHING UP WITH THE MANUFACTURERS, BEING ABLE TO PRODUCE ENOUGH VEHICLES TO GO BACK AND REPLACE VEHICLES THAT WERE ORDERED IN 2021-22 AND NOW UP TO 23 AND 24.
OUR FLEET DIVISION RIGHT NOW OWNS 1152 PIECES OF WHAT WE CALL ROLLING STOCK.
THERE'S MORE THAN THIS IN OUR FLEET, BUT THAT WOULD INCLUDE TRAILERS AND MOWERS AND THINGS LIKE THIS, BUT THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WE CALL OUR ROLLING FLEET OR ROLLING STOCK, 152 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT. WE HAVE 283 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE DEPARTMENT OWNED.
NOW, DEPARTMENT OWNED IS NOT A POSITIVE NUMBER.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SEE AS A GOOD THING.
WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS THAT DEPARTMENTS ARE HOLDING ON TO VEHICLES AFTER THEY FINISH THEIR LEASE AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO GET A REPLACEMENT FOR THAT, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO HOLD ON TO IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE ANOTHER VEHICLE COMING ANY TIME SOON TO REPLACE THAT.
SO YOU HAVE A HIGH MILEAGE VEHICLE THAT STAYS IN THE FLEET.
IT'S STILL IN THE GENERAL FUND.
IT'S JUST NOW BEING MANAGED BY THAT DEPARTMENT INSTEAD OF OUR FLEET DEPARTMENT.
OUR TOTAL EQUIPMENT NUMBERS ARE 1435.
IF YOU ADD THOSE NUMBERS TOGETHER AND THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE 902 OF THOSE THAT ARE FLEET OWNED.
AGAIN, THE OTHER 22% IS OUR ENTERPRISE FUND.
EACH OF THOSE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IS IN A SPECIFIC RATE GROUP.
SO EACH OF THEM HAVE A DIFFERENT LIFESPAN ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
A POLICE CAR, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD BE ON OUR REPLACEMENT CYCLE EVERY FOUR YEARS.
WE WOULD ALSO HAVE A PICKUP THAT MAYBE WOULD WORK IN ANOTHER DEPARTMENT.
THAT MAY BE EIGHT YEARS. YOU MAY HAVE A METER READER TRUCK THAT'S SIX YEARS.
THEY ALL HAVE DIFFERENT LIFESPANS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF MILES THAT THEY PUT ON EVERY YEAR.
SO 23% OF THAT, AGAIN, OLDER THAN TEN YEARS, 44% OF THE FLEET, 507 UNITS RIGHT NOW ARE DUE OR PAST DUE FOR REPLACEMENT AND I KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT IN BUDGET LAST YEAR.
WE DO HAVE SOME CURRENTLY LEASED EQUIPMENT.
MOST OF THIS IS HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT'S AT OUR LANDFILL.
WE HAVE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT SUCH AS OUR OUR SCRAPERS OR OUR COMPACTORS.
COMPACTOR NOW IS RUNNING ABOUT 1.6 MILLION TO PURCHASE A NEW ONE.
WE STARTED LEASING THOSE BACK WHEN THE PRICE WAS AROUND 1.1 MILLION, AND THEY CONTINUE TO GO UP EACH AND EVERY YEAR, BUT AGAIN, MOSTLY ALL THAT LEASED EQUIPMENT IS OUT AT THE LANDFILL. THIS IS AN INTERESTING NUMBER HERE.
17% OF THAT HAS OCCURRED OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
22 AND 23 IS WHERE WE SAW THE BIGGEST RISE IN THE INCREASE IN PARTS COSTS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS PARTS HERE AT THE CITY OF AMARILLO, WE'VE SEEN A 76% INCREASE IN OUR EXPENDITURES FROM 2019.
YOU SEE, WE SPENT $1.4 MILLION IN PARTS IN 2019, 2.5 MILLION IN 22.
WE THINK WHEN WE GET TO OUR BUSIEST PART OF THE YEAR, WHEN WE GET INTO SPRING AND SUMMER, THAT'S REALLY WHEN OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS GO UP AND WE START SEEING A LOT OF PARTS EXPENSES BUT AGAIN, MOST OF THAT'S DUE TO THE AGE OF OUR FLEET THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, AND IT COSTS MORE TO MAINTAIN THEM THE OLDER THAT THEY GET.
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SAFETY AND SOLID WASTE EQUIPMENT GOES, YOU SEE 55 AND 46% ON THOSE INCREASES THERE.THIS KIND OF BREAKS IT DOWN. YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
2019, A PUMPER TRUCK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS JUST OVER A HALF A MILLION.
IT'S OVER A MILLION NOW, 79% INCREASE.
LADDER TRUCKS, JUST OVER A MILLION.
NOW, THEY'RE A MILLION AND A HALF.
POLICE INTERCEPTORS HAVE GONE UP $10,000 OR 27%.
THAT'S THE ASLS THAT PICK UP THE CART.
SO WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT CREATES A LOT OF CHALLENGES FOR US CURRENTLY.
RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE $19 MILLION IN EQUIPMENT THAT'S DUE TO BE REPLACED.
THAT IS, RIGHT NOW THAT'S THE 507 UNITS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
IF WE WERE IN A NORMAL IF WE HAD THE MONEY, WE WOULD BE ORDERING 507 UNITS.
WE ARE ORDERING $5 MILLION WORTH OF REPLACEMENT.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE.
SLIDE OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.
HE'S NOT A VERY POPULAR PERSON WHEN IT COMES TO PURCHASING FOR THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, BUT HE HAS TO DECIDE WHAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT WITH DISCUSSIONS THROUGH MANAGEMENT DISCUSSIONS THAT OCCUR WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, WE HAVE TO FILL THE NEED AT THAT CURRENT TIME.
AVAILABILITY OF EQUIPMENT HAS ALSO BEEN OTHER ISSUES PRODUCTION DELAYS, BACKLOGS AT MANUFACTURERS.
SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE 507 WE TALKED ABOUT THAT ARE DUE.
THEY COME UP TO ABOUT $19 MILLION IN CURRENT PRICING.
WE'RE REPLACING 15 UNITS THAT ARE BEING ORDERED, AND THAT'S ALL FIRE AND SOLID WASTE.
SO THAT'S FIRE TRUCKS AND SOLID WASTE EQUIPMENT THAT MAKES UP THAT TOTAL.
WE WANT TO PROJECT OUT IN FIVE YEARS.
1207 ADDITIONAL UNITS ARE GOING TO BE NEED TO BE REPLACED.
OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AT CURRENT PRICING, THAT'S 35 MILLION.
SO WHEN WE TOTAL A VEHICLE OUT, WE HAVE TO GET THAT REPLACED.
SO SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, WE ARE IN NEED RIGHT NOW IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE OF 25 PATROL VEHICLES, THAT WERE ORDERED IN 2021, 30 PATROL VEHICLES AND LIAISON VEHICLES THAT WERE ORDERED IN 2022, WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED THOSE.
WELL, WE HAVE VIN NUMBERS FOR 29 OF THOSE PATROL VEHICLES.
I MIGHT ADD TO THAT THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE 2016 MODELS.
SO THEY'RE WELL OVER THAT FOUR YEARS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO WE'VE HAD TO CONTINUE TO EXTEND THE LIFE OF THESE WELL PAST, WHAT THEIR USEFUL LIFE IS.
FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS ALSO NEEDING THREE PICKUPS FOR THEIR INVESTIGATORS, THE MARSHAL'S OFFICE NEEDING A VEHICLE FOR THEM AS WELL, AND OUR OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS NEEDING A COUPLE OF VEHICLES FOR THEIR STAFF.
SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS WE'VE STARTED VISITING ABOUT A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT WITH D AND M LEASING.
WE HAVE ACTUALLY GIVEN THEM A LETTER OF INTENT THAT DOESN'T IT'S NOT BINDING AT ALL.
THE LETTER OF INTENT BASICALLY SAYS YOUR WINDOWS ARE OPEN RIGHT NOW FOR ORDERING.
IN OTHER WORDS, D&M COULD COME IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT OUR FLEET AND SAY, IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS, THIS IS HOW I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU MODEL THIS OUT SHOULD WE DECIDE TO GO WITH SOME TYPE OF LEASING MODEL, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING TODAY THAT WE'RE GOING WITH A LEASING MODEL ALL ACROSS THE FLEET.
THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED DURING THE BUDGET TIME, WHEN WE GOT TO THAT POINT.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF BUYING POWER.
THEY BUY LOTS AND LOTS OF VEHICLES EVERY YEAR.
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SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUEUE OF BEING ABLE TO ORDER AND GET IT, THEY CAN GET IT FASTER THAN WE CAN LOWER INITIAL COSTS, REDUCED UPFRONT COSTS COMPARED TO PURCHASING VEHICLES.OUTRIGHT PREDICTABLE, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT.
THAT LIST THAT I GAVE YOU IS ABOUT $1.5 MILLION WORTH OF PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES, THE LEASE ON THAT FOR THE NEXT SEVEN MONTHS TO FINISH OUT THIS BUDGET YEAR IS A LITTLE OVER 290,000.
I THINK THAT'S JUST THE ESTIMATES THAT WE'VE GOT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE UP FRONT OF WHAT YOU CAN GET.
IT'S A FIXED MONTHLY PAYMENTS, AND IT WILL ALSO BE REPLACED DURING ITS USEFUL LIFE.
INSTEAD OF US TAKING THESE VEHICLES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE REPLACED IN FOUR YEARS, AND WE'RE REPLACING THEM IN 8 OR 9 YEARS AND HOPING THAT WE GET AN ORDER IN, IT SOLVES THAT PROBLEM AS WELL. THERE'S SOME OTHER TECHNOLOGICAL UPGRADES THAT COME WITH NEW EQUIPMENT AS WELL, AND THE SAFETY FACTOR OF HAVING PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN PUBLIC SAFETY, THAT ARE DRIVING VEHICLES THAT ARE WELL PAST THEIR AGE, PRESENTS A SAFETY ISSUE, AND BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE A BETTER LEVEL OF SERVICE TO OUR CUSTOMERS IS WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT.
SO I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT D&M.
I INTRODUCE AND ED CAIN IS HERE.
IF YOU WAVE YOUR HAND BACK THERE.
ED CAIN IS THE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT AND COMMERCIAL DIVISIONS FOR D&M LEASING.
SO WE BROUGHT HIM UP FOR A MEETING, AND WE MET WITH SEVERAL OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM AND TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES TO SEE IF WE COULD, INVESTIGATE IT CLOSE ENOUGH THAT WE COULD FEEL COMFORTABLE BRINGING SOMETHING BEFORE COUNCIL.
JASON JUPE IS ALSO HERE AS WELL.
JASON, RAISE YOUR HAND BACK THERE.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE JASON BECAUSE JASON IS OUR NEW FLEET SUPERINTENDENT.
JASON TOOK OVER FOR GLENN LAVENDER, WHO RETIRED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AFTER 33.5 YEARS OF SERVICE.
JASON HAS BEEN WORKING UNDER HIM.
HE ALSO RUNS THE SHOP THAT DOES ALL THE REPAIRS AS WELL.
I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THIS LIST OF D&M CUSTOMERS.
THEY ALSO HAVE THE CITY OF PORTLAND, OREGON.
THEY'RE NATIONWIDE, BUT SOME OF THE BIG, PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE HAVE HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THROUGH A TEXAS CONTRACT IS WITH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, TEXAS GENERAL LAND OFFICE, COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, TABC, AND OTHERS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT LIST RIGHT THERE.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE BRINGING TO YOU WITH THIS PRESENTATION IS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT WITH D&M LEASING, AND WHAT THIS MEANS IS NO OBLIGATION TO US TO LEASE ANYTHING.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LEASE AGREEMENT IN PLACE IN ORDER FOR US TO LEASE ANYTHING.
IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF VEHICLES.
IT'S MAINLY LOOKING AT THIS PUBLIC SAFETY PIECE THAT WE JUST PUT BEFORE YOU AND IT'S ALSO WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, LOOK AT THOSE 20 PATROL UNITS.
THE ONE CHARGER, COMPLETE THE TEN YEAR STUDY AND THEN COME BACK AND PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS DURING THE BUDGET TIME FOR WHAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT AS A LARGER PICTURE WHEN IT COMES TO FLEET. SO I'M SURE THAT GENERATES SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
NOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL? MY QUESTION WOULD BE, LAURA, HAVE WE RUN THE NUMBERS LIKE 5, 10-YEAR? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? SO I WORKED WITH DONNIE A LITTLE BIT ON LOOKING AT JUST KIND OF THIS FIRST OPTION, AND AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF THINKING MAYBE MORE OF LIKE A PILOT PROJECT JUST TO SEE HOW THIS WORKS OUT FOR US, AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING, AND I DON'T KNOW IF DONNIE HAS HIS SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE, BUT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL COST, IF WE WERE TO OUTRIGHT BUY VERSUS THE LEASING OPTION, THEY ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY EQUAL.
WHAT IT GAINS FOR US IS JUST THE LOWER UPFRONT EXPENDITURE, WHICH CAN BE HANDLED A COUPLE OF WAYS.
I MEAN, INTEREST RATES ARE VERY FAVORABLE AT THIS POINT.
OR YOU COULD START TAKING SOME OTHER BITES AT THE REPLACEMENT LIST THAT, AS DONNIE MENTIONED, WE IT'S A VERY LONG REPLACEMENT LIST. WE ARE WELL PAST THE USEFUL LIVES, AND AGAIN, I HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT THE CATCH IS ON THIS IF THERE IS ONE, BUT FROM STRAIGHT RUNNING THE NUMBERS, THERE'S ABOUT A LET'S SEE.
THIS IS 27 UNITS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND I'M COMPLETELY STEALING ALL OF DONNIE'S THUNDER HERE BECAUSE HE RAN THE NUMBERS FOR ME, BUT I VERIFIED THEM, AND SO TO PURCHASE IT, WE WERE LOOKING AT 1,567,000, TO DO THE LEASING OPTION OVER
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THERE. THE LIFE OF THE LEASE, IT WOULD BE 1,581,009 79.THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF JUST UNDER $15,000.
SO THAT IS OVER THREE YEARS ON THE [INAUDIBLE] FOR THE DURANGOS AND FOUR YEARS.
OKAY. SO BUT IN BUDGET LIKE THIS YEAR WE HAVE 5 MILLION SET ASIDE.
AT THE FIRST OF DONNIE'S PRESENTATION, HE MENTIONED THAT THE $5 MILLION IS GOING TO REPLACE HOW MANY UNITS? 15. 15 UNITS, AND THAT'S ALL FIRE TRUCKS, AND I SAY FIRE TRUCKS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF FIRE TRUCKS, SOLID WASTE TRUCKS, AND THAT'S IT. TRUCKS.
YEP. SIDE LOADERS AND FIRE TRUCKS.
THESE ARE TO START GETTING SOME VEHICLES REPLACED FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, FIRE MARSHAL AND CITY MARSHAL AREAS, AND SO THESE ARE OUTSIDE. SO DONNIE AND I ARE ALSO WERE TALKING.
WELL WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FROM.
WE HAVE 5 MILLION AND WE NEED FOR THIS YEAR WE WOULD NEED JUST UNDER 300,000.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE IS WE HAVEN'T I DON'T THINK WE'VE ORDERED ALL OF THE VEHICLES YET OF THE WITH THE $5 MILLION.
SO WE COULD LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS ON THAT.
FOR ONE THING, WE DO ALSO HAVE RESERVES IN A CAPITAL RESERVE, THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY TAP INTO TRY TO START THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF VEHICLES ON ORDER AND WE'RE STILL HOLDING ON TO THAT MONEY IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE AS DONNIE MENTIONED, WE HAD 50 POLICE UNITS THAT WERE ORDERED OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THOSE SOME.
THERE'S ACTUALLY 55, I'M SORRY, DELAYS ON UNITS IN THERE.
ABSOLUTELY, AND WE'RE NOT GUARANTEED TO GET ALL OF THEM, EVEN 29 OF THOSE THIS YEAR.
SO YOU HAVE THAT DIFFERENCE AS WELL.
SO THE MONEY IS STILL SITTING IN THE BANK.
I MEAN IT'S ON ORDER AT THIS POINT.
SOME OF THOSE WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF WE'RE GOING TO GET THE ORDERS IN OR SOME OF THEM.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THERE, AND I KNOW, I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SAY I DON'T LIKE NECESSARILY BORROWING FROM MONEY THAT WE'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, SEMI COMMITTED TO IN ANOTHER AREA, BUT I JUST THINK THE OTHER THING IS, IS ON THE REPLACEMENT SIDE, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET THE ITEMS IN THAT WE EVEN ORDERED INITIALLY.
WE HAVEN'T ORDERED THE FIRE TRUCKS AND THE SIDE LOADERS YET.
I HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION, AND SO DONNIE'S BEEN IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AS WELL WITH OUR FIRE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF EVEN LOOKING AT OPTIONS RELATED TO THE FIRE TRUCKS, WHETHER THAT'S A LEASING TYPE OPTION, POTENTIALLY EVEN AN OPTION TO DO LIKE A SEVEN YEAR TAX NOTE, BECAUSE WE CAN GET A LOWER INTEREST RATE ON THAT, WHICH ALSO WOULD MEAN LESS CASH EXPENDED UPFRONT THAN OUTRIGHT BUYING IT.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT SEVERAL OPTIONS HERE, AND I THINK THAT WE COULD EASILY COVER THIS 292,000 EVEN IF WE TEMPORARILY DIPPED INTO RESERVES.
KNOWING THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN EXPENDED EVERYTHING THAT'S EARMARKED AT THIS POINT.
DOES THAT KIND OF HELP YOU? WE ALSO HAVE CURRENT CIP THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET FOR VEHICLES, AS WELL AS REGULAR BUDGET ITEMS WERE FOR NEW ADDITIONS TO THE FLEET, THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME OF THAT AND LEASE FROM THAT MONEY, TAKE THE CASH AND PUT IT TOWARD THAT.
MAKES SENSE. ARE THE LEASED VEHICLES MORE READILY AVAILABLE? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THESE GUYS CAN SPEAK TO THAT VERSUS US ORDERING THEM.
NOW THE PICKUPS AND THE DODGE CHARGERS ON THERE, THEY HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE NOW.
THEY'RE ON THE GROUND AND READY.
WE COULD I MEAN AS SOON AS WE DO SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE THOSE SENT TOWARD US.
SO SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING BUDGET.
YES, AND I MEAN, IS THIS KIND OF YES.
THIS IS KIND OF THE FIRST ROUND OF ALL OF THAT AS WELL.
YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A LOT MORE ABOUT THIS COMING FROM ALL OF US, FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES, AND IT'S NOT JUST A WE'RE NOT TAKING THE APPROACH OF MAYBE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL FOR LEASING FOR THE ENTIRE FLEET.
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THE OTHER THING AS FAR AS FUNDING ON THIS, WE HAVE VEHICLES THAT I KNOW OUR OFFICERS ARE USING THAT ARE TEN YEARS OLD, AND I'M SURE YOU COULD ONLY IMAGINE HOW MUCH WE ARE PUTTING INTO THOSE VEHICLES THIS YEAR ALONE, JUST TO KEEP THEM REPAIRED AND MAINTAINED.SO YOU'RE SAVING ON THAT ONGOING EXPENSIVE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE COST THAT I THINK COULD HELP OFFSET SOME OF THIS 292 THIS YEAR FOR US. SO WE'VE WE'VE RUN THE NUMBERS.
I'M GUESSING JUST GETTING THIS OUT THERE FOR THE DEPRECIATION OF THE ASSETS THAT WE ACTUALLY PURCHASE VERSUS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE VEHICLES WE ACTUALLY PURCHASE VERSUS THE COST OF THE LEASE.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, RIGHT? LOOKING AT EFFICIENCIES.
WELL, AT LEAST, TWO TIMES OVER.
YEAH, AND WORTH ANYTHING WHEN WE GET RIGHT.
WELL, AND ABSOLUTELY, AND THE OTHER THING, ESPECIALLY OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AREAS, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE A GOOD, RELIABLE VEHICLE THAT THEY'RE JUMPING INTO RESPOND TO ANY KIND OF AN EMERGENCY.
SO THAT WAS KIND OF WHY WE WERE FOCUSING ON THIS GROUP FIRST.
JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S A BIG NEED ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE.
ONE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TOO, THAT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO MENTION IS THAT, THE MORALE OF THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION CHANGES, EVEN JUST IN THEM HEARING THAT THIS WAS A POSSIBILITY, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE PICKED UP THE PHONE AND CALLED AND SAID, ARE WE REALLY LOOKING AT DOING IT? WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR VEHICLES REPLACED, AND WE SAID, WELL, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MORALE OF AN ORGANIZATION AS A WHOLE, IT CHANGES THAT A LOT, AND WE TALKED TO ED AND HIS GROUP ABOUT THAT AND, AND ASK IF THEY SAW A DIFFERENCE IN THAT.
OF COURSE, THE ANSWER WAS YES.
SO SURE, IT'S KIND OF A SIDE NOTE, BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE AS WELL.
RIGHT? THE NUMBERS WORK. I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
I THINK WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT DURING BUDGET.
SO AND AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, FOR 27 UNITS THAT WE KIND OF WANT TO START WITH AND THIS ISN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKING OVER THE WHOLE FLEET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE WANT TO WORK WITH THIS GROUP TO DO A FULL BLOWN ANALYSIS OF, I GUESS, PORTIONS OF OUR FLEET, AND AGAIN, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH OUR FIRE CHIEF AND HIS TEAM ABOUT SOME OTHER OPTIONS, BECAUSE THE FIRE EQUIPMENT IS SOME OF THE VERY MOST EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT WE HAVE AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO LOOK AT THIS FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES PER Y'ALL'S REQUEST DURING BUDGET, BECAUSE WE TOLD YOU WE'VE GOT $5 MILLION.
THAT IS THAT BARELY PUTS A DENT IN WHAT WE NEED, BUT WE'RE GOING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK, AND SO THIS IS US TRYING TO EXPLORE SOME OPTIONS TO START TRYING TO MAKE SOME THINGS WORK.
SHE ANSWERED, MOST OF THEM. IS THIS THE ONLY? IS THIS THE ONLY COMPANY Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT LEASING FROM? IN MY CAREER WE'VE LOOKED AT OTHERS.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT THEIR PROGRAMS, AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO LEADING UP TO BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, IS, YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE FLAVOR OF THE COUNCIL FOR US TO GO AND LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS? WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
OKAY, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS, IS SPECIFICALLY LIKE WITH POLICE VEHICLES LIKE UP-FITTING THEM, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT COMPANY IS GOING TO DO, OR IS THIS GOING TO GET OUTSOURCED TO SOMEBODY ELSE? WE HAVE SO OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT USES A SPECIFIC UPFITTER, THEY CAN SEND THOSE DIRECTLY TO THAT UPFITTER OR THEY ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN UPFITTER THAT THEY CAN USE.
SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS WITH THAT, BUT THEY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THEIR OWN UPFITTER WE WOULD CHOOSE ON THIS, FOR THE DURANGO, SPECIFICALLY AT THE REQUEST OF THE CHIEF, TO HAVE THOSE SENT TO THE UPFITTER THAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH USING.
SO AS SOON AS IT LANDS ON THE GROUND, THEY CAN START THE UPFIT PROCESS, AND THAT'S WHAT, THEY USE DEFENDER UPFITTING WITH THE PD RIGHT NOW, AND THEY'RE VERY HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY DO AND SOME OF THE OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE IN THIS PACKAGE, THEY NEED SOME UPFITTING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT IN-HOUSE WHEN THEY GET HERE.
OKAY, AND WE HAVE THAT OPTION TO DO THAT AS WELL.
OTHER QUESTIONS. NO QUESTION, SIR.
SO WITH THE VEHICLES THAT WE HAVE, I MEAN.
I MEAN, DO WE DO WE ABSOLUTELY NEED EVERY VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE? I MEAN, ARE WE STRAPPED? ARE THERE ANY WAYS THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE ALL OF THESE VEHICLES? I THINK THAT THE IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED, A GAP THAT WE NEED TO FILL BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT'S COMING IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND THE NEXT TEN YEARS.
IF THAT'S ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, I THINK WE NEED TO EVALUATE ALL THAT.
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WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CATCH UP UNLESS WE HAVE A LARGE AMOUNT OF CASH AT BUDGET TIME.THAT'S GOING TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO COME INTO.
WELL, I ASK THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE STORY OF OUR LIFE IS CATCH UP.
YEAH. YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE WE'VE GOT TO CATCH UP WITH THE STREETS.
WE'VE GOT TO CATCH UP WITH SEWER LINES.
EXACTLY. NOW, WE'VE GOT TO CATCH UP WITH AUTOMOBILES.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.
YEAH. LUCKY US. SO YEAH, BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS SO AS I, AS I SIT AND LEARN ABOUT GOVERNMENT A COUPLE THINGS IN MY PERSONAL LIFE, I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE DEBT, BUT I REALIZE IN GOVERNMENT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED.
CORRECT. SO I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARM WRAPPED AROUND THE IDEA OF, OKAY AND I'VE WORKED IN SHARED SERVICES WITH SHARED SERVICES BEFORE WHERE, YOU KNOW, I HAD TO USE THEM TO LEASE VEHICLES, AND I'M TELLING YOU, I STILL DID NOT GET MY HEAD AROUND BECAUSE I WASN'T SEEING THAT MUCH ON MY P&L.
THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS IN THEORY ON THE LEASING PART OF IT.
I UNDERSTAND THE PART ABOUT THE SAVINGS ON THE MAINTENANCE AND YEAH, YOU'VE GOT IT ALL TIMED OUT, JUST RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHEN YOU WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF THE VEHICLE OR DO THOSE THINGS, AND THEN JUST YOU'VE GIVEN ME A LOT OF NUMBERS.
I THINK JUST BEING ABLE TO SEE THE VISUAL, OKAY, IF WE'RE GOING DOWN ONE ROUTE OF PAYING VERSUS THE OTHER ROUTE JUST TO KIND OF BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY VISUALIZE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING AND THIS KIND OF TEST THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING.
OKAY. YEAH, AND WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU AND BRING YOU SOME.
THE REFERENCES FOR D AND M, SOME OTHER CITIES THAT ARE USING THEM, THAT WOULD BE MORE COMPARABLE.
WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO PROBABLY NOT CONTACTING THE STATE AGENCIES, BUT I WANT TO FIND OUT.
THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? NO. I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING FROM COUNCILMAN SIMPSON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO STILL HAVE AN INTEREST, I THINK, ALL ACROSS THE COUNCIL FOR THIS.
WHAT I HEARD, MRS. STORRS SAY IS KIND OF A PILOT PROGRAM, AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT IT, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT SIX MONTHS REALLY BEFORE BUDGET.
THIS GIVES US A GOOD ADEQUATE TIME TO GO AHEAD AND PUSH A PILOT FORWARD LIKE THIS.
MAYBE FOR OUR COUNCIL, ALL WE MIGHT WANT WOULD JUST BE MAYBE TWO MORE VENDORS TO QUOTE THIS, SO THAT WE DIDN'T JUST JUMP OUT THERE BLINDLY, AND, I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION CARRIES A LOT OF WEIGHT, BUT ON THE VERIFICATION SIDE, MAYBE WE WOULD SEE A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL LEASING COMPANIES PUT FORWARD LIKE, OH, WELL, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST, YOU KNOW, FOR APPLES TO APPLES, AND THEN I DON'T KNOW.
I THINK IF YOU GOT HIM COMFORTABLE, I THINK THE REST OF US WOULD BE COMFORTABLE ON THE LEASE.
I SEE A LOT OF UPSIDE ON THE LEASING, AND THE REASON BEING IS BECAUSE I KNOW THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE, WE WERE TAKING POLICE VEHICLES APART TO FIX THE ONES THAT WE NEEDED TO KEEP RUNNING BECAUSE WE COULDN'T GET PARTS.
THAT'S TRUE, AND SO, YOU KNOW, VOLATILE MARKETS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON GLOBALLY MAY PUT US BACK IN THE SAME SITUATION WHERE WE MAY NOT HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED, AND SO, THE LEASE HAS A LOT OF UPSIDE, AND I THINK IT IT DOES START TO GET US OUT OF THE HOLE.
IF I COULD PAY CASH FOR A VEHICLE AND I HAD AN ASSET, NOT A LIABILITY, I'M WITH YOU.
I THINK THAT THE LEASE DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
EXACTLY, AND I AND TO JUST REITERATE, I THINK WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS JUST FILL THIS GAP NOW AND THEN DO, AND I KNOW THAT IN TALKING WITH THE MISTER CAIN AND HIS GROUP AND WE CAN TALK TO OTHERS AS WELL, THAT ANALYSIS CAN BE DONE WITHIN THAT SIX MONTH PERIOD EASILY TO SEE IF WE HAVE WHAT THE PATH FORWARD MIGHT BE AND WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS AS STAFF WOULD BE, NOT WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE LEASING COMPANY ARE, BUT WHAT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS OF STAFF WOULD BE AFTER WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE PACKAGES AND COMPARE THAT WITH WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE APPLE TO APPLE WITH BUDGET, WITH CASH UPFRONT TO DO THAT.
WOULD THE EXPECTATION BE, THOUGH, THAT WE COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH WITH A LEASING COMPANY HERE WITHIN THE SIX MONTHS TO FILL THIS GAP SO THAT WHEN BUDGET COMES AROUND, WE HAVE THE PILOT PROGRAM FLESHED OUT AND WE NOW KNOW, OH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD IMPLEMENT, AND A LOT OF THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY IS BECAUSE THOSE WINDOWS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT OPEN UP, BUT WE CAN'T BUY FROM DEALERSHIPS.
WE CAN ONLY BUY FROM GOVERNMENT APPROVED VENDORS SUCH AS CALDWELL, PLACES LIKE THAT.
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NOW THEY HAVE DIFFERENT BUYING POWER.LEASING COMPANIES DO. THEY CAN BUY FROM DEALERSHIPS.
THEY CAN BUY FROM GOVERNMENT. THEY CAN BUY FROM MULTIPLE PLACES.
WHEN THOSE WINDOWS OPEN, YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR ORDERS PLACED.
IF YOU DON'T, IT'LL BE NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER YEAR.
OKAY. YOU HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US TO MOVE FORWARD.
I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY ON THE TWO QUOTES ARE YOU TALKING FOR AFTER THE PILOT FOR IF WE DO A BIG OVERALL LEASE PROGRAM? BECAUSE THAT WOULD PROBABLY DELAY THIS INITIAL PUSH FOR THESE PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES BY MONTHS, I WOULD SAY TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH A COUPLE OF OTHERS.
I DON'T KNOW. WOULD WE DO THIS FOR ANYTHING ELSE? WOULD WE LOOK AT MORE THAN ONE VENDOR? I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE TIME CRUNCH ON IT, BUT PRINCIPALLY, IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO THIS FOR ONE THING, THEN HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE LOOKING AT SPENDING? TYPICALLY LEASES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL BIDDING PROCESS.
IT WOULD JUST IT WOULD JUST SLOW THE PROCESS AS FAR AS GETTING THESE VEHICLES.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST A VALUE BASED DECISION FOR COUNCIL.
OKAY. I'M OKAY MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE 27, LIKE YOU SAID.
JUST MY OPINION ON THESE AS A TEST.
IF THE WINDOW IS OPEN AND WE CAN GET THESE 27 VEHICLES AND WE'RE SPENDING LIKE, 292, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? OVER THREE YEARS? WE HAVE THAT EXTRA 5 MILLION OR THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT? OKAY. MAYBE WRONG NUMBER.
YEAH. MAYOR, I'M OKAY WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH THESE AS A TEST PROGRAM.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO DELAY THIS AND GET US FURTHER IN A HOLE.
IF WE'RE ALREADY 500 VEHICLES BEHIND, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE.
IF I COULD SHARE ONE OTHER THING.
FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, WE'VE LOOKED AT LEASING WITH SOME WITH VARIOUS COMPANIES OVER THE YEARS, AND I THINK THIS WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT I WAS MADE AWARE OF THAT REALLY SEEMED TO WORK AND TO FIT WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE HERE AT THE CITY, AND DONNIE COULD GO INTO MORE OF THE DIFFERENCES ON WHAT SOME OF THE LEASING COMPANIES OFFER, BUT I THINK THE OTHER THING IS THAT THIS GROUP IS, ALLOWS YOU TO ENTER INTO A MASTER LEASE AGREEMENT AND YOU CAN DO AS LITTLE OR AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, AND I REALLY LIKE THAT BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THE GROUPS WE TALKED TO, IT WAS MORE, WE WANT YOUR WHOLE FLEET OR WE WANT A WHOLE PORTION OF YOUR FLEET, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE FELT LIKE WE REALLY COULD DO A BETTER PILOT PROJECT WITH A LEASING COMPANY LIKE THIS, AND IF I'M MISSPEAKING DONNY, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, BUT THIS WE HAVE LOOKED AT LEASING FOR YEARS AND I'M WITH YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON.
I NEVER HAD AN APPETITE FOR LEASING.
WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH THE RISE IN THE PRICE OF VEHICLES, THE PRICE OF AUTO PARTS, AND THEN THE LACK OF ABILITY TO GET ANYTHING IN.
THAT KIND OF PUTS US AT A DIFFERENT POINT TO RELOOK AT EVERYTHING.
SO, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, I THINK WE'RE UNDER A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME CRUNCH TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, IF OUR AVERAGE AGE OF FLEETS I MEAN, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, BUT I THINK GOING AHEAD AND TESTING IT NOW, I WOULD NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOVING AHEAD AT THIS POINT.
OKAY. COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN YOU GOT ANYTHING ON IT? OKAY.
OR WOULD THAT HAVE A THERE WOULD NOT BE.
OKAY. SO IF WE DID THIS PILOT, WE DON'T HAVE A LONG TERM OBLIGATION, SOMETHING THAT WOULD TIE OUR HANDS FROM--AM I ANSWERING THAT CORRECTLY? YES. I CAN COME UP.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YEAH PLEASE COME FORWARD.
ED CAIN. WE ARE JUST TO MAKE YOU ALL FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE.
YOU'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO GO AHEAD AND DEAL WITH GOVERNMENT UNLESS YOU HAVE, GONE THROUGH, AND THE PREREQUISITES ABOUT PROCUREMENT AND DOING EVERYTHING APPROPRIATELY. D&M WAS SPECIFICALLY ASKED BY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO EXPLORE LEASING FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.
WE DID A SIX YEAR, RESEARCH, BROUGHT LEGISLATION TO THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WE WERE SINGLE-HANDEDLY AWARDED A CONTRACT FOR LEASING TO STATE AGENCIES. OUR FIRST CUSTOMER THROUGH THAT IS THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN VETTED.
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WE WERE GOING TO BE DOING THIS THROUGH A CO-OP CONTRACT CALLED BUY BOARD, WHICH ONCE AGAIN SAYS THAT WE'VE GOT STATED CONTRACTUAL ARRANGEMENTS AROUND THE PRICING.EVERYTHING MEETS ALL OF THE PROCUREMENT REQUIREMENTS THAT A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY WOULD NEED TO DO.
THE REASON WHY PEOPLE LEASE AND I PAY CASH FOR EVERYTHING THAT I CAN PAY CASH FOR.
THE REASON WHY PEOPLE LEASE IS BECAUSE OF CASH FLOW.
VEHICLES HAVE RISEN AND COST SO MUCH, AND I'M GOING TO DATE MYSELF, BUT, PICKUP TRUCK THAT WHEN I FIRST STARTED DOING THIS 35 YEARS AGO, THERE WAS $5,000 IS NOW CLOSE TO 50, AND GOVERNMENTS CANNOT WRITE A CHECK FOR $50,000 FOR EVERY VEHICLE AND CONTINUE TO DO IT.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE BRINGING THE MATH AND THE SCIENCE THAT CORPORATIONS HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS TO GOVERNMENT, AND IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO IT.
YOU JUST FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH THAT VEHICLE COSTS BRAND NEW.
WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE WORTH WHEN YOU GO TO GET RID OF IT, AND WE GO TO GET RID OF IT RIGHT AROUND THE TIME THAT THE MAINTENANCE COSTS REALLY START RISING AND BEFORE RESALE TANKS. SO BECAUSE YOU HAVE LOWER OPERATING COSTS, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE HIGH MAINTENANCE COSTS, LIKE DONNIE WAS TALKING ABOUT, WHEN YOU RUN A VEHICLE INTO THE GROUND AND YOU'RE RUNNING A POLICE CRUISER FOR EIGHT YEARS, WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REPLACED AFTER FOUR, YOU'RE JUST PUTTING MONEY INTO REBUILDING ENGINES, TRANSMISSIONS AND ALL THAT INTO A VEHICLE THAT'S WORTH NOTHING.
SO ALL WE'RE DOING IS JUST GETTING YOU TO GET ON A CYCLE PROGRAM SO THAT LAW IS ABLE TO KNOW EACH AND EVERY YEAR SHE CAN BRING YOU, THIS IS WHAT THE BUDGET'S GOING TO BE FOR THE VEHICLES. WE DO THIS FOR MUNICIPALITIES DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
WE'RE DOING THEM FOR STATE AGENCIES.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF CYCLING THE VEHICLES AND BEING ABLE TO GET THEM, AND WE CAN GET YOU THE VEHICLES THAT YOU NEED, AND SO DONNIE'S EXACTLY RIGHT, AND ANDREW BROUGHT IT UP. IF YOU DON'T PLACE YOUR ORDER RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE RAMS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET.
IT GOES TO RETAIL CONSUMERS FIRST, THEN IT GOES TO COMMERCIAL, THEN IT GOES TO GOVERNMENT, AND SO GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN THAT'S THE REASON WHY EVERYBODY PUTS IN ORDERS, AND THEN YOU SIT AROUND AND WAIT TO SEE IF THE MANUFACTURER IS GOING TO BUILD THEM, IF THEY CAN BUILD THEM AND SELL THEM TO A RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER WHERE THEY GET TO MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY, THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT THAT WAY, AND THEY'RE JUST GOING TO HANG ON TO YOUR ORDERS TO SEE, OKAY, IF WE'VE GOT A LITTLE EXTRA PRODUCTION CAPABILITY, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PRODUCE THAT VEHICLE, BUT THIS IS A WAY FOR YOU TO JUMP START THE PROGRAM.
IT ALLOWS YOU TO GO AHEAD AND GET MULTIPLE VEHICLES FOR THE COST OF JUST GOING OUT AND BUYING ONE.
SO THAT'S WHY MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING IT.
YOU'D BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BUY THREE DURANGO.
I MEAN THE COST TO PURCHASE ONE DURANGO YOU COULD LEASE THREE.
SO THAT'S THE CONCEPT, AND THEN YOU QUICKLY RENEW YOUR FLEET, GET THEM INTO A CYCLING PROGRAM, ELIMINATE THE MAINTENANCE COSTS, LOWER THE OPERATING COSTS, AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE DOING, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO FEEL COMFORTABLE ABOUT.
WE'RE WE'VE BEEN IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR 40 PLUS YEARS, AND WE WOULDN'T TO HAVE THE TEXT MASS CONTRACT IF WE WEREN'T COMPLETELY VETTED. YEAH, WELL, WE APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL INFO.
YEAH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
I WAS SITTING BACK THERE JUST WANTING TO TALK, SO THANK YOU.
I LOOK AT THIS AS POSSIBLY SETTING THE CITY AND FUTURE COUNCILS UP IN A GOOD POSITION OF WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT FACED WITH THIS, THAT IF WE KEEP THAT ON THE BUDGET, WE KIND OF KNOW OUR FIXED COST MAINTENANCE IS NOT NEARLY AN ISSUE.
SO FUTURE COUNCILS OR THE CITY IS JUST IN A BETTER POSITION WITH NEWER VEHICLES.
SO, YEAH, YOU SHOULD HAVE WHAT YOU NEED FROM US.
I THINK WE'RE GOOD. I THINK WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED, MAYOR.
THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. HOOPER. THANK YOU. ITEM SEVEN, C IS OUR 2425 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET
[7.C. 2024/2025 Fiscal Year Budget Policy]
POLICY. MISS LAURA STORRS.SO IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR WE GET TO START TALKING ABOUT BUDGET AGAIN.
SO I KNOW EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SO IT COMES AROUND VERY QUICKLY, AND SO JUST WANTED TO KIND OF LEAD OFF BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO BE STARTING ON BUDGET INTERNALLY FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE. PROBABLY.
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I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES WE'RE DOING THINGS, WE'VE DONE THINGS A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS, ESPECIALLY THIS PAST YEAR AS WE HAD YOU ALL COMING ON INTO NEW POSITIONS AND WE WERE TRYING TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED AND SAY, OKAY, WE FORMED A BUDGET AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS? SO MAYBE THIS YEAR WE'RE WANTING TO KIND OF GET YOUR THOUGHTS AHEAD OF TIME.SO THE FIRST THING IS THE TIMING OF YOUR ADOPTION OF YOUR BUDGET AND YOUR TAX RATE.
SO AS YOU GUYS ALL REMEMBER, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT.
OR IF YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT CALLING AN ELECTION FOR A VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S THIS IS WAY EARLY ON BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD REALLY HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT MIGHT EVEN SHAPE THAT, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME KEY DATES.
SO THERE'S TWO CALENDARS AT PLAY.
ONE WOULD BE TO ACCOMMODATE AN ELECTION.
THAT MEANS EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, INCLUDING ALL OF THE VARIOUS READINGS OF THE BUDGET AND THE TAX RATE THAT WE WENT THROUGH IN THE COUNCIL MEETINGS, WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE BEFORE AUGUST 19TH.
SO THAT PUSHES EVERYTHING BACK FROM WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
SO THAT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT ALMOST A MONTH AND A HALF LONGER.
SO THINGS TO BE THINKING ABOUT AND I CAN BUILD OUT THE CALENDAR EITHER WAY.
WHEN THE STATE CHANGED THE LAW RELATED TO THE AUTOMATIC ELECTION, IF YOU GO OVER THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS I'LL ALWAYS JUST DO BUDGET, IN TIME FOR A COUNCIL TO CALL AN ELECTION, BUT AS WE GOT INTO IT LAST YEAR, I THINK YOU GUYS ALL REALIZED, LIKE WE NEEDED AS MUCH TIME AS WE COULD GET TO GET THROUGH THE BUDGET AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
SO WE COULD CERTAINLY FORMULATE THAT.
EITHER WAY, THE OTHER THING I WANTED YOU ALL TO START THINKING ABOUT IS WE I THINK WE DID A TOTAL OF SEVEN FULL DAYS OF BUDGET WORKSHOPS LAST YEAR. HOPEFULLY THEY WERE PRODUCTIVE FOR YOU ALL.
I'M SURE YOU ALL DID AS WELL, BUT THINGS TO THINK ABOUT THIS NEXT YEAR.
DO WE DO WE WANT TO TRY TO PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER SEVEN DAYS KIND OF SPREAD OUT OVER TIME? DO WE WANT TO TRY TO CONSOLIDATE THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT, STILL THINKING, YOU KNOW, BROADCASTING THAT TO THE PUBLIC? I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD THING FROM EVERYBODY'S VIEWPOINT.
THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD EVERY DEPARTMENT COME UP AND GIVE BRIEF UPDATES ABOUT BUDGETS.
SO ANOTHER THING, JUST IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THAT, I WOULD CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT, AND THEN WE CAN START TALKING ABOUT IF THERE'S CERTAIN, HIGHER PRIORITIES THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE US TO FOCUS ON.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ONE THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO BE BRINGING TO YOU GUYS.
THIS DURING BUDGET IS DISCUSSION ABOUT LEASING OPTIONS RELATED TO THE FLEET.
WE DO KNOW THERE'S SOME REALLY BIG ITEMS OUT THERE THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO DISCUSS.
I'M PLANNING TO I'VE ALMOST GOT IT TOGETHER.
SO I WAS THINKING I COULD EITHER, SEND IT OUT TO ALL OF YOU GUYS, POSTED ON THE ON THE FORUM PAGE OR PRESENT IT HERE AS KIND OF THIS IS THE RECAP OF WHAT WE DID IN THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY DIRECTION ON, YOU KNOW, HEY, I KNOW ONE THING WE TALKED ABOUT WAS LET'S GO AHEAD AND ADJUST THE DRAINAGE RATES, ALL AT ONCE, YOU KNOW, TO GET AS MUCH DONE AS WE CAN.
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SO MAYBE WE'RE NOT DOING SMALL INCREMENTAL ONES ACROSS TIME.ONE OTHER THING, YOU KNOW, WE DID WITH THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, YOU ALL CHOSE TO LOWER THE OPERATING AND MAINTENANCE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY TAX RATE TO DO A DEBT ISSUANCE THAT'S COMING UP HERE IN MARCH.
WE HAVE IT ADVERTISED RIGHT NOW TO HELP FUND SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR STREETS.
YOU KNOW, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT PORTION, THAT DEBT SERVICE RATE IS GOING TO ROLL ONTO YOUR TAX RATE THIS NEXT YEAR? IT'LL BE ON THE I&S SIDE, BUT IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL WANT TO YOU KNOW, US TO BUILD OUT ANOTHER YEAR OF A OF A PLAN LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE BIG NEEDS COMING UP THE HOLLYWOOD ROAD WASTEWATER PLANT.
WE ALL KNOW THAT'S A BIG PROJECT COMING UP.
WE HAVE MEET AND CONFER WITH BOTH OF OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
THAT'S STARTING UP VERY QUICKLY.
SO WE MAY HAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT THAT'S NEEDING TO COME FORWARD ON BUDGET.
SO, IT'S NEVER TOO EARLY TO START KIND OF THINKING THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS. SO I THINK MY BIGGEST, MAYBE MY FEEDBACK I WOULD APPRECIATE FROM YOU GUYS IS, AGAIN, WE WANT YOUR INPUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT SO WE CAN KIND OF BUILD THE BUDGET TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS.
OF COURSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOUR PILLARS THAT YOU PUT IN PLACE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO KIND OF GET A FEEL FROM WHAT YOU ALL ARE THINKING FROM MAYBE RATE STANDPOINT, PROPERTY TAX STANDPOINT, THOSE THINGS.
SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FORMULATING A BUDGET THAT WAY.
SO AS I PUT TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTS RELATED TO THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET AND THEN THINGS TO THINK ABOUT FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, WOULD YOU ALL LIKE ME TO PRESENT IT AT AN UPCOMING MEETING FOR, YOU KNOW, US TO HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION ABOUT, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO POST IT ON THE FORUM? Y'ALL CAN START KIND OF DISCUSSING THAT WAY.
OR DO YOU WANT ME JUST TO SEND IT TO YOU GUYS AND THEN INDIVIDUALLY YOU CAN GIVE ME FEEDBACK ON IT.
WHAT ARE Y'ALL'S PREFERENCE? I LIKE THE FORUM FORUM IDEA FOR ME.
YOU LIKE MESSAGE BOARD? YEAH. I KIND OF LIKE YOU SENDING IT TO ME, AND THAT WAY I CAN ASK QUESTIONS.
ABSOLUTELY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE FINE.
JUST A COUPLE LOGISTICAL THINGS.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO GET INTO THIS TODAY, BUT NUMBER OF DAYS, TIME AND SCHEDULE.
BOY, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE BETTER IF WE COULD GET THAT MAPPED OUT AS FAR IN ADVANCE.
YES, I AGREE, I KNOW YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO THINK ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE KIND OF GOING AND BLOWING AND KIND OF COVERING THINGS AND WE WERE MIXING THINGS UP AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW? BOY NUMBER ONE, IT'D BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE A REAL GOOD CONCRETE SCHEDULE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT EACH DAY AND MAYBE DISCIPLINE OURSELVES TO A TIME LIMIT IN EACH AREA. OKAY, BECAUSE I DID NOTICE THE LAST TIME, LIKE, YOU WOULD HAVE STAFF PEOPLE THAT SAID, WE'RE GOING TO HIT YOUR BUDGET AT 2:00, AND THEN TOM ASKED ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THEM SITTING AROUND AND ALL THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW, JUST THOSE ARE SOME LOGISTICAL THINGS THAT MIGHT BE WORTH CONSIDERING, BUT, AND THEN I HAD MENTIONED TO THE CITY MANAGER ONE THING, AND HOPEFULLY NOW WE CAN GET WORKING ON IT WHILE THERE'S ENOUGH TIME IS, WELL, THAT BUDGET IS REALLY THICK.
VERY BRIEFLY ON ON HOW WE'RE DOING ON THE VARIOUS REVENUE SOURCES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
I TALKED WITH THE I THINK YOU CAN TALK WITH ANDREW KIND OF ABOUT THE THE DETAILS ON THAT, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, STARTING AT A HIGH LEVEL BEFORE WE BEGIN TO DIG IN, THEY MAY REVEAL SOME THINGS, AND THERE WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT I SUGGESTED THEM ON HIM THAT WE COULD KIND OF MONITOR.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY OTHER SUGGESTION KIND OF RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE I KNOW IT WOULD MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT I THINK PUTTING SOME TYPE OF SUMMARY TOGETHER WHERE I'VE GOT A FOUR PAGE SUMMARY AND I'VE GOT A VERY GOOD FEELING, I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE BY LOOKING AT THAT ON THE REVENUE SIDE, THE EXPENSE SIDE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, CATEGORY, EXPENSES, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD AT THIS TIME.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE BRING A QUARTERLY BUDGET UPDATE TO YOU ALL.
IT'S MORE SELECTIVE IN THE INFORMATION.
WE FOCUS HEAVILY ON GENERAL FUND AND THEN KIND OF HIGH LEVEL WATER AND SEWER AND DRAINAGE, BUT WE COULD EXPAND THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE MAYBE TO GET YOU GUYS A BETTER GRASP ON LIKE AN EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE TALK A LOT ABOUT SALES TAX, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAX, THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE GIVING YOU A BETTER LOOK, YOU KNOW, HOW ALL REVENUES ARE PERFORMING, YOU KNOW, IN TOTAL AND THEN EXPENSES AS WELL.
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ABSOLUTELY, AND TO YOUR POINT, LOGISTICS WORK A LOT BETTER IF WE KIND OF HAVE A FEEL FOR MAYBE HOW MUCH TIME Y'ALL ARE WANTING TO SPEND IN BUDGET WORKSHOPS.SO, YOU KNOW, HISTORICALLY WE'VE DONE ABOUT 3 TO 4 DAYS.
YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE DID ABOUT SEVEN DAYS, AND WE CAN DO SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S MAINLY WHAT YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE YOU CAN TOLERATE AND BE PRODUCTIVE IN, GETTING A GOOD GRASP ON THAT BUDGET, AND ALSO JUST BEING CONSCIOUS OF EVERYONE'S TIME BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S YOU ALL ARE VERY BUSY AND MAKING SURE THAT WE GET THIS ON YOUR CALENDARS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYONE.
YOU SAID YOU'D BE HAVING DEPARTMENTS COMING IN PRETTY SOON FOR BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, CORRECT? SO, YES, WE DO A BIG BUDGET KICKOFF WITH SOME OF THE PRIORITIES AND INITIATIVES WE KNOW ARE PLANNING TO GO ON, WHICH IS WHERE WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS ON WHAT Y'ALL ARE HOPING TO SEE IN A BUDGET, SO WE CAN SHARE THAT WITH THEM, AND THEN THEY WILL START WORKING ON THEIR OPERATING BUDGETS.
YEAH, AND WE'LL BE TRAINING THEM ON, YOU KNOW, SOFTWARE, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE MAYBE US JUST TO SIT IN.
YES. I MEAN, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY FACILITATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YEAH. THAT'S GREAT FOR YOU, TOM.
YES. NOT SAYING I WANT TO INTERJECT ANYTHING, OKAY, BUT I CAN.
I JUST WANT TO BE THERE TO HEAR HOW THIS DISCUSSION GOES TO WHERE I HAVE A BETTER CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF WHERE THIS IDEA CAME FROM, HOW WE GOT I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THERE, BECAUSE WHEN WE GET INTO BUDGET DISCUSSIONS, WE'RE SEEING THE 30,000 FOOT VIEW.
IT'S A GREAT POINT. I'D LIKE TO GET DOWN TO LIKE 500 FOOT VIEW.
OKAY, SO I HAVE I HAVE A SIMILAR NOTE HERE BUT LIKE A DIFFERENT APPROACH.
SURE. SO RATHER THAN US SITTING IN WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR LIKE MAYBE HEARING, WELL, THIS ISN'T MY FAVORITE IDEA, BUT IT'S AN IDEA AND ALL OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION THAT COULD GO ON, I WOULD WANT TO GET ALTERNATIVE CREATIVE IDEAS DISCLOSED TO COUNCIL.
OKAY, SO IN THE WAY IN WHICH YOU TOOK 30 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND YOU BOILED THEM DOWN TO SAY, WELL, HERE'S REALLY OUR TEN BIG MOVERS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY TRYING TO SIT IN ON ALL 30, BUT THEN OUT OF THESE TEN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE 3 OR 4 PRETTY LARGE IDEAS LIKE FLEET MAY COME IN AND SAY, HEY, MY IDEA IS WE GO TO NOTHING BUT LEASES ALL THE WAY ACROSS EXCEPT FOR THESE REAL HEAVY, PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
WELL, THAT'S A PRETTY, BIG CREATIVE CHANGE TO THE OVERALL BUDGET.
RIGHT. SO THOSE WOULD BE THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE BROUGHT TO COUNCIL INDEPENDENTLY.
I WOULD PREFER THE INDEPENDENT, COMMUNICATION OVER MESSAGE BOARD ON THE FRONT END.
OKAY. I THINK ONCE WE DID HAVE KIND OF A ROAD MAP, WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING.
I THINK IT'S FINE TO HAVE THE MESSAGE BOARD DISCUSSIONS.
OKAY. I WOULD HOPE TO AVOID SOME OF THE, I WOULD HOPE TO AVOID SOME OF THE THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT MAY TAKE PLACE, AND ONE OF US JUST STATING SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ACCURATE.
OKAY. LIKE WHAT? WE THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT WE HAD AND IT TURNS OUT WE DON'T, RIGHT.
I'VE GOT ONE. ONE OTHER THING I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WHAT AND I THINK MAYBE THIS COULD BE A TIME SAVER BUT BENEFICIAL AS WELL, BECAUSE WHAT I'M GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR, WHAT I KIND OF LOOK FOR THIS YEAR WHEN I AGAIN, GOING BACK TO LOOKING AT THE TRENDS.
YES, BUT ONE THING THAT REALLY CATCHES MY ATTENTION IS WHEN THERE ARE VARIANCES.
IF WE BUDGETED 5 MILLION THIS YEAR AND WE'RE BUDGETING 6 MILLION NEXT YEAR, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE PERCENTAGES THAT ARE UP 5%, 10%, 15% ARE EVEN DOWN. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THINGS THAT WHEN THE SPENDING IS PRETTY STEADY, THAT KIND OF SAY, OKAY, I UNDERSTAND IT'S KIND OF ON A STEADY FLOW.
IT'S KIND OF BEEN TRENDING THAT WAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE BEING PREPARED IN ADVANCE BECAUSE I KNOW SOMETIMES WE WOULD ASK ABOUT THOSE VARIANCES AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME GOING AND KIND OF FIGURING OUT WHAT THOSE WERE BUT EVEN IN THE BUDGET BOOK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT SAVE A WHOLE LOT OF TIME SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND THE TIME EITHER ANSWERING THE QUESTION, ASKING THE QUESTION DURING IT, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT JUST HAVE THAT VARIANCES ON THERE.
SO WE CAN SAY, WELL, WHY ARE WE WHY HAS THIS SPENDING DOWN? WHY IS IT UP? IT MAY HELP EXPEDITE SOME TIME THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DISCUSS AND RESEARCH DURING THAT DAY, BECAUSE I JUST REMEMBER THAT SEEMED TO HAPPEN A COUPLE OF TIMES WHEN WE WERE PROBABLY ADDED TO OUR TIME THAT WE COULD PROBABLY EXPEDITE THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.
ABSOLUTELY. I'LL HOLD YOUR THOUGHT.
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SO THE THOUGHT WOULD BE, WELL, YOU'VE GOT THESE CREATIVE IDEAS AND THESE ARE LARGE CHANGES, INDIVIDUALLY WITH, WITH EACH STAFF OR I MEAN, WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, WE COULD HEAR THOSE PRIOR TO GETTING TO A WORKSHOP.SOMETIMES IT GETS PRESENTED AT WORKSHOP, LIKE I HAVE HEARD THIS, BUT THESE ARE THE CHANGES.
SO I JUST WANT TO GO BACK TO YOU REAL QUICK AND SEE IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT OR IF OKAY, AND SO I'M ALSO THINKING MAYBE AND I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE ASKING, BUT POSSIBLY IT MIGHT BE GOOD FOR YOU GUYS TO HEAR WHAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING TO THE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL. ON HOW THEY SHOULD GO FORWARD AND WORK ON THEIR BUDGETS.
SO THEN YOU GUYS KIND OF KNOW WHAT WE HAVE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE ASKED THEM TO GO DO FROM OUR STANDPOINT, AND THEN AS THEY START BRINGING IDEAS BACK, YOU KNOW, AND WE START SAYING, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THIS MIGHT BE FEASIBLE TO GO FORWARD.
SO IF IT, YOU KNOW, SPARKED AS SOME INTEREST THAT Y'ALL COULD SAY, WELL WAIT A SECOND.
OKAY, GREAT, AND SO, MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT, OR DON, WERE YOU GOING TO SAY SOMETHING? I'M SORRY. I MEAN, IT'S OKAY, I CAN ADD I MEAN, WELL, GO AHEAD.
YOU GO FIRST. WELL, I WOULD JUST TACK ON TO I THINK THIS IS WHAT LES WAS GETTING AT, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER IN THE BINDER, WE'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'D GO THROUGH EACH DEAL IF WE CAN AGREE ON, LIKE A PERCENTAGE CHANGE UP OR DOWN, SURE TO SAY IF THERE IS THAT, CAN THERE BE A LITTLE BULLET POINT OF AN EXPLANATION OF WHY? BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, WE ALWAYS ASK THOSE QUESTIONS LIKE, AND IT WOULD BE WE'D COMB THROUGH THAT AND GO, DID YOU SEE THIS? I KNOW, WHY IS THIS? SO IF WE COULD I THINK THAT'S A IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING? WELL, YEAH, WE CAN SAY MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WOULD BE 3%, 5% WHATEVER.
YEAH, MAYBE. I MEAN SOMETIMES YOU GET INTO SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNTS.
YOU KNOW, THAT REFERENCES ALL OF THAT.
LET US WORK THROUGH THE LOGISTICS ON THAT, AND I THINK WE CAN WORK TO GET YOU GUYS SOME EXPLANATIONS UP FRONT ABOUT SOME OF THOSE LARGER VARIANCES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO THEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO NECESSARILY DISCUSS UNLESS YOU ALL WANT TO GO ON FURTHER.
I MEAN I WOULD THINK AT LEAST FIVE DAYS AND MAYBE GO FROM THERE IF WE STREAMLINE IT AND WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE EXPLANATIONS AHEAD, AND AT LEAST THERE'S SOME LEARNING THAT'S HAPPENED SINCE LAST TIME.
YOU KNOW, THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER GRASP.
YES, TO SEE WHAT IT IS. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA HOW MANY DAYS WE THINK OR WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE THING WE MIGHT DO, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE BUDGET BOOK PREPARATION BEGINS, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF WORK INTO IT.
IT MIGHT JUST BE INTERESTING GETTING SOME FEEDBACK.
ARE THERE SOME THINGS THAT WE REALLY DON'T THINK WE NEED IN THAT? I MEAN, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT, BUT I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO, BUT I MEAN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT WE SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I NEED THAT SUMMARY IN THERE, AND YEAH, MAYBE ALL FIVE OF US WON'T AGREE ON IT, BUT IT MIGHT JUST BE SOMETHING THAT, AGAIN, WOULD SAVE YOU TIME, MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, MAKE EFFICIENT USE OF OUR TIME AS WELL TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT DO WE REALLY NEED IN THERE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT TO REVIEW? OKAY. IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
COUNCILMAN CRAFT ANYTHING ON YOUR END? NOPE. CAN I THROW OUT SOME SPECIFICS THAT I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL? OR. YOU DON'T WANT THOSE? OH, NO, I'M ALL EARS, AND THEN YOU GUYS, I WOULD LOVE SOME FEEDBACK IF YOU'RE LIKE, YEAH, NO, IT'S A BAD IDEA.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT. SO, 1 MILLION DEDUCTION ROUGHLY, OFF OF OUR BUDGET.
RIGHT. THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO PAY A MILLION IN DEBT SERVICE.
NO, IT WASN'T. IT WAS LESS THAN A CENT.
4 MILLION. MIGHT BE 14 MILLION.
YOU KNOW THIS NEXT GO AROUND OR WHATEVER.
KEEPING THAT IN THERE, BUILDING THAT IN THE BUDGET FOR AN ONGOING STREETS, ALLOCATION, TRYING TO GET TO MORE STREET REPAIR AND MORE REPLACEMENT, AND DOING THAT CONTINUOUSLY, TRYING TO TRYING TO CONTINUALLY WORK THAT IN OVER THE YEARS SO THAT IT COMES BACK AROUND AND FUTURE COUNCILS THANK US. NO TAX INCREASE OTHER THAN THE 3.5%, AND THEN PULLING THAT BACK DOWN TO HAVE THAT MONEY ONCE AGAIN ALLOCATED FOR THAT
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DEBT SERVICE ON THE I&S SIDE.ANYTHING ON THAT GENTLEMEN? NOT SAYING YOU GOT TO AGREE NOW.
I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR YOU TO HEAR IT, THAT THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE WE WERE.
I THINK WE'RE STILL SITTING HERE.
I DON'T FIND THIS YEAR TO BE A GOOD YEAR FOR US TO TRY TO GO AND PUT FORWARD A PROPOSITION WITH AN ELECTION COMING, AND THAT WILL CERTAINLY, CHANGE UP WHAT TIMING LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU GET ALMOST A MONTH AND A HALF LONGER TO WORK THROUGH YOUR APPROVALS OF YOUR BUDGET AND YOUR PROPERTY TAX RATE.
SO, WE ARE CERTAINLY GOOD EITHER WAY.
JUST WHATEVER YOU GUYS DIRECT US ON, I THINK IT'D BE GREAT FOR US TO SEE IN THIS BUDGET PROCESS HOW WE CAN START LOOKING AT, OKAY, THESE ARE OUR NEEDS AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CUT A SERVICE OR THESE ARE OUR NEEDS.
WE CAN GET THERE BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE NOW.
WE NEED, NO DRAINAGE INCREASE, LEAVING THAT PRETTY MUCH STATIC FOR HOPEFULLY WHAT WOULD BE FOUR MORE YEARS? I'D LIKE TO SEE NO WATER AND SEWER INCREASE.
JUST LOOKING AT REVENUES FROM ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE AND ALL OF THAT, AND WHEN I SAY NO INCREASE, I THINK I'D SAFELY SAY THAT ON A SMALL AVERAGE USE. SO OUR TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL USER.
OKAY. NOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING TO START ADDRESSING THE HOLLYWOOD, WASTEWATER PLANTS, DO YOU HAVE DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON THAT? BECAUSE THAT COULD BE I DO.
I WAS NOT GOING TO INCLUDE THAT AS A, AS A FACTOR IN THIS BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A LARGE ITEM.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN ANY OTHER IF IT WASN'T IN AN ENTERPRISE FUND, IT WOULD BE A PROPOSITION, AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, AND SO IT WOULD BE, HEY, IF YOU WANT TO FLUSH THE TOILETS, VOTE YES.
IF YOU DON'T CARE IF WE HAVE TOILETS, IT'S FINE TO VOTE NO.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE GET TO ACCOUNT FOR.
THIS IS EITHER SOMETHING WE'RE FIXING OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE.
OKAY. YEAH. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITHOUT THAT BUILT IN.
OKAY. PROJECTED SALES TAX FLAT.
I THINK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW WE'VE KIND OF LIKE TO BUMP IT UP, BUT I THINK GOING INTO IT THIS FAR OUT, LET'S JUST LOOK AT IT IN A NEGATIVE, PESSIMISTIC WAY AND LET'S SAY, MAN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE REVENUE.
YOU HAVE. COME OVER TO MY SIDE.
[INAUDIBLE] HE WANTS TO SEE THE EXTRA ON THE BACK SIDE I KNOW, I UNDERSTAND.
YES OKAY. LAST ONE WAS 20% COLA.
TRY TO GET THAT BUDGETED IN BECAUSE WE WERE 30.
THIS YEAR WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO 50.
OKAY, AND, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN'T DO THAT.
CAN WE DO A TEN AND A TEN OR IS THIS OUR LAST YEAR? YOU HAVE TWO MORE YEARS.
YOU HAVE THIS BUDGET CYCLE AND THE NEXT ONE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES ON IT.
WE COULD GET TO THE 50 THOUGH EITHER WITH 20 OR 10 AND TEN.
OH DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YEAH. YOU CAN'T GO WITH 30, 40, 50.
OKAY. WELL THEN I GUESS I'D LIKE TO SEE THE 20% IN THERE.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO IT HERE TODAY.
IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS FEEDBACK ON ANY OF THAT, I WOULD CERTAINLY BE OPEN TO IT.
WHAT I WILL DO THEN AND MAYBE, TO MAYOR'S POINT, MAYBE LET ME GET THIS DOCUMENT PUT TOGETHER AND IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO OUTLINE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE CURRENT YEAR BUDGET AND THEN THINGS TO THINK ABOUT WHICH MAYOR YOU HIT SOME OF THE BIGGEST, MAIN POINTS IN THE BUDGET, JUST IN WHAT YOU COVERED JUST NOW, AND I CAN GET THAT OUT TO EACH ONE OF YOU ALL, AND THEN YOU COULD INDIVIDUALLY GIVE ANDREW AND I SOME FEEDBACK OR JUST ANDREW FEEDBACK.
WE CAN KIND OF COMPILE IT, MAYBE GET HERE'S WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE GROUP.
ONCE YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, THEN WE COULD GET IT POSTED OUT ON THE MESSAGE BOARD, YOU KNOW, AND THEN Y'ALL CAN TALK FROM THERE, BUT THAT WAY YOU KIND OF HAVE FREE REIN TO VET OUT SOME IDEAS, MAYBE INDIVIDUALLY WITH ANDREW AND I, BEFORE IT STARTS GOING TO THE BIGGER GROUP, IF THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE.
OKAY. ANYTHING FURTHER FOR MRS. STORRS? THIS IS EXCELLENT.
THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH I APPRECIATE IT.
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THAT IS ITEM 7C, WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO A QUICK UPDATE ON 7D FROM COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN OUR CVB.[7.D. Updates from Councilmembers serving on outside boards and commissions]
WELL YOU KNOW I'M NEVER QUICK.MAN. I MOVE AT ONE SPEED AND IT'S SORT OF SLOW.
STATEMENT HERE, SO I GOT FIVE POINTS I WANT TO BRING UP, SINCE THE BEGINNING OF FISCAL YEAR, THE ACVB BOARD HAS OVERSEEN THE FINANCIAL CHANGES WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION.
THIS INCLUDES CHANGING OVER FROM A PROJECTED BUDGET TO A CASH ON HAND BUDGET ON OCTOBER 1ST, 2023, AND TAKING OVER THEIR OWN PAYROLL ON JANUARY 1ST.
THIS YEAR, RESERVES HAVE BEEN MOVED INTO SEPARATE ACCOUNTS, AND THEY ARE PREPARING FOR THE, FOR THE SPONSORSHIP INCOME FROM THE ROUTE 66 FESTIVAL TO GO IN TO THEIR OWN ACCOUNT TO PAY FOR NON-HOT TAX APPROPRIATE ITEMS. FINANCIAL REPORTS HAVE BEEN STRONG.
BULLET POINT NUMBER TWO, THE 2024 ROUTE 66 FESTIVAL PLANNING IS UNDERWAY, AND THE CVB STAFF HAS BEGUN MEETING WITH ALL APPROPRIATE CITY DEPARTMENTS AND TOURISM PARTNERS TO ENSURE EVERYTHING IS PLANNED WELL.
THE CVB WILL AGAIN PARTNER WITH OTHER COUNTIES ON THE TEXAS ROUTE 66 FOR THE YEAR.
FESTIVITIES. THIRD POINT THE CVB FILM COMMISSION RECEIVED A TEXAS MUSIC FRIENDLY DESIGNATION IN NOVEMBER.
THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION ON UPCOMING FORMATION OF A FOUNDATION THROUGH THE CVB 501C3.
KASHION WILL BE GIVING US AN UPDATE ON THIS ITEM IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
THE CVB STAFF HAS SEEN SOME CHANGES THIS YEAR, WITH LONG TIME EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR MARY RAMIREZ RETIRING. A NEW EXECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR HAS BEEN HIRED ALEXIS GUNTER, AND THE OPEN POSITION FOR A TOURISM COORDINATOR HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH A SERVICING COORDINATOR, LUTZ AGUILAR.
LUTZ IS SERVICING SUPPORT FOR BOTH TOURISM AND CONVENTION SLASH GROUP SALES.
WE HAVE TWO, EMPLOYEES HERE FROM THE CVB.
IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
WELL, I THINK THAT WAS A GREAT UPDATE, SIR, AND, I'LL ASK IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR EITHER OF OUR TWO GUESTS HERE TODAY, I DO NOT. I'M GOOD.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO CONSENT AGENDA, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A RECESS AND COME BACK AND DO NON CONSENT.
ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PULL OFF 8X.
[8. Consent Items]
YEAH. SO 8X I'M GOING TO REMOVE BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT IS NOT READY.WE DID NOT HAVE ALL OF OUR ANSWERS AND FROM OUR QUESTIONS AND, A CONTRACT, I BELIEVE WE WERE STILL WAITING ON, SO I WOULD ASK IF ANY OTHER COUNCIL HAS ANYTHING THAT THEY NEED PULLED OFF. OTHERWISE, THEN I THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS CONSENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GUYS ARE, NEEDING ON CONSENT? NO, SIR.
OKAY, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.
AS STATED. ALL ITEMS, BUT ITEM X SECOND.
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OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION FROM PLACE THREE.ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? YES, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.
YES, SIR. I JUST WANT TO GO BACK ON 7E IF THERE WERE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. OH, I SKIPPED IT, DIDN'T I? YES, SIR. YEAH.
MR. FREEMAN, I DID SKIP ITEM 7E SO ITEM PASSES ON ON CONSENT AND THEN TO GO BACK TO CATCH ITEM 7E.
THANK YOU. DO I HAVE ANY FUTURE REQUESTS FROM COUNCIL? NO. OKAY. ITEM SEVEN IS COMPLETE.
LET'S TAKE A TEN MINUTE RECESS.
COME BACK AND WE'LL TAKE UP ALL OF OUR, NON CONSENT.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL OURSELVES BACK INTO SESSION.
LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT, I GUESS, SEVEN ITEMS HERE TO GO THROUGH A NON CONSENT.
SO WE WILL GO AHEAD AND START WITH ITEM 9A.
[9.A. CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8116]
MRS. LAURA STORRS.OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS ITEM IS THE FIRST READING AND CONSIDERATION OF AN ORDINANCE ADOPTING BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
NOW, THESE ARE BUDGET AMENDMENTS RELATED TO LAST FISCAL YEAR.
SO THE FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2023, AND THE REASON WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU NOW IS WE HAVE PRETTY MUCH COMPLETED AUDITED STATEMENTS, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS A STEP THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF LEGALLY ADOPTED BUDGETS, AND IF THOSE LEGALLY ADOPTED BUDGETS, IF THE AMOUNT THAT WE SPEND EXCEEDS THE AMOUNT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED, WE HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT RELATED TO IT.
I WILL TELL YOU OF YOUR YOUR OF THE MAIN CITY DEPARTMENTS OR THE MAIN CITY FUNDS.
THE GENERAL FUND IS A LEGALLY ADOPTED BUDGET, BUT YOUR OTHER ONES ARE NOT.
AIRPORT IS NOT. DRAINAGE IS NOT.
SO, WE DID NOT NEED TO BRING FORWARD A GENERAL FUND AMENDMENT THIS YEAR.
THEY WERE WE WERE UNDER BUDGET IN TOTAL BY EXPENSE, AND WE WERE OVER BUDGET ON REVENUES.
SO WE COLLECTED MORE REVENUE THAN ANTICIPATED, AND WE'LL BE TALKING MORE ABOUT THAT, WITH A COUPLE OF YOU GUYS NEXT WEEK DURING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING OVER THE AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
SO ON THIS ITEM, HERE WE GO REAL QUICK.
SO WE HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT, FUNDS THAT HAVE TO HAVE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
WE OVERSPENT THAT BUDGET BY 15,000, AND IT WAS ALL ON TRAINING FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE NEED TO DO AN AMENDMENT ON IT.
ON YOUR COMPENSATED ABSENCES FUND.
WE IN THAT FUND CAN FLUCTUATE FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT JUST DEPENDING ON HOW MANY PEOPLE.
USUALLY THE BIGGEST PAYOUTS ARE RELATED TO RETIREMENTS, THOSE TYPE THINGS, MORE TENURED PEOPLE, AND SO WE DID SPEND WE PAID OUT MORE THAN ANTICIPATED, AND SO WE NEED TO AMEND THAT BUDGET BY 800,000.
THEN THE LAST THREE ARE YOUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
SO THREE OF YOUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS NEED BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
THOSE ARE LEGALLY ADOPTED BUDGETS.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE COLONIES PID.
WE NEED TO AMEND THE EXPENSE BUDGET BY 260,000.
WE DID A DEBT ISSUANCE, THIS PAST YEAR TO PAY OUT THE BULK OF IT, AND THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT NEEDED TO BE PAID OUT, AND THE BOARD DECIDED TO, PAY IT OUT WITH SOME EXCESS RESERVES, AND SO THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THEIR MINIMUM RESERVES, BUT WE DO NEED TO AMEND THAT BUDGET FOR THAT ADDITIONAL AMOUNT PAID OUT.
THEN ON THE VINEYARDS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.
THIS IS ACTUALLY AMENDING THEIR REVENUE BUDGET.
SO THEY COLLECTED ABOUT 5000 LESS THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED, AND SO WE NEED TO BRING THAT REVENUE BUDGET IN LINE WITH WHAT THOSE ASSESSMENTS CAME IN AT, AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS YOUR HERITAGE HILLS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, AND THAT ONE IS ON THE EXPENSE SIDE.
WE PAID OUT MORE FOR PARK AMENITIES THAN WHAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED BY 15,000.
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THEY DID HAVE EXCESS RESERVES IN THAT COULD FUND THAT, AND SO THOSE ARE YOUR RECOMMENDED BUDGET AMENDMENTS.THIS TAKES TWO READINGS BECAUSE IT'S DONE THROUGH AN ORDINANCE.
SO WE HAVE TODAY AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SECOND READING ON THE 27TH.
AS A REMINDER ON YOUR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS.
SO THOSE ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY CITY DOLLARS.
THOSE ARE SUPPORTED ONLY BY THE ASSESSMENTS IN THOSE AREAS.
SO WITH THAT, I WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS.
THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS ON THE PIDS.
YES. ARE THEY AWARE THAT? THAT THEY SPENT EXCESS RESERVES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
YES. OKAY. THOSE WERE ALL DISCUSSED DURING THE BOARD MEETINGS WHEN BEFORE THEY TOOK THAT ACTION? YES. THAT'S ALL I HAVE.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MRS. STORRS. WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS, ONE WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.
I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8116 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM NINE.
A ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES.
[9.B. CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8117]
YES, SIR. SO THIS IS A FOLLOW UP FROM COUNCIL, DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD END OF LAST YEAR.WE HAD A REQUEST FROM COUNCIL MEMBER SCHERLEN TO BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD FOR A DISCUSSION.
AS FAR AS IT GOES, REDUCING THE ETJ OR EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.
THE MAIN REASON IT CAME FORWARD AND WHY IT'S BEING CONSIDERED IS THAT STATE LAW HAS CHANGED QUITE A BIT THE LAST 5 TO 10 YEARS AS FAR AS WHAT AUTHORITY CITIES HAVE AS FAR AS ANNEXING NEW PROPERTIES.
SO THEY'VE ALREADY GIVEN MORE AUTHORITY, ONE TO NOT BE ANNEXED.
AS FAR AS THE NUMBER OF SUBMITTALS THAT COME IN THE COUNTY THAT'S OUTSIDE THAT ONE MILE BOUNDARY.
IS THERE REALLY A CHANCE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ANNEX THOSE? DO WE NEED TO BE AS INVOLVED IN WHAT'S DEVELOPING IN THE COUNTY, OR SHOULD THE COUNTIES HAVE MORE AUTHORITY AND ROLE TO APPROVE WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO APPROVE, ALSO ADOPT THE STANDARDS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE.
WHEN IT COMES TO ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS.
WE GIVE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY INSIDE THE CITY OR WITH CITY REGULATIONS, IF THE ENGINEERS WILL STAMP IT AND THEY HAVE MULTIPLE OPTIONS TO CONSIDER DRAINAGE PATHS, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WILL TAKE WHAT THEIR ENGINEERS SUBMIT AND REVIEW IT AS IS VERSUS FORCING A PARTICULAR STANDARD BASED ON OTHER CRITERIA.
WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED TODAY IS KEEPING IT AT ONE MILE.
I KNOW SOME CITIES ARE CONSIDERING GETTING RID OF THEIR ETJ ALTOGETHER BECAUSE OF THE STATE LAW CHANGES AND HOW TOUGH IT IS TO ANNEX, BUT WE FEEL THAT WE'LL STILL SEE THE BENEFIT OF WORKING WITH OUR DEVELOPERS AND LANDOWNERS THAT WANT TO BE IN THE CITY.
THE TYPICAL SECTION OF LAND THAT WE ANNEX IS ABOUT A MILE, SO WE'LL STILL HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF ANNEXING THAT ONE MILE, AND THEN AS SOON AS YOU ANNEX IT, EXTENDS IT OUT ANOTHER MILE SO IT GROWS WITH YOU AS THE CITY GROWS.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE DID BUILD IT IN HERE THAT IT WOULD BE A SIX MONTH NOTICE SO WE CAN LET OUR FOUR COUNTIES THAT WE HAVE ETJ AGREEMENTS WITH, TO KNOW ABOUT THE CHANGE SO THEY CAN PREPARE FOR THE INCREASE IN SUBMITTALS WITH THEIR CONTRACT ENGINEERS OR IN-HOUSE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT, AS WELL AS LETTING OUR KNOW OUR SURVEYORS, ENGINEERS AND THOSE FIRMS THAT WE WORK WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THE BIG CHANGE IS THEY'LL HAVE ANOTHER PLACE TO SUBMIT THEIR PLANS.
THEY'LL HAVE A DIFFERENT FEE THAT THEY PAY TO THE COUNTY FOR REVIEW AND INSPECTIONS.
SO WE WANT TO GIVE THEM PLENTY OF TIME TO PREPARE FOR THAT CHANGE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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JUST JUST KIND OF AS A [INAUDIBLE].SO THE DOWNSIDE OF KEEPING THIS AT FIVE MILES? THE DOWNSIDE OF KEEPING IT, JUST CONTINUING TO REGULATE CITY, CRITERIA AND REQUIREMENTS IN AN AREA THAT WE MAY NEVER ANNEX IN THE FUTURE. THE MAIN REASON WE WOULDN'T ANNEX IT IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT DEVELOPING WITH WATER AND SEWER UTILITIES, SO WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ANNEX THEM FOR THAT REASON, BUT ALSO, THE POSSIBILITY OF ACHIEVING AN ANNEXATION IS VERY SLIM BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE AN ELECTION OR PETITION OF THOSE RESIDENTS WITHIN THAT SECTION OF LAND.
SO THE ODDS OF US BEING SUCCESSFUL ANNEXING IS ALSO A CHALLENGE.
YEAH, AND HAVE WE HAD ANY, TIME WHERE IT'S COME UP WHERE WE'VE HAD ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THAT ONE MILE AREA INVOLVING THE ETJ? HAS THAT BEEN RECENT? DOES THAT COME UP OFTEN AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING? YES, QUITE OFTEN, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF ETJ DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY ALSO, PLAT THEM AND DEVELOP THEM IN LARGER SECTIONS THAN INSIDE THE CITY BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE TO DO THE ROADS AND THE DRAINAGE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO EXTEND WATER UTILITIES.
SO WE'LL ACTUALLY SEE MORE LOTS AND LARGER DEVELOPMENTS TAKING PLACE AT THE SAME TIME VERSUS PIECING AND PHASING THAT WE SEE IN THE CITY LIMITS BUT NOW THAT RESPONSIBILITY GOES TO THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY OUTSIDE THE ONE MILE.
THE QUESTION THAT I HEAR IS, WELL, WHAT IF YOU HAD A LANDOWNER THAT'S FIVE MILES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY? YOU REMOVE YOUR ETJ DOWN.
ARE THEY NOT ABLE TO BE ANNEXED? NO. SO IF WELL, THEY WOULD HAVE A TOUGH TIME BEING ANNEXED UNLESS THEY'RE CONTIGUOUS.
IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO REQUEST ANNEXATION.
SOMEBODY USED TO YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND REACH OUT A LITTLE FURTHER, ANNEX SOMEBODY IN.
NOW YOU'RE REFERENCING STATE LAW SAYING YOU HAVE TO BE RIGHT UP NEXT TO EXISTING BOUNDARIES.
SO YOU EITHER HAVE TO ABUT OR THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY.
IN THE PAST, THEY TOTALLY REMOVED THAT.
YOU COULD USE A ROAD TO GET OUT TO THEM.
SO THAT COULD OFFER SOME FLEXIBILITY TO BYPASS SOME THAT MAY WANT TO STAY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
RIGHT? LIKE, SO I'M BRINGING YOU MY PLANS FOR MY, LET'S SAY THEY ARE TWO ACRE TRACT DEVELOPMENTS, AND I'M PUTTING IN A ROAD, BUT I'M NOT REALLY DOING ANYTHING OTHER THAN BAR DITCHES, AND THEN THESE ARE JUST TWO ACRE TRACKS, BUT BUT YOU GUYS ARE HAVING TO REVIEW THAT, AND STAFF'S REVIEWING THAT ON, ON BEHALF OF ME THAT'S OUT IN THE COUNTY. I DON'T PAY ANY CITY TAXES, BUT I GET THAT SERVICE FOR FREE.
SO NOW THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE INSTEAD OF COMING TO, YOU KNOW, THE SIMS BUILDING OR CITY HALL, I WOULD BE GOING TO THE COUNTY, THAT THAT'S THE NORMAL PROCESS FOR EVERYWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, FROM HERE TO [INAUDIBLE] ANYWAY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. YEAH. SO THEY THEY HAVE ALL THESE SERVICES.
WE'RE NOT HANDING ANYTHING OVER TO THEM, THAT THEY'RE UNPREPARED FOR OR THAT THEY DON'T ALREADY DO.
THEY CAN SET THEIR OWN FEES TO TRY AND COST RECOVERY.
THOSE INSPECTIONS, THEY CAN ALSO I BELIEVE RANDALL COUNTY IS ADOPTING THEIR NEW SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS SO THEY CAN UPDATE THEIR RULES, HOW THEY SEE FIT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY, AND REALLY, WE ALWAYS WANT TO WORK WITH EVERY LANDOWNER THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS, AND ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED IN ANNEXING HAS A GOOD PLAN MEETS ALL OUR CRITERIA.
I MEAN, WE CAN STILL WORK WITH THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR, MR. FREEMAN? NO.
I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8117 AS PRESENTED.
SECOND HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WITH NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
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AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.[9.C. CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8118]
HOOPER COMING UP HERE TO, GIVE US A QUICK REVIEW ON SPEED CUSHIONS AND THAT ORDINANCE.JUST TO FOLLOW UP FROM A MEETING THAT WE HAD IN JANUARY.
WE GET MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR SPEED HUMPS OR SPEED BUMPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE ARE RESEARCH AND FINDING SPEED CUSHIONS.
WE FELT LIKE WE HAD SOMETHING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
SO JUST KIND OF GO OVER THE LANGUAGE THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE.
AGAIN, IT'S A PETITION OF 70% OF THE HOMEOWNERS.
IF YOU'VE BEEN PREVIOUSLY DENIED A PETITION, YOU'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THREE YEARS.
IT IS ONE VOTE FOR EACH LOT, AND THAT IS THE HOME OWNER OF THAT LOT.
THAT'S THE WAY WE PUT IT IN THE ORDINANCE ALSO, REGISTERED PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATIONS OR RECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS CAN REQUEST THAT WITH JUST A BLANKET STATEMENT FROM THEIR BOARD MEETING THAT THEY HAD, AND PUBLIC WORKS, OF COURSE, IS OVERSEEING THIS, BUT WE HAVE ALSO ASSISTANCE WITH FIRE AND POLICE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THEIR EMERGENCY ROUTES AND THE CITY SECRETARY WILL BE INVOLVED IN IT AS WELL.
SOME OF THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE, AS FAR AS OPERATIONAL REQUIREMENTS ARE CONCERNED, MUST BE ON A LOCAL RESIDENTIAL STREET OR RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR STREET THAT MEETS THE VOLUME VEHICLE VOLUME PER DAY COUNTS.
STREETS CAN'T BE WIDER THAN 38FT.
TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS ARE GOING TO FALL INTO THIS CATEGORY.
NO MORE THAN ONE MOVING LANE OF TRAFFIC, AND THE VOLUMES OF 500, MORE THAN 500 AND LESS THAN 300 A DAY, AND VEHICLE SPEEDS IN THAT 85TH PERCENTILE OF 36 MILES AN HOUR, AND CANNOT BE IDENTIFIED AS A PRIMARY ROUTE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
IF WE HAVE A LOT OF DRAINAGE STRUCTURES ON THAT STREET, OF COURSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO QUALIFY THAT ONE CAN'T BE LOCATED ON A HORIZONTAL CURVE WHERE YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND THAT TO SEE THAT IT'S COMING, OR VERTICAL GRADE OF GREATER THAN 8%.
THAT'S PRETTY STANDARD WITH ANYONE THAT'S DOING THESE.
WE DID ADD THIS PIECE TO FOR NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH THERE, AS A COUNCILMAN TIPPS HAD ASKED US TO, SO WE WENT BACK AND PROVIDED A SECTION IN THERE WHERE THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE US WITH THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS TO SHOW WHAT KIND OF PROJECTED TRAFFIC THEY'RE GOING TO SEE WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT ARE THERE, WE'LL EVALUATE THAT IN HOUSE AND DETERMINE THEIR ELIGIBILITY, AND THEY MUST MEET THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT I JUST WENT OVER IN THE PAST TWO SLIDE PAGES, JUST FOR WHAT THEY WOULD SEE AS FAR AS, HORIZONTAL CURVES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
COST RESPONSIBILITY. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST MEETING AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HOOPER? NO.
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ON IT.
THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN.
WE ACCEPT ORDINANCE 8118, AS STATED.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM 9C ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS GUY? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES.
ITEM 9D MISS LAURA STORRS IS BACK UP TO, TALK TO US ABOUT OUR AMARILLO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
[9.D. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 02-13-24-3]
OKAY. THANK YOU. MAYOR.SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE REIMBURSEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE AMARILLO CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
SO IF YOU'LL REMEMBER BACK TO OUR BUDGET WORKSHOPS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT BUDGET TODAY.
THIS IS MORE RELATED TO THE WORK THAT THEY DO, TO HELP SUPPORT CITY INITIATIVES.
THEY DO THINGS DOWN IN AUSTIN.
THEY DO THINGS IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
HERE LOCALLY AS WELL, AND SO THE WAY WE HAVE SHAPED THIS AGREEMENT IS THAT IT RUNS ON A FISCAL YEAR BASIS, AND IT'S NOT TO EXCEED AMOUNT. SO THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST YEAR OF IT.
IT'S AT $50,000 NOT TO EXCEED, AND WHAT THEY WOULD DO IS AT THE END OF THE YEAR THEY WOULD TURN INTO US ALL ELIGIBLE EXPENSES, AND WE COULD PRESENT THAT ALL TO YOU GUYS AND THEN ACTUALLY PROCEED WITH REIMBURSING THEM FOR IT SO THEY DON'T GET JUST THE BLANKET 50,000.
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FORWARD, WE WOULD ASK THEM TO LET US KNOW BY A MAY TIME FRAME TO WHAT THEY MIGHT NEED IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, SO WE CAN BUILD IT INTO THE BUDGET AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR IT.SO WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MRS. STORRS? MR. HARRISON, GO AHEAD AND COME ON UP HERE.
SOUNDS GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME, I APPRECIATE IT.
REALLY, I THINK ONE OF MY GOALS WHEN I TOOK OVER THE CHAMBER WAS TO BE MORE OF AN ADVOCATE WITH THE CITY AND LOOKING AT ADDITIONAL EVENTS, ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN SUPPORT OF INITIATIVES THAT THE CITY MAY HAVE.
WE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH THE CITY ON JUST ABOUT ANY INITIATIVE THAT MIGHT COME UP, AND SO REALLY ALL THIS IS, IS JUST TO HELP WITH SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES THAT MIGHT COME UP. IT MAY BE ZERO, IT MAY BE TEN, I DON'T KNOW, 50,000, I THINK WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS THROWN OUT THERE.
AGAIN, I DON'T I DON'T WANT MONEY ON THE FRONT END.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO AND WORK FOR THE CITY ON BEHALF OF THE CHAMBER, AND THEN COME BACK TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT WE DID, AND THEN LET THE CITY AND YOU GUYS DECIDE, OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S COMMUNITY WIDE, NO THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE MEMBERSHIP DRIVEN, BUT THIS JUST ALLEVIATES SOME OF MY CONCERN WITH BUILDING UP A LOT OF EXPENSES THAT ARE COMING RIGHT OUT OF THE CHAMBER AND NOT BEING ABLE TO BE, RECOUPED FOR, FOR SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
SO THAT'S REALLY IN A NUTSHELL, WHAT THIS CAME DOWN TO.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE A PART OF A TAKING FLIGHT PROGRAM THAT'S HELPING AIR SERVICE HERE IN AMARILLO, AND I THINK THAT IT'S BEEN A VALUABLE RESOURCE, AND I THINK THERE'S MANY MORE OF THOSE PROGRAMS OUT THERE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF US GETTING TOGETHER AND WORKING THROUGH THEM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR JASON, GENTLEMEN? MAN, WE KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD AMARILLO AMBASSADORS OVER THERE, AND, THIS GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THEM OUT THERE AND LET THEM DO WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS NEED TO DO, WHICH IS TO CONTINUE TO PROMOTE COMMERCE BUSINESS HERE IN AMARILLO AND GROW THE DRAW HERE, AND SO I THINK IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE LIKE THE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE MANAGING IT.
IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT AND GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO GO OUT AND SPEND MONEY AND THEN COME BACK IN AND SHOW US WHAT YOU DID ON OUR BEHALF AND THEN BE REIMBURSED FOR IT. SO IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT WE WANT YOU TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP.
YOU BET. I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS NEW.
SO AS WE MOVE ON DOWN THE YEARS, THEN WE CAN SEE HOW IT'S GOING AND WE CAN ALWAYS MASSAGE IT AND ADD TO IT, TAKE AWAY FROM IT WHATEVER, BUT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, NOTHING TO THE CITY UNTIL IT'S DONE AND THEN EVEN THEN, NOTHING TO THE CITY UNLESS YOU GUYS DECIDE, YEAH, THAT DOES FIT INTO IT.
WELL, WE'RE GLAD TO LET YOU SHOW US THAT ROI.
SO YOU GUYS KEEP PUSHING FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. YOU BET.
THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOU DO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
YEAH I MOVE WE ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 02-13-24-3 SECOND.
OKAY, I HAVE A MOTION, FROM COUNCILMAN SIMPSON.
A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN TIPPS ON ITEM 9D.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. ITEM 9E.
[9.E. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 02-13-24-4]
THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE HERE, AND I'M GOING TO FLIP TO THE BACK OF MY NOTES HERE JUST SO I HAVE IT.THIS RESOLUTION ACTUALLY CAME.
THANK YOU SIR. THIS RESOLUTION RESOLUTION ACTUALLY CAME UP ON OUR MESSAGE BOARD, AND SO, I HAVE BECOME A BIG FAN AND ADVOCATE OF MESSAGE BOARD.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT TOOL THAT WE AS COUNCIL ARE BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS SO THAT IT'S NOT EVERY TWO WEEKS OR HOWEVER LONG BEFORE WE CAN PUT AN IDEA OUT, AND SO COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN, WATCHING WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN AT THE STATE BORDER, WATCHING THE INTENTIONAL INVASION OF OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY, BUT , YOU KNOW, A LARGE MAJORITY OF IT THAT'S COMING THROUGH, THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THEN, LOOKING AT OPERATION LONE STAR, WHICH, UNFORTUNATELY, IS A MEASURE THAT I THINK YOU'VE SEEN OUR GOVERNOR TAKE, AS KIND OF A LAST DITCH EFFORT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED YOUR HELP DOWN HERE, AND WE LIKE, WE LOVE THE US CONSTITUTION.
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ARE ALL SITTING HERE VERY CONSCIENTIOUS OF THE REALITY THAT WE SEE OF HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME ACROSS OUR BORDER, THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON OUR TERROR WATCH LIST OR IDENTIFIED AS A POTENTIAL THREAT, AND AN ANTAGONIST TO THIS COUNTRY.YOU'RE WATCHING SOMEWHERE NORTH OF 9 MILLION PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THESE SOUTHERN BORDERS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, WITH A FORECAST OF AROUND 12 TO 14 MILLION BEFORE BIDEN IS, HOPEFULLY OUT OF OFFICE, AND SO I JUST PUT ALL THAT OUT THERE, JUST REAL PLAIN AND SIMPLE, AND I THINK THAT IS, THE WAY IN WHICH WE ADDRESS THIS, AND SO, THIS IS A SHOW OF SUPPORT.
IT'S A RESOLUTION, AND I THINK WE AS TEXANS NEED TO BACK OUR FELLOW TEXANS THAT ARE A LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH, DOWN IN AUSTIN, AND THEY NEED TO KNOW THAT WE'RE PULLING FOR THEM UP HERE, AND SO THIS MAKES A STATEMENT, AND I WOULD SINCE I WOULD ASK COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN SINCE HE BROUGHT THIS UP, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO AND THEN WE'LL MOVE THROUGH COUNCIL.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT STATEMENT.
WE SHOW AS A CITY WHERE WE STAND.
WE WOULDN'T BE TAKING THIS ACTION.
IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS DOING WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO.
SO I'M VERY PRO WHAT IS WRITTEN THERE? THANK YOU SIR. DO I HAVE ANY ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS OR EVEN PERHAPS A REMARK OR TWO? YES, SIR. NO.
NO. I WOULD LIKE TO JUST HIT A FEW HIGHLIGHTS BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS ONE.
OUR BORDER, DOESN'T JUST KEEP PEOPLE FROM CROSSING IT.
OUR BORDER REGULATES COMMERCE, AND WE HAVE, POINTS OF ENTRY, AND THERE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LEGAL IMMIGRATION, AND WE, AS THE CITY OF AMARILLO, HAVE, AT ONE TIME, I THINK WE STILL ARE THE SECOND LARGEST PER CAPITA POPULATION OF OF REFUGEES, AND SO WE HAVE, SOMALIAN, MAIER, MYANMAR, BURUNDI, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT REFUGEES THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE IN AMARILLO THAT HAVE ASSIMILATED TO AMARILLO AND TAKE CARE OF ALL SORTS OF GOOD THINGS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEY BUILD THEIR CULTURE AND THEY BRING KIND OF THEIR FABRIC AND THEY THEY TRULY HAVE ASSIMILATED AS LEGAL REFUGEES.
WE HAVE NONPROFITS THAT WORK HERE, AND THESE ARE THE TYPES THAT ARE SEEING THIS AS THIS INFLUX OF PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE, ILLEGALLY WITHOUT PERMISSION, NOT COMING THROUGH A POINT OF ENTRY AND TRULY NOT BEING WILLING TO ASSIMILATE INTO THE FABRIC OF SOCIETY THAT WE GET TO ENJOY HERE WITH THESE REFUGEES THAT ARE HERE AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ON THE GOOD SIDE, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE IN, I'LL GIVE YOU A STATISTIC HERE.
REFUGEES ARE DIFFERENT THAN ASYLUM SEEKERS.
REFUGEES HAVE A DIFFERENT REASON FOR COMING HERE.
SINCE OCTOBER, WE'VE SETTLED 51 REFUGEES HERE IN AMARILLO.
SOMALIAN, THAILAND, MYANMAR AND BURUNDI.
THIS CURRENT YEAR, WE BELIEVE, WILL SETTLE ANOTHER 150, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSIMILATE AND SETTLE 200-250 PEOPLE A YEAR AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY AND TAKE THEM THROUGH THE PROGRAMS AND CONTINUE WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE.
WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO SETTLE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INTO THIS COMMUNITY.
NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT TAKING CARE OF THE POPULATION THAT WE HAVE THAT'S COME HERE LEGALLY.
WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT CHINA, PROVIDES THESE RAW MATERIALS, INTO MEXICO AND MEXICO PROCESSES THESE PILLS, AND THAT THOSE PILLS END UP ON OUR BORDER TOWNS AND, AND CONSEQUENTLY, RIGHT HERE AT I-40 AND I-27, WE'RE A MAIN CORRIDOR AND WE SEE, DRUG SEIZURE AFTER DRUG SEIZURE AND ARREST AFTER ARREST, WHERE WE ARE PULLING THESE PILLS, OUT OF THIS TOWN AND SO THAT IS A FACT, AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE CONCERNED WITH.
WE HAD FIVE, OVERDOSE DEATHS IN 2022, AND IN 2023, WE HAD 12 OVERDOSE DEATHS FROM FENTANYL, AND THIS NEXT YEAR, MAYBE IT'LL DOUBLE AGAIN, AND THEN AS THAT EPIDEMIC CONTINUES, WITHOUT US BEING ABLE TO PUSH BACK INTO CONTROL THOSE BORDERS EFFECTIVELY.
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I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD EXPECT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT OUTCOME.SO WE HAVE TO TAKE CONTROL OF OUR BORDER.
NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE HAVE MORE OR LESS PROPPED UP.
I'D SAY 4 OR 5 CARTELS, THAT WE KNOW ARE OPERATING HERE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS AND THAT THEY WORK ALONGSIDE OF LOCAL GANG MEMBERS, AND THESE LOCAL GANGS FACILITATE A VERY ORGANIZED CRIMINAL INDUSTRY, AND SO THAT'S THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING ELEMENT.
THAT'S THE ORGANIZED CRIME ELEMENT.
THAT'S EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE SEE.
IF WE WANT TO LIVE IN A SAFE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO HAVE A STRONG STATE THAT MANAGES ITS BORDER, AND SO SOMETHING LIKE THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST SAY, ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE PRO-AMERICAN.
IT'S TIME TO TAKE A STAND STAND UP FOR THOSE AND TO TAKE A STAND ON WHAT YOUR RIGHTS ARE AND OUR RIGHTS ARE, AND AS THE STATE OF TEXAS, IT'S OUR OBLIGATION TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS HERE IN THE STATE.
THANK YOU GUYS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TO THAT.
I WOULD ASK IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING ELSE.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ADD TOO, OTHERWISE, I'M EXCITED TO VOTE THIS ONE THROUGH.
WE ACCEPT. RESOLUTION 02-13-24-4.
SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.
ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM 9F WE HAVE MR.
[9.F. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 02-13-24-5]
FREEMAN COMING FORWARD.YES, SIR, AND I'LL ASK MR. CARTER WITH THE AEDC TO COME UP HERE IN A MINUTE TO COVER THEIR PIECE.
WE GOT SOME FEEDBACK ON SOME POTENTIAL CHANGES TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE GUIDELINES.
THEY WERE LAST ADOPTED IN AUGUST OF 2019.
HAVEN'T REALLY TOUCHED THEM SINCE THAT TIME.
SO WE HAVE SOME MINOR CHANGES TO PRESENT TO YOU, REALLY RELATED TO THE CRITERIA TO QUALIFY FOR AN INCENTIVE, AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME MINOR TYPOS AND ADJUSTMENTS TO MAKE SOME LAWS THAT EXISTED BEFORE NO LONGER IN EXISTENCE.
SO WE HAVE THAT TO UPDATE, AND I ALSO WANTED TO SHARE THE AEDC BOARD DID CONSIDER THEIR CHANGES TO THEIR PORTION OF THE GUIDELINES AT THEIR JANUARY 29TH MEETING, AND DID VOTE TO APPROVE THOSE.
SO AS FAR AS THE CITY CHANGES THAT I'LL COVER, IT'S AGAIN RELATED TO THE TAX ABATEMENT CRITERIA.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD TO QUALIFY.
NOW WE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST IT TO MATCH HOW AEDC WORDS THEIRS, AND INSTEAD OF PAYROLL, WE'RE UPDATING THAT TO AVERAGE GROSS WAGE PER JOB OF 50,000, AND THEN PROBABLY THE THE OTHER BIG CHANGE IS THE WAY THE ANNUAL ABATEMENT LANGUAGE IS PRESENTED.
PREVIOUSLY IT STATED UP TO 40% ANNUALLY.
NOW WE'RE HAVING THE PREFERRED SLIDING SCALE REFERENCED IN THE MATRIX.
SO IF IT'S A 40% TAX ABATEMENT, IT WOULD ACTUALLY STEP DOWN EACH YEAR BY 10%.
NOW 8 MILLION, 8 MILLION CAPITAL INVESTMENT GOES TO 12 AND THEN 15 MILLION GOES TO 20, AND SO JUST INCREASING THOSE THRESHOLDS, KNOWING HOW MUCH COST INCREASE, COST OF CONSTRUCTION AND ALL THE INVESTMENT BEING MADE THAT WE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME TO RAISE THOSE, AS WELL, AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGE IS ON PAGE NINE OF OUR INCENTIVE GUIDELINES, WITH SALES TAX REBATES ALSO UPDATING THE NEW PAYROLL LANGUAGE OF 800,000, CHANGING THAT TO AVERAGE GROSS WAGE PER JOB OF 50,000, AND THEN A MINIMUM OF 25 NEW FULL TIME JOBS INSTEAD OF 20.
THANK YOU ALL FOR SPENDING THE TIME, LAST MONTH TO GO OVER THESE GUIDELINES.
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LIKE I SAID, IT'D BEEN A WHILE SINCE, THEY HAD BEEN REVIEWED.REALLY? THE MAJOR CHANGES WITH US, ARE ON OUR, CAPITAL INVESTMENT AND OUR AVERAGE JOB, GROSS WAGE.
ONE MATRIX ON PAGE 16 OF OUR GUIDELINES, THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT WAS REALLY, KIND OF REALLY LOW.
SO WE INCREASED, ALL FOUR OF THOSE CATEGORIES.
WE, WE QUADRUPLED THOSE INVESTMENTS.
SO THE MINIMUM WAS AT 500,000, AND THE, THE MAXIMUM WAS AT 2 MILLION, AND WE TOOK THOSE TO 2 MILLION, THROUGH 8 MILLION ON THE CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO, TO GET THE JOB AND, JOB CREATION INCENTIVE.
WE ADDED 5000 TO EACH ONE OF THE AVERAGE AVERAGE GROSS WAGE PER JOB.
WHERE THE MINIMUM WHERE WE'LL INCENTIVIZE A JOB HAS TO PAY AT LEAST $50,000 PER YEAR.
THAT PUTS IT CLOSE TO THE, AVERAGE BETWEEN THE TWO COUNTIES.
MEDIAN WAGE. WE'RE NOT QUITE THERE, BUT IT'S ABOVE THE POTTER COUNTY, MEDIAN WAGE AND A LITTLE BELOW THE RANDALL COUNTY MEDIAN WAGE, BUT CLOSER TO THE AVERAGE AND THEN THE OTHER CHANGES WERE MAINLY FORMATTING CHANGES IN A COUPLE OF TYPOS, BUT CERTAINLY WOULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU ALL HAD THOSE, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK. LAST MONTH, SPENDING THE TIME, ON AEDC.
THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARTER? NO, THANK YOU, SIR.
THANKS, KEVIN. I GOT A QUESTION.
GO RIGHT AHEAD. DID Y'ALL NOT ADDRESS THE CHANGE IN MEMBERSHIP? I ASKED TO GO TO SEVEN.
ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT THE BOARD MEMBERS? BOARD MEMBERS? YEAH.
SO, YEAH, THAT'S ON THIS DISCUSSION, BUT I KNOW THAT TO CLARIFY INCENTIVE GUIDELINES, ONLY IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING THIS WAS THE SAME GUIDELINES.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE TALKING QUARTERLY, BUT IN A FEW MONTHS WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK THAT DISCUSSION, AS WELL AS THE DASHBOARD METRICS OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TRACKING, AND CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION ON BOTH.
YES, SIR. SO MAKE SURE COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN, DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING ELSE HERE, BUT LOOKING AT THE THE ADDITIONAL CHANGES ON THE BOARD SIZE AND THE ADDITIONAL BOARD MEMBERS, THAT WILL COME UP IN THE NEXT MEETING, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING ANOTHER MEETING WITH YOU AND YOUR BOARD.
LOOK AT THAT. ALSO LOOK AT OUR STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLANNING, IN THE WAY IN WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THOSE OTHER NEEDS THAT WE HAVE ON OUR SIDE WITH INFRASTRUCTURE AND GROWTH AND THEN I THINK WE EVEN HAD TALKED ABOUT MAYBE TRYING TO GET SOME, CONSULTING OR PULLING FROM SOME OF OUR LOCAL, YOU KNOW, CONSULTANTS THAT CAN STEP IN AND EVALUATE AND HELP US STEER.
YEAH, I KNOW THAT YOU AND I MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE PUTTING TOGETHER A CEO COUNCIL TO HELP WITH THOSE THINGS, AND I KNOW, CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT DASHBOARD, BUT I DO KNOW THE MAYOR HAD SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL BOARD MEMBERS SOMETIME, HOPEFULLY BY BY SUMMERTIME.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU TOLD ME. YES, SIR.
YEAH. SO I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON OUR SIDE.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARTER? NO.
THANK YOU. OKAY. APPRECIATE YOU SIR.
WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON 9F, PLEASE.
I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 9F NUMBER ZERO 02-13-24-5.
I'LL SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.
[9.G. CONSIDER AWARD - SERVICE CENTER COMPLEX IMPROVEMENTS]
DO WE HAVE MR. DANFORTH UP FOR THIS ONE? THIS IS, OUR LAST ITEM TODAY.COME AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON OUR SERVICE CENTER, PLEASE, SIR.
MAYOR, COUNCIL, APPRECIATE YOU SAVING THE BEST FOR LAST, BUT HERE WE ARE.
SO, THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY PART OF THE SPACE STUDY THAT WE DID SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THE GOAL WAS TO UTILIZE THAT BUILDING FOR UTILITIES, DRAINAGE AND STREETS.
CURRENTLY, UTILITIES IS OPERATING IN THAT BUILDING, BUT ACCESSIBILITY TO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE BUILDING, WERE LIMITED, AND SO THAT BEING SAID, WE HAD TO THIS PROJECT ADDRESSES THAT LIMITATION.
IT GIVES US MORE ENTRANCES INTO THE BUILDING, GIVES US BETTER FLOW CONTROL FOR THE FACILITY, AND THEN IT GIVES US CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS AND APPROACHES AND PARKING LOTS, WHEREAS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ASPHALT THAT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD AND THERE'S NOT MUCH OF IT LEFT, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, WHEN WE HAVE A MAJOR
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WEATHER EVENT, THAT BUILDING COULD POTENTIALLY BE SHUT DOWN IF WE DON'T MAKE THESE KINDS OF CORRECTIONS.SO THAT'S BASICALLY GIVES YOU A CRIB NOTES VERSION OF WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING THERE.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE ONLY ONE I HAVE, SIR, IS I WAS JUST CURIOUS AS TO WHY PLAINS BUILDERS OVER PANHANDLE STEEL.
THAT CAME DOWN TO A SCORING MATRIX.
THIS WAS THE BEST VALUE BID AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, THERE WAS THREE CRITERIA.
30 DAYS IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TIME.
QUITE FRANKLY, WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD FOR THAT BUILDING TO BE SHUT DOWN, AND SO WITH PLAINS BUILDERS AND THE WAY THAT THEY PRESENTED THEIR PACKAGE AND THE ABILITY TO GET DONE QUICKER, IT OFFSET THE DIFFERENTIAL IN PRICE BY QUITE A BIT.
WE KNOW THIS WILL HIT OUR RETURN ON OUR INVESTMENT WITH EFFICIENCIES.
A LOT OF IN AND OUT AND TRAFFIC FLOW AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, AND THEN, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN OUT THERE, BUT I'M SURE IT'S CRUSHED ASPHALT MORE SO THAN ASPHALT. WELL, IT APPEARS TO BE THAT WAY, BUT I'M SURE IT WAS ORIGINALLY ASPHALT, BUT RIGHT.
THAT'S OUR LAST ITEM HERE ON 9G.
IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE TO AWARD CONTRACT FOR ITEM NUMBER 9G TO PLAINS BUILDERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $2,494,025 FOR THE SERVICE CENTER COMPLEX IMPROVEMENTS.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ONE? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES.
WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS STAYING AND BEING HERE.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO GET MORE AND MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE.
I WAS SHOOTING FOR FIVE, AND IT'S 5:40, SO.
WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN, AND WE'LL GET OUT OF HERE.
I MOVE TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU FOR COMING.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.