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[2. Invocation Greg Dowell, Central Church of Christ]

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IF YOU GUYS WOULDN'T MIND, WE'RE ALL GOING TO STAND.

AND PASTOR GREG DOWELL FROM CENTRAL CHURCH IS GOING TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.

THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE OUR PLEDGES.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

LET'S PRAY. FATHER, YOU ARE A GOOD, GRACIOUS, MERCIFUL, HOLY, TRUTHFUL, COMPASSIONATE GOD.

ABOUNDING IN LOVE.

AND FATHER, OUR PRAYER IS THAT YOUR KINGDOM COMES AND YOUR WILL BE DONE.

FATHER, I PRAY FOR THIS CITY THAT WE WILL TREAT ONE ANOTHER WITH DIGNITY AND WITH RESPECT.

THAT WE WILL LISTEN TO ONE ANOTHER, THAT WE WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON ONE ANOTHER, THAT WILL JOIN TOGETHER WHEN THERE ARE TIMES OF NEED.

AND, FATHER, THAT WE WILL BE THE KIND OF CITY THAT YOU DESIRE.

AND THEN, FATHER, I PRAY FOR THE CITY LEADERS.

I PRAY FOR THE MAYOR AND FOR THIS COUNCIL.

BUT, FATHER, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE THIS CITY RUN.

FATHER, GIVE THEM DISCERNMENT.

GIVE THEM WISDOM.

GIVE THEM COURAGE.

GIVE THEM COURAGE AS LEADERS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND FATHER, FILL THEM WITH COMPASSION.

THAT THEY WILL HAVE A LOVE FOR THE PEOPLE HERE IN AMARILLO AS WELL.

FATHER AGAIN, OUR DESIRE IS TO LEAN INTO YOUR GOODNESS, TO LEAN INTO YOUR GRACIOUSNESS, TO LEAN INTO JUST YOUR CHARACTER, FATHER, AND MAY YOUR KINGDOM COME AND YOUR WILL BE DONE IN CHRIST'S NAME.

AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU, SIR. IF YOU'LL JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

WE'LL DO OUR TEXAS FLAG.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

PLEASE BE SEATED. THANK YOU.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR ATTENDING OUR MEETING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A VERY LARGE, THICK AGENDA BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH SEVERAL OTHER ITEMS AND SO THIS WILL PROVE OUT TO BE A LONGER MEETING, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO RUN IT VERY EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE STILL WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY SPEAK THAT'S COME HERE TO SPEAK.

SO WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND MISS CITY SECRETARY WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL UP OUR SPEAKERS.

[5. Public Comment]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

YOUR INPUT AND YOUR OPINIONS ARE IMPORTANT WITH US AND WE ARE GLAD YOU'RE HERE TO SHARE THEM TODAY.

AT EACH POSTED MEETING, WE INVITE OUR FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO ADDRESS CITY COUNCIL REGARDING POSTED AGENDA ITEMS OR ANY TOPICS RELATED TO CITY POLICY.

EVERY SPEAKER TODAY WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL.

AT THE END OF 2.5 MINUTES YOU'LL HAVE A WARNING BEEP ALERTING YOU THAT YOU HAVE 30S LEFT TO WRAP UP YOUR THOUGHTS.

WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE PUBLIC HEARINGS TODAY.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE 12.

SO IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON A PUBLIC HEARING, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU EITHER SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING, DURING PUBLIC COMMENT OR DURING THAT PUBLIC HEARING, ONE OR THE OTHER, TO HELP US KEEP ACCURATE RECORDS FOR OUR MINUTES TODAY.

IT'S YOUR DECISION AT WHICH TIME YOU WOULD WISH TO SPEAK.

WHEN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE TODAY, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME WHETHER OR NOT YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF AMARILLO AND THEN SHARE YOUR COMMENTS WITH COUNCIL.

WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX SPEAKERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.

FIRST IS LAVONDA MOSLEY, AND AFTER MISS MOSLEY, CHERYL COOPER WILL BE ON DECK.

GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AND TOURED THE TASCOSA ACRES, THE AMARILLO EAST CREEK SITUATION FOR SEVERAL MONTHS NOW, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE VISIBILITY THAT WE'VE HAD THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS AND ESPECIALLY YESTERDAY AND TODAY.

SO WE DO SEE SOME MOVEMENT OUT THERE.

I'M SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 8 P AND 8 Q.

I DO LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND I LIVE IN TASCOSA ACRES.

THE CONSIDERATION FOR RESOLUTION ON TXDOT FOR THE BRIDGEWORK OR REPAIR AT YUCCA AND THE BRIDGEWORK AT IRWIN.

I AM FULLY IN FAVOR OF BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN BILLIONS OF GALLONS OF STORMWATER THAT'S BEEN RELEASED FROM THE CITY PLAYAS.

MOST OF THAT HAS COME DOWN THE AMARILLO EAST CREEK.

WITH THE RELEASE OF THE STORMWATER, BOTH OF THOSE BRIDGES NEED MAJOR REPAIR.

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AND AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A SINKHOLE.

SOME OF YOU SEEN IT, THE SINKHOLE BETWEEN IRWIN, BOTH IRWIN BRIDGES IN THAT AREA IS BLOCKED OFF.

THE YUCCA BRIDGE, NONE OF YOU ARE ON THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT THAT BRIDGE HAS BEEN DETERIORATING FOR OVER A YEAR AND A HALF WHICH CITY WAS MADE AWARE OF THAT WITHOUT ANY MITIGATION TO DAMAGE REPAIR TO THAT BRIDGE? SINCE THE STORM WATERS IN JUNE, THAT BRIDGE HAS CRACKED FURTHER AND IT CONTINUES TO CRACK MORE AND THE STREET IS SINKING.

I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO PAIN SOME OF OUR CITIZENS.

IT'S GOING TO INCONVENIENCE ME AS WELL.

BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THERE BE CONSIDERATION TO CLOSE THAT BRIDGE BEFORE WE HAVE A SCHOOL BUS OR WE HAVE A CITY TRUCK FALL OFF THAT BRIDGE OR OFF THAT BRIDGE.

YOU HAVE A CITY MAINTENANCE GUYS, THE TRASH TRUCKS, AND THEN YOU HAVE A SCHOOL BUS THAT GOES OVER THAT BRIDGE EVERY MORNING AND EVERY AFTERNOON, THERE ARE SIGNS POSTED THAT SAY THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE A GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT OF 26,000 POUNDS ACROSS THAT BRIDGE.

AND IT HAPPENS DAILY.

SO I LIKE I SAID, IT'S GOING TO PAIN ME.

BUT I THINK FOR THE CITIZENS AND THE SAFETY OF HUMAN LIFE, THAT SHOULD BE DONE.

AND THEN ALSO TO SAVE THE CITY SOME SOME DAMAGE CONTROL WHEN THAT BRIDGE HAPPENS TO FAIL, BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT BRIDGE IS GOING TO FAIL.

WHILE TXDOT IS BEING ASKED TO REPLACE THOSE TWO BRIDGES, I'M GOING TO ASK THAT THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE BARRIER THAT'S BETWEEN THE MELODY AND THE YUCCA EASEMENT.

THAT BARRIER IS GONE.

IF SOMEBODY TAKES A WRONG TURN, ESPECIALLY A TEENAGE DRIVER AT NIGHT, THEY ARE GOING TO END UP IN THE CREEK.

YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM THERE.

WE'VE ASKED FOR THAT SEVERAL TIMES AND THAT HAS BEEN IGNORED.

MY LAST STATEMENT TO THE COUNCIL, IF THE BRIDGE IS IN THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, ARE SUSTAINING THIS MUCH DAMAGE DUE TO STORMWATER RELEASE FROM THE PLAYAS.

YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S DOING TO OUR RETAINING WALLS.

OUR RETAINING WALLS ARE FAILING.

WE HAVE MANY THAT ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR.

AND EVERY TIME THAT THIS IS ON AGENDA, I AM GOING TO STAND UP HERE AND SPEAK ABOUT THE AMARILLO EAST CREEK SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE GET A PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE EAST CREEK AND FOR THE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT PATHWAY.

AGAIN, I SAY THANK YOU TO MAYOR STANLEY AND TO TOM SCHERLEN FOR COMING AND TOURING.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENCE IN OUR IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU MRS. MOSLEY, THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU IN EVERY WAY WE CAN.

AND THEN YOU'LL GET A RESPONSE FROM MY OFFICE THIS WEEK ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS YOU'RE ADDRESSING.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

CHERYL COOPER.

AND ON DECK AFTER MISS COOPER WILL BE JEREMY HELM.

AND I HAVE SOME HANDOUTS FOR THE COUNCIL.

SHOULD I GIVE IT? I MIGHT HAVE EXTRA.

OKAY. I AM SORRY, Y'ALL.

I CAN'T SEE WITH OR WITHOUT GLASSES, SO I HAVE TO JUST SORT OF DO THIS.

OKAY. MY NAME IS CHERYL COOPER, AND I'M.

OH. I'M CHERYL COOPER.

I LIVE IN AMARILLO.

AND IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

I WANT TO BRIEFLY RAISE AWARENESS REGARDING 5G AND THE ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELD IMPLICATIONS EMF AND ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THE ELECTRIC COMPANY IS REALLY PUSHING THIS INSTALLATION OF SMART METERS.

SO I'M WANTING TO MAKE US AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

IN THREE MINUTES I CAN ONLY TOUCH ON A FEW HIGHLIGHTS AND REINFORCE THE FACT THAT EVERY MUNICIPALITY THAT'S INCLUDING THE CITY OF AMARILLO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADOPTING ITS OWN SET OF LAWS GOVERNING THE PLACEMENT, DESIGN STANDARDS, SAFETY FEATURES AND THE WIRELESS TELECOMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT.

AND THIS INCLUDES SMART METERS.

OKAY, SO WHAT IS 5G? IT IS THE FIFTH GENERATION.

IT'S PROMISING HIGH SPEEDS, ALL OF THAT.

BUT 5G WAS NOT PRE-MARKET SAFETY TESTED.

IT'S MORE DANGEROUS THAN EARLIER CELL TOWER GENERATION BECAUSE IT EXPOSES US TO A WIDER VARIETY OF RADIOFREQUENCY RADIATION.

SO NOT ONLY ARE WE GETTING THE 5G MILLIMETER FREQUENCIES, WE'RE ALSO GETTING 2G, 3G, 4G AS WELL.

NOW, WHY SHOULD WE CARE ABOUT THIS? AND WE SHOULD CARE BECAUSE OUR BODIES ARE BIOELECTRICITY WIRED AND SO THOSE OF US WHO ARE VERY SENSITIVE TO IT ARE GOING TO HAVE HEALTH ISSUES.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF HEALTH ISSUES WITH THIS.

SO THIS KIND OF BRINGS US TO SMART METERS.

AND THE REASON WHY I'M CONCERNED IS BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW UTILITY CONSUMPTION MEASUREMENT DEVICE.

AND IT HAS NOT, LIKE I SAY, BEEN SAFETY TESTED.

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AND SO MOST OF THESE SMART METERS, THEY ARE DESIGNED TO ADMIT ALL OF THESE RFR.

AND THERE'S A CONCERN BECAUSE IT ABSORBS IN OUR BODIES AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF HIGH PULSES, ETCETERA.

SO BECAUSE OF THESE ILL EFFECTS, WHAT I'M WANTING TO HOPEFULLY PROPOSE IS THAT WE KIND OF PUT A MORATORIUM AND A HALT ON THIS UNTIL WE CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT, WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND WITH MORE COMMUNITY AWARENESS, WE CAN JOIN THE THOUSANDS OF OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SUCCESSFULLY PUSHED BACK.

BECAUSE IT SOUNDS IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF ENCROACHMENT.

WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS AND ALL OF THIS.

SO MAKE NO MISTAKE, THERE'S A THREAT TO OUR HEALTH AND TO PRIVACY AND ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS WELL DOCUMENTED.

AND SO I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

I HOPE YOU GET A CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH ALL OF THAT.

AND I DO APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MRS. COOPER. APPRECIATE YOU.

OKAY. JEREMY HELM AND ON DECK AFTER MR. HELM WILL BE HOWARD SMITH.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.

MY NAME IS JEREMY HELM AND MY BUSINESS IS RH SEPTIC SYSTEMS. I DO NOT LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS.

I LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND I REPRESENT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE CITY LIMITS, INCLUDING SEPTIC INSTALLERS AND SEPTIC PUMPERS.

FIRST THING I WANT TO DISCUSS IS WE WERE ALL NOTIFIED ON AUGUST 30TH OF OUR SEPTIC PERMIT FEES WERE GOING UP R FROM $460 TO $800.

THAT'S AN OVERNIGHT INCREASE.

THIS IS ABOUT A 30 DAY NOTICE.

US AS INSTALLERS BID OUT 90 DAYS OR MORE.

THE RESULT IN A PERSONAL LOSS FOR ME WAS ABOUT $5,000 IN TWO MONTHS.

OTHER CONTRACTORS COULD BE MORE.

AFTER DOING SOME STATEWIDE RESEARCH DALLAS, SAN ANTONIO, HOUSTON, AUSTIN AND SOME SMALLER TOWNS, THEY ONLY CHARGE 450 OR LESS FOR THIS PERMIT, $800 TO $900 IS A 100% INCREASE OVERNIGHT.

WHO HAS TO SWALLOW THAT? WE DO. AND WHY? I WAS TOLD BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS WERE CUT.

SO NOW WE HAVE TO INCREASE OUR FEES TO MAKE UP THESE CUTS.

AND WHY? WHY IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS CONTRACTORS AND HOMEOWNERS TO PAY FOR Y'ALL'S LACK OF BUDGETING? THE SECOND THING WE AS PUMPERS ARE CONCERNED WITH AND IS A VERY SERIOUS ISSUE NOT ONLY FOR US AND RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, BUT THE ENVIRONMENT.

THE HOLLYWOOD ROAD WASTEWATER FACILITY.

THIS IS OUR ONLY OPTION FOR A DUMP STATION.

THIS FACILITY SHUTS DOWN THE PUMPERS EVERY 2 TO 4 WEEKS AND REMAINS UNUSABLE FOR 2 TO 15 DAYS, SOMETIMES MORE.

THE RESULT IS RESIDENTS WITH BACKUPS, SEPTIC BACKUPS AND POO IN THEIR SHOWERS, OR SOMETIMES EVEN IN THEIR FLOORS.

THAT CAN'T BE HEALTHY FOR ANYBODY.

NOT ONLY A HEALTH HAZARD, BUT A MAJOR INCONVENIENCE TO RESIDENTS OF THE AREA.

BUT IT'S A HUGE FINANCIAL HIT TO MYSELF AND MANY OF THE PUMPERS AND PEOPLE THAT THEY EMPLOY.

THE PUMPING INDUSTRY PAYS THE CITY OF AMARILLO APPROXIMATELY $300,000 PLUS A YEAR IN IN PUMPING FEES.

YET EVERY TIME IT IS SHUT DOWN, THE FACILITY BLAMES THE PUMPERS.

THIS PASS OF THE BUCK IS RIDICULOUS.

A LITTLE GREASE FROM ONE PUMP TRUCK CAN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO COMPARING TO THE GREASE AND INDUSTRIAL WASTE THAT FLOWS FROM THE CITY OF AMARILLO.

WE'RE ASKING FOR A BACK UP PLAN WHEN THE HOLLYWOOD ROAD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT SHUTS DOWN.

GIVE US AN ALTERNATIVE.

LET US GO TO THE RIVER ROAD WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND DUMP.

WHY HASN'T THIS BEEN AN OPTION IN THE PAST? THESE SHUTDOWNS ARE INDICATIVE OF A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE IN THE CITY OF AMARILLO'S WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITIES.

THIS FACILITY WAS BUILT IN THE 1950S AND IS GROSSLY OUT OF DATE AND COMPLETELY UNABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE GROWTH AND EXPANSION OF THE AMARILLO AREA.

THE AMOUNTS OF INDUSTRIAL WASTE AND GREASE FROM RESTAURANTS, THE NEW CHEESE PLANT, THE CAVINESS BEEF, AFFILIATED FOODS AND MANY OTHERS IT LIKELY EXPLAINS THE SHUTDOWNS, NOT GREASE FROM A PUMP TRUCK.

IF THE CATASTROPHIC IF THIS CRITICAL IMPROVEMENTS AND UPDATES ARE NOT DONE, A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE IS IMMINENT.

THE NEXT TIME IT MAY NOT BE A SMALL SPILL.

IT MAY BE DAYS OF UNTREATED SEWAGE SPILLING OUT ONTO THE GROUND AND INTO LAKE TANGLEWOOD, CONTAMINATING WELLS AS IT DID IN THE 80S, CONTAMINATING LAKE TANGLEWOOD'S WATER ONCE AGAIN TO A VERY UNSAFE LEVEL OF WASTE.

UNSAFE LEVEL OF WASTE.

IF THE CITY HAS FUNDS TO CLEAN UP A MESS OF THIS MAGNITUDE, SURELY THEY CAN FIX A GROSSLY OUTDATED AND INADEQUATE WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

WE ARE ASKING WHY EXPANSIONS AND UPGRADES TO THIS FACILITY KEEP GETTING POSTPONED AND BUDGETS CUTS FOR THESE PROJECTS AND WHY 75 YEAR OLD PLANT HAS NOT BEEN MODERNIZED AND EXPANDED TO A CITY THAT'S FOUR TIMES THE SIZE IT WAS IN THE 1950S.

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MR. HELM THANK YOU.

I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THOSE CONCERNS HERE LATER IN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

THANK YOU. MR. SMITH. AND AFTER MR. SMITH WILL HAVE MICHAEL DAMERON ON DECK.

YOU'RE NEXT, MR. DAMERON. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO STILL SPEAK HERE.

AFTERNOON, COUNCILMAN.

I'M HOWARD SMITH.

I LIVE IN THE CITY.

I'VE SERVED ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION BOARD FOR SIX YEARS SINCE I WAS FIRST ELECTED IN 2017. MAYOR STANLEY SERVED THE LAST 12 MONTHS OR SO.

AND I AM IN SUPPORT OF ITEM 8W CONSIDERING THE SALE OF COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE PARKING GARAGE. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO VOTE FOR IT.

WE WORKED SIX YEARS TRYING TO GET IT TO HAPPEN, BUT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

BUT WORKING WITH MAYOR STANLEY AND [INAUDIBLE] ON THE SUBCOMMITTEE AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION BOARD, WE KIND OF L OOKED AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND THIS OPTION CAME UP.

SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU EXTRA TIME.

I'M THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

I SEE. THANK YOU.

HOWARD SMITH. THANK YOU, SIR.

GET COMFORTABLE.

OKAY, MR. DAMERON, YOU'RE UP NOW.

AND AFTER MR. DAMERON, JESSE FRIMMER WILL BE UP NEXT.

THANK YOU FOR RECEIVING ME.

FOUR YEARS AGO, I CONTRACTED THE NORTH RIDGE OR THE EAST RIDGE LANES DISASTER OVER THERE.

THAT SIGN THAT'S BEEN THERE 59 YEARS, IT WAS STARTED IN 1957.

TOOK TWO YEARS TO BUILD THAT MONSTROSITY.

IT WEIGHS.

OH, AT LEAST I SPOKE TO THE GAS COMPANY LAST NIGHT JUST TO POSE A LOAN OR A TON.

OH, ANYWAYS.

I WAS JUST DOING IT FOR $500.

I'M AN ARTIST, A SIGN PAINTER BY TRADE, AND I CAN PROVE THIS BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT.

I CAN GET A REFERENCE FROM CAESARS PALACE IN LAS VEGAS, NEVADA, AND I'M SURE THEY'LL SAY, GLAD TO HELP MICHAEL BREAK A LEG.

YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT BLOWING ANY SMOKE HERE TO THIS COMMITTEE.

A LOT OF SENTIMENTAL VALUE IN THIS SIGN.

IT NEEDS TO BE ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS TO BEGIN IT WITH WHITE.

I WAS GOING TO LEAVE THE SOREHEADS IN IT.

YOU COULDN'T SEE THAT FROM A DISTANCE.

IT WAS GOING TO ADVERTISE EXQUISITE.

AND I WAS GOING TO HANG A HEART AROUND THE BOWLING PIN.

MY CHILDHOOD SWEETHEARTS FACE UP IN THE CAP OF THE BOWLING PIN.

AND THE ONLY REASON THAT I NEEDED THE WHITE TO BEGIN WITH WAS THE LITTLE FINGERS.

THERE'S AN OPTICAL ILLUSION THERE IN THAT EIGHT BY EIGHT BOWLING BALL.

THERE'S A LITTLE OPTICAL ILLUSION.

AND MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WHETHER YOU ALLOW ME TO DO THIS OR NOT, I WILL ASSURE YOU THAT YOU'LL GET YOUR MONEY'S WORTH.

IF YOU'RE GOING TO INVEST IN THAT SIGN, YOU'LL GET THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE.

AND IT'LL TAKE ME A YEAR.

I CAN'T LIGHT IT UP UNTIL NEXT SPRING.

AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE.

NOBODY HAS GIVEN ME ANY OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE IN 1959.

I ONLY KNOW THAT IT WAS BEGAN EXCUSE ME, IN 1957, TOOK TWO YEARS TO CREATE THAT SIGN.

AND IT WAS HAULED OUT THERE.

IT'S A MONSTROSITY.

IT PROBABLY DOES WEIGH ALL OF 7,000 POUNDS AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PLUCK IT OUT OF THE GROUND.

I'D LEAVE IT AT THE I DECIDED LAST NIGHT THE BEST THING TO DO IS TO LEAVE IT AS THE AMARILLO PIECE OF SIGN OF THE BOWLING ALLEY. I MEAN, SOMEBODY MIGHT COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT NAME FOR IT, BUT I WILL ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOUR SIGN NEEDS REPAIR, I'M THE MAN TO SEE.

SO I YOU KNOW, AND AT MY AGE TODAY, I'M SURE MY HEALTH WILL HOLD OUT ANOTHER YEAR.

BUT I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH THE DRAINAGE OVER THERE.

I'VE TRIED TO CALL THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS TO SEE I AT MY OWN EXPENSE.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW I WILL FIND OUT WHAT THE IF THERE IS A AQUEDUCT GOING THROUGH THERE BECAUSE OF THE DRAINAGE.

THAT'S WHY IT LEANED IT TOOK THAT LEAN.

BUT I SAID TO MYSELF, I'VE BEEN THERE 50, 65 YEARS, WHY BOTHER.

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BECAUSE THAT IS, IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO TRY TO STRAIGHTEN THAT SIGN UP.

AND WHY PLUCK IT OUT OF THE GROUND? IT'LL GO ANOTHER 67 YEARS.

IF ANYBODY WAS TO TAKE AND MONITOR IT AND SEE IF IT LEANS ANY MORE OR IF THAT DUCK THAT GETS THAT RIVER OF WATER THAT FLOWS THROUGH EAST RIDGE BOWLING ALLEY, IF SOMEBODY IF IT GETS FLOODED, THAT THAT DRAINAGE GETS PLUGGED UP, WHICH CHRIST, THERE IS PROBABLY ALL.

WELL, SIR, WE APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION.

THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT I KNOW ABOUT YET.

I WOULD PROBABLY WEIGH ON THE SIDE IT'S A PRIVATE SIGN.

GREAT DEAL OF TIME INVESTED.

OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER RIGHT HERE, ANDREW FREEMAN MAY COULD TRY TO DIRECT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY.

JESSE FRIMMER IS NEXT.

AND ON DECK AFTER MR. FRIMMER WILL BE MIKE FISHER.

JESSE FRIMMER 5723 SOUTH [INAUDIBLE].

I'M JUST HERE TO COMPLIMENT YOU GUYS ON WORKING THROUGH THE BUDGET, BUT I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT WE'RE STILL GOING TO RAISE THE REVENUE COMING OFF OF OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH MY RESIDENCE.

MY RESIDENCE IS LOCKED IN BECAUSE I'M 83, SO I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY INCREASES ON MINE BECAUSE OF PROPERTY VALUE.

BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS OVER BUSINESSES LIKE YOURS.

COLE AND DON, YOU GUYS HAVE BUSINESSES.

YOUR RATES ARE GOING TO GO UP WITH NO EXEMPTIONS.

YOU'RE NOT EXEMPTED FROM THESE RATE INCREASES.

AND WE ARE SEEING A REDUCTION IN THE ACTUAL COST PER HUNDRED FOR THE BASIC PROPERTY TAX VALUE.

BUT WE ARE SEEING AN INCREASE BASED ON THE PROPERTY VALUES WHICH IMPACTS ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES HERE IN TOWN.

AND MY CONCERN IS THAT SINCE OUR BUSINESSES HAVE TO PAY MORE TAXES, THEN WE, THE CITIZENS AS CUSTOMERS, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE INCREASED COSTS TO THE CUSTOMER BECAUSE THE BUSINESSES HAVE TO PUT THAT BACK ON THEIR COST OF DOING BUSINESS, WHICH INCREASES SALES TAX.

SO IF IT'S GOING TO INCREASE YOUR SALES TAX, THEN WHY DO YOU WANT TO KEEP RAISING THE COST OF LIVING IN AMARILLO? NOW WE KEEP DOING THIS AND WE HAVE ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE BRINGING UP ON OUR UTILITY COSTS.

WE'RE GOING TO BE RAISING THE COST OF DRAINAGE BY 5%, AND THAT 5% IS ANOTHER LITTLE NICKEL AND DIME OUT OF EACH PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS ANY WATER METER AT THEIR BUILDING OR THAT THEY OWN PROPERTY IN TOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THAT INCREASE AND THAT LITTLE NICKEL OR DIME COMING OUT EACH MONTH STARTS ADDING UP OVER THE YEAR, PLUS THE COSTS IN THE PROPERTY TAX.

AND THEN WE COME UP WITH THE DRAINAGE FEE NO I MEAN SOLID, THE SOLID WASTE FEE.

SOLID WASTE FEE IS REALLY FRUSTRATING ME BECAUSE WE HAVE INTRODUCED CURBSIDE CARTS FROM THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

A DUMPSTER IS BEING ARGUED THAT IT HAS TO BE REPLACED IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS ON SOME KIND OF INCREASE BECAUSE THE COSTS OF REPLACING DUMPSTERS.

I'VE HAD TWO DUMPSTERS AT MY LOCATION FOR 24 YEARS.

THEY HAVE NOT REPLACED.

THEY'VE BEEN OLD DUMPSTERS THAT HAVE BEEN REPAIRED.

NOW, THE COST GIVEN ON EACH OF OUR DUMPSTERS IS FOR ME, I'M PAYING 22.26.

EXCUSE ME, I'M PAYING 21.20 A MONTH SALES TAX ON TOP OF THAT, IT'S ANOTHER IS ANOTHER $1.75.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO RAISE IT.

IF 5%, WE'RE GOING TO RAISE IT TO $22 EACH MONTH AND $1.84 FOR SALES TAX.

IF YOU ADD UP THE NUMBERS, THERE'S FOUR CUSTOMERS ON EACH DUMPSTER THAT THE COST FOR EACH DUMPSTER IS $289 A YEAR.

BUT FOR FOUR PEOPLE ON THAT, PROPERTY, IT'S $1156 THAT THAT DUMPSTER IS REVENUE TO THAT LOCATION.

IT TAKES ABOUT FIVE MINUTES FOR A DUMP TRUCK TO PICK UP, DUMP FOR FOUR HOUSES.

BUT YOU PUT A CURBSIDE CART, IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES TO DO TWO HOUSES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO PICK UP 2 TO 3 CURBSIDE CARTS.

SO YOUR RATES FOR DUMPSTERS SHOULD NOT GO UP JUST BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU CAN AFFORD IT, I THINK YOU SHOULD REEVALUATE THE INCREASE FOR SOLID WASTE ON DUMPSTERS. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. FRIMMER.

THANK YOU SIR. OKAY.

MIKE FISHER AND ON DECK AFTER HIM WILL BE CLAUDETTE SMITH.

HELLO, MIKE FISHER LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS OF AMARILLO.

I'D LIKE TO SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GUY WITH THE SEPTIC SYSTEM.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE HE WENT, BUT I'VE, I THINK THAT THE WHAT DO THEY CALL THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.

I THINK THOSE ARE WEAPONIZED DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE ATTACKING SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY.

I HAD A SEARCH WARRANT SERVED ON MY BUSINESS.

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YOU GUYS MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS.

I'M WORKING ON THIS FOR COLE.

I HAD A SEARCH WARRANT BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH TO LOOK AT MY SEPTIC SYSTEM.

BUT YOU'RE WONDERING WHY? WHY? WHY WERE THEY EVEN ON MY PROPERTY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS? THEY RUN THE RANDALL POTTER ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.

SO THEY SHOW UP OUT OF MY PROPERTY BECAUSE THE GUY SAID IT WAS A BUSINESS CHANGE.

SO HE CAME OUT ON PROPERTY, THEY HAD NO TRESPASSING SIGNS AND HE SNOOPED AROUND AND HE FOUND SOME PIPES THAT WERE STICKING UP.

AND HE ASSUMED THAT THEY WERE PART OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEM.

AND THEN WHEN HE SHOWED UP WITH A SEARCH WARRANT, I HAD ONE OF MY GUYS GET A SHOVEL AND HE SAID THERE WAS RAW SEWAGE.

AND HE LIED TO THE JUDGE, SAID THERE WAS RAW SEWAGE AND EXPOSED DANGER TO THE PUBLIC.

WE GO BACK THERE AND ON VIDEO, I HAD IT VIDEO TAPED AND I ASKED THE SHERIFF DEPUTY, I WENT DOWN THE LIST AND I SAID, DO YOU SEE ANY OF THESE THINGS? HE SAID, NO. SO I HAD ONE OF MY GUYS GO GET A SHOVEL.

HE DUG UP THE PIPES THAT WERE JUST THEY WERE DEAD END.

THEY WERE JUST BURIED PIPES IN THE GROUND.

THIS GUY'S OUT THERE FOR NO REASON ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT HE DOESN'T BELONG.

AND GOT A SEARCH WARRANT WITH LIES.

THIS GUY. AND THEN THEY'RE OVER HERE.

THEY'RE JUST HURTING PEOPLE.

THAT'S ALL THEY'RE DOING. WHAT WERE THEY DOING WITH ME? THEY WERE JUST TRYING TO HURT ME.

AND THEN I MADE HIM LOOK LIKE A FOOL.

AND THEY'RE STILL DOING IT.

I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS HEARING SOME OF THIS STUFF.

AND AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE PURPOSELY IT'S SOME KIND OF MASTER PLAN TO JUST MESS WITH PEOPLE.

I'M HERE FOR 8 W WHERE WE'RE SELLING $4 MILLION IN RETAIL SPACE ACROSS THE STREET FROM HERE FOR $2 MILLION DOLLARS.

WE'RE GIVING A FIRE SALE HALF PRICE.

AND WHILE ON THE, YOU KNOW ON THE PAPER AND FROM THE STREET VIEW IT LOOKS LIKE WE PROBABLY SHOULD DO THAT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS KNOW THIS MAN WAS PART OF IT OVER HERE, LES SIMPSON.

HE'S THE ONE THAT WAS PART OF THIS WHEN WE BUILT THIS STUFF.

AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MASTER PLAN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING TO BUILD THIS PROPERTY AND NEVER RENT IT OUT AND THEN SELL IT TO SOMEBODY, THIS PROPERTY WILL PROBABLY SELL TO THIS WHOEVER THIS IS FOR 2 MILLION.

AND THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER SALE PROBABLY THE NEXT DAY.

IT HAPPENS A LOT.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE TO THE WARES OF AMARILLO NATIONAL.

IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEBODY THAT'S CONNECTED WITH THEM OR IT'S GOING TO BE GINGER NELSON AND KEVIN NELSON AND THEIR FRIENDS.

BUT THIS IS A FRONT MAN TRANSACTION.

THINK ABOUT THIS.

WHY DID THEY PUT IN PARKING METERS LIKE THE DAY OF LIKE WHEN THEY PUT OUT THE FOR LEASE SIGNS? I THINK THEY PUT THE PARKING METERS UP.

GO LOOK ONLINE.

PEOPLE HAVE THESE THESE VIDEO CHANNELS WHERE THEY'RE DRIVING DOWN IN AMARILLO AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? THERE'S IS THIS A GHOST TOWN? THOSE PARKING METERS HAVE MADE OUR WHOLE DOWNTOWN LOOK LIKE IT'S THERE'S NOTHING IT'S NOTHING GOING ON.

AND THEY'RE LAUGHING AT US.

LIKE WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWNTOWN, YOU'RE THINKING, MAN, IS IT A HOLIDAY? AND YOU LOOK AND IT'S NOT A BANKING HOLIDAY.

AND THERE'S NOBODY PARKED ON THE STREETS, MAN.

WE NEED THOSE STREETS TO LOOK BUSY IN BIG CITIES.

THEY PAY PLANT CAR BUSINESSES TO PLANT CARS AROUND THEIR BUSINESSES TO MAKE THEM LOOK BUSY.

LOOK IT UP. I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP.

WE ARE PURPOSELY MAKING OUR CITY LOOK LIKE A GHOST TOWN.

AND WHY DO YOU THINK THEY DID THAT TO THAT RETAIL SPACE OVER THERE? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD SELL IT TO SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN PRE-PLANNED.

THIS SHOULD GO TO THE MARKET.

THIS SHOULD GO.

AND I'M OKAY WITH SELL IT FOR 2 MILLION BUCKS.

BUT AFTER IT'S BEEN ON THE MARKET, AFTER IT'S BEEN ADVERTISED FOR SALE.

2 MILLION OUR BEST OFFER.

MIKE, I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND TALKING ON THAT.

WE'LL BRING THAT TOPIC BACK UP.

I'VE GOT TO GO BUT I'LL WATCH YOU. OKAY.

I'M GOING TO WATCH CLAUDETTE SPEAK.

AND I'M. THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE, MAN.

GIVE YOU GUYS A B B+ SO FAR.

THANK YOU. [LAUGHTER] HEY, LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT'S BETTER THAN HE GAVE THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

SO THAT'S IMPROVEMENT EVEN THOUGH IT'S A B.

AFTERNOON CLAUDETTE.

HI. HOW ARE YOU ALL? GOOD, THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, MIKE SAID A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT I WAS ALREADY GOING TO SAY.

I HAVE SHORT PEOPLE PROBLEMS WITH THIS MICROPHONE.

I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM 8 W FIRST.

I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS, IS I KNOW THAT THIS RETAIL SPACE HAS BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR SEVEN YEARS AND THAT WE'VE HAD IT LISTED FOR LEASE.

BUT I DON'T THINK TO MY KNOWLEDGE AT ANY POINT IT'S BEEN LISTED FOR SALE.

SO I GUESS I AM CONCERNED THAT WE'RE TAKING A 50% LOSS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY DUE TO THAT.

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I MEAN, INEVITABLY WE'RE GOING TO SUFFER A LOT OF LOSSES DUE TO THE DECISIONS OF THIS PREVIOUS MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND EVEN, YOU KNOW, THE ADMINISTRATION PRIOR TO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO SUFFER A LOT OF LOSSES DUE TO THAT.

BUT I JUST THINK THAT I'M WONDERING WHY IT IS THAT WE'RE JUMPING STRAIGHT TO A FIRE SALE ON THIS PROPERTY AND WE'RE NOT LISTING IT ON THE MARKET.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE GET RID OF THE PAID PARKING OUT THERE, PUT IT ON THE MARKET FOR SALE AND SEE IF WE CAN GET MORE.

I MEAN, WE'RE RAISING OUR TAXES, WHICH I DON'T AGREE WITH.

IF I WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT DAIS, I WOULD NOT BE VOTING FOR THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THERE'S CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

BUT IF WE WEREN'T, YOU KNOW, CONDUCTING FIRE SALES ON ALL THE PROPERTY THAT WE UNFORTUNATELY NOW OWN, WE MIGHT NOT HAVE TO RAISE OUR PROPERTY TAXES.

SO I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, ARE WE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS OR ARE WE JUST GOING THROUGH THE MOTIONS AND ARE WE TAKING ADVICE FROM, YOU KNOW, THE ARMY THAT THE OLD ADMINISTRATION HAS EMBEDDED IN THESE IN WITHIN CITY HALL? SO THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE THINK ABOUT THOSE THINGS WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS.

LIKE MIKE SAID, I DON'T THINK HE'S A CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

I THINK THAT THIS WHOLE DEAL WITH THIS RETAIL SPACE WAS SET UP FROM THE BEGINNING TO FAIL SO THAT SOMEBODY I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN COME IN AND BUY IT FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR BECAUSE WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU PUT THE PAID PARKING OUT THERE AND THINK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO LEASE IT FOR THAT ASTRONOMICAL AMOUNT THAT YOU HAD IT LISTED PER SQUARE FOOT? THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE UNLESS YOU JUST WANTED IT TO FAIL SO THAT YOU COULD COME JUMP IN AND PARTICIPATE IN A FIRE SALE.

SO I YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOME REALTORS HAVE ADVISED THAT THAT'S THE BEST DEAL THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET.

I MEAN, WHAT REALTORS, THE REALTORS IN THE REAL ESTATE GROUP THAT'S PURCHASING IT FROM US, I MEAN, OF COURSE, THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT'S THE BEST DEAL YOU'RE GOING TO GET BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUY IT FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR.

I MEAN, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

LET ME SEE HERE. WHAT ELSE WAS I GOING TO TALK ABOUT? YEAH. SO IN WHAT I WOULD HAVE SUGGESTED THAT WE DO IF I WAS HERE, I WOULD HAVE PROBABLY GOT ADVICE FROM A BROKER THAT WAS OUT OF TOWN BECAUSE A LOT OF THE REALTORS IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS HERE ARE ALL VERY EMBEDDED WITH EACH OTHER.

I MEAN, EVERYONE'S VERY CONNECTED HERE.

SO I WOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN OUTSIDE OPINION AS TO WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY WORTH, WOULD HAVE DONE AWAY WITH THE PAID PARKING AND ACTUALLY PUT IT ON THE MARKET AND GIVEN IT A CHANCE. THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION WAS ITEM 7 Q I DON'T KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF IT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS WERE JUST BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.

YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN REALLY BUSY, BUT WE'RE PAYING THE MARY COYNE PERSON AGAIN FOR ADVERTISING, FOR THE AIRPORT AND FOR TO MANAGE THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES LIKE $100,000 OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN, THAT JUST SEEMS BIZARRE.

LIKE I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT ORGANIZATION AT ALL.

I'VE LOOKED INTO IT. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST AN ELDERLY PERSON OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.

IT SEEMS LIKE A FRONT SITUATION, LIKE A FRONT MAN SITUATION.

IT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO BE PAYING SOMEONE TO MANAGE YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA.

I MEAN, HELL, PAY ME HALF OF THAT AND I'LL MANAGE THE SOCIAL MEDIA, YOU KNOW? I MEAN, WHAT DO WE NEED TO ADVERTISE THE AIRPORT FOR? I MEAN, THAT'S LIKE A CITY THAT HAS ONE HOSPITAL AND WE'RE ADVERTISING FOR THE HOSPITAL.

EVERYBODY USES THE AIRPORT.

WHY DO WE NEED TO ADVERTISE FOR THAT ANYWAY? OKAY. THANKS FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU, CLAUDETTE. WE'LL ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE.

THAT WAS OUR LAST.

THAT'S OUR LAST. THAT WAS OUR LAST REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT SPEAKER.

WE HAVE FOUR THAT SENT WRITTEN COMMENTS.

AND SO WE'VE PROVIDED THOSE TO COUNCIL AND WE'LL UPLOAD THOSE INTO OUR AGENDA PORTAL.

HEY, WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR SPEAKING AND BRINGING SOME INFORMATION AND TALKING ON IMPORTANT TOPICS.

DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TODAY BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH OUR MEETING? YES, SIR. IF YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, PLEASE, WHEN YOU GET THERE.

SHARE YOUR NAME AND IF YOU LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS.

MY NAME IS RAUL DAVID ROSAS.

EVERYBODY KNOWS ME AS DAVID.

I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE BARRIO NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING COMMITTEE.

AND THIS IS MRS. GENTRY POWELL. SHE'S ALSO WITH OUR ORGANIZATION.

I WILL BE LEAVING HERE SOON BECAUSE I'M TAKING A LUNCH HOUR AND I THINK IT'S GONE OVER.

BUT I'M HERE TO THANK YOU AND RECOGNIZE ITEM 7 W THE CONSIDERATION OF PURCHASE OF 0.56 ACRES OF LAND IN THE MIRA SUBDIVISION LOCATED AT 918 SOUTH HOUSTON STREET.

THIS IS A LOCATION FOR A NEW POCKET PARK IN THE AREA OF AMARILLO, KNOWN AS THE BARRIO EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND WEST OF ROSS STREET.

THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN FOR SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE COMMITTEE, I WANT TO SAY ABOUT 2017.

[00:35:07]

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU ALL PERSONALLY FOR THE CONSIDERATION.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, AS IT'S SAID MANY TIMES, THAT IS MY OLD STOMPING GROUND.

I GREW UP IN THAT PART OF TOWN AND I'M VERY INTERESTED IN SEEING IT REVITALIZED, CLEANED UP.

AND IF SOMETHING COMES TO MIND OUT OF AN OLD COUNTRY SONG ABOUT A KID ON A BIKE AND JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE, THAT WAS ME.

I DO NOT LIVE IN THAT PART OF TOWN ANYMORE.

BUT I HAVE MANY FAMILY MEMBERS AND IT IS A PART OF AMARILLO THAT IS DEAR TO MY HEART.

I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE CONSIDERATION AND ONE MORE THING THAT HAS BOTHERED ME FOR A LONG TIME.

BEING HERE NOW IS AN INCONVENIENCE FOR ME BEING PAST A NORMAL LUNCH HOUR.

AND I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER FOR THE WHOLE CITIZENRY OF AMARILLO TO MOVE THE MEETINGS TO ABOUT 7:00 WHERE THE TAXPAYER CAN ATTEND AND I WILL BE LEAVING.

YOU HAVE A BIG AGENDA HERE, SO THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU. AND I ALSO RECOGNIZE THE CHIEF OF POLICE.

I'VE SEEN HIM BACK THERE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING CARE OF MY CITY.

THANK YOU, DAVID. APPRECIATE ALL YOUR WORK OUT THERE.

WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BEFORE WE MOVE ON? COUNCILMAN. HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING? AFTERNOON, SIR? WE'RE JUST GOING TO MAKE THIS REAL QUICK AND HURRY.

WE HAD A PUMPER WAS SPEAKING ABOUT SEPTIC TANKS.

NOW I WANT TO THROW IN.

WE ALSO PUMP GREASE TRAPS, MUD PITS.

IT'S A HALF TO HALF BUSINESS NOW, WE UNDERSTAND.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PEOPLE THAT ALWAYS CHECK OUT THE RESTAURANTS ABOUT THE GREASE TRAPS BEING PUMPED.

IT'S GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE LEAVE A MANIFEST SAYING THAT WE DID PUMP IT.

IT'S BEEN PUMPED EVERY SIX MONTHS, EVERY EIGHT MONTHS, SOME OR EVERY MONTH.

BUT THE CITY OF AMARILLO DOES NOT SUPPLY A PLACE TO DUMP THIS GREASE.

WE HAVE TO TAKE IT TO CANYON, I BELIEVE REPUBLIC.

I DON'T KNOW THE THINGS BEHIND THE SCENE, BUT I KNOW.

[LAUGHTER] REVENUE CAN BE FOR AMARILLO, TEXAS.

WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO TAKE IT TO LUBBOCK.

WE'RE FINDING OTHER PLACES TO TAKE LOCAL MONEY OUT OF AMARILLO.

SO WITH THESE GREASE TRAPS THAT NEED TO BE PUMPED DUE TO HEALTH OR ENVIRONMENTAL, THEY ALWAYS GO IN THERE AND CHECK.

YOU'RE LOOKING REAL QUICK EXAMPLE.

IF A TRUCK CAN HOLD 3000 GALLONS OR 2500 GALLONS.

YOU'RE LOOKING AROUND $3,000 $4,000 A LOAD.

JUST FROM ONE PUMPER.

ONE TRUCK.

IF HE'S THERE EVERY OTHER DAY.

THINK OF THE REVENUE THAT YOU CAN HAVE IN A MONTH SUPPLYING A LANDFILL FOR THE CITY OF AMARILLO FOR ALL THE RESTAURANTS TO DUMP THEIR GREASE.

WE KNOW IT'S GETTING REAL BAD.

WE'RE LIKE YOU GOT TO HAVE IT PUMPED WITHIN TWO DAYS, THREE DAYS, OR THEY'LL SHUT YOU DOWN BECAUSE YOU NEED IT PUMPED.

WHERE WE PUMP OUT IN CANYON THEY CAN SAY YOU CAN'T PUMP TODAY.

WE HAVE TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.

IT'S NOT LIKE BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, MAN.

YOU GET A FULL TRUCK, YOU GO, YOU GO DUMP, COME BACK THE FOLLOWING DAY, FINISH IT UP.

WE COULD HAVE $5,000 THAT WE MADE IN OUR POCKET OR FOR THE COMPANY.

GO BACK, COME BACK ANOTHER FIVE.

YOU KNOW, IT WAS JUST AN ALL DAY DEAL.

NOW IT'S YOU GO MAKE $5000, YOU CAN'T COME DUMP.

YOU GOT TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.

AND GUESS WHAT? YOU'RE SHUT DOWN UNTIL YOU PUMP OUT MONDAY.

YOU CAN'T DUMP UNTIL FRIDAY.

IT'S GETTING RIDICULOUS.

AND NOW WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL SAYING, HEY, YOU NEED A PUMP, IF THEY'VE GOT OTHER PUMPERS THAT ARE FULL, THEIR TANKS ARE FULL, NOBODY CAN GO PUMP OUT YOUR LOCAL AMARILLO RESTAURANT. SO NOW EVERYBODY'S STUCK.

THEN WHEN YOU GO DUMP, THEY CAN RAISE UP THE PRICE FROM LET'S SAY IT WAS $0.50 YESTERDAY, $0.60, $0.70 THE NEXT DAY. WELL, GUESS WHAT? WE JUST ATE IT.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

AND JUST TO PUT IT IN YOUR EAR.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

COULD WE GET YOUR NAME, PLEASE?

[00:40:01]

I'M SORRY. ANDY.

ANDY NAVARRO. ANDY NAVARRO. YES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER HANDS.

ANYONE ELSE THAT'S HERE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS.

[6.A. Review agenda items for regular meeting and attachments; ]

ITEM 6 A, DO I HAVE ANYTHING THAT COUNCIL NEEDS BEFORE WE JUMP OFF INTO THIS AGENDA? NO, SIR. OKAY.

[6.B. Discuss American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) Funding Allocations]

ITEM 6 B, DISCUSS AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT, THE ARPA FUNDING ALLOCATIONS.

MRS. LAURA STORRS IS COMING UP TO TALK US THROUGH THE REMAINING AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT ARE LEFT.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE AND ALSO SENT QUITE A LENGTHY EMAIL TO YOU ALL WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION LATE LAST WEEK, SO CERTAINLY CAN COVER ANY OF THAT IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

SO I'M GOING TO GO. I'M GOING TO TRY TO GO QUICKLY THROUGH THIS.

SO PLEASE STOP ME IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION.

SO FIRST UP, SO THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT OF 2021, WE REFER TO THAT USUALLY AS ARPA.

IT PROVIDES A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY FOR STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO MAKE STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS IN LONG LIVED ASSETS, REBUILD RESERVES TO ENHANCE FINANCIAL STABILITY AND COVER TEMPORARY OPERATING SHORTFALLS UNTIL ECONOMIC CONDITIONS AND OPERATIONS NORMALIZE.

WHICH SEEMS A LITTLE INTERESTING NOW THAT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT REMOVED FROM THIS TIME PERIOD.

BUT THIS WAS A HUGE INVESTMENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

THERE WAS 39, JUST UNDER $39.7 MILLION DOLLARS THAT CAME AS A DIRECT DISTRIBUTION IN TWO INSTALLMENTS TO THE CITY OF AMARILLO, HALF OF IT RECEIVED ON MAY 19TH OF 2021 OF 19.8 MILLION, AND THEN THE OTHER HALF OF 19.8 MILLION WAS RECEIVED ON JUNE 6TH, 2022.

SO THE RESTRICTIONS ON THIS, WE MUST HAVE THE FUNDS ENCUMBERED BY THE END OF 2024 AND SPENT BY THE END OF 2026.

WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST WEB PAGE ON THIS ON THE CITY OF AMARILLO WEBSITE.

IF YOU GO OUT TO AMARILLO.GOV AND SEARCH JUST FOR ARPA, IT'S THE FIRST THING THAT WILL POP UP.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION IN CASE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO GO READ A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS.

SO IN THE TWO INSTALLMENTS WE WORKED WITH COUNCIL, THERE WERE RESOLUTIONS THAT WERE ACTUALLY THREE RESOLUTIONS THAT COUNCIL ADOPTED.

THE FIRST WAS FOR THE FIRST INSTALLMENT, THEN A SECOND ONE FOR THE SECOND INSTALLMENT, AND THEN THERE WAS A REVISION ON THE SECOND INSTALLMENT.

SO WHAT I HAVE HERE ARE THE CURRENT ALLOCATIONS AND JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THOSE.

SO THE FIRST ONE WAS REVENUE RECOVERY OF THE FIRST INSTALLMENT WAS 11.2 MILLION AND THAT'S FULLY SPENT.

SO WE'VE ALREADY FULLY UTILIZED THOSE DOLLARS.

THEN THE NEXT ONE WAS INVESTMENTS IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO COUNCIL APPROVED 6 MILLION TOWARDS BROADBAND AND DIGITAL LITERACY.

SO QUITE OF THAT IS ALREADY GOING FORWARD AND THERE'S ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF OF IT REMAINING THAT'S STILL IN PROCESS THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE TIME PERIOD FOR ARPA.

SO ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND ECONOMIC IMPACT, WE PUT FOUR NEW PARK PLAYGROUNDS IN AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF SOME INFORMATION THERE.

THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN INSTALLED AND FULLY PAID FOR AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

SO THE NEXT PIECE OF THE FIRST INSTALLMENT, WE HAD SOME DOLLARS THAT WENT TOWARDS LIFE PACKS FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S BEEN FULLY UTILIZED.

WE AUTHORIZED PARAMEDIC TRAINING OF 258,000.

AND SO THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT.

THAT'S CERTAINLY A PROGRAM THAT WILL SPAN MULTIPLE YEARS.

AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 100,000 LEFT THAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH ON THE FIRST INSTALLMENT.

THEN WE HAVE THE CRIME CENTER EQUIPMENT.

SO THAT IS THE AMARILLO REGIONAL CRIME CENTER.

SO THE ARCC THAT WE REFER TO AND THERE'S 750,000 THAT WE'VE SET THAT WAS SET ASIDE FROM ARPA FUNDS FOR THAT PROJECT.

THEY'VE BEEN WORKING THROUGH DESIGN AND I THINK THEY'RE GETTING WE'RE GETTING CLOSE ON THAT.

WE'LL BE BRINGING AN AWARD TO Y'ALL BEFORE TOO LONG.

RELATED TO THAT AND YOU'LL SEE SOME MORE ON THIS HERE IN A SECOND.

THEN WE HAD THE COMING HOME LITTER CREW.

AND SO THIS WAS A PROGRAM TO HELP TRANSITION SOME OF OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY BACK INTO THE WORKFORCE.

AND SO JASON'S RIDDLESPURGER IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT.

SO THERE WAS 250,000 AUTHORIZED FOR THIS PROGRAM, AND THERE'S ABOUT 144,000 REMAINING OF THAT 250.

THEN THERE WAS 100,000 FOR CVB TOURISM SUPPORT, AND THAT'S BEEN FULLY UTILIZED.

AND THEN THERE WAS SOME ASSISTANCE PUT ASIDE FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.

THERE WAS A ROBUST PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH.

THERE WAS 500,000 IN THIS INSTALLMENT AND 100 IN THE NEXT.

AND OF THAT THERE'S 100 AND ALMOST 138,000 LEFT TO REIMBURSE.

IT'S ALL BEEN AWARDED.

SO IT'S JUST WAITING FOR THOSE GROUPS TO FINISH THROUGH THOSE PROGRAMS.

[00:45:04]

SECOND INSTALLMENT REVENUE RECOVERY, AGAIN, FULLY UTILIZED AT 14.3 MILLION.

SO THE NEXT ONE DOWN IS UNDER PUBLIC HEALTH AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS.

THIS IS ONE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING.

THERE WAS 100 I'M SORRY, $1 MILLION DOLLARS THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR PARKS LIGHTING.

AND THAT'S ACTUALLY BEEN BROUGHT BACK ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

BUT WE HAVE A POTENTIAL OPTION THAT COULD BE KIND OF TEAMED UP WITH THIS PROJECT IF COUNCIL WOULD LIKE.

AND AGAIN, NONE OF THIS HAS BEEN AWARDED OR SPENT AT THIS POINT.

BUT THERE ARE, I THINK, THREE PARKS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT SOME LIGHTING IN THAT CERTAINLY GOES TOWARDS PUBLIC SAFETY.

THIS WOULD BE IN LOW TO MODERATE INCOME AREA PARKS THAT CERTAINLY I'VE SPOKE WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AT LENGTH ABOUT THIS, AND THIS WAS A RECOMMENDED PROJECT FROM HIS STANDPOINT AS WELL, BECAUSE LIGHTING DOES HELP WITH PUBLIC SAFETY IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.

SO WE CAN TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

AND ON ITEM 8 T ON THE AGENDA HERE IN A SECOND.

THEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WERE APPROVED KIND OF TO MEET THEIR NEEDS.

AND ALMOST ALL OF THAT'S BEEN UTILIZED EXCEPT FOR ABOUT 4000.

AND THEN ANOTHER ROUND OF FIRE PARAMEDIC TRAINING OF 522.

AND SO ALL OF THAT IS STILL IN PROCESS AT THIS POINT.

SO THEN WE KIND OF MOVE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AREA.

THERE ARE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO OVER IN THEIR FACILITIES RELATED TO SOME VENTILATION, SOME ACADEMY ROOMS. AND SO WE ARE FINISHING DESIGN ON THAT AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT AWARD FORWARD SOON AS WELL.

AGAIN, SOME MORE POLICE EQUIPMENT AND MOST OF THAT IS ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

SOME OF IT WILL BE BROUGHT FORWARD IF IT'S OVER 50,000 FOR AWARD TO YOU ALL.

OTHERWISE IT WILL MOVE FORWARD.

IF IT'S BELOW THE 50,000, UNLESS WE GET DIFFERENT DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL AGAIN, SOME COMING HOME LITTER CREW PREP ACADEMY DOLLARS OF 250 THAT HAS NOT BEEN SPENT YET.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE HOMELESS PALLET SHELTER.

YOU GUYS KNOW THAT AS TRANSFORMATION PARK.

SO THIS IS THE ARPA FUNDING THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO HELP WITH THAT PROJECT, JUST OVER 1.1 MILLION.

THEY ARE IN THE FINAL STAGES OF DESIGN AS WELL AND LOOKING TO COME FORWARD PROBABLY IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS FOR SOME AWARD ON THAT PIECE AS WELL.

THEN THIS IS THE LAST 100,000 ON THE SENIOR CITIZEN PROJECTS AND WE'RE WORKING THROUGH TO REIMBURSE THAT LAST REMAINING AMOUNT.

AND THEN QUICKLY, WE HAD WE HAVE FOUR NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS AND 100,000 WAS ALLOCATED TO EACH.

I SENT YOU ALL SOME DETAILED INFORMATION.

EMILY KOLLER AND HER TEAM HAD PROVIDED SOME GREAT INFORMATION ON WHAT THESE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS ARE HOPING TO ACHIEVE.

ALL ARE IN PROCESS.

ALL ARE MOVING FORWARD AND AS NEEDED.

WE WILL HAVE AWARDS COMING SOON.

SO THE LAST THING HERE IS THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT WITH ARPA.

AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE IT OBLIGATED BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR AND THEN SPENT BY THE END OF 2026.

I TALKED WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE GROUP, AND WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, SOME DOLLARS THAT WE THINK MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE REALLOCATED JUST BASED ON CURRENT SPENDING, POSSIBLY ABOUT 100,000 FROM THE BROADBAND AND DIGITAL LITERACY PROJECT ALLOCATION, AND THEN MAYBE ANOTHER 200,000 FROM THAT COMING HOME LITTER CREW.

IT HADN'T LAUNCHED OFF QUITE AS QUICKLY AS WE HAD THOUGHT.

AND SO MAY NEED TO REALLOCATE SOME OF THIS JUST TO GET IT SPENT IN TIME.

AND SO WE HAVE A LIST HERE THAT FIRST ONE, UNDER THE POTENTIAL ALLOCATIONS, THIS CAME AS KIND OF A RECOMMENDATION ALSO FROM PUBLIC SAFETY THAT AS WE'RE WORKING ON PUTTING LIGHTING IN THESE PUBLIC AREAS, IN THESE PARKS, THAT IF WE COULD PUT IN SOME CAMERAS THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME VIDEO FOOTAGE BACK INTO THE ARCC, IT WOULD CERTAINLY HELP OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT A LOT TO JUST HELP WITH INCREASED PUBLIC SAFETY IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD BRING BACK AS A SEPARATE AWARD.

BUT WE WOULD INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE LIGHTING PROJECT THAT WE HAVE LATER IN THE AGENDA TODAY.

AND THAT'S THOSE AREAS WHERE MEDI PARK, SAN JACINTO NEIGHBORHOOD AND SAM HOUSTON PARK ALSO WE'VE HEARD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SOME OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GIVING FREE BUS RIDES FOR THE HOMELESS TO GET THEM TO THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED, THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ELIGIBLE THROUGH THIS THROUGH THE ARPA FUNDING.

WE COULD LOOK AT INSTALLING A TRAFFIC LIGHT IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.

THEY'RE VERY SPECIFIC ON KIND OF AREAS THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS FUNDING COULD GO TOWARDS.

WE COULD ALWAYS PUT MORE FUNDING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANS.

THEY HAVE LONG LISTS OF PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH.

[00:50:02]

SO THAT'S ALWAYS AN OPTION.

AND THEN WE COULD LOOK AT SOME DRAINAGE DATA WHICH WOULD HELP ENHANCE SOME OF THE MONITORING AND THE LIKE, REMOTE CONTROL OF THOSE PUMPS THAT WE HAVE CERTAINLY SEEN A NEED FOR THIS YEAR.

AND ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE WITH WHAT THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT HAS SAID IS APPROPRIATE.

AND SO WE DO CERTAINLY HAVE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS BACK TO THEM EVERY QUARTER WE WILL BE GOING THROUGH, I'M SURE, A VERY THOROUGH AUDIT ON THIS.

AND SO WE JUST ARE WATCHING THIS VERY CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE IT ALIGNS WITH WHAT THE TREASURY INTENTION IS ON ALL THIS.

SO WITH THAT, CAN I ANSWER QUESTIONS OR ARE THERE ANY THOUGHTS? AND I KNOW I'VE PROVIDED A LOT MORE INFORMATION IN THE EMAIL IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING.

I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S OKAY.

MAYOR. YES, SIR. OH, THERE'S APPEARS TO BE A LOT OF MONEY.

WE REALLY DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE FULLY SPENT.

IS THAT CORRECT? NO, SIR. ACTUALLY, ABOUT THAT 300,000 FROM THE LIST THAT'S THERE, THAT 300,000 IS ABOUT THE ONLY AMOUNT THAT WE'RE PRETTY SURE THAT IT MIGHT BE ON MIGHT BE QUESTIONABLE WHETHER IT WILL BE SPENT OR NOT.

THE REST OF THEM ARE IN THE WORKS.

WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FINALIZE DESIGN ON MOST OR PROCUREMENT, AND THOSE AWARDS WILL BE COMING TO THIS GROUP.

OKAY. I WAS LOOKING, FOR INSTANCE, LIKE AT THE CRIME CENTER.

YES, WE'RE WAITING ON NUMBERS.

CORRECT. SO THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO SPEND.

WE KNOW WE WILL.

WE KNOW WE WILL SPEND IN EXCESS.

THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD FEELING TO KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE THAN WE GOT.

WELL, WE HAVE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, BUT WE WILL UTILIZE THE ARPA FUNDING FIRST BEFORE ANY OF THE OTHERS.

BUT I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TO PUT CHIEF OR JERRY ON THE SPOT, BUT I DO KNOW.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT HIM ON THE SPOT EITHER, THE WAY I'M LOOKING AT THIS IS WE GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS OUT THERE.

WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE SPENT.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF QUESTION MARKS.

WE GOT $750,000.

SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $750,000 PLUS SOME.

YES. YES.

OKAY. ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING OUT, I SAW THE COMING HOME LITTER CREW.

YES. IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS.

YES. HOW MUCH TOTAL HAVE WE GIVEN IN TO THAT? IT WAS IT WAS $500,000 IN TOTAL THAT WAS ALLOCATED TO THAT PILOT PROGRAM.

YES. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

AND AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE THAT WE WE THINK WE MIGHT COULD TRIM BACK A LITTLE BIT IF YOU ALL THOUGHT THERE MIGHT BE A IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

JASON HAS TOLD ME HE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO ENSURE IT'S ALL FULLY SPENT.

BUT I DO THINK THAT IS AN AREA WE MIGHT COULD TRIM BACK JUST SLIGHTLY IF THERE WERE SOME OTHER PRIORITIES THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU.

YES, SIR. OTHER QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS. THIS SIDE.

JUST ON THAT. SO THOSE IDEAS Y'ALL CAME UP WITH, LIKE THE FREE BUS RIDES FOR THE HOMELESS, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, WHERE DID Y'ALL COME UP WITH THOSE OR ARE THOSE IDENTIFIED IN THERE? I MEAN, HOW DID Y'ALL CORRELATE THAT THOSE WERE PRIORITIES AND NOT? SO ON THOSE, WHAT WE DID IS WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.

AND AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND I KNOW $300,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THE ELIGIBILITY.

SO IF WE'RE TALKING INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR INSTANCE, $300,000 DOESN'T GO VERY FAR ON A LOT OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND SO WE WERE TRYING TO FIND PROJECTS THAT WOULD KIND OF FIT WITHIN THAT $300,000 MARK.

WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL ITEMS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, WHETHER WE'VE HEARD CITIZENS.

THERE'S EITHER BEEN MEETINGS SET UP WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS RELATED TO SOME OF THESE, AND WE TRIED TO BRAINSTORM ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AS EITHER A NEED, A CONCERN, A QUESTION THAT'S COMING UP AND THAT MIGHT MEET SOME OF THIS CRITERIA.

AND SO THERE IS VERY LIMITED CRITERIA.

FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PUT IT INTO POSITIONS OR HIRE ANYONE, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE TIME FUNDING.

AND SO IT KIND OF STARTS SCALING BACK.

SOME OF IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN EXPAND SERVICES RELATED TO IT.

AND SO REALLY IT STARTS KIND OF TRIMMING DOWN.

WE CAN'T THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS WE CAN'T DO WITH THE ARPA FUNDS.

AND SO WE WERE REALLY TRYING TO JUST BRAINSTORM OFF OF THINGS THAT WE KNEW WERE ELIGIBLE AND THAT WE HAD KIND OF HEARD SOME INFORMATION ABOUT RECENTLY.

OKAY. THANKS. YOU KNOW, LAURA, WITH THE FREE BUS RIDES, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT MONEY RUNS OUT AND THESE HOMELESS ARE EXPECTED TO GET ON THE BUS? YES, SIR. ABSOLUTELY.

AND SO THOSE WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT.

AND IF YOU EVEN GO BACK TO THAT PREP ACADEMY, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE COMING HOME LITTER CREW.

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THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION LIKE THIS WAS TO FUND A PILOT PROGRAM FOR THESE DOLLARS, COULD GO TOWARDS A PILOT PROGRAM, BUT THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER FIND A LONG TERM FUNDING SOURCE FOR IT OR WE WOULD HAVE TO EITHER ELIMINATE IT OR GO ANOTHER ROUTE ON IT.

SO THAT'S A FANTASTIC QUESTION.

YES, SIR. SO WE SO THIS ISN'T SET.

WE CAN CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THIS.

THOSE ARE JUST OPTIONS.

THESE ARE IDEAS. AND THERE IS NO ACTION ON THIS ITEM TODAY.

THIS IS SIMPLY JUST A DISCUSSION, INFORMATIONAL THING.

WANTED TO START GETTING THIS CONVERSATION GOING.

AND SO, YES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY TALK ABOUT IT MORE.

IF YOU ALL HAVE IDEAS, SEND THEM MY WAY AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD MEET THE CRITERIA OR NOT.

WE CAN BRING IT BACK AS A FUTURE DISCUSSION.

BUT IN ORDER TO CHANGE WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY ALLOCATED AND PUT IT TOWARDS A DIFFERENT ALLOCATION, WE WOULD WANT TO BRING A RESOLUTION TO YOU ALL.

AND SO BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.

SO JUST KIND OF WANTED TO START THE CONVERSATION.

OKAY. YEAH, ONE MORE.

YES, SIR. WE HAVE A LOT IN HERE FOR THE HOMELESS.

YES, SIR. AND IT'S LIKE THE FREE BUS RIDES YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.

I HAVE THEM IN MY HEART OF FEELING FOR OUR ELDERLY THAT ARE LOW INCOME.

YES, I THINK.

AND A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE ARE PAYING TAX DOLLARS, BUT THEY JUST DON'T HAVE EXTRA.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD CONSIDER THEM FOR SOME OF THAT FREE RIDES OR WHATEVER.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

WE COULD EXPLORE AN OPTION LIKE THAT.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE WAS ABOUT $600,000 THAT WAS PUT TOWARDS DEDICATED SENIOR CITIZEN PROJECTS.

WE WENT THROUGH A FORMAL PROCESS ON THAT.

WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO ANOTHER PROCESS SIMILAR TO THAT, OR WE COULD DO FREE BUS RIDES FOR OUR ELDERLY POPULATION.

I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, SIR.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.

SO I WOULD ASK COUNCIL TO TAKE THE NEXT MONTH, PULL TOGETHER YOUR SMALL PROJECT INITIATIVE IDEAS, AND THEN LET'S REPORT THOSE BACK TO STAFF AND LET'S GET A COLLABORATION GOING ON WHAT THIS MONEY CAN GO TOWARDS.

WE HAVE $300,000 REMAINING IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND IF YOU ALL WANT TO SEND THOSE EITHER TO ANDREW OR ME OR BOTH OF US, I'LL DO THE LEGWORK.

AND WHAT WE COULD DO IS BRING THIS BACK MAYBE NEXT MONTH FOR ANOTHER DISCUSSION ITEM AND GO FROM THERE.

SOUNDS GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MRS. STORRS. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AND AN UPDATE ON

[6.C. Discuss Hollywood Road Wastewater Treatment Facility Status]

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, HOLLYWOOD ROAD.

MR. HARTMAN, YOU HAVE THAT ONE? YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY.

WANTED TO, AS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR THE HOLLYWOOD ROAD WASTEWATER TREATMENT FACILITY AS IT WAS DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER IN TODAY'S MEETING.

SO AGAIN, I'M FLOYD HARTMAN, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS GOING TO FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE AND BASICALLY THE WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WATER UTILITIES.

I WANT TO PUT THIS SLIDE UP AND SHOW YOU THAT THERE'S SOME MAJOR PRIORITIES.

JOHN COLLINS HAS BEEN HERE JUST ABOUT A YEAR NOW, AND HE'S BEEN WORKING ON LONG TERM PLANNING.

AND WHAT JOHN'S PUT UP HERE IS IDENTIFIED LIST OF PRIORITIES IN WATER UTILITIES.

YOU'LL SEE THAT TODAY'S DISCUSSION HITS ONE OF HIS PRIORITIES, WHICH WAS REHABILITATION OF HOLLYWOOD INFRASTRUCTURE AND RETROFIT AUTOMATION.

BUT HE'S GOT THE E-LAB, THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAB, AS A CENTRAL COMPONENT.

RIVER ROAD IS GOING TO BE ON NEXT ON OUR LIST.

RETROFIT AUTOMATION OSAGE.

BUT THESE ARE OUR MAJOR AND THEN REPLACE A PIPELINE THE WATER AND DISTRIBUTION WATER DISTRIBUTION WASTEWATER COLLECTION SYSTEM.

THESE ARE OUR TOP PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

SO WE'LL ALSO BE INCLUDING THESE IN OUR UPDATE TO OUR MASTER PLANS.

BUT AS I GET STARTED TODAY ON HOLLYWOOD, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE JOHN COLLINS.

HE'S SITTING RIGHT UP HERE AT THE FRONT.

MICHAEL PRICE, IS HE HERE? BACK HERE, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.

AND THEN I WANTED A COUPLE OF STAFF MEMBERS.

JACOB SMITH. IS HE HERE? THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT. I'M SORRY.

THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT. WE INVITED THEM.

BUT JACOB SMITH IS A PLANT MANAGER OUT THERE, HAS BEEN FOR LESS THAN A YEAR.

I GOT TO BRAG ON JACOB.

HE'S TAKEN A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION, DOING THE BEST HE CAN WITH A TEAM OUT THERE.

AND JACOB'S JUST REALLY IMPRESSIVE IN WHAT HE'S ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AT THAT PLANT.

AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE FACES ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

BUT THE ENTIRE TEAM OUT THERE IS WORKING VERY HARD TO KEEP THIS THING OPERATIONAL.

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AN EXAMPLE, A SPECIFIC EMPLOYEE, DANIEL LUNA, GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND ON THE BAR SCREEN OPERATION.

AND THAT WAS CRITICAL IN AN EARLIER COMMENT THAT YOU HAD IN YOUR MEETING TODAY WITH THE WASTE HAULERS THAT HAUL THE SEPTIC SYSTEM WASTE TO THE PLANT.

WHEN THIS PLANT IS NOT OPERATIONAL, WE CAN'T ACCEPT THAT THAT WASTE BECAUSE IT'LL JUST BE A VIOLATION THROUGH THE STATE IMMEDIATELY.

SO THIS ACTION BY MR. LUNA ACTUALLY IS WHAT GOT THAT PLANT WHERE THEY COULD ACCEPT THAT WASTE.

SO THE PLANT IS OPERATING ON A MARGINAL CONDITION EVER SINCE THE OPERATIONAL ISSUES WERE IDENTIFIED OVER A YEAR AGO.

AND NOW THE STORM HAS CREATED A VERY CRITICAL SCENARIO OUT OF THAT PLANT.

BUT WE'RE WORKING THE BEST WE CAN TO KEEP THAT PLANT OPERATIONAL.

I WANT A LITTLE CLARIFICATION ON THE EARLIER DISCUSSION.

THERE WAS A SPEAKER THAT SPOKE ABOUT GREASE TRAPS AND AND HAULING OF GREASE TRAPS THAT'S SEPARATE FROM SEPTIC WASTE HAULED TO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

THE GREASE TRAP THAT HAS TO GO TO A RECYCLER OR A QUALIFYING LANDFILL.

AND OUR LANDFILL DOESN'T QUALIFY TO TAKE CERTAIN HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, INCLUDING THAT OIL AND GREASE.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN OUR LANDFILL BEYOND WHAT WE JUST INVESTED IN CELL 10 TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT KIND OF WASTE.

SO THERE'S A LOT TO THOSE TWO COMMENTS THAT YOU RECEIVED, AND I'D LIKE TO GO IN DEPTH FURTHER ON THOSE LATER.

BUT TODAY'S TOPIC AGAIN IS THE PLANT.

SO HERE'S A PICTURE.

THIS PLANT IS LOCATED ON GRAND STREET, SOUTH OF THE LOOP 335, APPROXIMATELY A MILE SOUTH.

THAT WOULD BE GRAND STREET ON THE LEFT OF THAT PICTURE ON WEST OF THAT PLANT.

BUT THIS WILL GIVE YOU SOME IDEA.

IT'S JUST A BIG PICTURE VIEW OF THE PLANT.

SO A LITTLE HISTORY OF THAT PLANT CAPACITY.

CURRENT CAPACITY IS 12 MILLION GALLONS.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS, THE TCEQ AND OPERATIONS.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THAT PLANT NOW HAS EXCEEDED THE 75% CAPACITY RULE.

SO IN WASTEWATER TREATMENT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS IS 75 TO 90 RULE.

AND THAT 75% RULE TRIGGERS THAT YOU HAVE TO START THE DESIGN AND HAVE A PLAN FOR THE EXPANSION AND OR REPLACEMENT OF THE PLANT.

AND THAT'S WHAT IS BASICALLY YOU'RE HEARING TODAY IS THAT COMPONENT IS THE BIGGEST HURDLE THAT WE HAVE DOWN THERE AT THIS POINT.

NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE THE OPERATIONAL COMPONENT, BUT NOW WE HAVE THIS REQUIREMENT TO START EVALUATING THAT CAPACITY AND THE EXPANSION THROUGH AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO IDENTIFY SUCH THAT WE'RE READY AT THE 90% CAPACITY TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.

YOU CAN YOU HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION PRIOR TO YOU HIT THAT 90%.

SO IT MUST BE THAT 90% WE JUST COVERED.

BUT THE LACK OF THIS CAPACITY NOW WILL BE IMPACTING OUR ABILITY TO GROW.

THAT WAS IDENTIFIED BY ONE OF THE SPEAKERS, INCLUDING ANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE RELATED TO THAT PLANT AND OR THE OTHER PLANT.

AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON ANY SLIDE, PLEASE STOP ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST KEEP GOING AND GOING.

YES. SO REAL QUICK, FLOYD, SO SPEAKING OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, JUST THINKING AHEAD HERE, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION COULD HELP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS? ACROSS THE STATE, THERE ARE MANY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATIONS THAT DO PARTICIPATE IN THE GROWTH COMPONENTS OF THIS TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO I WOULD SAY, YES, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

WE HAVEN'T RESEARCHED THOSE COMPLETELY.

BUT ANYTIME THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY TO COME IN AND THE ROADBLOCK IS WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS, THEN THAT CAN BE A COMPONENT OF AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, MEETING CERTAIN CRITERIA AND PARAMETERS.

OKAY. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THE SEASONAL FLOW CHANGES ABOUT 2 MILLION GALLONS, 1.9 MGD IS MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.

OKAY. SO THAT'S AN INDUSTRY TERM.

SO WE PUT THAT UP THERE.

BUT OVER A 20 YEAR PROJECTION AT THE CURRENT GROWTH, WE PROJECT THAT TO DOUBLE IN CAPACITY NEED, INCLUDING THAT INDUSTRY GROWTH THAT WE WILL SEE AND EXPECT.

AND WE WE WILL BE PLANNING HOW TO ACCOMMODATE THAT GROWTH, ESPECIALLY THE HOUSING COMPONENT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

SO IN THAT EVALUATING THIS OPTIMUM DESIGN, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT EXTERNAL ENGINEERING COMPANIES TO DO THAT.

BUT WE'VE PUT PARAMETERS OF THE MAX.

SO OVER A PERIOD OF EXPANSIONS WE WOULD HOPE TO HIT THE 32 TO 30 MILLION GALLON RANGE.

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THERE YOU SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL OPTIONS AS WE LOOK OUT IN THE FUTURE AND SEE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO.

WE DON'T ANTICIPATE THE INITIAL BUILD OUT TO BE AT THE 30 MILLION GALLON RANGE.

WE EXPECT THAT TO BE PLANNED OUT IN INCREMENTAL GROWTH OF THIS PLANT AND THE RIVER ROAD PLANT.

SO IT'LL BE A COMBINATION OF PLANNING AS WE GO FORWARD THAT WILL BE BASED OFF A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR THE CAPACITY, INCLUDING WHAT WE ANTICIPATE IN THAT GROWTH AND THAT CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULING THEN CAN BE PLACED INTO A PLAN AND THEN WE CAN FINALIZE RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AND HOW TO FUND THAT.

SO IT'S QUITE THE OPERATION.

OKAY. I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF COST HERE AND A LITTLE BIT.

SO WHAT WE EXPERIENCED WAS PRIOR TO THIS RAIN EVENT THAT THERE WERE OPERATIONAL AND MAINTENANCE CHALLENGES RELATED TO THE PLANT, THE BLOWERS, THE HEAD WORK, OVERALL SITE, ELECTRICAL INFLUENT PUMP STATION, SECONDARY CLARIFIERS AND SLUDGE.

THESE WERE PRIMARY THINGS IDENTIFIED FOR US TO HAVE A CRITICAL PATH TO KEEPING THE PUMP AND OPERATE PLANT AND OPERATION.

AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHEN WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH ONE OF THESE, THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD SEE THAT WE HAVE TO STOP TAKING INDUSTRIAL WASTE FROM THE HAULERS AND ADDITIONAL THINGS, ESPECIALLY AT THE HEADWORKS ON THOSE BAR SCREENS AND THAT THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD RESULT IN VIOLATIONS AND ADDITIONAL PROBLEMS WITH THIS.

OKAY. HEY, FLOYD.

OKAY, GO AHEAD. YEAH.

SO NOW ON THESE ISSUES RIGHT HERE, SO IS THIS END OF LIFE ISSUES OR LACK OF OR WAS IT SOME OF THE REASONS? IT'S BOTH A LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND END OF LIFE.

WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT ON THE PLANT WENT INTO SERVICE IN THE EARLY TO MID 1960S.

SO SOME OF THIS YOU TAKE THE SECONDARY CLARIFIERS THAT REALLY ARE A COMBINATION OF END OF LIFE, BUT LACK OF MAINTENANCE ON CERTAIN THINGS.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE HERE IN A MINUTE AND POINT OUT A FEW THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT BETWEEN END OF LIFE AND JUST MAINTENANCE.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO AFTER THE RAIN YOU CAN SEE THE SIMILAR TYPE LIST ONLY WE ADDED A FEW THINGS DOWN AT THE BOTTOM.

A BELT FILTER PRESS POLYMER SYSTEM DISSOLVED AIR FLOTATION.

BUT UP AT THE TOP I PUT ADDITIONAL SLUDGE.

THESE WERE THE PRIMARY THINGS IDENTIFIED OUT OF THAT CRITICAL RAIN EVENT, INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DAMAGE AS WE SEE IT RELATED TO ON SITE. JUST EVERY ASPECT OF THE PLANT WAS IMPACTED BY THE FLOOD.

SO WORKING WITH THAT, YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS HAS EXPANDED THE CHALLENGES RELATED TO THAT PLANT.

SO CAN YOU KIND OF. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU SO JUST TELL ME, AS A LAYMAN, HOW IS IT THAT THE FLOOD IMPACTED THE WASTEWATER? SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT THE PIPE CAPACITY, THE FULL PIPE CAPACITY OF A 72 INCH WAS EXPERIENCED DURING THAT FLOOD.

IT BACKED UP INTO THE SYSTEM.

WE HAD INFLOW AND INFILTRATION THAT EXCEEDED THE CAPACITIES OF THIS PLANT, BASICALLY OVERFLOWING THE PLANT IN ALL ASPECTS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT UNDER A NORMAL FLOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO HANDLE THE SLUDGE, THE REMOVAL OF SOLIDS AND JUST THE TREATMENT OF THE PLANT ITSELF.

DURING THE RAIN EVENTS, THE EXTREME RAIN EVENTS, THOSE WERE ALL OVERLOADED, OVERFLOWING.

AND NOT ONLY DID YOU HAVE THE PHYSICAL FLOODING OF THE PLANT, BUT YOU JUST HAD PIECES OF THE PLANT JUST COLLAPSING AND BREAKING UNDER THE MAXIMUM LOAD THAT THEY WERE BEING EXPECTED TO OPERATE UNDER.

AND YOU TAKE THE BELT PRESS SYSTEM, IT'S JUST OVERLOADED BECAUSE SLUDGE WAS NOW COMING IN AT A VOLUME THROUGH THE PLANT THAT WAS UNFORESEEN AND UNEXPECTED IN A RAIN EVENT OF THAT SIZE AND MAGNITUDE, OVERLOADING THIS PLANT.

SO THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT OCCURRED THAT IT JUST BASICALLY OVERLOADED IT.

IT OVERFLOWED IT.

AND THOSE EVERY STRUCTURE AND FEATURE OUT THERE WAS PUSHED TO ITS LIMIT AND SOME OF THEM BROKE.

YEAH. AND SO WAS IT EXACERBATED BY I MEAN, WOULD IT BEEN THE SAME? EVEN IF SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE PLANT BEFOREHAND.

YES. THE FLOOD WITH THE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY FLOODING, WERE THEY MAGNIFIED BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEMS WE ALREADY HAD OR WERE THAT SAME THING OCCURRED WITH THE AMOUNT OF FLOODING THAT WE HAD THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS? FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND OF THE FLOODING, THE PLANT WOULD HAVE BEEN OVERLOADED AND DAMAGED IRREGARDLESS OF ITS REPAIR AND DETERIORATION.

IT JUST THE LOADING OF THAT PLANT WAS WELL ABOVE THE DESIGN CAPACITY OF THAT PLANT AND WOULD HAVE DAMAGED IT IF IT WAS IN PERFECT MAINTENANCE.

OKAY. SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THOSE.

IT'S NOT EXACTLY 100% ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

YOU TAKE THE SLUDGE.

WE ALREADY HAD A SLUDGE PROBLEM IN THE PLANT.

THIS WAS JUST SUCH THAT IT OVERLOADED IT.

BUT THAT RAIN EVENT WOULD HAVE OVERLOADED THAT PLANT IN NORMAL OPERATING CONDITIONS IF EVERYTHING HAD BEEN GOOD PRIOR TO.

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DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. AND SO AGAIN, AND IT BECOMES OVERLOADED BECAUSE OUR PLAYA LAKES WERE NOT ABLE TO TAKE ON THE CAPACITY.

SO THE WATER HAD TO GO ELSEWHERE AND IT WOUND UP IN OUR IT'S IN OUR SYSTEM THAT'S INFLOW AND INFILTRATION.

WHEN THOSE LAKES COME OUT OF THAT, THERE'S WAYS AND METHODS FOR WATER TO GET INTO THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE CODES TO PREVENT OPEN SEWERS IN BACKYARDS.

THOSE FOUR INCH PIPES HAVE TO HAVE A CAP ON THEM.

THAT'S WHY THOSE CODES EXIST, BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET THOSE AREAS INUNDATED IN A FLOOD, THEN YOU HAVE THOSE FOUR INCH STREAMS OF WATER GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE PLANT.

AND THERE WERE OTHER THINGS WE DID FIND MANHOLES THAT WERE OPEN IN PLAYA LAKES.

THERE WERE THINGS OCCURRING THAT DID MAGNIFY THE FLOW TO THAT PLANT.

IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN ANY FLOODING EVENT WE'D SEEN IN THE PAST.

AND WHY DID.

BUT NOT THE SAME THING DIDN'T HAPPEN AT RIVER ROAD.

IT HAD INFLOWS, BUT THE PLANT WAS ABLE TO HANDLE THOSE INFLOWS.

I WILL TELL YOU, ONE OF THE DIFFERENCES IS THERE WAS ABOUT A 20 YEAR WINDOW OF INFLOW AND INFILTRATION EFFORTS UP THE RIVER ROAD BASIN THROUGH EAST AMARILLO CREEK, UP ALL THE WAY UP TO HERE CLOSE TO CITY HALL, WHERE THE DRAINAGE STARTS OF SEALING THAT, LOOKING FOR THOSE AND A FOCUSED EFFORT FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS TO PREVENT INFLOW AND INFILTRATION OF THE RIVER ROAD PLANT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

BUT THAT WAS THE OLDEST PART OF OUR SYSTEM.

WE DID REHAB ON THE OUTFLOW LINES OF RIVER ROAD FOR ABOUT FIVE MILES, WHICH WAS WE RELINED THOSE OLD LINES.

THIS LINE, THIS PLANT IS JUST GETTING TO THAT LIFE EXPECTANCY WHERE THOSE KIND OF THINGS WOULD BE OCCURRING.

SO IT'S JUST REALLY TIMING WAS RELATED TO AGE, WHICH IS THAT COMPONENT OF THIS.

THANK YOU FOR REAL QUICK WHILE WE'RE ON THIS.

SO THE RIVER ROAD PLANT, HOW OLD IS IT? IT WAS CONSTRUCTED SOMEWHERE AROUND 1927.

SO IT'S BEEN WHEN THE CITY PURCHASED THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM FROM THE ELECTRIC COMPANY IN 1927.

ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY DID WAS MOVE THE WASTEWATER PLANT FROM THE WILD HORSE LAKE AREA TO THE RIVER ROAD PLANT.

SO THE FIRST LINE GOING OUT TO RIVER ROAD WAS AND THE RIVER ROAD PLANT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1927.

THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS UPGRADES SINCE.

SO YEAH, OBVIOUSLY.

SO IT'S BEEN IT'S IN BETTER SHAPE THAN WHAT THE HOLLYWOOD PLANT IS.

IT IS IN BETTER SHAPE AS OF TODAY.

THERE ARE STILL NEEDS OUT THERE.

AND AGAIN, WHEN WE HIT THE 75% RULE OVER HERE, WE'RE CLOSE OUT THERE.

SO THESE THINGS ARE REALLY GOING TO BE CLOSE IN TIMING RELATED TO THIS.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF INGENUITY ON MY PART AND JOHN'S PART TO FUND TO IDENTIFY A FUNDING MECHANISM TO GET BOTH OF THESE IN A DECADE, DECADE AND A HALF. OKAY. SO WE'RE FOCUSING ON THE HOLLYWOOD ROAD PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S JUST FAILING.

IT HIT THE TRIGGER AND IT'S HAD THESE CHALLENGES, BUT WE DON'T HAVE LONG FOR THE RIVER ROAD IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING EITHER.

NO, I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE DECADE WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE SAME SCENARIO AT THE RIVER ROAD PLANT.

NOW, REMEMBER, AS YOU BUILD A SYSTEM THIS SIZE, THE NORTHEAST INTERCEPTOR WAS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF EXPANDING THE CAPACITY OF THE COLLECTION SYSTEM.

SO ONCE YOU OVERCOME ONE ROADBLOCK, THEN YOU'VE GOT THE NEXT ROADBLOCK.

AND AS SOON AS YOU FIX THAT PLANT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BACK UP INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND KNOW THAT THOSE AGE LINES HAVE TO BE REPLACED AS WE.

SO THERE'S ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN IGNORED FOR DECADES AND DECADES.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP IN EVERY AREA NOW.

WE'RE GOOD IN WATER SUPPLY.

THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

SO THIS IS JUST THE NEXT CHALLENGE ON THE PLATE, SO TO SPEAK.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE PROBLEM IS THERE'S JUST THERE'S BEEN NO MAINTENANCE.

THERE'S NO IT'S JUST BEEN IGNORED FOR DECADES.

THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES OUT THERE, IS THAT FOR A FEW DECADES, THERE'S BEEN VERY LITTLE IMPROVEMENTS MADE OUT OF THE HOLLYWOOD ROAD.

SO NOW WE'RE FACED WITH ALL THESE PROBLEMS AND NOT ENOUGH FUNDING TO JUST DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

RIGHT. AND SO AS I GET INTO THIS, HERE'S THE STABILIZATION PROJECTS.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE JUST HIGH ON THE LIST TO STABILIZE THAT PLANT FOR THINGS LIKE WHAT YOU HEARD EARLIER IN TODAY'S MEETING.

YOU SEE UP THERE THE REPLACE THE DAMAGED BAR SCREENS.

THAT'S ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE REASONS WHEN SOMEBODY DUMPS AS CLOSE TO THAT PLANT AS THOSE PEOPLE.

IT'S RIGHT THERE FROM YOU TO ME IN PROXIMITY TO THOSE BAR SCREENS.

THAT'S A SHOCK LOAD ONTO THAT BAR SCREEN.

AND IF IT'S MARGINAL TO START WITH, THEN IT JUST OVERFLOWS AND IT'S A VIOLATION.

SO THAT'S WHY DISCHARGE AT THE PLANT IS MUCH MORE REGULATED THAN UP IN AND OUT THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

SO I WANTED TO COVER A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RIVER ROAD ON THAT DISCUSSION EARLIER, THOSE COMMENTS, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE DUMP AT RIVER ROAD? WELL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT THROUGH THE TCEQ FOR THAT KIND OF SEWAGE TO BE PLACED AT THAT FACILITY.

AND WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THE PERMIT AT HOLLYWOOD.

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WE'VE NEVER HAD IT AT RIVER ROAD BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS IN GETTING A PERMIT FOR THAT KIND OF USE IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS A SEGMENT OF THE WATER STREAM DOWNSTREAM FROM THE RIVER ROAD AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DISCHARGE PERMIT INTO THE CREEK OR THE RIVER FOR A WASTEWATER PLANT OF THIS SIZE.

AND IT'S A REGULATED SEGMENT BY THE EPA AND THAT HAS LIMITATIONS ON CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU CAN PUT OUT OF THAT PLANT THAT ARE MUCH STRICTER THAN THAT PLANT.

NOW, THIS PLANT HAS A CAPACITY DISCHARGES INTO A LAKE, AT TANGLEWOOD, AND THAT SO THE WATER HAS TO BE VERY SAFE FOR THAT USE. BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT CONSTITUENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOWN THERE AND WHAT WE'VE STRUGGLED WITH OVER THE YEARS AND DECADES OF THAT THE WASTE HAULERS, IT'S NOT THE GOOD ONES.

IT'S ALWAYS THAT 1 OR 2 THAT WANT TO DUMP ILLEGAL DUMPING INTO THE WASTEWATER PLANT.

BUT WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS UNDER THIS OPERATION, WE HAVE TO HAVE MONITORING OF IT.

WE HAVE TO HAVE AN APPOINTMENT, WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING INTO THE PLANT SO WE KNOW WHAT TO DO IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE ONE LOAD OF A PRODUCT THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF, INCLUDING JUST A SHOCK LOAD OF SOLIDS, COULD SHUT THAT PLANT DOWN.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE UNDER THE SCENARIO ARE HOPEFULLY WHEN WE EXPAND THE PLANT AND GET THINGS WORKING, WE CAN GO BACK TO A LITTLE MORE RELAXED ON AND TRUST THESE WASTE HAULERS. WE TRUST THEM.

NOW IT'S JUST A MATTER THAT WE'RE IN THIS CRITICAL OPERATION AND WE HAVE TO HAVE CONTROL OF THIS.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY'RE FORCED TO GO ELSEWHERE.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST SIMPLY WHAT OUR PLANT CAN'T HANDLE.

THE GENTLEMAN STATED IT CORRECTLY.

THERE IS NO OTHER PLACE IN POTTER RANDALL COUNTY TO DUMP.

SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THAT OPEN FOR PERIODS OF TIME TO GIVE THEM THE SERVICE THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY GIVE.

OKAY. BUT HERE'S THE CRITICAL PATH.

ELECTRICAL, THE BAR SCREENS, GRIT REMOVAL IN THE TOP IS JUST A GENERAL THING ABOUT EQUALIZATION BASINS, THE EXCEL BASIN AND THE REMEDIATION AND THE PLAYA LAKE.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT GET US BACK IN THAT.

BUT HERE IS A MORE DETAILED LIST.

AND THIS IS JUST WALKING.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO READ, BUT THAT'S JUST WALKING THROUGH THE PLANT STEP BY STEP OF THOSE CRITICAL THINGS AT THAT PLANT THAT HAS TO BE PUT BACK INTO SERVICE, EVALUATED, INSTALLED, REPAIRED OR REPLACED, SUCH THAT WE CAN GET THAT PLANT BACK TO NORMAL OPERATIONS WHERE WE CAN TAKE THAT.

THIS IS THAT LIST AND IT HAS IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO GIVE YOU AN EXACT COST OF THIS.

THIS IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IS WHAT THIS IS.

THIS JUST THIS REPAIR IS TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

NOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO FUND THE EXPANSION AND THE REPLACEMENT.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT LIST.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THOSE.

BUT I WANTED TO SEE THE MAGNITUDE OF HOW EACH PIECE AND COMPONENT OF THAT PLANT NEEDS SOME ATTENTION TO GET US BACK TO NORMAL OPERATION.

OKAY, SO WHAT HAVE WE BEEN DOING? WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

SO THE FLOOD INVOLVED, THE FEMA, FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY AND OTHERS.

SO THEY CAME OUT IN JULY WITH THEIR INSPECTIONS ON THE SOUTH BASINS, NORTH BASINS, CLARIFIER SLUDGE.

THE HVAC AND THE BLOWERS WERE MARGINALLY FUNCTIONAL.

THESE ARE THE MAIN THINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED OUT OF THAT INSPECTION.

BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD OUR INSURANCE ADJUSTER OUT THERE AND THIS WAS A PRIMARY INSPECTION AREAS OF THAT.

AND SO OUT OF ALL THIS DAMAGE AND CLAIMS, IT'S A COMBINATION OF INSURANCE AND WORKING WITH TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TO SUBMIT HOPEFULLY TO FEMA, IT DOESN'T LOOK AS PROMISING AS WE ONCE THOUGHT AGAIN, BUT THE INSURANCE AGENT LOOKED AT THESE. NOW, THE BAD NEWS ON OUR INSURANCE IS THAT PLANT ACTUALLY NOW IS IDENTIFIED, THAT IT'S CONSTRUCTED, THE MAJORITY OF IT INSIDE THE FLOODPLAIN, SO INSURANCE DOESN'T APPLY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED OVER THE LAST WEEK AND A HALF THAT IT'S NOT COVERED WHEN IT'S IN THAT FLOODPLAIN.

NOW, REMEMBER, THE PLANT WAS BUILT IN 1965 BEFORE THAT FLOODPLAIN MAP EXISTED.

SO THEY HIT IT REALLY CLOSE.

IT'S ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THROUGH THE PLANT, SO IT'S REALLY CLOSE.

SO WE DID LEARN THIS WEEK, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THE EXTERNAL VIEW OF THE INSURANCE ADJUSTER LOOKING AT IT, GIVING US ADVICE AND HELPING US THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES.

OKAY. BUT BEFORE I LEAVE THERE, I DO WANT TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, FEMA AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS WHO HAVE ALL BEEN OUT HELPING US EVALUATE.

JOHN HAS COORDINATED WITH HIS TEAM, AN EXTERNAL ENGINEERING FIRM THAT IS HELPING US ALSO GET EVALUATIONS.

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AND YOU'LL SEE A SLIDE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT ALL OF THOSE EVALUATIONS ARE GETTING DIFFERENT EYES ON THAT THING, GIVING US A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AND A DIFFERENT VIEW SO THAT WE CAN GET THE BEST PLAN FORWARD AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING THE CRITICAL THINGS IN A PROPER MANNER.

OKAY, A FEW PICTURES.

THIS IS JUST PICTURES OF THEM INSPECTING THIS SIDEWALK THAT YOU SEE AFTER THE RAIN HAS MANY CRACKS AND FAILURES IN IT.

THE BLUE PICTURE IS A UNDERGROUND.

THEY DRILLED A HOLE IN THAT SIDEWALK AND VIEWED THERE'S A CAVERN UNDERNEATH IT.

THIS IS ALL THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING AS THAT FLOOD DAMAGE.

BEFORE THE FLOOD DAMAGE, THIS SIDEWALK WAS FINE.

AND NOW THIS IS SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF THAT MAINTENANCE AND THAT SO IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THAT FLOOD ACTUALLY DAMAGED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT A BASIN LIKE THIS IS CONCRETE.

IF THAT SHIFTED AND MOVED, THAT'S RELATED TO THE FLOOD DAMAGE.

AND THAT'S OUR ARGUMENT THAT THAT FLOOD REALLY, REALLY IMPACTED US A LOT.

OKAY. SO THIS IS THE ONE WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON.

I WAS GOING TO POINT OUT, YOU CAN SEE THE RUST ON THE METAL AND THIS IS MECHANISM THAT TURNS AND ROTATES.

THERE WILL BE AN AGENDA ITEM OR IS AN AGENDA ITEM TO REPLACE THE GEARBOX IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS DEVICE AND YOU SEE A PICTURE FROM THE SIDE.

BUT THIS IS A COMBINATION OF ALL THREE PROBLEMS. THIS IS A COMBINATION OF THE FLOOD.

IF YOU COULD IF YOU WERE OUT THERE, YOU COULD PUT YOUR HAND IN THE WATER AND THAT IS PLUMB FULL OF SLUDGE.

AND THAT WAS BROUGHT IN AND MADE WORSE BY THE FLOOD.

BUT YOU ALSO SEE THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE AND YOU ALSO SEE THE AGE OF THE PLANT.

SO THIS PICTURE KIND OF IS A CULMINATION THAT ALL THESE FACTORS CAME TOGETHER IN THIS.

BUT THIS WAS A PRETTY GOOD PICTURE THAT JUST KIND OF INDICATED THAT THAT CONCRETE IS GOING TO AGE OUT, ESPECIALLY IN THE CORROSIVE ENVIRONMENT OF A WASTEWATER THAT DOESN'T LAST TOO LONG.

AND AGAIN, IT'S HITTING THE 60 YEAR MARK.

AND SO IT'S TIME.

OKAY. SO OUR OWN CONSULTANT IS LOOKING AT THE ALL OF THESE THINGS, INCLUDING THE CRANE.

THE ADDITION HERE IS THE BLOWER BUILDING AND NORTH BASINS CLARIFIER, BUT THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE THING OVERALL.

OKAY. TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, IF YOU LOOK DOWN IN THE PICTURE OF THAT CRANE THAT WAS STRAIGHT BEFORE THE FLOOD AND THAT END IS OUT, YOU CAN SEE IN THAT PICTURE ON THE RIGHT THAT THE END IS TWISTED OVER TO THE SIDE THAT SHIFTED FROM THE FLOODS.

SO THAT WHAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING IS THAT WE DO BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE BY THE FLOOD.

NOW, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SUCCESS IN THAT, KNOWING THAT WE HAD THE MAINTENANCE AND THE AGE ISSUE? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS WITH TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, FEMA AND ALL THOSE OTHERS.

BUT WE ALSO ANTICIPATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT ALL OF THIS WILL GET US INTO SOME OTHER FUNDING MECHANISMS. SO SLUDGE STILL BECOMES THE ISSUE.

THIS WOULD BE MUCH CLEARER AND MUCH MORE OPERATIONAL.

THIS IS THE AIR BUBBLING AREA THAT HELPS THAT TREATMENT PROCESS.

AND IT'S JUST UNDER THESE CONDITIONS, IF YOU KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT IT, THIS IS JUST A POORLY OPERATING SYSTEM RIGHT HERE.

OKAY. SO WHERE ARE WE HERE IN SEPTEMBER? INSURANCE, STRUCTURAL AND GEOTECHNICAL INSPECTIONS AND REPORTS ARE ALL BEING ASSESSED.

JOHN AND HIS TEAM ARE CONTINUING TO MEET WITH THE TCEQ AND I HAVE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THE REGULATOR, THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.

I APPRECIATE THEIR PATIENCE WITH US AND THEIR ASSISTANCE IN HELPING US PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF RANDALL COUNTY AND AMARILLO.

I THINK THIS IS GOING VERY WELL FOR THE MAGNITUDE OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.

AND IN THIS CASE, THE REGULATOR IS NOT A REGULATOR.

THEY'RE OUR FRIEND HELPING US TO IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS AND WE'RE GREATLY APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AFTER THE RAINS AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.

THE IMMEDIATE STABILIZATION.

WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SLUDGE REMOVAL AND WE KNOW THAT'S A TOP PRIORITY.

AND THEN JOHN HAS TRIED TO RESEARCH ALTERNATIVES LIKE A MOBILE TREATMENT PLANT.

THOSE ARE STILL IN THE WORKS.

WE'LL FINISH UP THAT TCEQ INSPECTION THIS MONTH, GET SOME DIRECTION.

THEY WILL STAY ENGAGED WITH US AND WATCH THIS PLANT AS WE MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.

THAT'S WHERE I THOUGHT WAS A GOOD SPOT FOR US TO STOP TODAY.

WE MAY HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

YES. SO ANY QUESTIONS? SO CURRENT STATUS ON THE FEMA UPDATE.

I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

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YOU KNOW, YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY SAYS WE DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, YOU'RE IN A FLOOD ZONE.

FEMA EXISTS FOR THIS TYPE OF ISSUE.

THIS IS A MUNICIPAL.

SO UNDER THE FLOODING EVENT, THE THRESHOLD OF DAMAGE IN THE DESIGNATED AREA IS 50 MILLION.

WE STILL HAVE CLAIMS THAT WE MEET THAT THEY'RE DISPUTING THOSE CLAIMS AND WE'RE IN DISCUSSIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS.

AND TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS REPRESENTED US WELL IN THAT DISCUSSION WITH FEMA.

SO I CAN'T BRAG ON TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ENOUGH.

OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM STAYED ENGAGED IN THAT.

I WOULD JUST SAY IT'S CHALLENGING.

IT IS EXTREMELY CHALLENGING BECAUSE THEY WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE HAD THE MAINTENANCE AND THE AGE ISSUE AND THAT'S REAL AND THAT'S A REAL THING AND WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT. BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THAT FLOOD GREATLY IMPACTED OUR ABILITY AND GREATLY DAMAGED THAT PLANT.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THOSE DISCUSSIONS.

AGAIN, IF YOU DON'T HIT THE THRESHOLD OF 50 MILLION, THEN YOU DON'T OPEN UP THE FUNDING WINDOW OF FEMA.

RIGHT. WITHOUT THAT, WE'LL JUST PURSUE OTHER FUNDING OPTIONS, INCLUDING THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND ANY OTHER OPTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT IN FUNDING.

AND WE'RE WE'RE PURSUING OTHER GRANTS AND THINGS THAT.

WE WILL BE. OKAY.

WHAT'S THE BACKUP PLAN ON A FAILURE AND WHAT'S BEST PRACTICES? YOU KNOW, SO LIKE WE HAVE ONE TREATMENT FACILITY, WE HAVE TWO.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN REDIRECT, YOU KNOW THAT MUCH, BUT IN AN INSTANCE WHERE A MUNICIPALITY HAS ONE TREATMENT FACILITY AND IT GOES DOWN OR SOMETHING HAPPENS TO IT, WHAT DO THEY DO? SO THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, MANY OF OUR SMALLER CITIES HAVE THE ONE PLANT AND THERE ARE OCCASIONS WHERE THEY'VE HAD SIMILAR TYPE EVENTS.

THAT'S WHERE YOU TAKE THOSE ALTERNATIVE METHODS THAT THAT MOBILE PLANT IS AN OPTION.

BUT YOU TYPICALLY THERE ARE WAYS AND METHODS TO GET IT INTO OPERATION.

AND THAT'S WHAT JOHN AND HIS TEAM IS DOING.

THEY'RE KEEPING THAT PLANT IN OPERATION FOR THAT 8 TO 9 MILLION THAT WE AVERAGE EVERY DAY.

SO THEY'RE ABLE TO HANDLE IT, JUST MARGINALLY ABLE TO HANDLE IT SUCH THAT ONE DISRUPTION OF SOMEBODY DUMPING SOMETHING IN THERE STOPS THAT PLANT.

SO YOU JUST GO TO THE EXTREME OF PLANT THOSE PLANT OPERATORS AND THOSE PLANT PERSONNEL KEEPING THAT THING GOING AND. SO REALLY, WE ARE AT THE MERCY OF BEING ABLE TO KEEP THAT EXISTING PLANT.

THAT'S A LARGE OUTFLOW OF THE GRAVITY GOES FROM THAT PLANT.

IT'S THE GRAVITY STARTS AT I-40 OR RIGHT WEST OF SAM'S.

AND IT GRAVITY FLOWS ALL THE WAY TO THAT PLANT AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHUT THAT OFF.

YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNER IN THIS, WHICH IS XCEL ENERGY.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR WATER SUPPLY IN DIFFERENT SOURCES, BUT INCLUDING FROM THIS PLANT WHEN THE PLANT'S WORKING ON A NORMAL DAY RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE WATER TO XCEL THROUGH THIS PLANT.

SO I WILL TELL YOU, THE PLANT AND THE PEOPLE OUT THERE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN, AND THAT'S THE BACKUP PLAN RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN MARGINALLY MOVE IT.

THE NORTHEAST INTERCEPTOR WILL MOVE ABOUT 2 MILLION OFF OF THAT PLANT TO THAT PLANT.

BUT REMEMBER THAT CONSTRUCTION IS A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT.

SO THOSE KINDS OF EFFORTS ARE LONG TERM PLANNING, NOT SHORT TERM.

AM I CORRECT IN, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATING THIS IS 150, $180 MILLION PLANT? IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT ULTIMATE BUILD OUT TO BE IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.

AND THEN TIME FRAME ON BUILDING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

TWO YEARS, YOU WILL YOU WILL START THAT CONSTRUCTION.

WE'LL START THE DESIGN WITHIN THE NEXT YEAR.

WE'LL GET THAT REPORT, THE INITIAL REPORT OUT OF THAT REPORT, WE WILL START DESIGN AND WE WILL HAVE THAT CONSULTING ENGINEER.

IT'S IN THAT BUDGET THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO CONSIDER.

THERE'S $17 MILLION IN THAT BUDGET FOR THIS PLANT, AND THAT STARTS US DOWN THIS PATH OF GETTING THIS DESIGN AND GOING AND WORKING WITH TCEQ AND ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT ORDER TO RIGHT TIME.

BUT THE FIRST PIECE IS THIS PRIVATE ENGINEER STUDY AND REPORT THAT WE ANTICIPATE SOON T HAT WAS ON ONE OF THESE SLIDES.

OKAY. AND SO YOU CAN'T REALLY SIMPLIFY THIS LIKE YOU COULD IF IT WAS YOUR HOME AND YOUR SEPTIC SYSTEM THAT WAS KIND OF ON HER LAST LEG.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE IF YOU WERE ON A REALLY SMALL SCALE, YOU WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, WELL, WHAT CAN WE DO TO KIND OF NURSE THIS ALONG IN A BIG COMMUNITY OF 200,000 PEOPLE? IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP OR? WELL, I THINK JUST BE COGNIZANT OF INFLOW AND INFILTRATION.

THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT OUR COMMUNITY CAN HELP US WITH IS KEEP THE CAPS ON YOUR SEWER LINES IN YOUR BACKYARDS WHEN IT DOES RAIN, IF YOU HAVE THAT CAP OPEN AND WATER GOES IN THAT IT'S IMPACTING THAT PLANT.

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NOW, THAT GOES BEYOND JUST THE HOMEOWNERS THAT GOES INTO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.

SO ANYTHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE FLOWING INTO THE SANITARY SEWER, WE NEED HELP IN GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST POSITIVE IMPACT THAT OUR PUBLIC COULD HAVE TO HELP US IS INFLOW AND INFILTRATION.

KEEP THE SEWER CAPS ON, MAKE SURE THAT ANY FIXTURES OR OPEN PIPES YOU HEARD YOU HEARD SOMEONE HERE COMPLAIN ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT OF THAT.

AND I'M NOT SAYING WHETHER THAT WAS RIGHT OR WRONG, BUT ENFORCEMENT OF THAT IS A COMPONENT OF PREVENTING WATER, UNWANTED WATER IN A WASTEWATER PLANT OR A SEPTIC SYSTEM.

AND INSIDE THE CITY, OUR BIGGEST ISSUE IS THAT RAIN EVENT AND INFLOW.

SO INFLOW AND INFILTRATION IS THE COMPONENT THAT WE NEED HELP WITH.

QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

I WANT TO FOLLOW UP BECAUSE EITHER I MISSED IT OR SO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION WAS, OKAY, THIS PLANT SHUTS DOWN FOR WHATEVER REASON.

I MEAN, WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID THAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO KIND OF GET AN IDEA, A WHAT THAT IMPACT WOULD BE TO RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND B, JUST TO MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT OUR I HEARD NO, WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.

BUT JUST WHAT WOULD WE DO? WELL. WE CAN'T STOP THE FLOW OF THE PLANT.

SO IF FOR, LET'S JUST SAY, THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, ALL OUR GENERATORS FAIL AND ELECTRIC FAIL, THE PLANT JUST OVERFLOWS AND IT GOES TO THE PLAYA.

AND THEN WE HAVE REMEDIATION AND THAT'S IN SOME ASPECTS OF WHAT HAPPENED.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SHUT THIS PLANT DOWN.

WE WILL WE WILL GET ELECTRIC GENERATION.

WE WILL TAKE THOSE STEPS TO GET IT BACK IN OPERATION.

SO A COMPLETE AND TOTAL ABANDONMENT AND SHUTDOWN OF THE PLANT, I DO NOT SEE THAT AS A POSSIBILITY.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THE VEOLIA TEMPORARY STUFF TO BE YEAH. SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS AND THE TEMPORARY.

THAT'S WHERE A SMALL CITY WOULD GO TO TEMPORARY PACKAGE PLANT THAT'S ON TRUCKS WHEELS.

OKAY. WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE THEM LINED UP FOR HALF A MILE.

OKAY. THERE WOULD BE SOME KIND OF CONTINGENCY PLAN RELATED TO NOT ONLY OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE, BUT THE STATE'S EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

WE WOULD BE IN EMERGENCY RESPONSE THEN WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS UP THE UP THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS.

SO SHUTTING THE PLANT DOWN IS REALLY NOT AN OPTION.

THERE'S NOT A VALVE OR ANYTHING THAT CAN SHUT THE FLOW OFF TO A PLANT, AND THERE'S NOT A MAGICAL WAY TO MOVE ALL OF THE FLOW FROM THAT PLANT TO THAT PLANT.

SO I JUST DON'T THAT'S WHY I PROBABLY AM NOT ANSWERING THAT CLEAR IS BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT AN OPTION.

YEAH. OKAY.

WELL, THEN WHAT I THINK I HEAR ALSO IS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE NEXT DECADE, THIS IS GOING TO BE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE MAJOR INVESTMENTS NOT ONLY IN THE HOLLYWOOD ROAD, BUT RIVER ROAD AS WELL. THIS IS THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT.

AND QUICKLY ON HOLLYWOOD AND IN THE NEXT LATTER HALF OF THE DECADE IN RIVER ROAD AND IT'S A PRIORITY.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE FUNDING SOURCES AND GETTING A FUNDING PLAN.

AND THERE'LL BE MORE UPDATES AS WE COME THROUGH THIS.

SO, FLOYD, WE APPRECIATE THE UPDATE.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE, FLOYD? THANK YOU, SIR. IT'S 4:40.

WE WANT TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

WE WANT TO DO ONE MORE. NEXT ONE IS TRANSPARENCY ON AGENDAS.

TAKE A QUICK BREAK. YEAH, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

TEN MINUTE ADJOURNMENT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

LOOK AT THAT. 4:54 AND WE'RE DOING BETTER.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT A HUGE AGENDA LEFT TO GET THROUGH, SO WE'RE GOING TO PUSH AS HARD AS WE CAN.

WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER BREAK HERE BEFORE TOO LONG, I'M SURE.

INVITE EVERYONE TO STAY AS LONG AS YOU CAN.

BUT WE UNDERSTAND IF YOU CAN'T STAY.

SO THANK YOU, MR. HARTMAN, FOR THE EDUCATION AND THE UPDATE ON THAT ITEM.

I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TAKE NOTE OF IT AND PUT A GOOD POLICY IN PLACE TO MOVE FORWARD.

I AM GOING TO ASK ITEM SIX D, DISCUSS CITY COUNCIL AGENDAS AND TRANSPARENCY IF WE CAN PULL THAT ITEM OFF TODAY FOR DISCUSSION.

[6.D. Discuss City Council Agendas and Transparency]

THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY COUNCILMAN SIMPSON.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT HE WOULD LIKE MORE TIME TO TALK ABOUT.

AND THEN THIS AGENDA IS IS HEAVY ALREADY.

AND SO IT'S NOT TIME SENSITIVE.

WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.

COUNCILMAN SIMPSON AND I, THAT WAS ACTUALLY HIS REQUEST.

SO WE'RE GOOD TO JUST PUSH IT OFF ONE WEEK.

AND THEN THE WHOLE POINT OF THAT, JUST SO THE COMMUNITY HEARS US SAY THAT IS AS A COUNCILMAN, IT'S HARD IF YOU GET YOUR AGENDA FRIDAY AFTERNOON AT 4:00, SOMETIMES IT'S HARD FOR YOU GUYS AS CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO READ THAT OVER THE WEEKEND AND THEN YOU SHOW UP ON TUESDAY AND MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO

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RESEARCH, STUDY, ASK QUESTIONS, UNDERSTAND? SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR ARE WAYS TO FORECAST FUTURE AGENDAS IN AN OPEN MEETING FORUM SO THAT YOU, AS THE PUBLIC AND WE AS THE COUNCIL WOULD KNOW WHAT STAFF'S WORKING ON, THAT MAYBE DOESN'T COME UP FOR ANOTHER FOUR, SIX, EIGHT WEEKS.

AND SO WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THERE THAT STAFF WILL BRING TO US AND WE'LL DISCUSS ALL THAT AT THAT TIME.

SO JUST A LITTLE EXPLANATION OF WHAT THAT ITEM IS.

THAT'LL BE ON NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA.

MOVING ALONG TO SIX E UPCOMING BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND APPOINTMENTS, WE HAVE OUR CITY SECRETARY HERE TO EXPLAIN A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING UP.

[6.E. Discuss Upcoming Board and Commission Appointments]

MAYOR. OKAY, SO WE HAVE BOARD AND APPOINTMENT COMMISSIONS COMING UP IN NOVEMBER.

THE PROCESS STARTS NOW ONLINE.

COUNCIL MAY BE AWARE WE HAVE OVER 50 BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT CITIZENS SERVE ON IN MOSTLY AN ADVISORY CAPACITY.

WE HAVE A FEW BOARDS LIKE PLANNING AND ZONING AND SOME OTHERS THAT HAVE SOME REGULATORY CAPACITY TOO.

SO ANNUALLY, COUNCIL APPOINTS CITIZENS TO THESE BOARDS AND WE ARE STARTING THAT PROCESS IN SEPTEMBER BY KICKING OFF APPLICATIONS.

THIS IS A LIST OF ALL THE BOARDS THAT WILL HAVE UPCOMING VACANCIES.

SO THESE POSITIONS, THE TERMS WILL END DECEMBER AND WE'LL BE LOOKING TO EITHER REAPPOINT OR APPOINT NEW MEMBERS TO FILL THESE POSITIONS.

THERE'S OVER 50 POSITIONS THAT COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER AT YOUR NOVEMBER 14TH MEETING.

SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ON THE TIMELINE AND THE REASON WE WANTED TO GET IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT AS A COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS PROCESS AND TO LET THE PUBLIC KNOW IT'S TIME, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, TO GO APPLY.

AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE INTEREST IN SERVING ON THESE BOARDS.

SO APPLICATIONS ARE OPEN NOW ON OUR WEBSITE AND I'LL SHOW YOU HOW TO GET THERE ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE WILL HOLD THOSE OPEN THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH, SO WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE OVER A MONTH THERE FOR CITIZENS TO GO IN AND APPLY.

AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 14TH, AT THAT MEETING, YOU WILL MAKE APPOINTMENTS TO ALL THE OPEN POSITIONS AND THEN MEMBERS WILL BEGIN SERVING IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR.

SO FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN APPLYING, IT'S A VERY EASY GO TO WWW.AMARILLO.GOV.

AND THEN AT THE TOP UNDER THE HOW DO I RIBBON? IF YOU'LL HOVER OVER THAT IN THAT THIRD COLUMN OVER, THERE'S ONE, HOW DO I APPLY FOR A BOARD POSITION? AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT.

IT WILL TAKE YOU TO OUR ONLINE APPLICATION WHERE YOU'LL PUT IN SOME INFORMATION.

YOU CAN ATTACH A RESUME IF YOU'D LIKE TO, AND THEN YOU CAN SELECT UP TO THREE BOARDS THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SERVING IN.

SO WE WILL CLOSE THOSE APPLICATIONS ON OCTOBER 15TH, WORK WITH THE VARIOUS BOARD LIAISONS AND WORK TO GET A PACKET OF INFORMATION READY FOR COUNCIL TO HAVE.

USUALLY ABOUT A WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF BEFORE THAT BOARD MEETING WHERE YOU CONSIDER THEM.

SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH.

AND WITH THAT I WOULD ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS PROCESS.

QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

OKAY, MOVING ALONG.

[6.F. Discuss Mayor's Delegate to the Amarillo Metropolitan Planning Organization Board]

ITEM SIX F, I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DELEGATE TO ANOTHER CITY, COUNCILMAN, THE AMARILLO METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION BOARD.

SO WE HAVE TRAVIS MUNOZ HERE, WHO IS OUR DIRECTOR, AND SO ON THIS ITEM, I JUST NEED TO SEE IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THIS BOARD WITH ME. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, TRAVIS, BUT YOU NEED TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, JUST ONE COUNCIL MEMBER, AND THEN I DON'T COUNT MIC] SO I'LL SAY IT IN THE MIC.

SO IT'S CITY MANAGER, MAYOR AND A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO WE DO NEED TWO FROM COUNCIL ON THE BOARD.

OKAY. SORRY TO SAY THAT WRONG, BUT I DO NEED ONE ADDITIONAL COUNCIL MEMBER ON THIS.

OKAY. SO I WOULD JUST TELL YOU THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION WORKS HAND IN HAND WITH TXDOT AND EVERYTHING IN THAT VICINITY ALL THE WAY AROUND.

ARE WE FOR COUNTIES? TRAVIS IT'S JUST TWO COUNTIES.

POTTER AND RANDALL COUNTY. BUT IT'S IT'S BROAD IN, IN WHAT ITS IMPACTS ARE.

AND SO I'M LEARNING A GREAT DEAL.

I'VE ONLY GOT TO BE AT ONE MEETING SO FAR, BUT I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE MORE OF THEM.

AND SO ANYBODY THAT HAS AN INTEREST IN THAT, IT REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE GROWTH OF AMARILLO.

AND SO DO I HAVE ANY COUNCILMEN THAT ARE WILLING TO SERVE OR HAVE THE THE TIME TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD? I'D BE WILLING TO.

OKAY. COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN HAS NOMINATED HIMSELF, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT.

SO IF MISS CITY SECRETARY, IF YOU'LL PUT HIM DOWN AS THAT NOMINATION, I WOULD NOMINATE COUNCILMAN SCHERLEN OR DELEGATE THAT OVER TO HIM TO BE MY

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SECOND. OKAY.

THANK YOU, MAYOR. DO YOU DON'T NEED ANYTHING ON THAT FROM THE COUNCIL, RIGHT.

THIS IS JUST DIRECTION.

THIS IS JUST DIRECTION.

WE MIGHT NEED A LETTER FROM YOU.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO WORK WITH TRAVIS ON WHAT? WE NEED TO MAKE THAT DELEGATION REAL GOOD.

OKAY. ITEM SIX IS DISCUSSION ON A DRIVE THRU COMPONENT OF THE NEW CITY HALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

[6.G. Discuss the Drive-Through Component of the New City Hall Construction Project]

DEPUTY ANDREW FREEMAN.

YES, SIR. SO WE WANTED TO BRING BACK THIS CONVERSATION.

IT WAS DISCUSSED THROUGHOUT BUDGET PROCESS AS FAR AS OUR WALK IN TRAFFIC AND THE POTENTIAL USE OF A FUTURE DRIVE THRU AT CITY HALL.

WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE COST INVOLVED.

WE'RE IN THE PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WE COULD WE COULD PIVOT IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT DIRECTION THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO.

WE DO HAVE A PORTION OF THE STEEL PACKAGE ALREADY ORDERED BUT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INSTALLED AND THERE IS COST SAVINGS IF WE WANTED TO DELAY AND MAYBE WAIT AND SEE HOW MUCH USAGE WE WOULD GET.

SO THIS IS JUST A RENDERING OF WHAT THE DRIVE THRU COMPONENT WOULD LOOK LIKE THERE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THIS CANOPY WHERE YOU SEE THE SIGN AND THE PILLARS IS ACTUALLY STANDALONE, SO IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING.

IT SHOWS FOUR DROP DOWN VACUUM SYSTEMS OR VACUUMS IN PLACE TUBES FOR THE DRIVE THRU.

WE WERE ACTUALLY ONLY PLANNING ON THREE.

OVERALL, THE FOURTH WAS GOING TO BE A FREE FLOW LANE TO DRIVE THROUGH.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN A VISUAL OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

AND THEN THIS IS ANOTHER AERIAL SHOT OF IT.

SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT'S NOT ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING.

AND SOME OF THE OPTIONS WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU BASED ON Y'ALL'S DISCUSSION, IS THIS A NEED RIGHT NOW? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WEIGH AND EVALUATE LATER? ALL THOSE THINGS ARE ON THE TABLE.

WE COULD STILL STUB OUT THE UTILITIES.

WE COULD MAKE SURE THE BUILDING HAS THE SPOTS IN IT FOR A FUTURE VACUUM SYSTEM.

NONE OF THAT HAS TO HAPPEN TODAY.

IF THERE'S DIRECTION TO MAYBE HOLD OFF AND EVALUATE.

SO THE OPTIONS WE COULD DISCUSS, WE COULD KEEP IT AS IS, GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD ON THE PROJECT AS PLANNED.

HAVE THREE DRIVE THRUS AVAILABLE WITH THE FULL SYSTEM IN PLACE.

ANOTHER OPTION IS BUILD THE CANOPY ONLY DROP DOWN ONE TUBE, WHICH WOULD SAVE ABOUT $40,000 AND WE'D HAVE ONE DRIVE THRU LANE AND THEN THE FUTURE WE COULD ADD ON A COUPLE MORE DRIVE THRUS.

OR THE OTHER THIRD OPTION WOULD BE DON'T INSTALL THE CANOPY OR VACUUM SYSTEM AT THIS TIME.

HAVE IT PREPARED TO ADD IN THE FUTURE AND THAT WOULD SAVE APPROXIMATELY $342,000.

AND IF THAT WAS THE OPTION, I DID WANT TO SHARE WHAT WE COULD DO AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO STILL OFFER DRIVE THRU BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE MOBILE UNIT AVAILABLE THAT WE PARK IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS DEPENDING ON DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A PERMANENT HOME PER SE AT THIS POINT.

WE COULD RELOCATE IT AFTER CITY HALL IS BUILT AND PUT IT EXACTLY WHERE THE DRIVE THRU WAS PROPOSED AND THEN WE'D HAVE THE DRIVE THRU FUNCTIONALITY WITH SOMEONE OPERATING OUT OF THAT MOBILE UNIT AND THAT WOULD GIVE US TIME TO HAVE IT THERE.

LOCATED AT THE NEW CITY HALL TRACK ALL THE USAGE NUMBERS.

IF WE HAPPEN TO TAKE IT OFF SITE SOMEWHERE TO WORK IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE COULD HAVE A SIGN OUT THAT SAID THE DRIVE THRU IS CLOSED.

PLEASE COME SEE US INSIDE AND WE JUST TRACK ALL THAT, ALL THAT DATA OVER TIME TO SEE IF THERE'S REALLY STRONG DEMAND FOR A DRIVE THRU AT CITY HALL.

SO THAT IS REALLY THE PRESENTATION.

WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK OR POTENTIAL DIRECTION BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT STEP IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

I THINK MR. MAYOR IS IT OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DROP THE $342,000 COMPLETELY OFF THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME AND WE CAN USE THE TRAILER IF WE NEED IT. WE'RE NOT EVEN USING THE TRAILER NOW, ARE WE? WE ARE. IT IS STILL STAGED AND USED.

YES, SIR. OKAY. BUT AS FAR AS THE 342,000, I THINK WE'D USE THAT MONEY ELSEWHERE.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

GOT ANYTHING THERE? WELL, I JUST GO BACK AND I GUESS THIS CAME UP JUST, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES US AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF STAFFING AND RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO INTAKE PEOPLE PAYING THEIR UTILITY BILLS.

AND OF COURSE, WE WANT THEM TO PAY THEIR BILLS.

BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER UTILITIES, YOU KNOW, NO, NO OTHER UTILITIES ARE GENERALLY OFFERING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PAY THE WAY THEY WANT YOU TO PAY IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE SERVICES. SO, YOU KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE COULD BE THE POTENTIAL FOR SAVINGS IN THIS AND REALLOCATION IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE JUST IF WE LOOK AT THAT ISSUE, THE COST. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE COST OF, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE DRIVE THRUS IN, YOU KNOW, I'VE LEARNED YOU CAN GO AND PAY YOUR UTILITY BILLS, I GUESS AT OTHER PLACES LIKE TOOT'N TOTUM AMARILLO NATIONAL BANK.

I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER PLACES TO PAY.

AND I'M SURE PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN IN THE HABIT OF DOING THAT.

BUT FOR ME, IT'S THE POTENTIAL COST SAVINGS TO REALLOCATE NOT ONLY ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS, BUT REALLOCATING OPERATIONALLY BECAUSE WE'RE

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SPENDING YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF I KNOW ON THE SIDE OF THE VITAL STATISTICS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE YOU CAN'T DO THAT BY MAIL THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO COME IN.

BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, I THINK, TO ENCOURAGE IT, JUST ALLOW US TO REALLOCATE THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK AND, YOU KNOW, OUR OWN DESIGN STANDARDS SAY DOWNTOWN IS NOT A PLACE FOR DRIVE THRUS.

WE WOULD GENERALLY NOT ALLOW OTHER BUSINESSES TO BUILD DRIVE THRUS AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE URBAN AREAS LIKE THIS.

SO I WOULD YOU KNOW, FOR THAT I'D BE IN FAVOR OF DISCONTINUING IT.

YES, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE? I'LL REMIND YOU THE FUNDING. IT'S A THIRD GENERAL FUND, A THIRD TAX NOTE, AND A THIRD UTILITY REVENUES.

SO IF WE DID REALLOCATE, IT COULD BE GENERAL FUND.

SO IT COULD GO TOWARD THE PROJECT, COULD MAYBE GO TOWARD DIFFERENT PROJECTS, ONE TIME EXPENDITURES PRETTY EASY THERE.

OKAY. QUESTIONS ON THIS SIDE.

I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I MEAN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR DIRECTION, I MEAN, MY OPINION WOULD BE IS.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T I REALLY DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR A DRIVE THRU.

OKAY. ANYTHING.

COUNCILMAN TIPPS.

I AGREE. I DON'T SEE THE NEED FOR IT.

I DON'T. I THINK THERE'S OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DO.

WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW DEPUTY FREEMAN IS WORKING AND ENGAGING WITH ALL THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS ON THE TABLE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS BROUGHT UP, HEY, DO WE NEED FOR DRIVE THRU LANES? YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THE CONVERSATION STARTED WITH, WELL, ARE WE GOING TO HAVE THREE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES LOOKING OUT THOSE WINDOWS WHILE NO ONE'S IN THAT LANE OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DEMAND FOR TRAFFIC FLOW? COULD WE COULD WE PULL UP BEHIND THE CAR IN FRONT OF US AND WAIT, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR MINUTES AND THEN PULL THROUGH? WOULD THAT BE STILL ACCOMPLISHING OUR GOAL OF CUSTOMER SERVICE? AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DEPUTY FREEMAN BROUGHT TO US THE OPTION OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALLY AN OPTION TO MAKE THE THING SMALLER RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, THE STEEL PACKAGE AND EVERYTHING'S ALREADY READY TO GO.

WE HAVE DESIGNS LIKE THIS, SO IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO HAVE A 40 FOOT LONG SINGLE DRIVE THROUGH AWNING.

SO IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO MORE OF LIKE, WHERE IS YOUR MONEY BEST SPENT AS OUR TAXPAYERS AND CITIZENS? AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO NET GAIN $350,000 AND STILL HAVE THE DRIVE UP MOBILE UNIT.

SO I MEAN, IF YOU ARE THE THE INDIVIDUAL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOUR KIDS IN THE CAR AND YOU DON'T WANT TO GET ALL THREE OF THEM OUT TO GO INSIDE TO PAY THAT BILL, YOU STILL HAVE THE DRIVE UP OPPORTUNITY WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR VEHICLE.

I FEEL LIKE THAT ACCOMPLISHES OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THEN THAT GOES TOWARDS SOME GOOD STEWARDSHIP.

I WON'T TAKE ANY OF THE CREDIT FOR THAT.

I KNOW THE OTHER COUNCILMAN BROUGHT THAT UP AND THEN IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF DEPUTY FREEMAN AND STAFF WORKING TOGETHER TO LOOK AT THIS AND BEING WILLING TO MAKE CHANGES EVEN THIS LATE IN THE GAME. I MEAN, I KNOW FROM CONSTRUCTION YOU DON'T LIKE ALL THOSE LAST MINUTE CHANGES, BUT THIS ONE IS ONE THAT THEY CAN ACCOMPLISH IN THE FIELD PRETTY WELL.

AND OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR MET WITH HIM TODAY AND SAID OR HIS PROJECT MANAGER AND THEY'RE VERY ACCOMMODATING.

SO DO YOU NEED ANY FURTHER DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL? VERY CLEAR. OKAY.

APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

THANK YOU, SIR. SIR. OKAY.

[6.H. Request future agenda items and reports from City Manager.]

ITEM SIX IS A REQUEST FOR ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO PUT ON FOR NEXT WEEK? I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT PAID PARKING DOWNTOWN, WHETHER IT REALLY PAYS FOR ITSELF OR WHETHER WE NEED TO DO AWAY WITH IT.

OKAY. PAID PARKING DOWNTOWN.

DEPUTY FREEMAN.

OKAY. ANY OTHER ITEMS FROM COUNCIL? NO, SIR. OKAY.

MOVING ALONG. WE DO HAVE OUR CONSENT AGENDA, AND IT'S A BIG ONE AS WELL.

[7. Consent Items]

SO DO I HAVE ANYTHING THAT ANYBODY NEEDS FURTHER DISCUSSION ON PULLED OFF.

WE COULD VOTE ON INDEPENDENTLY ON CONSENT IF ANY COUNCIL SEES THE NEED.

I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE TO REVIEW IT AND LOOK BACK THROUGH IT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING? SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION OR DO I HAVE TO TAKE IT OFF THE CONSENT TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT IT? YOU CAN ASK A QUESTION. WE CAN TRY TO GET YOU AN ANSWER BEFORE WE PULL IT.

SO AND I KNOW THIS CAME UP ONCE BEFORE, BUT THE ADVERTISING FOR THE AMARILLO GLOBE-NEWS AND THE CONTRACT NOT TO I THINK IT'S A NOT TO EXCEED.

IS THAT FOR LEGAL ADVERTISING OR IS THERE EMPLOYMENT ADVERTISING OR IS IT JUST LEGAL.

YES LEGAL NOTICES AND NOTICES? SO IT'S THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED BY LAW AND THEN WE ESTIMATE THAT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT IT WAS.

I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK.

ANYTHING ELSE? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CONSENT.

PLEASE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED.

I SECOND. OKAY.

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I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON CONSENT AGENDA.

DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

WE'RE GOING TO FLIP 18 PAGES.

JUST KIDDING.

WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR NON CONSENT PORTION OF OUR AGENDA.

[8.A. PUBLIC HEARING ON FISCAL YEAR 2023/2024 BUDGET: This Budget will raise more revenue from property taxes than last year’s budget by $5,027,106 which is a 8.06% increase from last year’s budget. The property tax revenue to be raised from new property added to the tax roll this year is $1,412,409. (Contact: Laura Storrs, Assistant City Manager and CFO)]

ITEM EIGHT A IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

SO AT THIS MOMENT, WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, IF I COULD GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION, THIS WILL GO TOWARDS THIS ITEM WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET AND THEN ALSO TOWARDS THE NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE FIRST READING ON THE BUDGET.

WE ARE ALSO GOING TO CONDUCT ONE MORE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE BUDGET NEXT WEEK, ON TUESDAY, AND ALONG WITH A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TAX RATE.

SO LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIZENS IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS.

SO I HAVE A VERY SHORT PRESENTATION, I PROMISE.

AND I KNOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS WE WENT OVER DURING BUDGET REVIEW, BUT THIS ONE IS GOING TO BE VERY, VERY CONDENSED.

SO I WANTED TO START OFF WITH JUST SAYING THANK YOU TO THE FIVE OF YOU.

WE TOOK A DEEP DIVE INTO BUDGET THIS YEAR.

I THINK WE SPENT SOMEWHERE AROUND 7 OR 8 FULL DAYS DIGGING THROUGH A DOCUMENT THAT, AS IT'S FILED RIGHT NOW, IS OVER 800 PAGES LONG.

SO IT'S IT'S QUITE AN UNDERTAKING.

AND SO REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS, THE TIME, THE INPUT THAT YOU ALL BROUGHT TO THE TABLE AS WE WORKED THROUGH IT, ESPECIALLY SINCE ALL OF YOU ARE NEW TO YOUR ROLE.

SO I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS HERE.

IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT YOU ALL WANT TO BRING UP THAT I DIDN'T HIGHLIGHT ON THIS, ABSOLUTELY FEEL FREE TO.

SO ALSO WANTED TO MENTION TO OUR CITIZENS THAT THESE THE BUDGET REVIEW MEETINGS WERE LIVE STREAMED IT'S RECORDED IF YOU WANT TO WATCH ALL THOSE LONG DAYS THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND ALSO JUST OFFER UP THAT I AM AVAILABLE ANY TIME.

IF A CITIZEN HAS ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO GO OVER THE BUDGET IN MORE DETAIL WITH THEM.

SO AGAIN, VERY HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT SOME THINGS THAT WERE ACHIEVED THIS YEAR THROUGH OUR BUDGET THAT IS PROPOSED AND FILED ONLINE.

RIGHT NOW THERE IS FUNDING IN THERE FOR THREE NEW FIRE DISTRICT CHIEFS AND FOR AN AIRCRAFT RESCUE TRAINING FACILITY AS A REMINDER, THAT AIRCRAFT TRAINING FACILITY, IT IS AROUND $4 MILLION AND THE CITY IS LOOKING TO ONLY PUT 10% OF THAT TOWARDS IT.

THE REST IS ALL GRANT FUNDING.

SO THAT'S A HUGE WIN IN THIS BUDGET.

THE NEXT ITEM IS FUNDING.

THERE'S FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR 4 ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS.

THOSE ARE ALSO PARTIALLY GRANT FUNDED ALONG WITH THE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE OFFICERS.

AND THEN FOR ADDITIONAL POLICE, CIVILIAN PERSONNEL THAT ARE REALLY HELPING TO SUPPORT THOSE POLICE OFFICERS, MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE OFFICERS WHERE THEY NEED TO BE AND THE CIVILIANS WORKING THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ADDITIONAL DUTIES.

WE DO ALSO HAVE OVER $28 MILLION IN STREET PROJECTS IN THIS FILED BUDGET.

TWO OF THE BIG ONES TO HIGHLIGHT ARE THE NORTHEAST 24TH RAILROAD OVERPASS PROJECT.

THAT PROJECT IS IN TOTAL ABOUT $11.4 MILLION.

THE BULK OF THAT COMES FROM GRANT FUNDING AS WELL.

BUT WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT MATCH TO PUT TOWARDS IT.

AND YOU ALL IN THE BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE PUT TOGETHER ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT.

THE OTHER ONE, THE OTHER LARGE SCALE ONE IS THE BARRIOS SOUTHEAST 10TH STREET STREETSCAPE PROJECT, AND THAT IS A TOTAL OF FIVE AND ONE HALF MILLION.

SAME THING, SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF GRANT FUNDING, BUT WE DID HAVE TO PUT A MATCH IN AND YOU ALL WERE WILLING TO PUT THE FUNDS TOGETHER TOWARDS THAT.

THE NEXT ITEM TO HIGHLIGHT IS THAT WE DO HAVE INCREASED FUNDING IN OUR SOLID WASTE AREA, AND THAT IS FOR A DEDICATED DUMPSTER REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.

THAT'S TO TRY TO PUT THESE ON A 13 YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE, WHICH IS A HUGE IMPROVEMENT FROM WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE WITH THE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE PREVIOUSLY.

THE NEXT TWO BIG ITEMS TO HIGHLIGHT ARE THERE'S $33 MILLION IN WATER AND SEWER PROJECTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF FUNDING AVAILABLE TO START REALLY DESIGNING AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT FLOYD SPOKE ABOUT IN DETAIL EARLIER IN THAT 33 MILLION ALSO THERE'S $46 MILLION IN DRAINAGE PROJECTS ALSO IS DISCUSSED.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DAMAGES JUST FROM THE FLOOD THAT OCCURRED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AND SO THIS IS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT AND TO HELP PUT OUR COMMUNITY IN A BETTER SITUATION IF WE WERE TO INCUR THOSE KINDS OF FLOODS IN THE FUTURE.

SO JUST LOTS OF WINS IN THOSE PROJECTS.

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ANOTHER ITEM IS THERE'S A $4.5 MILLION AMOUNT THAT'S BEEN ALLOCATED AS SORT OF A WORKING BUDGET.

SO IT'S EARMARKED FOR KIND OF COUNCIL PRIORITIES THAT START COMING UP THROUGH THE YEAR.

AS I MENTIONED, VERY COMPLEX BUDGET, LARGE BUDGET.

YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB DIGGING THROUGH IT.

BUT I HEARD OVER AND OVER, Y'ALL WANT TO KEEP LOOKING THROUGH THE BUDGET, KEEP WORKING ON THIS BUDGET SO THIS SETS ASIDE SOME FUNDING.

ALSO, AS WE'VE KIND OF WALKED THROUGH AN INTERESTING TIME WITH SALES TAX, THAT'S KIND OF EARMARKING THOSE DOLLARS, KIND OF HOLDING THEM ASIDE TO ENSURE WE ACHIEVE THEM BEFORE THEY KIND OF GET ALLOCATED OUT TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A NEW THING IN THIS BUDGET THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THE LAST THING JUST TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT HERE ON THIS BUDGET HIGHLIGHT IS THAT THERE'S BEEN A 30% COLA PUT IN FOR OUR RETIREES THAT ARE IN THE TMRS SYSTEM.

AND SO CERTAINLY TAKING CARE OF EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE SERVED THE CITY VERY WELL OVER THE YEARS.

AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO TALK MORE ON MY NEXT PRESENTATION ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES THAT PLAYS HAND IN HAND WITH A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

SO IF YOU THINK I SKIPPED OVER SOMETHING, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT THROUGH PROPERTY TAXES AS WELL.

THE NEXT SLIDE HERE IS LOOKING AT TOTAL EXPENDITURES ON THE BUDGET.

SO IN OUR CURRENT YEAR APPROVED BUDGET, WE WERE AT 490.8 MILLION.

THAT'S FOR THE WHOLE CITY.

THE GENERAL FUND, ALL OUR GRANTS, WATER AND SEWER, DRAINAGE, AIRPORT, EVERYTHING.

ALL IS ONE. IT'S 490.8 MILLION.

THE CHANGE TO WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR PROPOSED UPCOMING BUDGET IS 40.2 MILLION, BRINGING US IN AT A TOTAL OF $531 MILLION.

BUT AS A REMINDER, WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THAT IS EARMARKED FOR CAPITAL TO ADDRESS A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

THAT'S OVER $135 MILLION OF THIS 531 THAT'S JUST LOOKING TO ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE'VE TALKED TIME AND TIME AGAIN ABOUT NEEDING TO EITHER REPLACE OR REPAIR INFRASTRUCTURE CHALLENGES.

SO, AGAIN, KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH WHAT DID WE GET WITH THIS CHANGE? AS I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE FIRE DISTRICT CHIEFS THAT AIRCRAFT TRAINING FACILITY.

WE'VE GOT FOUR POLICE OFFICERS, FOUR CIVILIAN POSITIONS, A COLA FOR OUR RETIREES, SOLID WASTE, DEDICATED DUMPSTER REPLACEMENT, THE WORKING BUDGET, AND THEN LOTS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.

BUT ON TOP OF THAT, WE DO WE ARE CONTINUING TO SEE INCREASED UTILITY COSTS, FUEL COSTS.

AND SO ALL OF THAT RELATED TO INFLATION WAS BUILT INTO THIS CHANGE IN THIS BUDGET AS WELL.

SO HOW DID WE PAY FOR IT? SO LOOKING ON THE REVENUE SIDE, SO OUR CURRENT YEAR APPROVED REVENUE BUDGET IS $455.4 MILLION.

SO WE WALK THAT FORWARD, 40.1 MILLION AND WE COME TO OUR TOTAL PROPOSED THIS UPCOMING YEAR OF $495.5 MILLION.

SO A COUPLE OF THINGS TO HIGHLIGHT ON THAT.

SO SALES TAX, I KIND OF JUST TALKED ABOUT THAT SALES TAX.

WE'VE CONTINUED TO SEE EXTREME GROWTH RELATED TO IT.

WE DID SEE A DOWNWARD TURN THIS LAST THIS PRIOR MONTH.

THERE WERE SOME AUDIT ADJUSTMENTS THAT CAME THROUGH AND SO CERTAINLY HAD AN IMPACT ON IT.

BUT WE'VE GOT IT BUILT IN THE BUDGET.

IT'S UP ABOUT $7.9 MILLION.

BUT AGAIN, KIND OF RESERVING PART OF THAT TO THE SIDE AS A WORKING AMOUNT TO BE ALLOCATED IF ACHIEVED.

AND IF NOT, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT FURTHER.

PROPERTY TAXES.

SO WHAT'S BUILT INTO THE BUDGET WILL ACHIEVE ABOUT $4 MILLION MORE FOR OPERATIONS, BUT THAT IS STILL ABOUT A MILLION LESS THAN WHAT COUNCIL COULD HAVE GONE FORWARD WITH, ACCORDING TO STATE LAW.

AND SO WHAT WE DISCUSSED ON OUR LAST DAY OF BUDGET REVIEW WAS PULLING DOWN THAT MAX TAX RATE, TAKING $1 MILLION, SETTING IT ASIDE AND WORKING ON ISSUING SOME DEBT TO SUPPORT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STREET PROJECTS.

SO OVER $13 MILLION IN STREET PROJECTS.

AND SO THAT IS BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET AS WELL.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES HERE IN A MINUTE.

ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, THERE WAS A LOT OF RESTRUCTURING OF FEES TO SIMPLIFY AND THEN ALIGN WITH FULL COST RECOVERY TO THOSE THAT ARE USING THE PROGRAMS. NOW, THERE IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN COMING UP RECENTLY THAT WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, ABOUT THE IN-HOME DAYCARE CENTERS.

WE DID NOT TALK IN DEPTH AT ALL ABOUT THAT DURING BUDGET.

THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FEES AND RESTRUCTURING AND KIND OF BOUNCING SOME IDEAS AROUND.

AND SO I THINK WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS KIND OF PULL THAT OFF FOR NOW, NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT ON THE IN-HOME SIDE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, BRING IT BACK THROUGH THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE AND DISCUSS IT FURTHER WITH COUNCIL AT THAT POINT AND KIND OF GET SOME WEIGH IN ON IT.

SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

SOLID WASTE RATES.

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SO ON WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, SO TYPICAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS WOULD SEE ABOUT A $1.70 PER MONTH INCREASE.

THAT'S TO HELP FUND THAT DEDICATED DUMPSTER REPLACEMENT.

A PROGRAM. WE WOULD ALSO SEE AN INCREASE ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE OF ABOUT 20%.

AND THE LANDFILL TIPPING FEES GO UP ABOUT 9% ON YOUR WATER AND SEWER RATES.

SO WE TALKED THROUGH SOME OPTIONS ON THAT.

WE HAD ACTUALLY PROPOSED SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND YOU ALL CAME BACK AND SAID, NO, WE WANT TO TRY TO NOT AFFECT THE RESIDENTIAL TYPICAL METERS.

AND SO THOSE THE COMMON METERS THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE ACROSS THE COMMUNITY ARE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY KIND OF AN INCREASE ON THEIR BASE RATE AND FOR USE UP TO 3000 GALLONS.

BUT THEN IF THERE'S USE BEYOND THAT, IT GOES UP INTO OUR TIERED USAGE SYSTEM.

THERE'S GOING TO BE A 6% INCREASE ON THOSE TIRZ AND THEN ALSO ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE AND THEN ALL THE LARGER METERS WOULD WOULD ALSO SEE THAT 6% INCREASE AND THEN OUR DRAINAGE RATES.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS FOR TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS WOULD SEE A $1.58 PER MONTH INCREASE AND AGAIN, THAT GETS, YOU KNOW, OVER $40 MILLION IN ESSENTIAL DRAINAGE PROJECTS THAT HELP ADDRESS SOME OF WHAT'S OCCURRED AND HELP PREPARE US AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR DRAINAGE INCIDENTS COMING FORWARD.

SO WHAT COMES NEXT FROM A BUDGET STANDPOINT? SO AGAIN, WE'RE DOING TWO THINGS.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A PUBLIC HEARING SO PEOPLE CAN COME SPEAK.

THERE'S NO ACTION FROM COUNCIL ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.

THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE FIRST READING ON THE ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.

SO THAT'S THE ITEM RIGHT AFTER THIS ONE.

YOU ALL WILL TAKE A VOTE AND WE'LL RECORD THAT VOTE.

SO WE'RE KIND OF FORMAL ON HOW THIS HAS TO BE DONE.

IT'S ALL DICTATED BY STATE LAW.

THEN NEXT TUESDAY ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, WE'LL COME BACK HERE AT 3 P.M.

WE'LL DO ANOTHER BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE SECOND AND FINAL READING AND RECORD THE VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE APPROVING THE BUDGET. SO WE HAVE LOTS OF INFORMATION ONLINE@AMARILLO.GOV.

THERE ARE BUDGETS POSTED OUT THERE.

WE'VE POSTED NOTICES IN THE NEWSPAPER ABOUT PUBLIC HEARINGS.

AND I'LL TOUCH A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

BUT I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR COUNCIL.

WE TALKED ABOUT HOW STATE LAW ALLOWS YOU TO GO UP TO THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE ON AUGUST 15TH YOU ALL TOOK A VOTE TO SAY THAT'S THE HIGHEST WE WOULD GO UP TO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN STILL ADOPT SOMETHING LOWER.

AFTER THAT WE MET AGAIN FOR BUDGET REVIEW AND YOU ALL TALKED ABOUT PULLING THAT DOWN SOME AND RESERVING $1 MILLION, NOT UTILIZING IT IN THE TAX RATE AND THEN LOOKING AT DOING A FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCE TO SUPPORT STREETS.

SO EVERYTHING THAT'S POSTED IN OUR AGENDA ONLINE AND IN THE NEWSPAPERS WAS ALL ON THAT VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, THE HIGHEST RATE.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THAT'S THE ONLY ONE YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN A FORMAL VOTE ON UP TO THIS POINT.

SO THE NOTICES THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE ACTUALLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN THIS BUDGET NOW BECAUSE WE TOOK DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL THAT YOU WERE LOOKING TO PULL THAT BACK, BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO GO UP TO THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.

BUT WE'VE PUT INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKETS WHEN WE GET TO THE TAX ITEM THAT ALLOWS YOU, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT APPROVING THAT LOWER RATE PER THE DIRECTION WE GOT THE LAST DAY OF BUDGET REVIEW.

SO WITH THAT, SO THAT'S A VERY HIGH LEVEL LOOK AT A VERY LARGE BUDGET.

BUT ARE THERE QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER OR THINGS THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MAYBE I DIDN'T COVER? QUESTION. NOTHING ON THIS SIDE.

CAN WE GO BACK TO GO A COUPLE OF SLIDES BACK.

JUST LOOKING AT ONE MORE.

YEAH. YES. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, OKAY, WHAT WE SPENT LAST YEAR AND WHAT WE SPENT THIS YEAR, I MEAN, PART OF THAT, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE AIRCRAFT TRAINING FACILITY THAT'S IN THIS $531 MILLION FIGURE.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO BUT IT'S NOT TAXPAYER.

IT'S NOT LOCAL TAXPAYERS MONEY.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY.

WHEN YOU SEE THIS GOING UP THAT MUCH.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST TAKING ALL OF OUR LOCAL TAXING RESOURCES AND RAISING THE TAXES THAT AMOUNT.

I MEAN, IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S INCORPORATED IN THIS BUDGET OR LIKE YOU MENTIONED, SOME OF THE MATCHES AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO YES, BECAUSE WHEN I SAID, WELL, I THOUGHT WE DID A LOT OF WORK AND WHEN I SAY, WELL, WE GO FROM 490 TO 431, YOU KNOW, BUT BUT THAT INCLUDES A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE JUST PART OF OUR BUDGET REVENUE SOURCES OUTSIDE OF THE TRADITIONAL ONES.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND YOU KNOW, THIS EXPENSE BUDGET, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S EVERYTHING.

SO IT'S ALL THE GRANT SPENDING THAT YOU'LL DO.

SO TO YOUR POINT, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON, YOU KNOW, WITH YOU ALL PUTTING UP A 10% MATCH, WHICH WE'RE ESTIMATING IS ABOUT 380,000, YOU ALL ARE GOING

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TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A $4 MILLION PROJECT.

SO THE 4 MILLION IS IN, YOU KNOW, IN THERE ON THE EXPENSE SIDE.

BUT THE BULK OF THAT IS COMING FROM GRANT FUNDING.

AND SO AGAIN, WE DON'T GET THE GRANT MONEY IF WE CAN'T PUT UP THE APPROPRIATE MATCH.

AND SO IT'S DEFINITELY TAKING THOSE TAX DOLLARS AND STRETCHING THEM VERY FAR BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING UP A VERY SMALL MATCH TO ACHIEVE A MUCH LARGER SCALE PROJECT.

SO YES, TO YOUR POINT, THIS HAS EVERYTHING IN ALL THE GRANT DOLLARS THAT ARE SPENT FROM ALL OF OUR VARIOUS GRANT PROGRAMS MAKE THIS UP.

BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN IT'S COMING FROM LOCAL PROPERTY TAX OR EVEN SALES TAX DOLLARS OR EVEN RATEPAYER DOLLARS.

IN A LOT OF CASES, THESE DOLLARS, SOME OF THESE DOLLARS ARE COMING FROM FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING AND FROM STATE GRANT FUNDING.

THANK YOU. YES. ANYTHING FURTHER OVER THERE? SO I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SELL IT, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE EXPLAINING IT WELL.

ONE WAY TO BREAK THIS DOWN IS, AND I THINK IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THIS IS IF WE LOOK AT THAT SINGLE MOM WITH THREE KIDS AND SHE'S LIVING IN THAT HOUSE AND SHE'S WORKING TWO JOBS.

WHAT DID WE INCREASE FOR HER? AND SO I KNOW THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET AS A WHOLE, IT IS TRULY A BALANCING ACT.

YOU KNOW, DO WE DO WE PUSH OUR WATER RATE UP A LITTLE BIT ON COMMERCIAL USERS AND HOLD IT ON RESIDENTIAL? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO.

AND I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD MOVE.

BUT THERE ARE SOME OFFSETTING REVENUES THAT HELP OVERALL.

BUT JUST TO TO BREAK THIS DOWN ON YOUR TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD THAT, YOU KNOW IS GOING TO HAVE A TAX INCREASE, MEANING YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE NOT FROZEN.

SO YOUR WATER AND SEWER RATES ARE GOING TO GOING TO HOLD THE SAME.

YOUR TRASH RATE WOULD GO UP $1.70 A MONTH.

YES, SIR. OKAY.

YOUR DRAINAGE FEE IS GOING TO GO UP $1.58 A MONTH.

YES, SIR. AND THEN YOUR TAX COST, LIKE ON A IF YOU OWN A $200,000 HOME, IT'S GOING TO GO UP.

IT'S ACTUALLY I HAVE IN MY PRESENTATION LESS THAN $2.

I THINK IT COMES IN ABOUT $1.55.

SO, YES, SO LESS THAN $2.

LET'S SAY IT'S $2 A MONTH.

YES. SO SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR AS YOUR REPRESENTATIVES.

WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PAY MORE FOR THAT TYPICAL HOUSEHOLD DOLLAR, $1.70, 1.58, $2.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT $5.50 MORE PER MONTH.

YOU KNOW, YOU FIGURE THAT OUT OVER THE YEAR.

SO THAT'S AN INCREASE.

NOW, I KNOW THAT IT IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL CITY AND DIFFERENT STRUCTURES AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

AND BELIEVE ME, IT HITS OUR BUDGET.

BUT I'VE HEARD AND YOU KNOW, HEY, OUR BUDGET USED TO BE $330 MILLION.

NOW OUR BUDGET IS $530 MILLION AND WE'RE GETTING THE SAME SERVICES.

MY TRASH STILL GETS EMPTIED TWICE A WEEK.

I STILL GET THE SAME TYPE OF WATER.

I STILL GET THIS. WE STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS.

THAT'S NOT REALLY TRUE.

YOU KNOW, THE THE COMMUNITY HAS GROWN QUITE A BIT, YOU KNOW, SO FROM 150,000 PEOPLE TO 200 PLUS THOUSAND PEOPLE, WE HAVE A GREATER COST IN PROVIDING THESE SERVICES.

YOU SHOULD GET WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR, THOUGH.

SO IN THE WAY OF THE LARGEST INCREASE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS YOUR DRAINAGE TAX, WE'RE TAKING THAT FROM WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE A SMALL FEE PER MONTH, YOU KNOW, $3.36 A MONTH, AND WE'RE INCREASING THAT $1.58.

WELL, THAT'S A HUGE PERCENTAGE.

THAT'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND BORROW $42 MILLION AND THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE THAT DRAINAGE FEE AGAIN.

SO I CAN'T SPEAK FOR FUTURE COUNCILS.

MAYBE THEY WOULD WANT TO MOVE IT, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO NICKEL AND DIME THAT ONE EVERY YEAR.

AND SO LIKE WE'VE BEEN ON A STEADY GROWTH TO INCREASE THAT OVER AND OVER AND OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO ACTUALLY GO OUT AND DRAMATICALLY IMPACT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WELL, THAT $42 MILLION GETS TO 25 PLUS PROJECTS ALL OVER THE COMMUNITY, AND WE HAVE GOOD ASSETS IN THE FORM OF HUMAN RESOURCES THAT WE NEED TO GET THEM WORKING ON FIXING AS MANY OF THESE PROBLEMS AS WE CAN.

YOU SAW THE THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT ISSUE.

I WOULDN'T ASK YOU FOR THE INCREASE IF I DIDN'T NEED IT.

AND BOTTOM LINE, I HAVE A 180 $200 MILLION PROBLEM AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

WE REALLY WANT TO LEAVE AMARILLO BETTER WHEN WE LEAVE FOR THE NEXT COUNCIL, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.

AND SO DO WE.

DO WE BALANCE THIS AS WELL AS WE CAN? I THINK WE ARE, EVEN THOUGH IT IS A TAX INCREASE.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP IN MIND, IF WE DON'T TAKE THE 3.5% INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO IN FOUR YEARS, A COUNCIL CAN TAKE A

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14% INCREASE.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS TAX INCREASE OF 3%, A LITTLE OVER 3%, WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE PUTTING LOTS OF GROCERIES IN THE CART WITH THIS WITH THIS MONEY, YOU CAN LOOK AND YOU CAN SEE WE GOT OURSELVES BACK IN THE TMRS COLA.

AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY THOUGHT WE COULD DO THAT WITHIN WITHOUT HAVING TO BRING IT TO YOU GUYS FOR A VOTE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING TO 10 MILLION PLUS IN STREET PROJECTS THAT WE CAN DO YEAR OVER YEAR.

I MEAN, I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN STREETS THAT NEED TO GET PAVED IN THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS TO KEEP US SOMEWHAT DRIVABLE.

SO YOU CAN JUST LOOK AND YOU CAN PINPOINT ONE AFTER THE NEXT.

BUT OVERALL, I WOULD HOPE TO BE ABLE TO TO FIND SOME SOME MORE EFFICIENCIES OVER THIS NEXT YEAR.

AND MAYBE WE DON'T NEED A TAX INCREASE NEXT YEAR.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK OUT HERE AND SAY, HEY, WE HELD YOUR TAXES FLAT.

I WOULD NEVER TELL YOU WE'RE GOING TO LOWER YOUR TAXES BECAUSE I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY THIS DEAL WORKS.

BUT IN THE WAY OF NOT RAISING YOUR TAXES, WE WOULD LOVE TO BE THE COUNCIL THAT SAYS, LOOK, WE DIDN'T RAISE TAXES.

HOWEVER, THAT WIN ISN'T WORTH IT.

IF I CAN'T GO TELL MY STAFF AND OUR STAFF, HEY, YOU GUYS HAVE WHAT YOU NEED NOW TO GO DO WORK AND GO GET TO ALL OF THESE PROJECTS AND TO FULFILL EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED AS BEST AS WE CAN.

SO IT'S A BALANCING ACT.

I ONLY SAY THAT TO JUST KIND OF PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR 55 OR $60 MORE PER YEAR.

YOU KNOW, ON THAT ON THAT MOST CRITICAL HOUSEHOLD WHERE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF YOU ASK THEM FOR $30 A MONTH MORE, THAT MEANS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE LUNCH MONEY OR THERE'S A MEMBERSHIP, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO DROP, YOU KNOW, FOR SOME OF THOSE THOSE INCOMES.

I THINK WHEN YOU SAY, HEY, IT'S $6 A MONTH, I THINK IT'S MUCH MORE REASONABLE.

AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPACTED PART OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR.

SO I SAY ALL THAT JUST TO KIND OF PUT IT IN A NUTSHELL.

AND THEN I WANT WE WANT TO LISTEN, WE WANT TO HEAR.

SO WE'VE MADE YOU GUYS SIT THROUGH LOTS OF DISCUSSION.

IT'S YOUR TURN AGAIN AS WE OPEN THIS UP TO A PUBLIC HEARING.

MISS LAURA STORRS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? I DO NOT. DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR.

I'LL BE RIGHT HERE IF WE NEED TO.

IF I NEED TO GET UP AND ANSWER ANYTHING.

THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU. I WOULD SAY ONE THING, MAYOR.

I MEAN, KIND OF THE IRONY OF THIS.

WHEN WE LOOK AT WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TODAY, I MEAN, IT'S COINCIDENTAL THAT IT CAME UP, BUT YOU SEE WHAT A LACK OF ATTENTION INVESTMENT CAN DO AND WHERE WE ARE.

AND WITH THIS, I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FIND PEOPLE MORE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE, YOU KNOW, SO BUT BUT I THINK IF WE DO NOT DO SOMETHING TO WORK ON THESE INVESTMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SERIOUS MORE PROBLEMS THAN THAT.

SO I YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'LL LISTEN FROM THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT THEY HEAR.

BUT I THINK AND EVEN IF YOU GO BACK DURING THE ELECTION, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ISSUES THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE ELECTION AND THE THINGS THAT PEOPLE WERE TELLING US ABOUT, WHICH WERE THAT WERE INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC SAFETY, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, I THINK THIS FUNDING PLAN REALLY ALIGNS WITH AT LEAST I THINK WHAT A LOT OF US WERE HEARING AS WELL. SO. SO AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO I SEE ANYONE THAT'S MOVING TOWARDS THE MICROPHONE? NO, HEY, STOP TALKING ABOUT JAMES SKANK.

THANK YOU FOR COMING AND TALKING TO US.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

SOMEBODY JUST UP HERE RIGHT NOW.

GO AHEAD. SOMEBODY SET THAT CLOCK FOR THIS GUY.

NAH, THAT'S OKAY.

HEY, I WON'T LAST LONG BECAUSE I'M JUST UP HERE.

I WATCHED YOU GUYS, AND I ADMIRE WHAT WENT ON.

YOU KNOW, I'VE TOLD EACH ONE OF YOU WHAT YOU'VE DUG INTO.

I'VE WATCHED DIFFERENT COUNCILS GO OVER DIFFERENT BUDGETS AND RUBBER STAMP THINGS THROUGH AND PUSH THINGS DOWN THE ROAD.

I'M LITERALLY GETTING GOOSEBUMPS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS.

WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING IN TO HELP YOU DO THAT.

SO TO WORK SO HARD AND I REALIZE THIS IS SAUSAGE MAKING AND IT'S BEEN TOUGH FOR YOU GUYS BECAUSE AS YOU PULLED BACK AND PUSHED IN AND AND SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE KNOWN ON THE RECORD.

THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE SHORTEST AMOUNT OF TIME THAT JAMES SPENT AT THE PODIUM.

THANK YOU, SIR.

DO HAVE ANYONE ELSE HERE? YES, SIR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK? I CAN'T STAND IT. I'M SORRY.

I'M TOM SCHIMPF AND I LIVE IN AMARILLO.

YES, SIR. AND GIVE THEM A TICKET TO GO TO CALIFORNIA.

NUMBER ONE. YOUR DRAINAGE FEE.

YES, SIR. I UNDERSTAND YOU CALL IT A FEE BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY A TAX.

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YOU CALLED IT A FEE SO YOU COULD TAX EVERYBODY.

AND WHEN YOU SAY WE'RE ONLY INCREASING IT A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME THE TRUTH.

THE SCHOOLS HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE.

THE CHURCHES HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE.

ALL THOSE FEES HAVE TO BE ADDED.

AND SO ISN'T THAT WHEN YOU'RE TAXING THE SCHOOL AND THEN THE SCHOOL RAISES THE TAXES ON ME? ISN'T THAT DOUBLE DIPPING? AND YOU'RE RAISING THE VALUE OF THE HOUSES.

THE CITY OF AMARILLO AND TAX EVALUATIONS AND TAX PROPERTY INCREASES INCREASE MY PROPERTY TAXES $658,000 ESTIMATE FOR THIS YEAR.

AND YOU TELL ME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

I CAN HARDLY WAIT.

BUT I CAN'T GET TOO CARRIED AWAY BECAUSE YOU GOT SO MANY POLICE OFFICERS HERE AND THERE ARE WEARING ARMORED VEST.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS PLACE WAS THAT TOUGH.

BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN KEEP ON.

AND I KNOW WE HAVE A PROBLEM IN 20 YEARS AGO, I GOT A PICTURE ON MY DESK OF MY SON FLOATING ON AN INNER TUBE AND [INAUDIBLE] LAKE, AND I WAS TOLD BY THE CITY COUNCIL THEN WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO FIX THIS IN 20 YEARS AGAIN, HERE IT COMES.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM AND THEY NEED TO FIX THAT.

BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN KEEP ON AND ON AND ON.

SOMEBODY HAS TO SAY, WHOA.

AND I'VE BEEN THROWN OFF OF A HORSE AND IT HURTS.

BUT Y'ALL ARE KILLING US.

AND IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, Y'ALL HAVE INCREASED OUR BUDGET BY BUILDING OVERPASSES.

GOING TO IMPROVE POLK STREET.

AND I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT CITY DOESN'T EVER SOLVE A PROBLEM.

THEY JUST CREATE ANOTHER ONE.

AND I SOMEWHAT SOMETIMES I WISH SOMEBODY WOULD SAY I'M GOING TO LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE.

GOODBYE. THANK YOU, SIR.

WE'RE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN.

TOM, MAY I? WAS YOUR LAST NAME? SIMS. YOUR LAST NAME? SCHIMPF. HOW DO YOU SPELL THAT? SCHIMPF. THANK YOU.

SO I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

I DEFINITELY KNOW. I CALL IT A DRAINAGE TAX.

I KNOW IT'S A DRAINAGE FEE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE DRAINAGE BUSINESS, SIR, IN THE WAY OF, LIKE, OUR FLOOD PLAN.

AND THE AUTHORITY OVER THAT, YOU KNOW, REQUIRES THE MUNICIPALITY TO MITIGATE AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE.

AND THAT SYSTEM, 60 YEARS OLD.

AND I KNOW IF YOU AND I WERE DESIGNING IT, WE'D DESIGN IT TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

I DON'T THINK IT'S A GREAT SYSTEM, BUT IT IS THE SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN.

AND SO I DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT CHARGING YOU A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO NOT GET TO THE PROBLEM.

I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR A SERVICE, YOU SHOULD SEE SOMETHING OUT OF THAT.

AND SO LIKE RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE PAYING $3.30, LET'S SAY, ON AVERAGE.

AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT IT IS FOR LARGER PROPERTIES, BUT AS THAT RATE INCREASES, IF YOU KNOW, WHAT WE GOT TO WAS MARTIN ROAD.

AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT MARTIN ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD, IT DIDN'T FLOOD.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS OVER THERE THAT ARE, I'D SAY, MAJORITY UNINSURED FOR ANY KIND OF FLOOD DAMAGE.

AND WE DIDN'T SEE ANY FLOODING OVER THERE.

SO IT DID WORK.

BUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE'VE REVENUE ON THAT DIDN'T GET TO ENOUGH OF THE PROPERTIES.

AND SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE CAN PREVENT, YOU KNOW, A FLOOD FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT CAN RAIN MORE THAN WHAT OUR CAPACITIES ARE.

BUT THE CAPACITIES AT WHICH WE OPERATED AT DURING THIS LAST FLOODING EVENT WERE NOT SATISFACTORY.

AND SO IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT TOGETHER A BUDGET TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO GO OUT THERE TO FUNCTION CORRECTLY AND BRING THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE TO YOU.

BUT IT'S ALSO OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO TRY TO BALANCE THAT IN WHAT IS THE COST OF LIVING AND HOW DO WE APPROPRIATE THOSE MONIES AND STEWARD THEM AS BEST WE CAN.

BOTTOM LINE, TOM, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT BEING A BUSINESSMAN, I DON'T HAVE A WAY TO DO A GOOD JOB AND NOT CHARGE YOU ANY MONEY.

AND SO BEING ON THE GOVERNMENT SIDE, I DON'T HAVE A WAY OF REPRESENTING YOU AS YOUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVE AND TO NOT CHARGE YOU THE MONEY THAT I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE SERVICES. NOW, WHETHER I DELIVER ON THOSE SERVICES OR NOT, THAT'S THE ACCOUNTABILITY.

BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE PAYING A SERVICE OR YOU'RE PAYING FOR SOMETHING, YOU OUGHT TO GET WHAT YOU'RE PAYING FOR.

AND SO WE BELIEVE THIS BUDGET ACCURATELY REPRESENTS OUR BEST ABILITIES TO DELIVER ON THOSE SERVICES.

THE OVERALL COST OF WHAT IT COSTS TO LIVE TODAY, I BELIEVE, IS IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T KNOW ECONOMICALLY IS SUSTAINABLE.

AND I HAVE I HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE.

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BUT JUST LIKE IF YOU OWN A BUSINESS AND YOUR ELECTRIC BILL GOES UP TO RUN YOUR EQUIPMENT, YOU PASS THAT ALONG TO YOUR CUSTOMER.

WE'RE STUCK IN THE SAME SITUATION.

IT COST US AN ELECTRIC BILL OF $7 MILLION TO RUN A PLANT.

AND SO WE'VE WE'VE GOT TO CHARGE WHAT WE NEED TO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GETTING WATER AND SEWER.

I TOTALLY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I'M HAPPY TO VISIT WITH YOU FURTHER AFTER THIS, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU AT LEAST BEING WILLING TO COME IN HERE AND TELL US.

AND WE ARE LISTENING. I JUST DON'T KNOW OF A BETTER PATH FORWARD.

THIS IS A BALANCE.

AND IF I COULD GO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE WAY, RIGHT, I WOULD.

BUT LIKE WE HAVE TO BALANCE THE TEETER TOTTER HERE.

DO I HAVE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK HERE TODAY? OKAY, SO HEARING NO ONE OR SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE OUR PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 8 A, THIS THIS ITEM REQUIRES NO ACTION.

SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM EIGHT B AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 8068.

[8.B. CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8068]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO ON THIS ONE, I WILL JUST USE THE LAST PRESENTATION AS WHAT SPEAKS TO THIS ONE AS WELL.

SO IF THERE'S OTHER QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.

BUT THIS IS THE FIRST ACTION THAT REQUIRES A VOTE BY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO SET THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED.

AND WE WILL HAVE THE SECOND AND FINAL READING NEXT WEEK.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING NEXT WEEK.

SO IF CITIZENS WANT TO COME OUT AND SPEAK, THEY CERTAINLY ARE ABLE AND I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME DRAFT MOTION LANGUAGE THERE FOR YOU.

JUST BECAUSE STATE LAW HAS SOME SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS AS WE WORK THROUGH BUDGET APPROVALS AND TAX RATE APPROVALS.

SO AND MAKE SURE WE GET THE VOTES RECORDED CORRECTLY.

SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THERE MAY BE.

SO JUST TO CLARIFY, ITEM EIGHT B IS JUST THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED? YES. ITEM EIGHT C WILL BE THE TAX RATE.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND I'LL DO A SEPARATE PRESENTATION ON THAT.

SO ALL ALL WE'RE MOVING ON RIGHT NOW AND VOTING ON IS THE BUDGET.

THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED? THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

AND THEN DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ON THE BUDGET ITSELF THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO BACK THROUGH, LOOK AT QUESTION OR THE WAY IN WHICH THIS BUDGET HAS BEEN PRESENTED? NOT SURE. SO ONLY CLARIFICATION THAT I WOULD SAY JUST SO WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD CORRECTLY, THE AMOUNT THAT IS REPRESENTED IN ITEM EIGHT A. WITH THE RATE THAT WAS TIED TO IT IS NOT WHAT WE WILL PROPOSE ON ITEM EIGHT C.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT MEANS THAT ITEM EIGHT B, YOU'VE CHANGED THE BUDGET IN ORDER TO REFLECT THE AMOUNT WHICH IS LOWER ON THE TAX RATE TO COINCIDE WITH ITEM EIGHT C.

THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

YES. AND WE GAVE YOU ON ITEM EIGHT C, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN A SECOND.

BUT WE GAVE YOU OPTIONS.

IT'S ALL POSTED.

THE LEGAL LANGUAGE POSTED ON THE AGENDA IS AT THAT HIGHER RATE.

BUT AS YOU JUST MENTIONED, WE WENT AHEAD AND BUILT THE BUDGET AT THE LOWER RATE BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF THE DIRECTION WE WERE HEARING DURING BUDGET REVIEW.

AND THEN WE'LL ALLOW YOU GUYS TO TAKE ACTION ON THE LOWER ONE IF YOU'D LIKE.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM EIGHT B? NO, MAYOR, AT THIS TIME WE NEED A MOTION ON ITEM EIGHT B.

WELL, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH REFLECTS AN INCREASE IN REVENUE DERIVED FROM THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUES OVER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMAN TIPPS.

I HAVE A SECOND BY COUNCILMAN CRAFT.

AT THIS TIME WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR A RAISING OF YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED.

THAT ITEM PASSES WITH THE RECORDED VOTE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT C.

[8.C. CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8069 APPROVING THE CITY OF AMARILLO TAX ROLL, SETTING AN AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX RATE AND LEVYING A TAX ON ALL PROPERTY SUBJECT TO TAXATION WITHIN THE CITY FOR THE 2023 TAX YEAR]

OKAY. ITEM EIGHT C IS THE FIRST READING OF THE ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

SO STATE LAW OUTLINES YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON A BUDGET FIRST, AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON A PROPERTY TAX RATE.

SO WE'VE ALREADY GONE OVER SOME OF THIS, I PROMISE.

I KEPT THIS ONE SHORT AND SWEET AS WELL.

SO AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, STATE LAW ALLOWS FOR APPROXIMATELY A 3.5% INCREASE IN OPERATING REVENUES GENERATED FROM THE PROPERTY TAX YEAR OVER YEAR.

THAT'S THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE.

AND AGAIN, WHAT IS ALL IN THE POSTED AGENDAS AND ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WERE POSTED IN THE NEWSPAPER AND ONLINE, IF YOU GO ABOVE THAT, IT WOULD HAVE CAUSED YOU TO GO TO AN ELECTION. AND AND AGAIN, STATE LAW OUTLINES ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT PROPERTY OWNERS KNOW ABOUT THEIR TAXES.

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THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THAT.

SO WE'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT PROPERTY TAX RATES.

SO ON THAT BLUE ARROW, YOU'LL SEE OUR CURRENT 2022 PROPERTY TAX RATE IS 40.628 CENTS. SO THE ACTION, THE FORMAL ACTION YOU ALL HAVE TAKEN SO FAR RELATED TO THE PROPERTY TAX RATE WAS TO VOTE ON A TOP END.

THE STATE TOP END IS THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE, AND THAT IS THE 39.867 CENTS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU CAN GO UP TO WITHOUT AN ELECTION.

NOW, THAT THIRD ONE WE'RE CALLING THAT THE 2023 TAX RATE OPTION, THAT IS THE ONE THAT IT WAS CALCULATED BASED ON THE DIRECTION YOU ALL GAVE US ON THE LAST DAY OF OUR BUDGET REVIEW.

SO THE IDEA CAME UP INSTEAD OF GOING ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP LIMIT OF THE TAX RATE, WHICH IS 39.867 CENTS WHAT IF WE PULLED BACK AND WE DIDN'T TAKE $1 MILLION IN REVENUES OFF THAT ON THAT PROPERTY TAX RATE? AND WE SET IT ASIDE KNOWING THAT INSTEAD WE WANT TO LOOK AT DOING A DEBT ISSUANCE THAT WOULD GENERATE OVER $13 MILLION FOR STREET PROJECTS. SO THAT IS THE CALCULATED 39.195 CENT RATE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'LL GET YOU CURRENT SERVICE LEVELS, SOME NEW FIRE DISTRICT CHIEFS, NEW POLICE OFFICERS, NEW CIVILIAN SUPPORT STAFF.

THE $13 MILLION WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN STREET PROJECTS.

NOW THAT'S IN ADDITION TO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO GET SOME GRANT FUNDING.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO GET OVER $28 MILLION IN STREET PROJECTS.

BUT OF THAT, THE 13 MILLION IS GOING TO COME FROM THIS CHANGE IN THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

WE'RE ALSO LOOKING TO DO THE COLA FOR OUR RETIREES AND MUCH, MUCH MORE.

AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS IS OUT ON OUR WEBSITE.

WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IN THAT TOP PART, THOSE BLACK LINES, BLOCKS THAT ARE GOING TO THAT ARE GOING ACROSS THE TOP.

SO WE ALWAYS KIND OF QUOTE THIS TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.

SO FIRST OFF, WE WANT TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT DOES THIS DO TO $100,000 HOME? SO WHAT THIS TAX RATE CHANGE DOES ON A $100,000 HOME BECAUSE OUR APPRAISED VALUES HAVE GONE UP, WE LEGALLY HAVE TO BRING THE TAX RATE DOWN. SO BY DOING THAT, WE'RE GOING FROM 40 PLUS CENTS TO $0.39.

THAT WOULD ACTUALLY DECREASE IT IF SOMEHOW A PROPERTY STAYED FROM 100,000 TO 100,000, IT WOULD DECREASE IT BY $1 PER MONTH.

NOW, I KNOW THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A RELEVANT THING GIVEN THAT APPRAISED VALUES HAVE GONE UP SO MUCH, BUT WE ALSO LIKE TO EXPLAIN IT THAT WAY BECAUSE THAT 100,000 IS SOMETIMES EASIER TO DO MATH ON.

LIKE IF YOU KNOW YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH 150 OR SAY, 200,000, YOU CAN KIND OF CALCULATE IT OFF THAT $100,000.

SO BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT PROBABLY THE MORE RELEVANT ONE.

SO MOST PEOPLE SAW A GROWTH IN THOSE APPRAISED VALUES.

AND AGAIN, THOSE APPRAISALS ARE DONE BY THE POTTER RANDALL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

IT'S A THIRD PARTY, UNRELATED PARTY TO THE CITY OF AMARILLO.

SO THOSE ARE DONE SEPARATE AND APART FROM WHAT WE DO HERE AT THE CITY.

THE AVERAGE HOME COMBINED BETWEEN POTTER AND RANDALL WENT FROM ABOUT 188,000 THIS LAST YEAR TO 199,000, ALMOST 200,000 IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

SO THAT SHOWS YOU THOSE APPRAISED VALUES GREW.

SO WHEN YOU APPLY A 40 PLUS CENT TAX RATE TO 188,000 LAST YEAR, AND THEN THIS OPTION FOR THE 39.19 5 CENTS TO THE NEW HIGHER APPRAISED VALUE OF ALMOST $200,000.

WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IS ABOUT A 200 I'M SORRY, A $2 PER MONTH INCREASE.

AND AS I MENTIONED, MAYOR, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO ABOUT $1.55.

BUT WE'LL JUST SAY IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN $2 PER MONTH.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE.

THAT WOULD BE MORE OF THE AVERAGE THAT A RESIDENT WOULD SEE.

THAT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT ANY OF THE EXEMPTIONS THAT ARE IN PLACE, THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION OR THE QUALIFIED DISABILITY EXEMPTION.

SO THIS WOULD JUST BE IF THERE WEREN'T ANY OF THOSE EXEMPTIONS IN PLACE.

SO IF THERE'S NOT A QUESTION ON THAT, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION ON PROPERTY TAXES AT THIS POINT WAS RELATED TO. SO TODAY WE'RE DOING THE FIRST READING.

WE HAVE TO DO THAT FORMAL VOTE AND YOU HAVE TO DO VERY SPECIFIC MOTION LANGUAGE.

SO WE GAVE YOU OPTIONS ON IF YOU WANTED TO DO THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE OR IF YOU WANTED TO DO THAT LOWER OPTION OF THE 39.195 CENTS.

SO IT'S THERE FOR YOU TODAY.

WE'LL TAKE WE'LL RECORD THAT VOTE THE NEXT WEEK.

AND WE'VE PUBLISHED ALL THIS IN THE NEWSPAPER, BUT IT'S ALL BEEN AT THAT HIGHER VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST TIME YOU TAKE ACTION ON SOMETHING POSSIBLY LOWER.

IT'S ALL POSTED AT THE HIGHER AMOUNTS, BUT IT'S FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT NEXT WEEK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO SPECIFICALLY COME AND TALK ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE.

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AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE SECOND AND FINAL.

WE'LL DO THE READING AND VOTE ON THE PROPERTY TAX ORDINANCE, AND THEN WE WILL RATIFY THE TAX RATE AS WELL.

SO QUESTIONS ON PROPERTY TAXES THAT I CAN ANSWER.

QUESTIONS, GENTLEMEN.

I DO. I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

AND JUST TO CLARIFY, SO WE SET THE TAX RATE, BUT WE HAVE THE CITY.

NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPRAISAL OF THE HOMES.

THAT'S THAT'S HANDLED BY POTTER RANDALL APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

SO THAT IS WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THE RATE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE THE VALUES OF PEOPLE'S HOMES.

THAT IS CORRECT. YES.

THOSE ARE SEPARATE AND APART.

AND THEN AND THE WORDING THAT YOU GAVE US ON THE ADOPTION RATE OF BOTH OF THESE ON THE LOWER ONE AT THE 39.195, THE WORDING HERE SAYS WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 4.25% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE.

YES. SO I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT.

IT LOOKS LIKE OUR TAX RATE WENT DOWN FROM $0.40 TO 39%.

BUT THE WORDING IN HERE SAYS IT'S AN INCREASE.

SO HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS THING.

GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO THE REASON FOR THAT IS THERE IS ANOTHER RATE THAT BY STATE LAW WE HAVE TO CALCULATE EACH YEAR.

THAT IS CALLED THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

SO IT'S BASICALLY IF WE WERE TO COLLECT THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF REVENUE ON THE EXACT SAME PROPERTIES AS THE PRIOR YEAR.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT PULLS THAT RATE EVEN FURTHER DOWN BECAUSE APPRAISED VALUES HAVE GONE UP AND WE HAVE NEW PROPERTIES ON THE ROLL.

AND SO, YES, WHEN WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT THAT MUCH LOWER, NO NEW REVENUE RATE, YOU HAVE TO BY STATE LAW FOR YOUR NOTICES, COMPARE THE NO NEW REVENUE RATE TO THEN WHATEVER YOU ALL DECIDE TO VOTE ON.

SO THAT IS A FANTASTIC QUESTION.

AND BRIAN AND I GO ROUND AND ROUND LOOKING AT THAT EVERY SINGLE YEAR BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING FROM A 40 CENT TAX RATE TO A 39. BUT IT'S THE WAY STATE LAW REQUIRES YOU TO WORD IT IS BASED ON COMPARISON TO THAT NO NEW REVENUE RATE.

SO IF WE HELD THE NO NEW REVENUE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE RATE AND WE'D SAY IT'S A 0% INCREASE.

THAT IS CORRECT. YES.

A SLIGHTLY HIGHER RATE THAN IT'S OKAY.

YES. YES. AND I BELIEVE THAT RATE.

DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS. I BELIEVE IT WAS AROUND 37, $0.38.

SO IT WAS EVEN LOWER THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW.

AND AGAIN, IT DOESN'T CONSIDER THE NEW PROPERTIES AS WELL.

OTHER QUESTIONS. SO JUST TO GO BACK ONE QUICK TIME, I DO WANT TO EXPLAIN THE $13 MILLION BORROW.

YES. ONE MORE TIME JUST HERE ON CAMERA, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A WORK SESSION THAT I THOUGHT WAS EXPLAINED IT PRETTY GOOD.

BUT BUT I THINK WE'LL GET MORE VISIBILITY AND MORE COMMUNICATION OUT OF THIS MEETING BEING A PUBLIC HEARING LIKE THIS.

SO WE WERE LOOKING AT WHAT STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING.

STAFF IS SAYING, HEY, PLEASE TAKE THE 3.5% INCREASE.

NOT GOING TO YOUR VOTERS ASKING FOR THE VOTER APPROVAL FOR ANYTHING GREATER THAN THAT.

BUT WE NEED THE 3.5%.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, WE WOULD LIKE A DEBT ISSUANCE SO THAT THE NEXT YEAR THE THE THE RATE WOULD INCREASE AGAIN AND WE'D BE ABLE TO BORROW THE MONEY TO TO DO OTHER PROJECTS.

WE AS COUNCIL ASKED, WELL, WHAT IF WE WORK BELOW THE 3.5 MILLION OR THE 3.5% INCREASE WHICH ROUGHLY IS $3.5 MILLION? SO THE 3.5% INCREASE ON THE OPERATIONS SIDE COMES IN.

IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO ABOUT 4.9 MILLION.

4.9 MILLION ISH.

YES. YEAH. SO WE HAVE $4.9 MILLION WORTH OF ADDITIONAL REVENUES BASED ON THAT 3.5% RATE INCREASE.

YES. SO IF WE BACK $1 MILLION OUT OF THAT, WE ASKED WHAT CAN WE BORROW WITH THAT THAT MONEY? AND THEY SAID, WELL, YOU CAN BORROW $13.3 MILLION.

AND SO WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, WE NEED A MATCH OF 3 MILLION.

YES. ON ONE OF THOSE GRANT PROJECTS, ONE OF OUR GRANT PROJECTS, WHICH IS A STREET PROJECT.

SO THE GRANTS $11.4 MILLION, WE NEED TO MATCH IT WITH $3 MILLION.

SO WE COULD TAKE ALL OF THE FUNDS, ALL OF THE CASH FUNDED CAPITAL THAT WE HAVE RIGHT THERE, AND WE COULD PUT IT AGAINST THAT ONE GRANT AND THAT COULD BE THE PROJECT WE DO, OR WE COULD BE SMART BUSINESS PEOPLE AND WE COULD TAKE DOWN THAT RATE IN THIS YEAR, HAVE A LOWER TAX RATE, TAKE $1 MILLION OFF OF THAT, PUT IT ON THE I&S SIDE, WHICH JUST MEANS THAT'S YOUR DEBT.

USE THAT TO GO AND BORROW $13.3 MILLION AND THEN HAVE A FUNDING MECHANISM TO GET TO $10 MILLION MORE STREET PROJECTS THAT WE NEED AROUND TOWN.

AND I KNOW THIS ISN'T THE RIGHT NUMBER.

LIKE WE HAVE MORE THAN $200 MILLION WORTH OF STREET PROJECTS THAT WE NEED TO GET TO, BUT THAT'S OVER SO MANY YEARS.

SO IF YOU JUST SAY YOU HAVE A $200 MILLION PROBLEM, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SAVE OURSELVES OUT OF THAT PROBLEM.

MEANING I CAN'T SAVE ENOUGH MONEY ON MY BUDGET.

I CAN'T SAVE $20 MILLION A YEAR AND GET TO TEN YEARS WORTH OF WORK AND BE BACK TO NET ZERO.

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I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BORROW MY WAY OUT OF THAT PROBLEM.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS WE'RE TRYING TO PUT $1 MILLION IN.

THERE IS A REVENUE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE TO BORROW THE 13.3 WE CAN USE THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR.

AND AS THAT PAYS ITSELF OFF, THEN IT BECOMES ANOTHER FUNDING MECHANISM THAT WILL CONTINUE TO GET TO THOSE STREET PROJECTS.

SO JUST IN PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE CRITICISM THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IS EASY TO APPLY HERE.

IN 2015, COUNCIL RAISED YOUR TAXES 5.32 CENTS TO GO AND ISSUE A BOND FOR $110 MILLION.

AND SO THAT'S A LARGE INCREASE ON YOUR ON YOUR TAX RATE ON YOUR HOUSE.

IT WENT FROM I MEAN, LET'S SAY IT WAS $0.32 TO $0.38 OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

AND THAT WAS STAGGERED OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS.

BUT YES, IT WAS OVER $0.05 TO DO THE 110 MILLION IN PROJECTS.

THIS BUDGET REFLECTS $135 MILLION WORTH OF PROJECTS.

NOW SOME OF THOSE ARE FUNDED THROUGH FEE INCREASES, BUT $25 MILLION WORTH OF ROADS AND STREET PROJECTS AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE NEED TO GET TO.

AND WE LOWERED THE RATE FROM WHAT THE 3.5% WAS.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE BUYING WITH THIS.

SO REALLY GOOD STEWARDSHIP OF THE MONEY.

I'M NOT GOING TO BACK DOWN ON THAT AT ALL.

WE'RE STEWARDING YOUR MONEY WELL, WE'RE BEING SMART.

THIS IS GOOD DEBT.

WE'RE BORROWING AGAINST THE REVENUE.

WE'RE LIVING WITHIN OUR MEANS.

WE CUT EVERYWHERE WE COULD.

WE WHIPPED THAT BUDGET FOR EIGHT DIFFERENT WORK SESSIONS TO FIND, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE LESS THAN $1 MILLION.

BUT I MEAN, WE WORKED HARD TO FIND $1 MILLION WORTH OF SAVINGS ON A $400 MILLION BUDGET.

AND SO IN THIS, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING OVER THE NEXT TEN MONTHS TO TRY TO STEWARD THAT MONEY.

WELL, THIS IS A VERY GOOD BUDGET IN THE WAY IN WHICH IT'S PROPOSED.

AND FOR WHAT WE'RE GETTING, IT'S STILL A TAX INCREASE.

I GET IT. SO LIKE YOU'RE STILL HAVING TO PAY TAXES.

AND BOTTOM LINE, SOME OF US IN THE ROOM DON'T EVEN THINK THAT THAT'S FAIR.

LIKE TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES IN AND OF THEMSELVES MAY NOT EVEN BE CONSTITUTIONAL.

LIKE WE COULD SIT HERE AND ARGUE THAT.

BUT IN THE SYSTEM THAT WE'RE IN, WE ALL LIKE THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

WE LOVE AMARILLO, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET TO SOME OF THESE THINGS.

AND SO WE'RE NOT WILLING TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.

I WANTED TO CLARIFY THE 13 MILLION AND MAYBE TRY TO DRIVE THE POINT HOME.

WE'RE THINKING OUTSIDE OF THE BOX.

WE THINK WE'RE DOING WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO.

IT'S A SMALL INCREASE, BUT I BELIEVE OVER THE NEXT YEAR YOU'LL SEE THE OUTCOMES AND THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE SATISFIED WITH THEM.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTION, BUT I WOULD ADD THAT, I MEAN, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET AND THE MILLION DOLLARS, I THINK WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT THE MAYOR CAME UP WITH, WHICH IS AND I DON'T WANT TO FURTHER COMPLICATE IT, BUT WE'RE COMING DOWN $1 MILLION ON THE M&O SIDE, THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION SIDE.

AND WE CAN ONLY GO UP SO MUCH.

BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, WHEN YOU ISSUE DEBT, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO LIMIT TO THAT PER SE.

I MEAN, YOU CAN GO UP ON THAT.

SO WE WE CAME UP WITH THIS PLAN TO ISSUE $1 MILLION WORTH OF DEBT, WHICH WE COULD HAVE RAISED THE PROPERTY TAX RATE, THE 3.5%, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED WITHOUT VOTERS AND ISSUED THE DEBT.

I MEAN, THERE WOULD WE WOULD NOT HAVE HAD TO GO TO THE VOTERS TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, WE COULD HAVE. BUT I THINK WHAT WE DID WAS WE RECOGNIZED THAT AND WE BACKED THE PROPERTY TAX DOWN THAT MILLION DOLLARS SO THAT WE COULD FUND THE STREETS PROJECTS AND TRYING TO BE RETICENT AND KIND OF THINKING WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE TAX PART OF IT AND WANT TO KEEP THAT AS LOW AS POSSIBLE.

AND TO HELP DO THAT, WE FOUND THAT SAVINGS WORKING WITH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO FUND THOSE THINGS IN THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION, GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND ISSUE THE DEBT ON THAT.

SO I THINK WE'VE TRIED TO BE VERY COGNIZANT OF KEEPING KEEPING THAT AT A MINIMUM.

IF WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER, I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT THE PROPERTY TAX RATE BE INCREASED BY THE ADOPTION OF A TAX RATE OF 0.39195, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY A 4.25% INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE. SECOND.

OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CRAFT, A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN SIMPSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM EIGHT C? OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A RECORDED VOTE.

THANK YOU, MR. STORRS.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. OKAY.

NEXT ON OUR ITEM AND OUR AGENDA, ITEM EIGHT D, ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.

[8.D. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8070]

WE HAVE BRADY KENDRICK COMING UP HERE, I BELIEVE, RIGHT, BRADY IS THIS YOUR FIRST OF SEVERAL? FIRST JUST FIRST OF TWO.

OKAY. GO RIGHT AHEAD, SIR.

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ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 8070.

THIS IS THE VACATION OF A 15 FOOT WIDE PUBLIC SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT.

AND LOT 28 OF BLOCK 45 OF THE GREENWAYS AT HILLSIDE UNIT 41 IN THE VICINITY OF COUNTRYSIDE DRIVE AND SOUTHWOOD DRIVE.

AND THE APPLICANT IS OJD ENGINEERING FOR N&B PROPERTIES, INC..

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING VACATION OF THIS EASEMENT IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A HOME ON THIS LOT.

THE APPLICANT LAST YEAR HAD A DRAINAGE REPORT AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS APPROVED ALONG WITH A PLAT FOR THIS NEXT PHASE OF THE GREENWAYS.

AND THE LOT IN QUESTION IS THERE IN RED.

DURING THAT PROJECT IT WAS DISCOVERED THAT THERE WAS A CITY SANITARY SEWER MAIN THAT WAS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF AN EASEMENT.

SO AT THAT TIME OF THE PLAT WE DID DEDICATE AN EASEMENT OVER THAT MAIN UNTIL THE TIME THAT IT COULD BE RELOCATED AS THE PLAN ULTIMATELY WAS TO RELOCATE THAT EASEMENT OUT OF THAT LOT THAT HAS RECENTLY OCCURRED.

THIS REQUEST WAS REVIEWED BY THE CITY ENGINEER AND OTHER PERTINENT CITY DEPARTMENTS AND STAFF AND WAS FOUND TO BE IN GOOD ORDER.

THE COST OF RELOCATION WAS APPROXIMATELY $16,000 AND THE VALUE OF THAT AREA TO BE VACATED WAS APPROXIMATELY $1,800.

SO A FAIR MARKET VALUE PAYMENT TO THE CITY IS NOT REQUIRED IN THIS INSTANCE.

WE DID SEND PUBLIC NOTICES AS REQUIRED AND WE DID RECEIVE ONE COMMENT ON THIS REQUEST.

THEY DID OBJECT TO THE REQUEST AS THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DRAINAGE AT THIS LOT WERE TO ALLOW IT TO BE DEVELOPED.

WE SPOKE TO THAT APPLICANT THAT CALLER ABOUT THAT.

THIS UNIT DID HAVE A DRAINAGE REPORT THAT WAS REVIEWED BY OUR CITY ENGINEER'S DEPARTMENT AND WAS FOUND TO BE IN GOOD ORDER AND ULTIMATELY WAS APPROVED.

AND WE DID OFFER TO GET THAT CALLER IN CONTACT WITH APPLICABLE CITY STAFF TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER IF THEY SO WISH TO.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU, BRADY. I TOOK AN EMAIL ON THIS ONE.

AND SO THE I WANT TO DIFFERENTIATE.

YOU HAVE A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT, NOT A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, THROUGH THIS LOT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

SO THE CONCERN WAS FOR THE DRAINAGE GOING ACROSS THAT LOT AND IT BEING IMPEDED BY ANOTHER HOUSE.

AND THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE FLOODING.

THE CONCERN, MAYOR, WAS THAT THEY THOUGHT THAT IF THIS LOT WERE ALLOWED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH AN ADDITIONAL HOME, IT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE DRAINAGE IN THAT AREA.

HOWEVER, IN SPEAKING WITH THE ENGINEER'S DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY ABOUT THAT, THIS AREA WAS ALL ACCOUNTED FOR AND TWO DRAINAGE REPORTS, ACTUALLY ONE THAT WAS DONE IN 1999 AND A MORE RECENT ONE THAT REFLECTS THE ACTUAL BUILD OUT THAT WAS DONE IN 2019, I BELIEVE IT WAS, SO THAT THEIR CONCERN WAS MORE SO THAT IF THIS LOT BE ALLOWED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A HOME, THAT IT WOULD POTENTIALLY LEAD TO FLOODING IN THAT AREA.

OKAY. SO THE STUDIES SHOW THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE FLOODING IN THAT AREA DUE TO AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE AND YOU HAVE A FLOOD STUDY DONE ON THAT AND THAT'S FILED OF RECORD. THAT'S CORRECT.

IT IS IN RECORD WITH OUR CITY ENGINEER'S OFFICE.

OKAY. AND THEN WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO IS TO ALLEVIATE A A SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE'RE NOT BEING ASKED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE DRAINAGE.

AND YOU'RE JUST VALIDATING THAT THE DRAINAGE STUDY HAS BEEN DONE? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ON EIGHT D, GUYS? YES, SIR. NO QUESTIONS WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT.

MAYOR. POINT OF ORDER.

THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, THANK YOU.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM EIGHT D.

OKAY. SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM EIGHT D AND THANK MY CITY SECRETARY FOR WAKING ME UP AT 6:04 P.M.

SO THANK YOU, MA'AM.

SO WE WOULD NOW HAVE A MOTION ON ITEM EIGHT D, PLEASE.

OKAY. I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8070 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE? ITEM 8 E. BRADY KENDRICK.

[8.E. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8071]

ALL RIGHT. THIS ITEM IS ALSO ANOTHER VACATION.

THIS IS A VACATION OF A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT LOCATED IN BLOCK LOT ONE A BLOCK 354 OF MIRROR'S EDITION UNIT NUMBER 33, LOCATED IN THE VICINITY OF SOUTH JOHNSON STREET AND SOUTHEAST SEVENTH AVENUE.

AND THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE IS THE CITY OF AMARILLO.

AND THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CITY HALL PROJECT IN FRONT OF AMARILLO HARDWARE.

THE ALLEY THAT WAS IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING WAS VACATED IN 2003.

AND AT THAT TIME, A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT WAS RETAINED OVER THAT AREA.

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WITH THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE RELOCATED THE UTILITIES OUT OF THAT EASEMENT AS A PORTION OF THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT OVER WITH THE ENTRYWAY FOR THE CITY HALL. SO ALL THOSE UTILITIES HAVE BEEN ARE NEARING COMPLETION OF BEING SHIFTED TO THE WEST.

SO THIS IS SIMPLY DOING AWAY WITH THAT PUE THAT WAS RETAINED IN 2003 DURING THAT ALLEY VACATION.

AND WE ARE CURRENTLY FINALIZING THE NEW EASEMENT THAT WILL COVER THOSE UTILITIES AND THAT WILL BE ON YOUR NEXT AGENDA, NEXT MEETING AS A CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.

WE DID SEND PUBLIC NOTICES ON THIS ONE AS WELL, AND NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS REQUEST.

CONSIDERING ALL THAT, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE ON THIS ONE AS WELL.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 8 E.

SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8071 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

I SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

OKAY. ITEM EIGHT F WE HAVE JUSTIN OPPEL COMING UP HERE FOR THIS ITEM, MR.

[8.F. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8072]

OPPEL. HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY? DOING WELL. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS AS MAYOR JUST SAID JUSTIN OPPEL.

I AM THE DEVELOPMENT CUSTOMER SERVICE COORDINATOR WITH THE CITY.

I WILL BE DISCUSSING THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS TODAY IN THEIR BUDGETS.

CONSIDERING THAT YOU ALL ARE A NEW COUNCIL, I'LL GIVE A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW AS TO WHAT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS.

SO. SO I'LL BEGIN BY SAYING THAT EVERYTHING THAT I'LL BE DISCUSSING TODAY IS NOT CITY FUND RELATED. NO CITY FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR ANY OF THIS.

SO A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS ESSENTIALLY A DEVELOPMENT TOOL.

IT'S ROOTED IN TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 372, AND IT IS A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT DISTRICT CREATED BY A CITY TO FUND AND MANAGE VARIOUS PUBLIC AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WITHIN A SPECIFIC AREA.

THE PIDS RE TYPICALLY ESTABLISHED TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE, PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ATTRACT INVESTMENT WITHIN A DESIGNATED DISTRICT.

PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THE PID ARE SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENTS WHICH ARE USED TO FINANCE THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS AND THE SERVICES FUNDED BY A PID CAN VARY, BUT OFTEN INCLUDE THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPING, SPECIALTY LIGHTING, SIDEWALK AND STREETS AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES.

SO HOW IS A PID CREATED? AND IT'S CREATED THROUGH A PETITION AND WHAT'LL HAPPEN IS A DEVELOPER IS TYPICALLY A DEVELOPER OR A GROUP OF OWNERS WILL SUBMIT A PETITION TO THE CITY, WHICH REQUIRES MORE THAN 50% OF THE OWNERS OF THE TAXABLE REAL PROPERTY TO BUY INTO THIS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

THIS PETITION OUTLINES THE GENERAL NATURE OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE ESTIMATED COSTS, THE BOUNDARIES THAT THE PID WILL INCLUDE, AS WELL AS ESTABLISHING AN ADVISORY BOARD AND THE METHOD OF ASSESSMENT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE UNDER.

AND ESSENTIALLY THE PETITION IS THE GOVERNING GOVERNING DOCUMENT FOR THE PID.

SO I MENTIONED THE ADVISORY BOARD.

EACH PID HAS AN ADVISORY BOARD WHICH IS COMPRISED OF 3 TO 5 MEMBERS, MAINLY NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVES.

AND THE ADVISORY BOARD HAS TWO MAIN FUNCTIONS.

ONE IS TO REVIEW AND DECIDE AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR A BUDGET AND A FIVE YEAR SERVICE PLAN, WHICH THE FIVE YEAR SERVICE PLAN IS A PROJECTION FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT OF THIS BUDGET.

ALSO, THE ADVISORY BOARD DETERMINES THE YEARLY ASSESSMENT RATE.

SO IT IS NOT THE CITY OR ME OR ANY CITY EMPLOYEE THAT DECIDES THIS ASSESSMENT RATE.

IT IS STRICTLY THE ADVISORY BOARD FOR THAT PID.

SO AS I SAID EARLIER, THE NO CITY FUNDS ARE USED FOR ANY OF THESE PROJECTS, AND THE ASSESSMENTS FUND 100% OF THE IMPROVEMENTS OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE PID. SO THE ADVISORY BOARD, WE HAVE MEETINGS A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR TO DISCUSS AND REVIEW THE BUDGET AND WE ADHERE TO THE POSTING AND NOTICE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT FOR EACH MEETING THAT WE DO HAVE.

AND DURING THESE MEETINGS, THE BUDGET IN PARTICULAR, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE NOW, THE ADVISORY BOARD WILL VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET AND THE SERVICE PLAN TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN LATER IN THE YEAR.

I'LL ALSO BE UP HERE BRINGING CONTRACTS TO AWARD MANAGEMENT, MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS TO VENDORS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT

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PROCESS WITH. SO AND THE ADVISORY BOARD TAKES A HAND IN THAT AND ALSO RECOMMENDS APPROVAL ON THOSE TYPES OF CONTRACTS AS WELL.

THE CITY COUNCIL'S ROLE IS TO APPOINT ADVISORY BOARD MEMBERS, WHICH STEPHANIE ALLUDED TO EARLIER IN THE MEETING TODAY.

SO THAT'LL BE COMING UP HERE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.

BUT ALSO THE CITY COUNCIL'S FUNCTION IS TO AFTER THE ADVISORY BOARD HAS MET AND VOTED TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TO FOR Y'ALL TO VOTE ON THE ORDINANCE THAT LEVIES THE ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE PID AND ALSO, AS I MENTIONED, TO AWARD MANAGEMENT MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS SUCH AS THAT AFTER THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, IF THE BUDGETS ARE APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL, I'LL SEND WHAT IS CALLED THE ASSESSMENT ROLLS, WHICH INCLUDES A LIST OF EVERY PROPERTY WITHIN THE PIDS TO THE COUNTY, EACH POTTER AND RANDALL, AND THEY ADD THE ASSESSMENTS ONTO THE TAX ROLL AND COLLECT THE PAYMENTS FOR US AND THEN FUNNEL IT BACK TO THE CITY.

SO CURRENTLY IN AMARILLO THERE ARE NINE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS, AND HERE'S A MAP OF THEM NOW AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE ONLY EIGHT BLUE BOXES, BUT THE COLONIES AND THE [INAUDIBLE] ARE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S ONLY EIGHT UP THERE INSTEAD OF NINE.

SO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE FOR THE GREENWAYS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

AND EACH ONE OF THESE SLIDES AS WE GO THROUGH, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK VERY SIMILAR BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME INFORMATION, JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DATA.

SO I'LL BEGIN WITH THE GREENWAYS AND ON JUNE 6TH THEIR ADVISORY BOARD MET AND VOTED TO UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THE ASSESSMENTS TO INCREASE IN THE FOLLOWING WAYS AND EACH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS ASSESSED.

IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

SOME ARE DONE BY SQUARE FOOTAGE, OTHERS ARE FLAT RATES.

GREENWAYS HAS DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF LOTS, AND EACH CLASSIFICATION COMES WITH A DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT FEE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THAT LOT A INCREASED TO $950.

LOT B 792 LOT D TO 1188.

COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES 2376 PER ACRE, WHICH BRINGS THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO TOTAL ASSESSMENTS TO $905,195. THE EXPENSES FOR THE GREENWAYS PID IS $904,337 AND AS I MENTIONED, THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS BUDGET AND CONCLUDED THAT THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT REVENUE IS ADEQUATE TO COVER THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AND DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS AT THIS TIME.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? YES. YES, SIR.

I'VE HEARD FROM EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS, AND I'LL BRING THIS UP FOR ALL YOUR PIDS HERE BECAUSE I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE, FROM ALL OF THEM, THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING A VALUE FOR THEIR DOLLARS.

AND FOR INSTANCE, I HEARD FROM PEOPLE IN THE COLONIES, THE FLOWER BEDS ARE STILL EMPTY.

IT KEEPS SAYING BEAUTY TO COME, SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO FROM WHAT I'M GETTING OUT, I DON'T THINK THE PIDS ARE SERVICING THE NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THEY SHOULD. AND FOR INSTANCE, THE OLDER PART OF THE COLONIES IS PAYING THE SAME AS THE NEWER PART, WHICH NEEDS MORE TAKEN CARE OF THAN THE OLDER PART.

I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME RESTRUCTURING DONE THE WAY THIS PID OPERATES.

I NOTICED YOU SAID YOU HAVE TO HAVE 50% OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO APPROVE.

IS THAT JUST A ONE TIME VOTE OR DO THEY GO BACK EVERY FIVE YEARS AND VOTE OR WHAT? THAT IS WHEN THE PID IS ACTUALLY CREATED IN THE PETITION.

SO TYPICALLY IT'S THE DEVELOPER WHO OWNS IT'S THE SOLE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WHO WILL CREATE THE PID.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER INSTANCES WHERE THERE'S JUST ONE OR 2 OR 3 PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WILL BUY INTO THE PID WHEN IT'S JUST A SMALLER AREA OR NOT AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD, I GUESS I SHOULD SAY.

SO IN ORDER TO ALTER THE PETITION THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, SAY IN THE COLONIES, IT'S A SECURE DOCUMENT.

IN ORDER TO MODIFY ANYTHING IN THAT, WE WOULD HAVE TO ABOLISH THE PID AND CREATE A NEW ONE OR THE NEW SECTION OF COLONIES THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO.

IT COULD BE A NEW PID IF IT'S NOT INCLUDED WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY.

SO TO YOUR COMMENT ON LACK OF PERFORMANCE AND THE QUALITY OF THE PIDS.

OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE HAVE I TOOK THIS POSITION ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, AND SINCE THAT TIME I'VE BEEN PUTTING EVERY PID AND EVERY MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE VENDOR UNDER CONTRACT, WHICH WE HADN'T DONE IN THE PAST.

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SO NOW WE HAVE THE SPECIFICATIONS IN THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT HOLDS THEM TO THE STANDARD THAT WE PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS ON IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF SERVICES THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING, AS WELL AS GETTING QUALITY VENDORS TO PERFORM THE WORK FOR MANAGEMENT AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES FOR THESE PIDS.

DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED THAT MAYBE WE HAVE ANOTHER VOTE FOR THESE TOO? I MEAN, THERE'S PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MOVED INTO THE COLONIES THAT DIDN'T ORIGINALLY LIVE THERE AND THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY SOMETHING THEY HAD NO SAY IN.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

THEY'RE AWARE OF IT WHEN THEY MOVE.

SO COUNCIL MEMBER SCHERLEN.

I WANT TO PROVIDE A LITTLE CLARITY ON THAT TOPIC.

MOST OF THE PIDS NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT THE COLONIES, THE BIG ONES.

THE GREENWAYS VINEYARDS WERE CREATED WHEN IT WAS OPEN SPACE LAND BY THE OWNER, THE DEVELOPER AT THE TIME, BEFORE THE LOTS AND THE INDIVIDUAL OWNERS EXISTED.

SO THEY MET THE PETITION REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THEY OWNED ALL OF IT.

THEY DREW THE BOUNDARY AROUND IT AND IDENTIFIED THAT THEY WANTED THE PID TO HAVE THIS SERVICE FOR OPEN SPACE AND OTHER OTHER AMENITIES THAT THEY SERVE NOW THAT IT'S DEVELOPED AND THERE'S HUNDREDS OF OWNERS IN THOSE LARGER PIDS, THE ONLY OPTION TO AMEND THAT WOULD BE TO ABOLISH THE PID AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF 50% OF THE OWNERS.

NOW CREATING A NEW PID WOULD BE VERY UNLIKELY.

SO THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT THROUGH THE HOA IS HOW THE PETITIONS WERE WRITTEN.

SO IT WOULD FALL BACK ON THAT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

THAT'S HOW THE PETITIONS ON THE LARGE ONES ARE WRITTEN.

SO YOU WOULD SEE A CHALLENGE RELATED TO THE FUNDING FOR THE MAINTENANCE.

HOA FEES ARE VOLUNTARY PAY.

THIS ASSESSMENT METHOD IS WHAT THE DEVELOPER CHOSE SO THAT THOSE AMENITIES TYPICALLY OPEN SPACE WALKING PARKS, DIFFERENT TYPES OF AMENITIES ARE CREATED. SO.

HAVING A VOTE WOULD BE A FIRST VOTE WOULD HAVE TO BE TO ELIMINATE THE CURRENT PID AND THEN CREATE THROUGH A PETITION, A NEW PID WITH NEW PARAMETERS.

AND SO IT WOULD GREATLY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THE ABILITY TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE MAINTAINING RIGHT NOW. DOES THAT HELP YOU UNDERSTAND? YES. FOR INSTANCE, IN THE COLONIES, THEY HAVE AN HOA FEE.

YES, THEY HAVE THIS PID FEE.

YEAH. AT WHAT POINT I MEAN, WHEN DO THE CITIZENS ACTUALLY GET TO SEE THEIR OWN FATE IN THIS? I MEAN, YOU HAVE YOU SAY, A BOARD, MAYBE A THREE PEOPLE.

CORRECT. AND THESE THREE PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I WANT TO RAISE IT.

I READ ONE EMAIL, I THINK IT WAS 37%, ANOTHER ONE.

AND AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THESE CITIZENS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY YAY OR NAY.

I DON'T WANT THIS.

OKAY. OUTSIDE OF A VOTE TO ELIMINATE THE PID THE ASSESSMENT IS IS ON THEIR BILL. SO THE CITIZENS HAVE THE INPUT TO Y'ALL AND TO THE PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR THE PIDS.

OKAY. SAYING THEY DON'T WANT IT.

THEY BOUGHT PROPERTY IN A HOUSE IN A PID.

AND SO 50% OF THOSE OWNERS HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND ELIMINATE THE PID, WHICH WOULD PUT THAT COST DIRECTLY, SQUARELY ON THE HOA, AND THEN THAT WOULD HAVE A CHALLENGE RELATED TO SERVICE DELIVERY.

NOW BACK UP A STEP.

JUSTIN PROVIDED YOU THAT TWICE UP HERE.

HE PROVIDED TO YOU THAT THESE ARE NOT USING CITY FUNDS PRIOR TO THESE BUDGETS.

THEY WERE THEY WERE SUBSIDIZED BY THE GENERAL FUND.

AND THAT WAS THE ADJUSTMENT THAT WE MADE, ADDING A POSITION SO THAT UP UNTIL A YEAR AGO, WE HAD ONLY A HALF A POSITION.

HIS POSITION BEING CHARGED OUT TO THE PIDS, SERVICE DELIVERY WAS SUBSTANDARD AND WE KNEW THAT AND WE HAD A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT SERVICE DELIVERY, MANY SERVICE DELIVERY PROBLEMS, INCLUDING CONTRACTS, PROJECTS.

YOU TAKE A PROJECT THAT WE DID NOT HAVE A APPROPRIATE PROJECT MANAGEMENT IN PLACE TO INSPECT THE IMPROVEMENTS AND VERIFY. THEY MET THE STANDARDS TO BE ACCEPTED AS A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT.

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ALL OF THAT WAS ADDED THROUGH ONE POSITION THAT NOW IS PROVIDING THAT SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE PIDS.

SO IT IS ONE TIME ADJUSTMENT.

THE 37% AND THOSE HIGH PERCENTAGES ARE ONE TIME ADJUSTMENTS TO GET US TO THAT SERVICE LEVEL THAT WE NOW ARE SEEING IS ACCEPTABLE. I'M NOT HEARING NEGATIVES ABOUT NOT DELIVERING THE CONTRACTS, NOT DELIVERING THE THE SERVICES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE STILL HAVE SOME NEEDS IN CERTAIN FLOWERBEDS AND CERTAIN AREAS AND THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED AS JUSTIN EXPRESSED.

SO THIS IS THE FINAL STEP IN GETTING THAT WHERE IT'S NOT SUBSIDIZED BY THE TAXPAYERS ACROSS THE CITY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE ADJUSTMENTS ARE.

DOES THAT HELP? THANK YOU.

WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE FOR.

SO THIS HAS A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND A PID.

SO WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING A PID HANDLE THESE DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES VERSUS A HOMEOWNER? THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGE IS THE REVENUE IS SOLID.

IT'S COLLECTED WITH THE TAXES.

HOA. IT'S VOLUNTARY.

SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME ABILITY TO COLLECT THE FUNDING SO THEY COULD DISSOLVE THE PID AND THEN TURN THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES OVER TO THE HOA.

BUT THE PID COLLECTS THE MONEY THROUGH ASSESSMENT, THROUGH AN ASSESSOR.

YOUR TAX BILL. YES.

SO YOU HAVE TO PAY THAT.

YES. BUT ON HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, THE PROBLEM IS IF PEOPLE DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY IT, THEN YOU HAVE LOWER FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO GET IT.

AND THEN OUR PART OF IT IS THAT WE PROVIDE OVERSIGHT AND EXECUTION OF THE SERVICES.

AND SOMEONE IN THE INSTEAD OF A HOMEOWNER HAVING TO DO THAT.

OVER THE HISTORY, WE HAD NOT KEPT UP WITH THOSE COST INCREASES BEING CHARGED TO THE PID AND THESE FINAL ADJUSTMENTS ARE DUE IN.

SO, YES, THAT'S THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE.

I SEE. THERE COULD BE OTHER VIEWS FROM OTHER PEOPLE ABOUT IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I SEE.

IT'S THE FUNDING MECHANISM THAT MAINTAINS THESE OPEN SPACES AND THESE AMENITIES.

AND THIS ASSESSMENT METHOD IS THE ONE THAT GUARANTEES WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO DEVELOPERS WANTING TO DO PIDS IN THEIR NEW DEVELOPMENT IN ADVANCE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S OPEN SPACE SO THAT THOSE AMENITIES ARE IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.

IT'S A SELLING POINT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE GET GO.

MY QUESTION WOULD BE, FLOYD, IS I MEAN, IT'S MAYBE A QUESTION FOR BRIAN, BUT I MEAN, LIKE WHAT POLICY CAN WE AFFECT, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES ON THE CITY SIDE? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE AS FAR AS POLICY THAT THE POLICY IS IN THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT MANUAL.

IT'S BEING REVIEWED UNDER SOME OF THIS.

SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE'VE FACED HAVE THAT.

BUT THEN IT GOES BACK TO BRIAN'S OFFICE AND AND DRAFTING THE PETITION WITH THE DEVELOPER.

SO A LOT OF THINGS, IT GOES FROM ONE TO THE OTHER.

IT'S THE POLICY DRIVES HOW WE DO IT, BUT THE OUTCOME IS DRIVEN BY THE PETITION.

IN OTHER WORDS, ONE RECENT COMPLAINT THAT I HEARD WAS, WELL, MY STREET IS NOT ADJACENT TO THE THE AMENITY, SO WHY AM I PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT? IT'S BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER DREW THAT BOUNDARY WHEN HE CREATED IT AND HE SET THESE FEE CRITERIA WHEN HE CREATED BEFORE THE HOMES EVEN EXISTED. THIS WAS ALL CREATED.

AND THEN THE DEVELOPER LAID OUT HIS DEVELOPMENT AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE HOUSES CLOSER TO THE AMENITIES.

SO. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVE A POLICY TO CREATE IT, BUT IT GOES INTO THE PID PETITION OF HOW IT'S MANAGED.

SO BACKING UP, YOU'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE PID PETITION.

YOU CAN'T CHANGE THE PID PETITION WITHOUT THAT PROCESS WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

YEAH, ELIMINATING THIS ONE AND CREATING A NEW ONE AND THE LIKELIHOOD OF CREATING A NEW 150% VOTE TO CREATE AN ASSESSMENT IS IS GOING TO BE LOW WHEN IT'S DEVELOPED OUT.

ALL RIGHT. I GOT YOU. THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT WHEN THE THE REST OF THE CITIES ARE HAVING TO SUBSIDIZE THESE FUNDS.

YES. AND THAT WAS HISTORICALLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING IS THAT THE GENERAL TAXPAYER AND THE REST OF THE CITY WAS SUBSIDIZING THE MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE IN THESE SUBDIVISIONS. AND NOW THIS ADJUSTMENT GETS YOU THIS IS ACTUAL COST.

NOW, WE'VE COMMITTED WITH LAURA AND HER TEAM, THIS IS A HIGH INTERACTION WITH THEIR TEAM ON THE BUDGETING PROCESS.

BUT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO LOOK AT ARE THERE BETTER EQUITABLE WAYS TO DO THAT, INCLUDING WE'RE GOING TO TRACK ACTUAL COSTS AND BE ABLE TO BETTER IDENTIFY THE ACTUAL COSTS MOVING FORWARD IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO THE INDIVIDUAL PIDS.

SO THERE COULD BE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE RECOMMEND IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET BASED OFF THOSE ACTUAL COSTS AND HOW WE LOOK AT IT.

WE CAN'T COMMIT TO THAT UNTIL WE HAVE THE DATA TO KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

WE'RE USING THE DATA WE HAVE NOW AND THE ABILITY TO MAKE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THESE KIDS.

AND THERE ARE YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THAT THE PERCENTAGES ARE CHALLENGING, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT AND NOT SUBSIDIZING THEM WITH GENERAL FUND.

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SO. FLOYD SO THESE ARE THE REVENUES COLLECTED, RIGHT? AND THEN ARE THESE CONTRACTS BID OUT FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD SO THEY'RE BID OUT? AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE COLLECTING WHATEVER.

SO IF A RESIDENT HAS A PROBLEM WITH IT'S NOT THE CITY THAT THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

IT'S THE CONTRACTOR THAT WON THE BID.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS TYPICALLY THE CASE.

HOWEVER, PRIOR TO THESE BUDGETS, THE RESOURCE THAT WE ADDED IS FOR US TO HAVE STAFF TO MONITOR THAT, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CASES WHERE THAT WASN'T BEING MONITORED, THE PERFORMANCE OF THE OF THE CONTRACTOR.

SO WHERE DOES A RESIDENT OF ONE OF THESE TO TOM'S POINT, THAT THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH WHAT'S GOING ON? DO THEY COME TO CITY YOU GO TO JUSTIN, WHAT'S YOUR NUMBER JUSTIN? I'M JUST KIDDING. SO THEY GO THEY DON'T GO TO THE CONTRACTOR.

THEY THEY COME TO THE CITY.

YEAH. AND SO THAT POSITION ACTUALLY BY JOB DUTY NOW OVERSEES THAT AND IS RESPONSIBLE.

NOW, THERE WAS ALSO A LACK OF COORDINATION BETWEEN THOSE CONTRACTS AND JUSTIN AND KERRY, WHO IS HIS TEAM MEMBER, WHO HELPS US, KERRY, KERRY ROBERTS COORDINATION BETWEEN THOSE CONTRACTS.

WHEN WE GOT THIS AND WE GOT TO LOOKING AT THIS, THERE WERE SOME PERFORMANCE GAPS AND ACCOUNTABILITY BETWEEN THE CONTRACTS WE HAVE.

WE HAVE SOLVED THOSE AND THAT IS IN PLACE NOW.

BUT THE COMPONENT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WAS ANYBODY TO CHECK THAT TO MAKE SURE IT WAS OCCURRING AND THAT THAT'S THE POSITION THAT WE ADDED WAS NOT ONLY IN THE CONSTRUCTION AND MANAGEMENT OF THAT, BUT IN THE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY LOOKING AT THAT FROM THE CITY SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ACCOUNTABILITY COMPONENT COVERED.

ARE WE GETTING REVENUE TO MANAGE THIS FROM THAT PID? THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.

THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE IS PAYING FOR THOSE THAT EXACT PAYING FOR LIKE JUST IN SALARY AND HALF ADJUSTED SALARY AND ALL OF KERRY'S SALARY.

OKAY. SO BACK TWO YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS ONLY JUST IN SALARY, WE WERE SUBSIDIZING THAT WITH GENERAL FUND MONEY.

NOW IT'S ALL INTO THE PIDS.

OKAY, SO THE ACCOUNTABILITY COMPONENT IS BEING ENHANCED.

AND THAT WAS AN AREA WHERE WE KNEW THERE WAS CHALLENGES.

OKAY. GOTCHA.

THANK YOU. SORRY I STEPPED IN.

AND IS THERE A REQUIREMENT ON WHEN HOMEOWNERS ARE NOTIFIED OF THE NEW POTENTIAL RATE? YES, WE POSTED IN THE NEWSPAPER ACCORDING TO STATE LAW, I BELIEVE IT WAS TEN DAYS AGO OR TEN DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AS WELL AS SEND OUT NOTICES TO EACH RESIDENT WITHIN EACH PID.

AND THOSE NOTICES WERE SENT OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF LAST WEEK.

OKAY. BUT BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, I GUESS, THE ADVISORY BOARD, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE FIRST THEY'RE HEARING ABOUT IT IS WHEN THEY GET THE NOTIFICATION.

NO, SIR. WE.

I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. OH, BUT MAKE SURE YOU COVER THE REQUIRED NOTIFICATION YES, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON.

WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? WELL, IT WAS THE NOTIFICATION.

I MEAN, SO THE BUDGET WAS APPROVED BACK IN JUNE.

THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. HOW DO THEY NOT? IS THERE NOT COMMUNICATION THROUGH THE ADVISORY BOARD OR OTHER WAYS OUTSIDE OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS? NO, SIR. IT'S JUST THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.

ACCORDING TO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THAT WE POST THOSE BOTH ONLINE THEN IN THE OUTSIDE OF CITY HALL.

BUT ALSO, AS FLOYD MENTIONED, WHEN YOU BUY A PROPERTY WITHIN A PID, THE REALTOR IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE THAT YOU ARE MOVING INTO A PID AND THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL ASSESSMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH.

SO SO REALLY YOU DON'T WE HAVEN'T OR NO ONE HAS COMMUNICATED TO THE RESIDENTS WHAT WE JUST FOUND OUT.

IN OTHER WORDS, HERE'S THE REASON WHY WE'RE GOING UP ON THE FEE.

NO, ESSENTIALLY, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH. YEAH. WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT.

YEAH, SURE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A TEAM EFFORT HERE.

SO TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS, JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS THESE ADVISORY BOARDS ARE REQUIRED TO POST NOTICE ABOUT THEIR MEETINGS.

SO IT'S SIMILAR TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

AND I UNDERSTAND NOT EVERY PERSON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROBABLY LOOKS AT THAT ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, BUT IT IS POSTED ONLINE.

THERE'S NOTICE THERE'S THE SAME OPEN MEETINGS REQUIREMENT, AND SO CITIZENS CAN COME IN AND LISTEN TO THOSE OPEN MEETINGS AS WELL.

SO IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO A CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY'RE DOING BUDGET ACTUALLY.

I THINK A LOT OF THESE BOARDS POSSIBLY COVERED BUDGET MULTIPLE MEETINGS THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY THE LARGER PIDS AS WELL.

AND AGAIN, I KNOW YOU ALL JUST SAID THAT, BUT AS A REMINDER, WHEN SOMEONE MOVES IS LOOKING TO POTENTIALLY MOVE INTO THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, THE REALTORS ARE REQUIRED

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TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THESE PIDS AND EXPLAIN TO THEM ABOUT IT SO THEY UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIFFERENT REQUIREMENT.

AND HOA IS ONE THING, BUT THEN A PID IS ANOTHER ONE AS WELL.

YEAH, WELL, I COULD, BUT I COULD SEE THE FRUSTRATION LEVEL AND I THAT IF THE FIRST TIME I SEE THAT I'M GETTING A 37% INCREASE IS WHEN I GET SOMETHING IN THE MAIL.

LAST WEEK, I'M LIKE, OH MY GOSH, WHAT IS THIS FOR? SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I COULD SEE WHY PEOPLE WOULD BE UPSET IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHY.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT ALSO PLAYS INTO THE THING WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IS JUST HOW PROPERLY TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT TO EVERYONE IN DIFFERENT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS.

IT'S IT IS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE.

YEAH. ONE MORE QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE SHOWED UP TO THIS MEETING.

SO Y'ALL HAD I MEAN, WAS IT MORE THAN THE THREE PEOPLE? WAS THE I MEAN, WAS THERE 20 PEOPLE THERE OR WAS THERE JUST THREE OR GENERALLY IT'S JUST THE PID ADVISORY BOARD.

BUT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE CITIZENS SIT IN ON SOME OF THE PIDS AND COUNCIL MEMBER SIMPSON WE DO HAVE ALL THE MEETING MINUTES AND AVAILABLE ONLINE FOR EACH PID.

SO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LOOK BACK OVER WHAT THE DISCUSSION WAS, THEY'RE ALL POSTED ALONG WITH WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA MINUTES ARE AS WELL.

SO. THANK YOU.

OKAY. SO DO YOU HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ON WHAT? THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS INCREASE IS DIFFERENT FROM CONTRACTOR COSTS, ADDED AMENITIES, SELECTIONS ON FLOWERS, TREES, WATER, FEATURE, WHATEVER.

YES, SIR. IN THE BUDGET THERE ARE EACH LINE ITEM THAT COVERS EACH ONE OF THOSE.

SO JUST LOOKING AT THIS ONE HERE, YOU KNOW, AM I UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY LOT A IS 120% 950 SO CAN YOU TELL ME THE BEFORE RATE, YOU KNOW FOR THAT HOW MUCH DID THAT INCREASE.

IS A CONFUSION THERE BY THE PID PETITION THE LOT A BY SIZE IS 120% OF LOT B.

NOT 120% FROM LAST YEAR.

OKAY. SO THAT'S NOT AN INCREASE? NO, THAT'S NOT AN INCREASE.

THAT'S HOW THE PETITION SETS THE VALUE IN THIS PID THAT IT'S 120% OF THE VALUE OF WHAT YOU SET.

GOT YOU BASED ON LOT SIZE.

SO IT'S NOT 120% OF WHAT LAST YEAR'S RATE IS.

OKAY. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO JUSTIN IS YOU NOW HAVE AN ADMINISTRATIVE COST TO HELP OVERSEE ALL OF THESE PIDS.

ALL NINE OF THEM. YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S HITTING THE BOTTOM LINE.

YES, SIR. OKAY. HOW MUCH IS THAT COST RELATED TO THE CONTRACTOR'S COSTS THAT WENT UP FOR MOWING AND WEED, EATING AND PLANTING NEW TREES AND WHATEVER AMENITIES WERE ADDED IN ANY OF THESE? LET'S JUST TAKE THE COLONIES OR THE GREENWAYS.

WELL. THAT WAS A GOOD QUESTION, SIR.

OKAY. SO WHY SHE'S WHY SHE'S GOING THERE.

WE FIVE GET TO SIT IN IN THE ROLE OF APPROVAL OR DISAPPROVAL NOT MANAGER.

SO A LOT LIKE HAVING STAFF.

WE DON'T MANAGE THIS.

WE DON'T GET TO GO AND LOOK AT THE CONTRACT AND SAY, WELL, WE THINK YOU'RE OVERPAYING FOR WEED EATING, BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING PRETTY GOOD ON TREE TRIMMING OR YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE PUTTING OUT SO MANY BRADFORD PEARS, YOU KNOW, REALLY YOU'RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BE BUYING OAK TREES OR WHATEVER.

SO THESE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORS THAT THAT LIVE IN THOSE AREAS THAT GET TO DO ALL THIS.

WE GET TO RECEIVE THESE AND EITHER APPROVE THEM OR DISAPPROVE THEM.

AND IF WE DISAPPROVE THEM, WE SEND THEM BACK AND WE SAY, WELL, YOU'VE PRESENTED LESS REVENUES THAN YOUR EXPENSES AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT. AND THAT'S WHY WE WOULD DISAPPROVE THEM.

WE WOULD NEVER DISAPPROVE THEM BASED ON A SELECTION OR AN AMENITY OR, YOU KNOW, AN AWARD OF A CONTRACT.

THEY'VE NEGOTIATED ALL OF THAT ON THEIR OWN.

SO THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY RUNNING THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD BUDGET FOR THIS.

SO IF THEY HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD BUDGET ISSUE AND INCREASE BASED ON TREES, TREE TRIMMING, WEED EATING, YOU KNOW, MOWING, MAINTENANCE, WHATEVER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T HELP THEM WITH.

HOWEVER, I WOULD DIFFERENTIATE THAT FROM ARE WE PROVIDING AN ADMIN POSITION THAT'S INCREASING THAT AND IS IT EXORBITANT? YOU KNOW, SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH THAT IS.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE HER A WHILE TO LOOK UP ON EACH ONE OF THESE IS THAT EXACT.

SO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND I DON'T HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS EITHER, BUT IF YOU TOOK IT IN PERCENTAGE, THERE ARE THE SMALLER PIDS HAVE A HUGE PERCENTAGE INCREASE ON THE ADMIN FEE.

OKAY. IT'S ONE OF ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I GOT WAS IT'S OVER 1,000% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.

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OKAY. ON THE ADMIN FEE, WHICH MEANS THAT HISTORICALLY WE WERE JUST NOT CHARGING AT ALL UNDER THIS.

NOW WE DO HAVE ONE QUAIL CREEK WHERE THE ADMIN FEE NOW IS HIGHER THAN THE ACTUAL MAINTENANCE CONTRACT BECAUSE IT'S JUST A VERY SMALL AREA, BUT YET YOU STILL HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS TO RUN THE RUN THE PID.

THAT IS WHERE WE'VE COMMITTED TO LOOK AT IT IN THE NEXT YEAR.

SO WHEN IF YOU IF YOU WANT IT IN PERCENTAGE NUMBERS, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME 37% IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST ONE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE BECAUSE THIS WAS SUBSIDIZED THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND UP UNTIL THIS BUDGET PROPOSAL.

SO TO GET EVERY HISTORICAL CONTRACT AND THE INCREASE, IT WOULD TAKE US SOME TIME AND WE CAN DO THAT VERY, VERY TIMELY FOR YOU.

BUT I'M NOT SURE WE CAN DO THAT HERE AT THE PODIUM AND GET YOU OKAY WITH THAT.

OKAY. SO THE SMALLER ONES, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE PERCENTAGE WISE.

OKAY. MAYBE WE WITHDRAW THAT QUESTION AND GO MORE.

BUT WHAT I WOULD ASK JUSTIN, WOULD YOU HAVE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT IT INCREASED ON MAINTENANCE IN EACH PID? THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT WE INCREASED.

DO YOU HAVE THE FIVE YEAR PLANS HANDY? YES. WHERE ARE THEY? GET THE FIVE YEAR PLAN AND I THINK WE CAN GO DOWN ONE NUMBER.

OKAY. SO LET ME ASK YOU A POLICY QUESTION.

FLOYD AND LAURA MAY HAVE MY ANSWER, BUT IS THERE AN OPTION FOR THE PID TO OPT OUT OF THE ADMIN FEE? THEY'LL ADMINISTRATE IT ON THEIR OWN.

OKAY. NO, NOT PER THE PID PETITION.

THE PID PETITIONS CALL FOR THE MAINTENANCE, THE ADMIN FEE TO BE MANAGED THROUGH THE CITY.

OKAY. OKAY.

SO WE'RE PULLING SOME OF THE REST OF THE COSTS.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGE IN THOSE ADMIN FEES, YES, LARGE, LARGE PERCENTAGES.

SO KEEP THIS IN PERSPECTIVE.

SO WE WENT FROM HALF A POSITION BEING ALLOCATED OUT TO THOSE PIDS TO NOW ONE AND ONE HALF POSITIONS.

AND I WAS AT ONE OF THE PID BUDGET REVIEW MEETINGS, I THINK IT WAS MAYBE COLONIES.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, WHY DO WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY SO MUCH RELATED TO THIS POSITION? AND I SAID, BECAUSE THE CITY DOESN'T ALLOW THAT POSITION TO WORK ON ANYTHING ELSE CITY RELATED ONLY PID STUFF.

SO THEREFORE THE PIDS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY THE COSTS ASSOCIATED.

AND SO WHAT WE DID THIS YEAR IS WE ALLOCATED THAT ADDITIONAL POSITION BASED ON THE TOTAL BENEFITS OF I'M SORRY, THE TOTAL PID BUDGET AND WE JUST ALLOCATED IT ACROSS.

NOW AGAIN, THE SMALLER PIDS GOT A CERTAINLY SMALLER FEE ASSOCIATED, BUT THE BIGGER PIDS GOT A BIGGER ONE.

SO HANG ON, I'M GOING.

SO FOR INSTANCE, IN SORRY.

AND IF YOU LET'S LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT COLONIES FOR A SECOND.

SO THEIR PRIOR YEAR FEE WAS $36,500 ESSENTIALLY FOR FOR ADMIN COSTS. THEIR NEW YEAR COSTS ARE 40,714.

THAT'S ABOUT AN 11 A LITTLE OVER 11% INCREASE.

OKAY. BUT THEN IF YOU GO AND LOOK AT I THINK FLOYD TALKED ABOUT QUAIL CREEK PID, ONE OF OUR SMALLEST PIDS, THEIR ADMIN FEE LAST YEAR WAS $944.

IT NOW HAS GONE UP TO $4,500.

THAT IS A 379% INCREASE.

SO AGAIN, AS FLOYD MENTIONED, WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT WE HAVE COMMUNICATED TO THE PIDS IS THAT WE WE DID SAY LAST YEAR WE WOULD GET YOU ALL BETTER CUSTOMER SERVICE FROM THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, AND WE FEEL LIKE WE ARE DOING THAT BY ADDING THE ADDITIONAL POSITION IN.

BUT WHAT WE'RE TELLING THEM THIS YEAR IS WE HAVE WE WANT TO RELOOK AT HOW THIS IS BEING CHARGED OUT TO THE PIDS TO ENSURE THAT THE PIDS, WHERE THE MOST TIME IS SPENT, ARE INCURRING THE BULK OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE WITH THE NEW POSITION ON THAT, THOUGH, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MULTIPLE OPTIONS, EVEN THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT OCCUR OR MAYBE THE NUMBER OF AGENDA ITEMS. BUT AS FLOYD MENTIONED, WHAT DIRECTION HE HAS GIVEN STAFF AT THIS POINT IS WE WANT TO TRACK ACTUAL COSTS.

OKAY. AND THEN BY TRACKING ACTUAL COSTS, WE CAN SHOW BACK TO THOSE PIDS TRULY WHAT THIS WHAT THIS POSITION IS INCURRING ON A DAY IN, DAY OUT BASIS SPLIT BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE 10 OR 11 PIDS.

YEAH. DOES THAT HELP YOU SOME AND I CAN GO THROUGH THESE PERCENTAGE INCREASES IF YOU WANT ON ALL OF THEM BUT YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ACTUAL

[03:20:02]

TIME SPENT. SO NEXT YEAR IN THE BUDGET WE WOULD ANTICIPATE ADJUSTMENTS POTENTIALLY BASED OFF THAT DATA.

SO AS WE GO THROUGH THIS, THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE ACCURATE DATA ABOUT HOW MUCH TIME IS ACTUALLY SPENT WITH EACH PID.

RIGHT NOW WE HAD TO USE THE SAME INDIRECT COST METHOD TO ALLOCATE THE COST WHICH RESULTED IN THESE NUMBERS, AND I'M TAKING IT.

WE CAN GIVE EACH DIFFERENTIAL FOR EACH PID AS WE COME UP FOR THAT ADMINISTRATIVE INCREASE.

JUST LOOKING AT LARGE PIDS 40,000 SMALL PIDS 3 OR 4000 ARE WE ARE WE OFFSETTING? DO WE DO WE HAVE $120,000 TOTAL ADMIN COST FOR ALL NINE? SO THE YES, SO THE 100, IT'S ABOUT 130,000, 130 IN TOTAL FOR ALL OF THEM.

AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT JUST THOSE POSITIONS THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CHANGE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PAYING FOR THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CUT THEIR CHECKS FOR THEM.

WE PROCESS THINGS THROUGH PURCHASING FOR THEM.

YOU KNOW THAT OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT DOES WORK FOR EVERY ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PID.

AND SO THOSE ARE KIND OF FACTORING THROUGH THIS INDIRECT COST ALLOCATION.

BUT AGAIN, THE BIG CHANGE THAT WAS SEEN, IT WAS RELATED TO HAVING A WHOLLY DEDICATED POSITION JUST TO DO PID WORK DAY IN, DAY OUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, DO THESE REST IN THE SAME APPROVAL AS THE BUDGET OR DO THESE SIT OUTSIDE OF OUR BUDGET? SO THE INDIRECT COST AMOUNT DOES COME IN AS A REVENUE SOURCE BACK INTO YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

SO IT'S RECOUPING THOSE COSTS THAT WERE INCURRING INSIDE THE GENERAL FUND TO FACILITATE BECAUSE JUSTIN'S POSITION AND THE OTHER FULL TIME POSITION ARE INSIDE.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY MANAGER'S DEPARTMENT.

BUT THEN YOUR ACCOUNTING FUNCTION, YOUR PURCHASING FUNCTION, YOUR LEGAL FUNCTION ARE ALL INSIDE YOUR GENERAL FUND, JUST LOOKING AT THE NEED TO APPROVE THESE TODAY.

YES, I THINK THAT WAS THE QUESTION.

OH, SORRY. I HAVE TO BE APPROVED WITH OUR BUDGET.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY. YES, WE'RE ON THE SAME TIME FRAME.

WE HAVE TO DO TWO READINGS AND THEY HAVE TO BE APPROVED BEFORE SEPTEMBER 30TH.

OTHERWISE THEY DEFAULT BACK TO CURRENT YEAR ASSESSMENTS, CURRENT YEAR APPROVED BUDGETS.

SO IF THEY HAVE ADDITIONAL COSTS, THEY WILL EXCEED BUDGET AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THEIR ASSESSMENTS WILL SUPPORT IT.

SO, YES. THANK YOU.

OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL. SO BASICALLY WE'VE JUST INSTITUTED WHAT'S OUR WHAT'S OUR PHRASE WE LIKE COST RECOVERY.

WE'VE JUST APPLIED THAT TO THE PIDS.

YES SIR. OKAY. THIS IS A FIVE YEAR PLAN, CORRECT? THEY HAVE A FIVE YEAR PLAN.

THIS TOTAL LIKE 905,000 AND THE COST IS 904,000.

THAT'S JUST FOR ONE YEAR.

YES, SIR. OKAY, SIR.

AND THEY DO HAVE RESERVES BUILT IN.

SO YOU WILL SEE ON SOME OF THE BUDGETS THAT THE EXPENSES ARE EXCEED THE EXPENSES EXCEED THE REVENUE COMING IN.

BUT THEY DO HAVE A LARGE SURPLUS.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE WE'VE SUBSIDIZED IT FOR SO MANY YEARS.

YES. YES.

SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE GREENWAY'S PID, IT WOULD BE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO.

WELL, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.

YES, SIR. IF THERE ARE OR NOT.

SO DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO. MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE MAYBE MORE IN THE WAY OF GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET.

WAS THIS PRESENTED IN THAT WAY AT THAT TIME DURING THE BUDGET THAT WE WOULD DO A COST RECOVERY TO EACH PID AND THAT THIS WOULD SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THEIR PID FEE? YES, WE HAD BEEN TELLING THEM OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS THAT THIS COST WOULD GO UP AND THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING AN ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBER TO WHO WAS 100% DEDICATED TO THE PID AND MANAGING THEIR PROJECTS.

OKAY. WELL, LET'S OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING, THEN.

YES, SIR. THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM EIGHT F? SEEING NO ONE. I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE MUCH TO DISCUSS.

BUT WE DID DISCUSS IT.

I WOULD LIKE TO AFFECT IT IN A BETTER WAY THAN I CAN.

I JUST DON'T KNOW.

WELL, IS THERE ANY OTHER OPTIONS WE'RE NOT SEEING? IS THERE. IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT HERE?

[03:25:01]

I'M NOT 100% SURE OF YOUR QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COME UP HERE.

WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS, AND IT'S NOT BEEN AN UNCONTESTED PROCESS WITH THE PID BOARD MEMBERS THEMSELVES.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PID BOARD MEMBERS THEMSELVES, MANY OF THEM, HAVE EXPRESSED THE SAME CONCERNS AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE SAME DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN TO THIS POINT WHERE THIS IS THE BEST BUDGET WE CAN PROPOSE AT THIS TIME.

AND THAT'S OUT OF THEIR MEETINGS, NOT THIS MEETING.

I'M NOT PUTTING YOU IN THE BOX THAT SAYS YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.

WE BROUGHT FORWARD OUT OF THAT SAME DISCUSSION WITH THE PID BOARD MEMBERS THIS SAME THING THAT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT.

IT'S COST RECOVERY AND WE COMMITTED TO LOOKING AT IT FOR THEM IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

SO I WOULD JUST HAVE TO OFFER TO YOU AT THIS POINT, MAYOR, THAT THAT THIS IS THE BEST BUDGET WE COULD BRING FORWARD WITH THAT SAME DISCUSSION WITH THOSE PID BOARD MEMBERS. DOES THAT HELP ANSWER YOUR CONCERN THAT YOU ASKED? YES, SIR, IT DOES.

AND THOSE PID BOARDS ARE ALL RECOMMENDING THESE BUDGETS, AND WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO REFER ANYTHING BACK DOWN TO THE PID BOARD BECAUSE YOU NEED TIME.

AND THERE MAY NOT BE A SOLUTION.

THE ONLY OPTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE, WOULD WE GO BACK TO SUBSIDIZE THEM, WHICH AFFECTS YOUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET THAT YOU'VE PROPOSED? THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION I KNOW AT THIS POINT.

I DON'T KNOW OF ANOTHER OPTION OTHER THAN TO SAY WE WOULD SUBSIDIZE THEM.

OKAY. OKAY.

AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD.

AND WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS SAME DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD.

IT'S BEEN CONTENTIOUS IN THE IN THE PRESENTATION OF THE PID BOARD MEMBERS.

THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS THAT DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE IN PROTECTING THE INTEREST OF THE TAXPAYER AND THE HOMEOWNER.

THEY HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB OF BRINGING THESE ISSUES FORWARD.

WE'VE BUT WE'VE MAINTAINED OUR FOCUS THAT WE'VE GOT TO PROVIDE SERVICE AND WE'VE GOT TO DO IT WITHOUT SUBSIDIZING.

THAT'S THE MAIN TWO THINGS OUT OF THIS.

SO, MAYOR, I WOULD SAY THE OPTION WOULD BE GO BACK TO SUBSIDIZING.

THAT'S THE ONLY OPTION I KNOW OF.

RIGHT. OKAY.

OKAY. MOTION.

MAYOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE ACCEPT THE CONSENT ITEM EIGHT F AS STATED OR ORDINANCE 8072.

I'M SORRY STEPHANIE.

ADOPT SECOND.

OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

DO YOU NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT MOTION? NO PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES FIVE ZERO.

CAN WE TAKE A BREAK, MAYOR? YEAH. JUSTIN I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

YES, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK.

YES, SIR. THEN WE'RE GOING TO LET YOU COME BACK UP HERE AND HIT.

HOW MANY YOU GOT? EIGHT MORE.

OKAY, TEN MINUTES.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THE REST OF THEM PRETTY FAST.

BACK IN SESSION.

IF YOU WILL HEAD BACK TO YOUR SEAT, PLEASE.

I SINCERELY APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENCE AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS LONG AGENDA.

SO, MR. OPPEL, IT'S YOU AGAIN.

HE WASN'T EXPECTING THAT FIRST GO ROUND.

[LAUGHTER] I'M READY FOR IT ANOTHER EIGHT TIMES.

SO. OKAY, SO NEXT UP, WE HAVE THE HERITAGE HILLS PID.

[8.G. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8073]

THEIR ADVISORY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON MAY 11TH TO KEEP THE ASSESSMENTS THE SAME AS THEY'VE BEEN, AND THAT IS $0.08 PER SQUARE FOOT, BRINGING THE TOTAL ASSESSMENTS TO $427,364.

THEIR EXPENSES CURRENTLY ARE $191,670 AND THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT REVENUE IS ADEQUATE TO COVER ALL THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AT THIS TIME.

SO. QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO GET SO MUCH MONEY? OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, MR. OPPEL. HERITAGE HILLS.

THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY'RE ON TO PHASE THREE RIGHT NOW OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.

SO. OKAY. NOT FULLY ESTABLISHED YET.

SO. OKAY. SO MAYBE FEWER FEATURES TO MAINTAIN, LESS TO MOW AND [INAUDIBLE] TAKE CARE OF FOR NOW.

FOR NOW. BUT IT'S COMING ONLINE AS WE SPEAK RIGHT NOW AT THE END OF PHASE TWO.

PHASE THREE IS COMING ON RIGHT NOW.

ANYTHING FURTHER, COUNCIL? OKAY. PUBLIC HEARING.

WE ARE GOING TO OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

DO I HAVE ANYONE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM EIGHT G.

SEEING NO ONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE 8073 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

[03:30:04]

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

[8.H. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8074]

ITEM EIGHT H.

OKAY. ITEM EIGHT H IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 8074.

THIS IS FOR THE PINNACLE PID.

THEY ARE LOCATED A LITTLE SOUTH OF RANDALL HIGH SCHOOL, AND THEY ARE A NEW PID OR THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT IT IS STILL IN THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE RIGHT NOW.

SO THEIR BOARD VOTED ON JUNE 29TH TO UNANIMOUSLY APPROVE A NO CHANGE IN THE ASSESSMENT RATE, WHICH IS $0.10 PER SQUARE FOOT, BRINGING THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO $122,594.

THEIR EXPENSES CURRENTLY ARE $76,090 AND GIVEN THE TIME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS, THE ASSESSMENTS ARE ADEQUATE TO COVER EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND INTO THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU, SIR. ANY QUESTIONS FOR JUSTIN? AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM EIGHT H.

SEEING NO ONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE AND ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8074 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

I'LL SECOND. MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

[8.I. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8075]

OKAY, MR. OPAL.

ITEM EIGHT I POINT WEST PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8075.

POINT WEST IS ONE OF OUR UNIQUE PIDS.

THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS OR HOMES IN THIS PID IS PURELY A BUSINESS PARK.

IT'S LOCATED WEST OF THE TEXAS TECH HOSPITAL DISTRICT.

AND WHERE THAT JOE TACO IS OFF TO THE WEST THERE WHERE BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD AND THOSE ENTITIES ARE.

SO THEIR ASSESSMENTS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT THEY BRING IN IS $52,000.

BUT THE TOTAL COSTS ARE DIVIDED OR DIVIDED BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS ACCORDING TO THE PERCENTAGE THAT THEY OWN.

SO IT VARIES BETWEEN EACH PROPERTY BASED ON THEIR SIZE.

SO THE EXPENSES RIGHT NOW ARE $74,441.

THEY DO HAVE A LARGE SURPLUS, WHICH IS WHY YOU SEE THAT DIFFERENCE IN THE GAP.

AND THEIR BOARD WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED THIS BUDGET.

SO, OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AT THIS TIME.

WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM EIGHT I.

ANYONE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THAT AT THIS TIME, WE WILL CLOSE THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION ON ORDINANCE 8075 THAT WE TAKE IT AS STATED.

SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EIGHT I PASSES WITH THE FIVE ZERO VOTE.

MR. OPPEL. ITEM EIGHT J, PLEASE.

[8.J. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8076]

OKAY. QUAIL CREEK PID ORDINANCE NUMBER 8076.

THE ADVISORY BOARD.

ADVISORY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON MAY 25TH TO INCREASE THE ASSESSMENTS BY $50 TO $400 PER LOT, WHICH BRINGS THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO $15,720. THE EXPENSES TOTAL $11,600, AND THE ASSESSMENT REVENUE IS ADEQUATE TO COVER ALL THE COSTS OF MAINTENANCE AT THIS TIME. OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM EIGHT J.

SEEING NO ONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8076 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

MR. OPPEL, ITEM EIGHT, PLEASE.

[8.K. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8077]

TOWN SQUARE. ORDINANCE NUMBER 8077.

THE ADVISORY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON APRIL 27TH TO NOT CHANGE THE ASSESSMENT RATE, SO IT IS 0.1111 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT, BRINGING THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO $166,050.

THE EXPENSES TOTAL $392,050, WHICH INCLUDES A $200,000 DEVELOPER REIMBURSEMENT.

THE ADVISORY BOARD RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT REVENUE IS MORE THAN ADEQUATE TO COVER THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE, GENTLEMEN? AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 8-K.

SEEING NO ONE.

I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8077 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON ITEM EIGHT K.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED AK PASSES WITH A50 VOTE.

MR. OPPEL, ITEM EIGHT, PLEASE.

[8.L. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8078]

[03:35:01]

THE TUTBURY PID ORDINANCE NUMBER 8078 AND TUTBURY IS LOCATED KIND OF TUCKED INTO THE COLONIES NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEIR ADVISORY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON APRIL 21ST TO INCREASE THE ASSESSMENTS BY $100 TO $779 PER LOT, BRINGING THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO $18,696. THEIR EXPENSES TOTALED $27,444 AND THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT REVENUE IS ADEQUATE TO COVER THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AT THIS TIME.

AND THEY DO HAVE A SURPLUS AS WELL.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM EIGHT L.

SEEING NO ONE. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8078 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

I'LL SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? EIGHT L PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

MR. OPPEL. ITEM EIGHT M, PLEASE, SIR.

[8.M. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8079]

THE VINEYARDS PID ORDINANCE NUMBER 8079.

THEIR ADVISORY BOARD VOTED ON JUNE 26TH TO UNANIMOUSLY INCREASE THE ASSESSMENT BY $25 TO $75 PER LOT.

THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT TOTALS.

WELL, THAT WAS REDUNDANT.

THE ASSESSMENT TOTAL IS $26,250.

THE EXPENSES TOTAL $26,759.

AND THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT REVENUE IS ADEQUATE TO COVER THE COSTS OF OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE AT THIS TIME.

AND THE VINEYARDS IS STILL ALSO EXPANDING AND CONSTRUCTION NOW AS WELL.

SO. THANK YOU, SIR.

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM EIGHT M.

SEEING NO ONE.

WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE ACCEPT ORDINANCE 8079 AS STATED.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCIL PLACE ONE.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE? ALL RIGHT. I'M SORRY, MAYOR.

NO, YOU GO RIGHT AHEAD, MAYOR.

[8.N. PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 8080]

LAST ONE. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL HANGING IN THERE WITH ME ON THIS.

SO THIS IS THE COLONIES PID ORDINANCE NUMBER 8080.

THE ADVISORY BOARD VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON JULY 20TH TO INCREASE THE ASSESSMENT BY $0.01 TO $0.14 PER SQUARE FOOT, BRINGING THE TOTAL ASSESSMENT TO $1,406,638. THE EXPENSES TOTAL $1,591,978.

AND THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT REVENUE IS ADEQUATE TO COVER ALL OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE.

THANK YOU, SIR. YES, SIR. MAYOR, I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF FROM ANY DISCUSSION OR THE VOTE ON.

YOUR RESIDENT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

CORRECT? OKAY.

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM EIGHT IN.

SEEING. NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 8080 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 4 0 VOTE.

THANK YOU. HEY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.

MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT O.

[8.O. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 09-12-23-1]

. WE HAVE MS. KASHION SMITH COMING UP FOR THIS ONE.

IS THAT RIGHT? SHE'S BEEN WITH US ALL DAY TOO.

SO I DIDN'T PREPARE ANYTHING.

I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT OUR BOARD DID APPROVE LAST WEEK, AND THEN IT MOVES TO YOU GUYS FOR FINAL APPROVAL BASED ON THE PROJECTIONS.

AND LOOKING BACK, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH LAURA AND SHE'S REALLY WHERE THE NUMBERS COME FROM.

AND WE LOOK AT THE COLLECTIONS FOR A FEW YEARS AND WHAT MAKES SENSE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS TO PUT THE PROJECTION TOGETHER FOR FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR IN THE COPY YOU DO HAVE A COPY OF IN THE FURTHEST COLUMN IS ALSO LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS. SO YOU CAN KIND OF COMPARE WHERE WE'RE AT LOOKING AT THIS YEAR THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN AND WHAT WE'VE BUDGETED FOR NEXT YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.

I ACTUALLY WATCHED I'LL GO THROUGH ALL OF THE HOT TAX, SO I KNOW THAT YOU GOT A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION ON THAT DURING THE BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

I DIDN'T WANT TO REHASH EVERYTHING, BUT DEFINITELY OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CURIOSITIES.

NO, WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO REDO THE PRESENTATION, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD GRASP OF IT.

I FIGURED SO WOULD JUST ASK IF COUNCIL HAS ANY QUESTIONS.

OKAY, MS. KASHION, THANK YOU FOR COMING UP.

THANK YOU. IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE JUST NEED A MOTION ON THIS ONE.

[03:40:02]

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR RESOLUTION NUMBER 0912-23-1 THAT WE ACCEPT IT AS STATED. SECOND.

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT.

IS THAT CORRECT? MS. CITY SECRETARY.

THE RESOLUTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

[8.P. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 09-12-23-2]

ITEM 8 P IS MR. SCHNIEDERJAN BACK THERE IN THE BACK.

OR YOU GOT A FEW HERE IN A ROW FOR ONE MAYOR.

SO IF YOU WANT TO HIT THEM ALL, THAT'S GREAT.

YES, SIR. THAT WAS MY PLAN.

I APPRECIATE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU, GUYS FOR HAVING ME. KYLE SCHNIEDERJAN, DIRECTOR OF CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND SO WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT A COUPLE OF THREE RESOLUTIONS THAT AUTHORIZE THREE OR GIVE THE CITY MANAGER THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE THREE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS WITH WITH TXDOT.

SO LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRIDGES AND BRIDGE INFRASTRUCTURE.

THE STATE OF TEXAS OPERATES A HIGHWAY BRIDGE PROGRAM, THE HBP.

IT IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM ADMINISTERED BY TXDOT, BUT IT INCLUDES THE REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF ON SYSTEM OR STATE OWNED BRIDGES AND OFF SYSTEM BRIDGES, BRIDGES OWNED BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

THREE OF OUR BRIDGES MET CRITERIA OF THE OF THE BRIDGE PROGRAM TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR FOR SOME FUNDING.

THIS PROGRAM ADMINISTERED IS AGAIN RUN BY TXDOT AND ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT THEY DO IS AN ANNUAL INSPECTION.

SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE IS TO DO ANNUAL INSPECTION ON ON THESE BRIDGES.

AND SO THEY DO THAT ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND THEY THEY RATE THE BRIDGES, THEY DO AN EVALUATION FOR LOW GRADING.

SO IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE FOR LOAD RATING, THEY EVALUATE DURING THAT ANNUAL INSPECTION AND THEN THEY GIVE EACH BRIDGE A RATING.

AND BASED ON THAT RATING, WE COMPETE STATEWIDE FOR THESE FUNDS BASED ON A PRIORITY OF HOW OUR BRIDGE IS RATED THEIR DEFICIENCY RATING COULD BE A DEFICIENCY RATING OR A STRUCTURAL DEFICIENCY RATING, AS WELL AS EXPANSION.

AND THOSE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FOR PRIORITIZATION.

THREE OF OUR BRIDGES ARE THREE BRIDGES WITHIN THE CITY.

LIMITS CAME UP AND WERE CONSIDERED FOR FUNDING THAT IS YUCCA AVENUE THAT CROSSES EAST AMARILLO CREEK IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE CITY, IRWIN ROAD, WHICH IT'S ACTUALLY THE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF IRWIN AND FAIRLANE AVENUE.

IT ALSO CROSSES EAST AMARILLO CREEK AND THEN THE ADAMS HUGHES CONNECTOR, WHICH IS BASICALLY THE A RAILROAD BRIDGE, NOT NOT A NOT A CREEK OR RIVER BRIDGE, BUT ALL THREE OF THOSE BRIDGES.

HERE'S HERE'S THE APPROXIMATE LOCATIONS OF THOSE ON ON THE MAP.

WHAT HOW THIS PROGRAM WORKS IS IT YOUR MPO APPOINTMENT WAS WAS TIMELY BECAUSE IN THE ITEMS LISTED IN RED ARE WHERE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS INVOLVED.

AND THE FIRST ONE OF THOSE RED OPPORTUNITIES THERE, ITEM NUMBER TWO IN THAT SECOND COLUMN IS, IS TO DISCUSS THESE BRIDGES AS PART OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND DISCUSS THEM AS PART WITH TXDOT.

WE'RE WE GET A BRIDGE REPORT, WE CAN REVIEW THAT REPORT.

WE CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT.

WE CAN EVEN DEBATE.

DID YOU GET IT ALL OR MAYBE MAYBE THIS OR THAT OTHER QUESTION OR COMMENT THAT HAPPENS MAINLY IN THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE OF THE MPO, WHERE I AM THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON THE MPO.

AND SO WE DISCUSSED THOSE BRIDGES.

WE DISCUSSED WHAT WHAT THEY OBSERVED.

AND THEN BASED ON THE RESULTS OF HOW OUR BRIDGES GET RATED, THE BOTTOM THING RIGHT THERE, THE RESULTS OF COLUMN NUMBER TWO IS THAT THOSE BRIDGES START TO COMPETE.

THEY COMPETE WITH THE OTHER 25 TXDOT DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE WHEN A BRIDGE HAS BEEN SELECTED, THE OR ONCE IT'S BEEN IN COLUMN THREE, IT GETS PRIORITIZED INTO A STATEWIDE LIST.

AND THEN THEY SELECT PROGRAMED PROJECTS.

THEN IT COMES BACK TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN THE TOP OF COLUMN FOR THEIR ITEM NUMBER ONE IS EXECUTE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS.

AND SO BASICALLY THE STATE COMES BACK TO THE LOCAL ENTITIES AND SAYS, HEY, ARE YOU COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT AS WELL AS US? TYPICALLY THAT INCLUDES A FINANCIAL COMMITMENT.

[03:45:03]

THIS YEAR, THE IIJA, THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS AND JOBS ACT, WHICH IS A FEDERAL FUNDING PROGRAM, IS COVERING THE LOCAL MATCHES ASSOCIATED WITH THESE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENTS.

THAT HASN'T HISTORICALLY BEEN THE CASE, BUT IT IS THIS THIS YEAR, TYPICALLY WHEN WE'RE DEBATING ITEM NUMBER ONE, THEY'RE THEY'RE ASKING US FOR DOLLARS, BUT THIS YEAR THEY'RE NOT. AND SO THEN ONCE THE CITY EXECUTES AND SAYS TO THE STATE, YEP, WE'RE COMMITTED TO DOING THIS PROJECT AS WELL, THEN THE STATE BEGINS THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT PHASE.

SO THEY'LL ACTUALLY HIRE AN ENGINEER TO DO TO TAKE BASICALLY THE RESULTS THAT THEY OBSERVED DURING THEIR ANNUAL INSPECTION AND TURN THAT INTO A SCOPE OF WORK FOR AN ACTUAL PROJECT. AND THEN THE PROJECT MOVES, MOVES FORWARD AS, AS AS THEY SEE FIT.

THEY DO ADMINISTER THAT PROCESS, THE DESIGN PROCESS AND THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

AND SO FROM THE POINT THAT WE AUTHORIZE AN AFA AND IN PARTICULAR THIS ONE WITH NO FINANCIAL COMMITMENT, WE WILL BE RELATIVELY HANDS OFF FROM FROM THAT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, ALTHOUGH I FULLY EXPECT THROUGH THE THROUGH THE MPO AND COORDINATION WITH TXDOT, WE WILL HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE COMMENTS AND HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THOSE BRIDGES WE WILL OWN BE THE OWNER OF THEM WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE DONE.

BUT AT THIS TIME THERE IS NO FORMAL SCOPE OF WORK.

I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO EACH ONE OF THOSE BRIDGES AND EXACTLY WHAT REPAIRS THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE.

THEY WILL LOOK AT IT FROM AN EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT.

THEY WANT TO DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO.

BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THERE WILL BE SOME CONSIDERATIONS FOR LIMITATIONS.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO FULLY RECONSTRUCT A BRIDGE, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO DO THAT.

THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE REPAIRS OR AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR THINGS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT FROM A SCOPE STANDPOINT.

NONE OF THOSE.

THE ONLY OTHER FACET FACET OF PLANNING THAT IS THAT ARE WE ASKING FOR ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY? IT DOES NOT APPEAR AT THIS TIME THAT ANY OF THOSE THREE LOCATIONS WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE REQUIRING US TO GO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY FROM FROM AN ADJACENT LANDOWNER. THAT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE THE CASE AT THIS AT THIS TIME.

THE ACTION ITEM, EXCUSE ME THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TODAY IS BASICALLY THE COUNCIL AUTHORIZING A RESOLUTION THAT THAT GIVES THE CITY MANAGER THE AUTHORITY TO EXECUTE THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT ON THESE THREE BRIDGES.

AGAIN, NO FUNDING BEING REQUESTED AS PART OF THAT AGREEMENT.

AND ULTIMATELY, THIS THIS BEING A VERY CHEAP WAY FOR US TO IMPROVE SOME INFRASTRUCTURE STAFF IS IS ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDING THE AUTHORIZATION OF THOSE AFAS.

ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, GUYS.

MINE WOULD BE THE YUCCA BRIDGE AND EVALUATION AND POTENTIAL CLOSING DOWN OF THAT BASED ON WHAT MRS. MOSLEY WAS REQUESTING.

SO SHE HAS CONCERNS.

I COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING VISIBLY WHEN I WAS OUT THERE.

BUT CAN WE DO AN EVALUATION OF THAT? I HATE TO CLOSE SOMETHING DOWN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.

I'M ASSUMING THESE, YOU KNOW, EXPEDITED FUNDING STILL FOLLOWS UP WITH PLANNING AND THEN LETTING A CONTRACT AND THEN SCHEDULING.

SO ARE WE LOOKING AT A 12 MONTH TURNAROUND NORMALLY? YES, SIR. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD ESTIMATION OF THAT TIMELINE.

THE SO THERE IS SOME LEAD TIME ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THE BASED ON THOSE.

MS. MOSLEY ABSOLUTELY.

WE'LL GO DO A REEVALUATION AND IN FACT, I'LL COORDINATE THAT WITH TXDOT, TXDOT HAS GOT THOSE BRIDGE EXPERTS ON STAFF AND SO I WILL LEAN ON THEM A LITTLE BIT FOR FOR THAT EXPERTISE.

BUT WE'LL GO DO WE ABSOLUTELY WILL GO DO AN INSPECTION AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD A SIMILAR SITUATION HERE ON ON BUCHANAN STREET WHERE WE MADE A JUDGMENT CALL TO CLOSE BUCHANAN STREET.

IF THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE, WE WILL MAKE THAT CALL.

THERE ALSO IS SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR A LITTLE BIT OF MAINTENANCE.

YOU KNOW, SHE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THERE IS A POTHOLE ON THE IRWIN BRIDGE THAT JUST RECENTLY SHOWED UP.

WE STILL HAVE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES.

THIS ISN'T WRITE IT OFF AND GIVE IT GIVE IT TO THE STATE.

WE STILL HAVE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS RESPONSIBILITIES UNTIL WE GET TO THIS TO THIS POINT.

AND SO WE WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES.

THE IRWIN BRIDGE IS ABOUT A THREE FOOT SINKHOLE, SO MORE THAN A POTHOLE.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT BOTH OF THOSE IN THE EVALUATION AND WHATEVER STEPS ARE NEEDED, THAT TAKES CARE OF MY QUESTIONS.

ANYTHING FURTHER FROM COUNCIL.

OH, OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

WOULD NEED A MOTION ON ITEM 8 P.

[03:50:01]

OKAY. OH, WE CAN DO ALL THREE OR JUST.

NO, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO VOTE INDEPENDENT.

OKAY. I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 0912232AS STATED IN THE AGENDA.

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. AYE. THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT, Q.

[8.Q. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 09-12-23-3]

I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 09-12-23-3 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

[8.R. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 09-12-23-4]

ITEM EIGHT R.

I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 09-12-23-4 AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA.

I'LL SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM THE RIGHT SIDE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

MOVING ALONG TO ITEM EIGHT S, WE DO HAVE OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, MR.

[8.S. CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NO. 09-12-23-5]

ANDREW FREEMAN, HERE TO DISCUSS THIS.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO DISCUSS YOURSELF, SIR, OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HANDLE IT? I'M HAPPY FOR YOU TO HANDLE IT, BUT.

OKAY. I'LL STAND UP HERE, THOUGH.

WELL, IT JUST SEEMS FITTING FOR YOU TO STAND AT THE MICROPHONE.

WE DON'T REALLY NEED A WHOLE LOT FROM YOU, SO LET ME SEE.

YOU HAD TOLD ME THERE WAS A BLANK TO BE FILLED OUT ON THIS.

YES. DO WE.

DO WE HAVE.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO WALK US THROUGH ANYTHING FROM YOUR SIDE THAT YOU WOULD NEED TAKEN CARE OF OR A MATTER BEFORE WE, YOU KNOW, PUT THIS OUT? NO, JUST DISCUSSION. AND A MOTION WITH THE BLANK FILLED IN IS ALL THAT'S REQUIRED.

BUT AS FAR AS DISCUSSION Y'ALL CAN OPEN DISCUSSION.

OKAY. I'LL JUST TAKE THE LEAD ON THE OPEN DISCUSSION HERE.

ITEM EIGHT S IS A DISCUSSION AND A MOTION.

WE'LL TAKE ACTION ON TRANSITIONING ANDREW FREEMAN FROM OUR INTERIM, WHICH HE IS OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGER RIGHT NOW, BUT HE'S ACTING AS THE CITY MANAGER AND TRANSITIONING HIM INTO OUR OFFICIAL INTERIM CITY MANAGER.

AND SO THAT WOULD MOVE YOU OUT OF YOUR DEPUTY ROLE THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE THAT POSITION OPEN.

SO THAT MEANS WE HAVE AN OPEN POSITION THAT WE'RE NO LONGER PAYING FOR AND MOVING YOU INTO THAT THAT CITY MANAGER ROLE AS AN INTERIM, RIGHT? WE HAD A MEETING IN EXECUTIVE TO DISCUSS THIS.

WE'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL ROUGHLY FOUR MONTHS, SO WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER EIGHT MONTHS FOR US TO HIT OUR MIDTERM YEAR.

WHAT WE DISCUSSED WAS THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING SOME METRICS AND SOME TASKS AND OBJECTIVES, SOME THINGS THAT ARE OBJECTIVE, I GUESS NOT SUBJECTIVE, BUT OBJECTIVE IN THE METRICS AND THE CRITERIA WHERE WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.

AND SO WHAT WE WANT IS WE WANT TO DO AN EVALUATION AT THAT ONE YEAR TERM OR MID-TERM AND TO BE ABLE TO TO HAVE AN INCENTIVE FOR YOU IN THE FORM OF A A PAYMENT FOR PERFORMANCE OR WHATEVER THAT THAT LOOKS LIKE LEGALLY.

SO WE'VE DISCUSSED A OPPORTUNITY TO, SET A SALARY FOR YOU THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS HERE IN PUBLIC AMONGST OURSELVES AND THEN TO TALK ABOUT THE INCENTIVE THAT WOULD BRING US TO THE CAP AND SO SHORT AND LONG OF IT.

YOU AND COUNCIL NEGOTIATED A, YOU KNOW, AN AGREED UPON AMOUNT OF $245,000 TO FUNCTION IN THIS ROLE. THAT'S A BASE SALARY AMOUNT THAT WE ARE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH FOR WHAT THIS ROLE REQUIRES AND WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.

WE WOULD HAVE A $50,000 POTENTIAL PAYOUT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT THAT WOULD BRING YOU ALL THE WAY UP TO $295,000 AT THE END OF THE EIGHT MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.

NOW THAT'S AN ANNUAL TOTAL, SO THAT'S NOT AN EIGHT MONTH TOTAL.

SO DON'T FORECAST THAT FORWARD.

BUT THAT IS A A $50,000 PAY INCENTIVE OVER THE EIGHT MONTH PERIOD OF TIME.

THEN WHAT WE WOULD THINK IS, IS WE SHOULD BE HEAD HUNTING AT THAT TIME.

WE SHOULD BE EITHER HAVING A COMMITTEE OF CITIZENS OR WE WOULD WE WOULD FOREGO THAT AND JUST WORK WITH CONSULTANTS AS COUNSEL, AND WE'D BE LOOKING FOR OUR NEXT CITY MANAGER.

AND SO IF WE IF WE FOUND OUR CITY MANAGER, THEN THEN WE'VE GOT HIM.

AND WE WANT TO KNOW BY BY GOING AND EXERCISING THAT AND LOOKING, THEN WE WOULD BE LOOKING FORWARD TO PERMANENT CONTRACT WITH YOU.

WE FEEL LIKE THOSE TWO AMOUNTS ARE OUT THERE.

THE POSITION NEEDS TO PAY WHAT IT NEEDS TO PAY IN ORDER TO WARRANT THAT POSITION.

WE ALSO KNOW MOVING FORWARD, WE NEED TO GIVE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM TO GROW.

[03:55:05]

AND THEN WE LIKE THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE OF A $50,000 STIPEND OR HOWEVER YOU WOULD YOU WOULD STATE THAT TO WHERE WE CAN HAVE SOME TASK OBJECTIVES. AND THESE METRICS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED.

AND ONCE WE GET THEM BACK TO COUNCIL, THEY'LL THEY'LL BE MADE PUBLIC.

AND SO WE'LL HAVE SOME REAL HARD LINES ON PUBLIC SAFETY, IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN AMARILLO CUSTOMER SERVICE, FOLLOW UPS, ATTENTION TO DETAIL, A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT YOU'LL BRING TO US.

SO I'VE KIND OF THROWN THAT OUT THERE IN ONE BIG BALL AND WE JUST ASK FOR COUNCIL TO ADD TO THAT OTHER THINGS THAT YOU TOOK AWAY FROM THE MEETING.

GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN.

NO, I THINK I THINK.

APPRECIATE YOU STEPPING UP TO THIS ROLE AND SERVING.

I MEAN, YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING IT KIND OF INFORMALLY, BUT GLAD TO TO FORMALIZE THIS AND KIND OF LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO SEE YOU LEADERSHIP FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, SIR.

YEAH. I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE ALREADY DONE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, COMMUNICATION AND IN THE DEPARTMENTS AND IN THE MANAGEMENT DEPARTMENT.

SO SAME WELCOME.

THANK YOU. I WOULD POINT OUT WE DID DISCUSS ALSO THIS IS JUST SALARY COMPARED TO A FULL TIME CITY MANAGER.

THERE'S NO EXTRA BENEFITS, RETIREMENT, ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS IT'S JUST A SALARY INCREASE MIGHT BE HELPFUL.

I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

I THINK OUR PREVIOUS CITY MANAGER HAD A HIGHER SALARY.

HE ALSO HAD SEVERAL BENEFITS THAT WERE INCLUDED FOR RETIREMENT MATCH AND AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING FROM A LIFE INSURANCE POLICY TO VEHICLE. AND SO WITH THIS IT'S SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN WHAT WE WHAT WE WERE PAYING THERE.

AND IT ALSO GIVES YOU A GOOD GROWTH TO WHERE YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SHOOT AT AND TO AIM FOR.

AND SO WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A HAPPY MEDIUM.

IT'LL GET US RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING WE DISCUSSED IN THE BACK WAS HOW INCREDIBLY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL WE ARE THAT WE HAVE A CITY MANAGER THAT'S REALLY COMPRISED OF FOUR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SO FROM FLOYD HARTMAN, RICH GAGNON, MISS LAURA STORRS AND ANDREW FREEMAN.

AND SO WE LOVE THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER.

THIS IS THE LEADERSHIP ROLE.

AND HE GETS TO LEAD. BUT WITHOUT THOSE OTHER PEOPLE AND THEN ALL THE DIRECTORS THAT ARE BELOW AND DEPARTMENT HEADS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THE GOOD TEAM.

THIS IS DISCUSSION FOR YOUR ONE SALARY, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY VERY PUBLIC, BUT IT'S COMPREHENSIVE OF THE ENTIRE TEAM.

AND THEN THE DIRECTION AT WHICH YOU'VE TAKEN TO TO WANT TO STEP UP AND LEAD.

AND SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S FAIR.

I THINK IT'S GOOD IT MOVES US FORWARD AND I THINK IT'S WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.

YES, SIR. WELL, GREAT JOB ON YOUR PRESENTATION.

WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING UP HERE.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, ANDREW.

THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. FREEMAN. OKAY.

WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 0912235 AS PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA.

SECOND, AND IF.

IF WE COULD GET YOU TO AMEND YOUR MOTION AND PUT THE SALARY AMOUNT THAT WE NEED TO FILL IN THE BLANK LINE IN THE BLANK LINE.

I DIDN'T SEE THE BLANK LINE. I DON'T SEE THE BLANK LINE.

HUH? OH, THERE IT IS.

YOU WANT TO READ IT ON THE RESOLUTION WHERE IT SAYS SHALL RECEIVE A SALARY OF BLANK? OKAY. OKAY.

SO START OVER.

YES, THAT MIGHT BE EASIEST.

OKAY. I MOVE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NUMBER 091223-5 WITH A SALARY OF $245,000. DO WE INCLUDE THE REST OF IT WITH IT? OKAY. AS PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA.

THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME.

SECOND. OKAY.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.

YES, SIR. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5 0 VOTE.

[8.T. CONSIDER AWARD - CONTRACT FOR NEW LED WALKING PATH, AREA SAFETY LIGHTING, AND LIGHTING CONTROL SYSTEMS FOR SAM HOUSTON PARK, SAN JACINTO PARK, AND MEDICAL CENTER PARK]

MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT T, THIS IS OUR LIGHTING AWARD.

WE HAVE MR. DANFORTH COMING FORWARD TO TALK US THROUGH THIS ONE.

AFTERNOON, SIR. MAYOR COUNCIL.

I BELIEVE YOU'VE GOT THE INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.

THIS WAS MORE OF A QUESTION OF FUNDING AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT OF FROM THAT PREVIOUS PRESENTATION.

QUESTIONS COUNCIL.

WELL, I THINK I THINK THE QUESTION THAT I HAD AT THE TIME.

WELL, I KNOW WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON ARPA TODAY, BUT AGAIN, THIS WAS THE FIRST THAT THIS COUNCIL HAD BEEN HEARING.

[04:00:05]

IT IS. WHY THIS VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE THAT COULD HAVE FUNDED.

SO I GUESS WE SAW IT TODAY.

WHAT ELSE? IT COULD FUNDED.

SO I GUESS MY THINKING WAS JUST HOW DID THIS RISE TO THE TOP OF THE PRIORITY LIST? WELL, A LOT OF IT, AS WAS PRESENTED EARLIER WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE BEING HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SECURITY ASPECTS IN THESE AREAS.

LIGHTING IS DEFINITELY ACCORDING TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ADVANTAGES.

PLUS, WE LOOKED AT DOING MODIFICATIONS OF THE LIGHTING DESIGN.

SO THE POLES ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO CARRY A CAMERA AND HAVE A POWER, ADDITIONAL POWER AT THE BASES OF THE POLES SO WE CAN HAVE REMOTE CAMERAS THERE THAT COULD BE STAND ALONE OR BE NETWORKED IN.

THE OTHER THING THAT WAS ON THIS LIGHTING FEATURE WAS THE FACT THAT IT IS DOWN LIGHTING.

IT'S NOT AREA LIGHTING.

SO IT LIGHTS SIMILAR TO THE BASEBALL FIELD WHERE YOU DON'T SEE LIGHT POLLUTION SPILLING OUT OVER INTO OTHER PROPERTIES.

WE WANTED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THAT, ESPECIALLY IN SAM HOUSTON ALSO THERE AT MEDI PARK.

WE HAD TO BE CONCERNED WITH THE LIGHTING THERE, NOT REFLECTING UP FOR HELICOPTER PATHS.

AND THEN SAN JACINTO IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THERE AS WELL.

SO WE FELT LIKE WITH GOING WITH THE MUSCO SYSTEM, WITH OUR ABILITY TO DO THE REMOTE CONTROLS AND THEN TO DO THE ADDITIONAL SECURITY STUFF, THAT IT WAS A MAJOR ADVANTAGE FOR THOSE THOSE THREE AREAS.

WELL, I GUESS AFTER THE PRESENTATION EARLIER, I MEAN, I KIND OF I MEAN, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT HOW THAT MONEY COULD BE USED AND LOOKING AT NOW, I MEAN, I LIKE THIS.

I KIND OF LIKE USING THE MONEY MORE OF SOMETHING.

I MEAN, SOME OF THOSE THINGS, YOU SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN THE MONEY'S GONE AND THERE'S NO RESIDUAL LONG TERM BENEFIT.

WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THIS AND THEN I THINK THE CAMERAS WERE IN THERE, I LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT HAS A LONG TERM BENEFIT.

SOME OF THOSE THINGS I GUESS ARPA COULD BE USED FOR.

IT GOES TO SOMEONE, BUT THEY SPEND IT AND THEN IT'S GONE, WHEREAS THIS.

SO I THINK I THINK SEEING WHAT ELSE COULD QUALIFY AND LOOKING AT THIS, I THINK I HAVE A KIND OF AN UNDERSTANDING, I GUESS, AND A HIGHER COMFORT LEVEL ON WHY THIS WOULD BE A PRIORITY.

YES, CORRECT. WITH THE MUSCO LIGHTING SYSTEM, THERE'S SOME HUGE ADVANTAGES THERE.

AND THEN WORKING WITH THE LOCAL CONTRACTOR, DAVID RAY, IN THESE PARKS, WE'RE COGNIZANT TOO.

SO MEANS AND METHODS. AS WE DO THIS JOB.

WE'RE DOING THIS MORE AS A BORING CONTRACT INSTEAD OF AN OPEN TRENCH CONTRACT JUST TO INCREASE THE SAFETY ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, GUYS? HEY, WE APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON IT.

AND I THINK THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT OF IT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST DEAL.

SO WE CAN WE CAN SEE WHY THAT MONEY IS GOING TO BE WELL SPENT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS.

WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION ON ITEM 8 T.

DID YOU ALL GET TIRED OF MAKING MOTIONS.

[LAUGHTER] YEAH.

LET'S GO. ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION I MOVE TO? OKAY. I MOVE TO MOTION.

UH, WE AWARD THE CONTRACT.

WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? KEEP GOING. NO, NO, I DON'T WANT TO JUMP IN ON YOU.

GO AHEAD. YOU ALREADY MADE THE MOTION.

WELL, I'M GOING TO SUBJECT BACK TO YOU.

YOU HURT HIS FEELINGS. HE'S NOT GOING TO DO IT NOW.

SO YOU'RE UP.

OH, MAN. I MOVE TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR ITEM NUMBER.

LET'S SEE HERE. WOULD IT BE THE AGENDA NUMBER? WOULD IT BE THE BY BOARD NUMBER? 8 T? OKAY.

SO IT'S NOT THE BY BOARD MOVE TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR ITEM NUMBER 8 T TO MUSCO SPORTS LIGHTING IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,216,931.

I'LL SECOND. SEE? WAS THAT NOW? WAS THAT SO HARD? I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THAT MOTION PASSES FIVE ZERO.

WE'RE MOVING ALONG HERE PRETTY SPEEDILY AT 8 U.

[8.U. CONSIDER – CHANGE ORDER NO. 3 FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF WESTERN STREET, WALLACE BLVD, HAGY BLVD, AND PORT LANE]

ITEM 8 U IS AN UPDATE FROM JACKSON ZAHARIA IF YOU'LL GO OVER THIS CHANGE ORDER FOR US, SIR.

SURE. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

COUNCIL. I'LL TRY AND GO QUICK.

YOU CAN INTERRUPT ME WITH QUESTIONS OR TELL ME TO STOP AT ANY POINT.

SO JUST JUST QUICK GETTING INTO THIS.

I GOT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW HOW TO RUN THIS.

OKAY. JUST QUICK GETTING INTO THIS.

[04:05:01]

JUST A QUICK CONTRACT BACKGROUND AND FACTS.

FIRST, MAKE THE CHANGE ORDER.

MAKE A LITTLE MORE SENSE.

THIS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WAS AWARDED BACK IN 2021.

CONTRACTOR WAS J. LEE MILLIGAN.

ORIGINAL CONTRACT AMOUNT WAS $10.4 MILLION, FUNDED FROM THE PROPOSITION ONE BOND FUNDS FROM VOTED ON BACK IN 2016.

CONSTRUCTION STARTED LATE IN 2021 WAS A FULL DEPTH REPLACEMENT OF WESTERN STREET FROM 49TH TO 34TH AND THEN THE WALLACE HAGI PORT CORRIDOR OUT BY THE HOSPITALS.

DURING THE PROJECT PREVIOUS CHANGE ORDER APPROVED BY COUNCIL, WE HAD ADDED A STORM DRAIN REPAIR ALONG TERRACE DRIVE FOR SOME COLLAPSED STORM DRAIN.

THAT HAPPENED DURING THE PROJECT ADJACENT TO THE PROJECT, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CONTRACTOR AND THE TRAFFIC CONTROL IN THE AREA.

A COUPLE OF PICTURES THERE OF WALLACE HAGI, PORT, WESTERN.

OKAY. SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS TO CONSIDER THIS CURRENT CHANGE ORDER.

WHICH INCLUDES RESURFACING OF TERRACE DRIVE AFTER THE REPLACEMENT OF THE STORM DRAIN, JUST KIND OF DUE TO THE TO THE UNKNOWN CONDITION OF THAT OF THAT ACTUAL SURFACE AND THAT PAVEMENT IN THAT LOCATION.

MODIFICATIONS TO THE TRAFFIC PLAN TO INCREASE SAFETY DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT THROUGHOUT DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT PROJECT AND SOME ADDITIONAL REPLACEMENT OF CURB AND GUTTER AND MEDIANS DUE TO EITHER POOR CONDITION OR SOME DRAINAGE CONCERNS WHILE WE WERE WORKING IN THE AREA.

AND THEN JUST SOME MINOR FINAL QUANTITY ADJUSTMENTS ON THAT CONTRACT, A TOTAL OF $238,000.

AND CHANGE. JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK THERE ALONG TERRACE AND WESTERN.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF THE OF THE CONTRACT ACCOUNTING ON THAT.

THE ORIGINAL BUDGET ESTIMATE OF 11.7 MILLION, THE ORIGINAL AWARD OF 10.4 PREVIOUS CHANGE ORDERS OF A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION, THE BULK OF THAT BEING THE DRAINAGE PORTION THAT WE ADDED THE CURRENT CHANGE ORDER FOR, FOR A REVISED TOTAL CONTRACT OF, OF THAT 12,000,749.

OF THAT $11 MILLION BEING THE STREET PORTION.

YOU CAN YOU CAN SEE THAT WHILE THE TOTAL CONTRACT IS CERTAINLY OVER BUDGET, THAT STREET PORTION WAS WITHIN OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET ESTIMATE. AND THEN ADDING THAT THAT PORTION OF TERRACE DRIVE FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF GETTING THAT DONE IN A TIMELY MANNER.

QUESTIONS ON THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL.

JUST TO SUMMARIZE, I MEAN, YOU HAD 11 SEVEN IN YOUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL, SO YOU'RE WORKING BUDGET WAS 11 SEVEN.

YOU'RE ROUGHLY A MILLION OVER THE WORKING BUDGET.

YOU ADDED $1.8 MILLION WORTH OF DRAINAGE THAT WE FOUND THAT WAS CONCEALED CONDITIONS WOULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF AT A DIFFERENT TIME.

WE'RE JUST THANKFUL YOU FOUND IT WHILE WE WERE DOING THE STREET PROJECT, NOT AFTER.

SO WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TEAR THE STREET UP AND THEN FIX IT.

AND SO AND YEAH, AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THAT WAS FUNDED THROUGH DRAINAGE REVENUES AND NOT THE TRANSPORTATION BOND FUNDS JUST FOR CLARITY.

SO WE'VE OFFSET THAT.

SO TECHNICALLY WE'RE STILL UNDER BUDGET ON THAT, THAT FUNDING SOURCE.

SO WE APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION AND BRINGING THAT BACK.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL ON ITEM EIGHT YOU.

I ALMOST HATE TO ASK FOR A MOTION.

I MOVE WE APPROVE ITEM 8 U WITH A CHANGE ORDER NUMBER THREE IN THE AMOUNT OF $238,828.52. I'LL SECOND.

OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES FIVE ZERO.

WE'RE ALMOST THERE. JUST TWO MORE.

[8.V. CONSIDER PURCHASE - 3.008 ACRE TRACT OF LAND IN THE NORTHERLY PORTION OF LOT 1A, BLOCK 1, OSLER ADDITION UNIT NO. 2, IN THE VICINITY OF QUAIL CREEK DRIVE AND SW 9TH AVENUE]

ITEM EIGHT. MR. FREEMAN, YOU'RE GOING TO FINISH OFF STRONG WITH A COUPLE OF REAL ESTATE ITEMS. OKAY, SO THIS FIRST ONE IS RELATED TO FIRE STATION 14.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR A GOOD YEAR TO TRY AND FIND A LOCATION FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE REACHED OUT TO MULTIPLE BROKERS AND LANDOWNERS AT THE BEGINNING, COULDN'T REALLY FIND A SPOT THAT WAS IN THE PRICE RANGE OR THAT WOULD WORK FOR OUR LOCATION, WHICH LED US TO TALKING WITH AMARILLO COLLEGE ABOUT THEIR SITE THERE JUST TO THE SOUTHEAST OF THE THE RED OUTLINE.

[04:10:02]

THEY WERE MORE INTERESTED IN A LEASING OPPORTUNITY, A LONG TERM LEASE.

WE PREFERRED THE OWNERSHIP OPTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT LED US TO THIS NEXT THREE ACRE TRACT.

THE BENEFIT OF WORKING WITH AC IS THAT BY THAT CONVERSATION, BEING OUT AND COVERED IN THE NEWS THAT WE HAD, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE CALL AND SAY, WE'VE GOT LAND FOR SALE IN CASE YOU WANT TO CONSIDER A BACKUP PLAN OR ANOTHER OPTION.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S LED US HERE.

THIS IS THE CIRCLE OR THE RADIUS, THE 1.5 MILE ISO CIRCLE AROUND THE PROPOSED STATION KIND OF SHOWS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE FILLING IN THESE THESE GAPS THAT WE HAVE NOW.

ALL THOSE BLUE DOTS ARE CALLS GREATER THAN FOUR MINUTES.

WE TRY AND KEEP IT BELOW THAT.

SO THIS IS GOING TO GREATLY IMPROVE OUR COVERAGE AREAS AND BE ABLE TO SERVE SOME OF THAT GROWTH AND SERVE OUR MEDICAL DISTRICT.

THAT'S A LARGE TAX BASE AND ASSET IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE WANT TO BE SURE AND PROTECT.

SO JUST A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS.

THE PURCHASE PRICE IS JUST OVER 437,000 PLUS CLOSING COSTS.

THE SELLER IS ADCAMA LLC, SO THEY CURRENTLY OWN ALL THAT LAND THAT'S OUTLINED AND TO THE SOUTH THAT HAS THE AMARILLO DIAGNOSTIC CLINIC LOCATED ON IT.

AND THEN WE HAVE A PROPOSED CLOSING DATE ON OR BEFORE OCTOBER 13TH.

AND THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO TO PROCEED TO DESIGN AND GETTING THIS PROJECT UNDERWAY THAT'S FUNDED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.

SO WE ARE READY TO GET MOVING ON DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND GET THAT THAT FIRE STATION BUILT.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS WAS ALSO UNDER WE WERE THINKING WE'D HAVE TO SPEND ABOUT 500,000 ACQUIRING LAND.

SO THIS CAME IN UNDER THE ACQUISITION ESTIMATIONS.

MR. FREEMAN, WOULD YOU CARE TO EXPLAIN ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS WHERE WE WERE LOOKING FOR THAT WE LOOKED FOR OTHER LAND OPPORTUNITIES.

WE HAD BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS OR AT LEAST CONVERSATIONS WITH AC.

THEY TEND TO BE FAIRLY LANDLOCKED IN THIS AREA AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING THEY COULD SELL.

SO CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH. SO WE WORKED WITH THEM A GOOD FOUR MONTHS, HAD A COUPLE OF MEETINGS WITH THEM.

THEY DID GET AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE WITH US, BUT IT WAS MORE GEARED TOWARD THE LONG TERM LEASE, NOT FOR SALE.

THE OTHER SITES WE LOOKED AT, WE REACHED OUT TO ONE WAS NOT INTERESTED IN SELLING.

WE REACHED OUT TO ANOTHER.

THAT WAS A UNIVERSITY SYSTEM.

AND THEY HAD A I THINK IT WAS A 20 ACRE SITE AND A BUILDING ON IT, JUST MUCH LARGER THAN WE NEED AND WOULD REQUIRE DEMOLITION OF EXISTING FACILITIES.

AND THEN ANOTHER SITE WAS JUST I THINK IT WAS ALMOST IN THE MILLION DOLLAR RANGE.

SO IT WAS WELL OUT OF OUR BUDGET FOR WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING TO PAY FOR THE LAND.

SO THAT'S WHY WE KEPT LOOKING FOR OTHER OPTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE ADDITIONAL EXPLANATION.

SURE. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS PARTICULAR LAND PURCHASE AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON STATION 14? SIR? NO. NOTHING.

OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S HARD WORK ON THIS.

YOU GUYS GOING OUT THERE AND FIGURING IT OUT.

WHAT WOULD YOU THINK WOULD BE THE EXPECTED TURNAROUND TIME FROM HERE MOVING FORWARD? IS THIS OKAY? ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL BRING THAT. NO, I'M KIDDING.

YOU CAN SIT BACK DOWN. WE'LL PUT THAT ON A DISCUSSION FOR ANOTHER DAY.

HE'S GOING TO BE MOVING FAST, THOUGH.

YEAH, WE WE'RE JUST.

WE'RE JUST MOTIVATING YOU.

WE DON'T EVEN OWN IT YET.

WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW YOU NEED TO HURRY.

YEP. OKAY.

WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM 8 V.

OKAY. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF.

CAN I JUST SAY THE LAND LISTED IN ITEM EIGHT B? I BELIEVE YOU CAN. GOOD ENOUGH.

OKAY. FROM ADCAMA LLC FOR THE PRICE OF $437,450, I HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND. SECOND. HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED.

THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A50 VOTE.

OKAY, WE'RE ON TO ITEM EIGHT.

[8.W. CONSIDER APPROVAL - COMMERCIAL CONTRACT TO SELL THE COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE PORTION OF THE AMARILLO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION PARKING GARAGE LOCATED AT 600 S. BUCHANAN]

W BRINGS US TO OUR LAST ITEM THAT COUNCILMAN SMITH HAS WAITED ALL NIGHT FOR.

SO WE ARE READY TO GO ON THIS ONE.

SO THIS IS TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THE PARKING STRUCTURE.

SO IT'S 22,169FT².

THAT DOES INCLUDE THE JOE TACO SPACE THAT'S FINISHED OUT AND THEN ALL THE REMAINDER, THAT STILL REQUIRES FINISH OUT, WHICH FACTORS INTO THE SALES PRICE.

THIS IS JUST THE CURRENT SITE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURE.

THE PARKING IS THERE IN THE CENTER.

YOU'VE GOT BUILDING TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE EAST.

JOE TACO IS TO THE NORTHEAST ON THAT SITE PLAN JUST TO COVER THE HIGHLIGHTS AND REALLY THE PROCESS.

SO WE WORKED WITH THE LGC.

WE HAD OUR BROKER LISTING AGREEMENT WAS WAS SET TO EXPIRE.

SO WE WERE OUT LOOKING FOR A NEW BROKER TO LIST THE PROPERTY.

WE INTERVIEWED MULTIPLE, GOT DIFFERENT IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS.

BUT THROUGH THAT PROCESS IS WHERE THE SUBCOMMITTEE THOUGHT, WELL, ONE OF THESE BROKERS ACTUALLY FOCUSES ON CONDOS AND WORKING IN COMMERCIAL CONDOS ACROSS

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TOWN. SO THEY HAD FAMILIARITY WITH IT AND THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY IF WE WERE GOING TO PURSUE CONDOING.

WE SHOULD PROBABLY WORK WITH SOMEONE THAT DOES THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.

SO WE REACHED OUT TO THEM DIRECTLY, WHICH IS LLANO GROUP LLC, JUST TO GAUGE THEIR INTEREST AND WHAT THEY'D BE WILLING TO DO.

AND THAT CAME BACK WITH A SALES PRICE OF 1.9 MILLION, WHICH IS REALLY A NUMBER THAT THE COMMITTEE WAS KIND OF GOING OFF OF AS WELL AS AS FAR AS COVERING THE DEBT THAT'S OWED ON THE ON THE BUILDING, WHICH IS TIRZ IS 500,000 THAT HELPED CONSTRUCT IT.

THERE'S ALSO 400,000 TO THE CITY GENERAL FUND THAT HELPED TO OPERATE IT.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER WOULD GO TO FUND THE PARKING GARAGE, WHICH HAS OUTSTANDING DEBT.

SO IT COULD ACTUALLY PAY TO INCREASE THE DEBT SERVICE OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.

BUT THE $85.70 SQUARE FOOT ALSO REFLECTED THAT THIS IS WITHOUT FINISH OUT.

SO SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME IN THERE AND PUT THE MONEY IN.

IT WAS EITHER GOING TO BE THE LGC AND THE CITY OR THE FUTURE TENANT OR IN THIS CASE LLANO GROUP.

SO THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT IN PRICE BASED ON ON THAT REALITY EARNEST MONEY OF 5000, WHICH IS NONREFUNDABLE MAINLY BECAUSE DURING THE FEASIBILITY PERIOD WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SURVEY IT AND MAKE SURE WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE CONDO LINES WILL BE AND THE WAY THE FEASIBILITY AND THE CLOSING PERIOD, WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT WITHOUT LOCKING IN THE CONTRACT.

SO THEY AGREED TO THAT.

THE FEASIBILITY PERIOD WILL BE FOR 90 DAYS.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE US THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER AND THEN WE'D HAVE A CLOSED DATE 45 DAYS AFTER THAT OR END OF JANUARY 2024.

THE EXTENDED TIME PERIOD IS REALLY TO FINALIZE THOSE CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION PLATS AND ALL THE ASSOCIATION DOCUMENTS.

PART OF THAT PROCESS IS ALSO GOING TO BE FINE TUNING WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS WILL BE AS FAR AS WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT, THERE'S A WIDE RANGE OF DIFFERENT USES THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT LIKE TO SEE IN THAT FACILITY.

SO WE WILL WORK TO FINALIZE ALL OF THAT AHEAD OF CLOSING.

AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOT TO WORK OUT THE LEASE WITH THE LGC FOR THE 75 YEAR TERM FOR PARKING.

SO THEY'LL GET 90 SPACES THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THEIR TENANTS OR FUTURE CONDO OWNERS TO HAVE DEDICATED PARKING SPACE IN THE GARAGE.

AND THEN THAT WOULD ALSO HAVE TWO FIVE YEAR TERM EXTENSIONS ALONG WITH IT.

SOME OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE RECEIVED WAS, AS FAR AS LISTING IT GOING WITH THE BROKER, THOSE WERE ALL DISCUSSED WITH COUNCIL, WITH LGC AND IS WITH STAFF TIRZ ZONES, WHICH DOWNTOWN IS HAS SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER YOU HAVE TO BID IT OUT, WHETHER YOU HAVE TO USE A BROKER.

WE CAN ACTUALLY DO ONE ON ONE AGREEMENTS TO GET THE BEST ARRANGEMENT.

FOR THE CITY. THAT'S MEANT BECAUSE WE HAVE A FINAL PROJECT PLAN FOR TIRZ.

WE HAVE CERTAIN GOALS, CERTAIN OBJECTIVES, AND WILLING TO WORK TO MAKE SURE WE GET THE BEST PRODUCT TO MEET THE GOALS OF DOWNTOWN VERSUS JUST SENDING IT OUT TO BID.

TAKING THE HIGHEST OFFER AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE.

THIS WAS VERY UNIQUE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A CONDO, SOMEONE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH LONG TERM BECAUSE WE'VE GOT THE PARKING RIGHT NEXT DOOR THAT WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO FIND SOMEBODY THAT WE COULD FORM A GOOD RELATIONSHIP LONG TERM TO TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SUCCESSFUL.

SO HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.

WE MAY HAVE A FEW.

SO COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS GUY.

SO JUST SO THIS WORD.

SO THE TERM CONDOMINIUM ASSOCIATION.

WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S THAT DEFINITION MEAN? SO THAT IS YOU USUALLY HEAR IT IN THE RESIDENTIAL FORM WHERE IT'S ONE BUILDING AND PEOPLE OWN THEIR SPACE.

IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT BUT FOR COMMERCIAL.

SO WE WILL INITIALLY MAKE THE EXTERIOR BOX AND THEN WHEN LANO GROUP IS READY TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THE TENANT OR TO SELL IT, THEY WILL ACTUALLY DO THE PARTITIONS IN BETWEEN.

AND THAT SPACE, IF IT'S SOLD AS A CONDO, WILL BE OWNED BY THAT THAT CONDOMINIUM OWNER, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE PERCENTAGES WHERE THEY'LL VOTE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES.

THEY'LL HAVE COMMON AREA MAINTENANCE COSTS THAT WILL BE ALL FACTORED INTO THOSE DOCUMENTS.

AND THEN YOU MENTIONED KIND OF THE FUTURE USES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE TYPE OF WILL THAT COME WITH A WILL ANOTHER AGREEMENT COME BACK TO US FOR APPROVAL? NOT NECESSARILY UNLESS YOU ALL WANT ME TO BRING THAT BACK SO YOU ALL CAN REVIEW IT.

IT WOULD BE JUST SOMETHING.

WE'D WORK WITH THEM BEFORE CLOSING.

WE WERE HAPPY TO BRING IT BACK AS WE GO ALONG.

OR I CAN JUST KEEP YOU ALL UP TO DATE ONE ON ONE, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MISSING ANYTHING.

BUT TECHNICALLY, IT WOULDN'T NEED TO COME BACK.

OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, I MEAN AND I THINK I EXPRESSED TO YOU MY CONCERN IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE THINKING 2 OR 3 STEPS DOWN THE ROAD THAT, I MEAN, THAT WE DON'T YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING TIGHTENED UP WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE USED FOR A PRODUCTIVE PURPOSE FOR DOWNTOWN IN THAT AREA.

SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I MEAN, I GUESS WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT IF WE WANT TO READDRESS IT OR BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT AT SOME POINT BEFORE WE FINALLY

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CLOSE THE DEAL TO SELL IT, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S IT'S MORE OF A PROTECTION FOR THIS WHOLE AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT TYPE OF BUSINESSES THERE.

YEAH. YOU KNOW, LOOKING IN THE PAST, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TEARS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, LIKE WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.

HAVE WE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WHERE WE HAVEN'T PUT IT OUT FOR BID, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEWSPAPER AND EVERYTHING ELSE SO THAT IT'S FOR SALE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER REINVESTMENT ZONES AND THEN WE'VE ALSO GOTTEN THE BROKER ROUTE TYPICALLY.

SO WE DON'T USE THE APPRAISAL ROUTE PER SE OR THE BIDDING.

YOU HIRE A BROKER, THEY LIST IT AND YOU JUST TAKE THE HIGHEST OFFER.

SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW YOU YOU TEST THE MARKET MARKETABILITY ON IT.

SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT ROUTES THAT YOU CAN YOU CAN GO.

AND YOU MENTIONED SO THIS 1.9 MILLION PART OF THAT WILL GO TO PAY OFF DEBT.

YES. SO TERES HAS AN OUTSTANDING 500,000 AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY A NEGOTIATED REDUCTION BECAUSE IT WAS MORE AROUND 2 MILLION.

BUT THEY RENEGOTIATED AND BASED ON IF THEY SOLD IT OR RENTED IT OUT, IT WOULD DROP IT DOWN AND WAIVE THE MAJORITY OF IT.

SO THERE'S 500,000 REMAINING IN THERE AND THEN APPROXIMATELY 400,000 TO THE CITY.

YEAH. AND SO HOW ARE WE ON SCHEDULE FOR PAYING OFF THE DEBT ON THE PARKING GARAGE? I WILL LET LAURA TOUCH ON THE PARKING GARAGE DEBT.

WE ARE A LITTLE BEHIND SCHEDULE GETTING UP TO THE FULL PAYMENT, BUT THIS MILLION APPROXIMATE MILLION WILL GET US ABOUT THREE YEARS OF FULL COST.

THAT WOULD GIVE US A TIME TO SEE THE THE SPACE BUILT OUT TO INCREASE THE TRAFFIC.

ANYTHING TO ADD, LAURA? AND AS A REMINDER, WE TALKED DURING BUDGET.

THE OUTSTANDING BONDS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PARKING GARAGE ARE ONLY PARTIALLY FUNDED OR ONLY PARTIALLY PLANNED TO BE FUNDED BY WHAT LGC IS BRINGING IN THROUGH THOSE OPERATING REVENUES.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE THE INITIAL PLAN OF THEIR PARTICIPATION ON THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE THE TRAFFIC OR THE VOLUME AT THE PARKING GARAGE.

SO, YES, THIS SALE WOULD HELP GET THEM BETTER IN LINE FOR THE NEXT YEARS.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS IT RUNS OUT AT SOME POINT.

BUT HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD ALLOW TIME FOR THE SPACE TO GET DEVELOPED AND AS ANDREW MENTIONED, TO GET MORE TRAFFIC INTO THAT PARKING GARAGE AND HELP IT START CASH FLOWING BETTER TO GET THEM BACK IN LINE WITH THOSE SCHEDULED PAYMENTS.

OTHERWISE, THEN WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THE CITY IS HAVING TO FUND MORE OF THOSE DEBT PAYMENTS WITH THE CITY'S PORTION OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAXES. AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN BUDGET, THOSE ARE BEING STRETCHED THIN FROM MULTIPLE ANGLES AT THIS POINT.

BUT THEN I GUESS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS AGREEMENT, THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO.

SO THIS INCLUDES 90 PARKING SPACES OF WHICH WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING REVENUE FOR.

I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING IT OUT OF THIS 1.9 MILLION.

SO THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN THINGS THERE THAT ARE GOING TO BRING IN MORE THAN THAT AMOUNT.

THAT'S THAT WOULD BE THE HOPE.

YEAH. AND THEN SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO TRY AND FILL THIS FOR FIVE YEARS.

WE DID HAVE COVID IN BETWEEN THERE.

WE'VE GOT ONE, WE THINK PUTTING IT BACK IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR HANDS, THEY'VE THEY'VE GOT MORE INTEREST IN GETTING IT FILLED.

GRANT WE WERE TRYING VERY HARD TO GET IT FILLED, BUT THEY'VE GOT MONEY ON THE LINE, PROFIT THAT THEY ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THAT THEY WANT TO GET THOSE SPOTS FILLED.

SO IF WE COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIKE MAYBE BECAUSE HOWARD SMITH AND I BOTH SIT ON THE LGC TOGETHER, SO WE PROBABLY HAVE THE LONGEST RUN OF OF THIS. AND AND SO I MEAN, I'M SAYING SEVEN YEARS, BUT MAYBE IT'S ONLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, LISTED FOR FIVE.

EITHER WAY. IT'S A IT'S A LONG TIME TO HAVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S SITTING OUT THERE THAT'S NOT ON THE TAX ROLLS.

SO ONE THING THAT I WOULD BRING TO THIS COUNCIL, WHEN YOU SELL THIS FOR $2 MILLION, THAT PROPERTY COMES ONTO THE TAX ROLL AND THEY START PAYING TAXES ON IT.

RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT DOING ANYTHING.

THE CONDO REGIME, HONESTLY, I'LL TAKE THE BLAME FOR THAT.

THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF MY IDEA IN THE WAY OF OF WE'VE WE KICKED THIS THING ALL THE WAY AROUND AND COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY THAT COULD SAY, YES, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO CHANGE IN ORDER TO LEASE THIS FACILITY.

WE TALKED ABOUT LOWERING OUR LEASE RATE.

WE TALKED ABOUT DOING FINISH OUT.

WE TALKED ABOUT DOING A MOCK UP SAMPLE BECAUSE THIS BUILDING DOESN'T HAVE A CONCRETE SLAB INSIDE OF IT.

BOTTOM LINE, WE COULDN'T FIND ANYBODY IN THE REAL ESTATE INDUSTRY THAT SAID, WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE HEADING YOUR WAY THAT WANT TO RENT THIS PROPERTY.

SO THE IDEA WAS WAS PROPOSED THAT, WELL, MAYBE IF WE CAN'T LEASE IT, WE CAN SELL IT.

AND I KNOW IN MY INDUSTRY IT'S HARD TO BUILD YOU A PROPERTY FOR LESS THAN $1 MILLION.

IT'S COMMERCIAL TIME.

WE BUY THE LAND AND GO PUT A 3 OR 4000 SQUARE FOOT STANDALONE BUILDING.

IT'S $1.5 MILLION OR MORE WITH PARKING LOT.

SO HERE, IF YOU WERE TO BUY 2000FT², YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOU'RE PAYING 300, 400 OR $500,000 DEPENDING

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ON YOUR FINISH OUT.

SO YOU'RE YOU'RE MARKETABILITY IS IS WAY LESS.

SO WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF, WELL, LET'S PARCEL THIS UP INTO A CONDOMINIUM REGIME SO THAT THEN WE HAVE MARKETABILITY BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS NOT DOING WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO. WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO DO IS TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.

IT'S INTENDED TO TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE VENDORS THAT ARE IN THERE AND THEY'RE SELLING T SHIRTS OR BEER OR WHATEVER, IT'S PAYING A SALES TAX TO THE CITY AND IT'S HELPING TO GROW THAT ECONOMIC INCENTIVE.

DOWNTOWN TEARS SITS IN THAT THAT SAME VENUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY THEY LOAN THE MONEY TO TRY TO GET THIS THING GOING.

AND WE HAVE AN AMOUNT OF DEBT THERE.

SO LET ME JUST TELL YOU A FEW CRITICISMS THAT I'VE TAKEN.

LIKE ANY PERSON THAT EVER HAD A HOUSE THAT WAS FOR SALE THAT YOU FIXED UP AND YOU TRIED TO SELL IT FOR YEARS AND NONE OF YOUR FRIENDS CARED TO EVEN COME LOOK AT IT, WELL, THEN YOU SOLD IT.

AND LIKE THREE OF YOUR FRIENDS SAID, HEY, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME YOU HAD THAT OUT ABOUT YOU? I THAT WAS A DEAL.

I WOULD HAVE PAID THIS OR THAT.

I NOW HAVE TEXT MESSAGES FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE MY FRIENDS AND THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE AND THEY'RE MY NEIGHBORS AND I CAN'T SELL IT TO YOU.

I CAN'T GO OUT FROM THE LGC AND GO AND MARKET ALL MY FRIENDS.

OTHERWISE IT IS THE BAD DEAL.

THEN IT REALLY IS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, SELF DEALING THING WHERE I'M NOW MIXED UP IN A REAL ESTATE DEAL DOWNTOWN AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL OR REPRESENTATIVE. AND SO I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.

I DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY WE HAD IT FOR SALE AND WE LET STAFF GO AND TELL EVERYBODY.

NOW OUR REALTOR WENT AND TALKED TO EVERYONE THAT HE HAD ON HIS LIST AND HE GOT NOBODY THAT CAME BACK THAT SAID THEY WANTED TO BUY THE ENTIRE THING.

AND THEN WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, LET'S LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT REALTOR.

AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S SEE WHO IS IN THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO HELP US MARKET IT.

AND SO LLANO IS THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS PRETTY SUCCESSFULLY OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, TECHNICALLY, THERE ARE COMPETITORS.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, BUT I ALSO KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO SELL THESE PROPERTIES FOR MORE THAN $250 A SQUARE FOOT.

AND YOUR INTERIOR FINISH OUT ON THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE 100 A FOOT BY THE TIME YOU FIGURE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE GOT IN THERE, YOU'VE GOT NO HEATING AND AIR.

IT'S A COLD, DARK SHELL.

THERE'S NO SLAB.

SO IT LOOKS PRETTY GOOD ON THE FRONT END.

BUT HONESTLY, IT'S STILL FAIRLY TIGHT.

I MEAN, WE WANT OUR INVESTOR AND AND OUR BUYER HERE, THE GUY WHO'S INVESTING DOWNTOWN WITH US TO DO WELL.

BUT AT AN AVERAGE OF $250 A SQUARE FOOT SALE PRICE IF HE'S PAYING 8690 AND HE PUTS 100 IN IT, THEN HE'S GOT HIS MARGIN IN THERE LIKE HE NEEDS IT TO BE TO HANDLE EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND THEN HE COULD LEASE THEM OR HE COULD KEEP THEM.

UM. THE ONLY REASON I GO ALL THE WAY DOWN THAT ROAD IS JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD CLAUDETTE HERE, WE'VE HAD MIKE HERE.

WE'RE ALREADY DEALING WITH THE THE INSINUATION OF, HEY, MAN, YOU KNOW WHO'S MAKING MONEY ON THIS DEAL? WELL, IF SOMEBODY CAN MAKE MONEY ON THIS DEAL OVER THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, LIKE, PLEASE SHOW ME, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE LIKE, I'M I'M SITTING THERE WITH HOWARD AND WE'RE LIKE, HOW DO WE GET THIS? HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THIS? THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.

THIS IS NOT WHAT THE LGC WAS SET UP TO DO.

THIS IS NOT WHERE AND MAYBE MORE ON THE LGC SIDE, BUT THIS IS NOT WHERE THIS COUNCIL IS SET UP FOR.

AND SO I DIDN'T CALL ANYBODY.

I DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT.

WE GOT AN OFFER.

AND THEN THE LGC IS RECOMMENDING TAKING THIS OFFER.

I DON'T KNOW THOUGH, FOR THIS COUNCIL.

DO YOU GUYS WANT TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THAT AND PUT THIS THING OUT? AND NOW WE CAN JUST HAVE EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO PAY US TWO AND A HALF OR 3 MILLION OR $4 MILLION COME AND MAKE THEIR OFFER BECAUSE LIKE WE COULDN'T FIND IT.

AND WE'VE WORKED MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS TO FIND SOMEBODY.

AND SO IF THAT'S LEGITIMATE, I DON'T WANT TO SHORTCHANGE MY TAXPAYER AT ALL ON THIS.

BUT THIS THING HAS A MARKETABILITY ONCE IT'S FULL AND IT DOES WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO.

AND I'M NOT TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON THE SALE PRICE SO MUCH WITH THE INVESTOR DOWNTOWN TO WHERE HE'S NOT SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THE ULTIMATE LOSS IN THIS IS THAT WE GET THIS THING SOLD AND IT DOESN'T GET ALL THE WAY FULL AND THE MARKET DOESN'T SUSTAIN IT.

AND THEN WE HAVE THAT ITEM SITTING ACROSS OUR STREET WITH, YOU KNOW, IT'S VACANT.

SO WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL IN HOW WE SELL IT IS PROBABLY WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO I WOULD JUST THROW THAT QUESTION OUT THERE.

IS ANYBODY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT STAFF HAS DONE THIS DEAL AND THAT IT DID SOMEWHAT FALL IN THEIR LAP WITH THIS PARTICULAR BUYER AND

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THAT WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH A REAL ESTATE BROKER AND PUTTING IT UP FOR 90 DAYS AND TAKING THE HIGHEST BIDDER.

NOW WE'RE NOW WE'RE NOT USING A BROKER, SO WE'RE SAVING THOSE FEES AS WELL.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

ANYBODY UNCOMFORTABLE? MR. SMITH, WE MADE YOU WAIT ALL DAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO TO THIS? WHAT DID YOU COME UP HERE TO SAY? I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.

YEAH. SAY IT IN THE MICROPHONE.

YOU DID. YOU DID A GOOD JOB EXPLAINING IT.

WE AS MAYOR SAID, WE WORKED ON THIS FOR MONTHS.

THE PREVIOUS BROKER TRIED TO LEASE.

IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

WE DID. JOE TACOS, ONE LEASE AND NOTHING ELSE.

AND IT CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF THE CONDO WHERE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY SOME PEOPLE RATHER BUY THAN LEASE. AND SO.

WE GOT THAT CONDO ORGANIZATION SET UP.

AS I ALREADY SAID EARLIER, 4 OR 5 HOURS AGO, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO DO IT.

OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANYTHING FOR MR. SMITH.

HE'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE LGC FOR A WHILE AND WORKED THROUGH ALL THIS.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO GO JUST ANOTHER STEP FORWARD IN THE WAY OF.

LGC ENTERED INTO A NEGOTIATION WITH LLANO GROUP.

THEY BROUGHT AN OFFER.

LGC NEGOTIATED IT OFFER STANCE AND HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED BY THE LGC.

YES, BUT THIS BODY COULD CHOOSE TO NOT ACCEPT THAT OFFER AND GO OUT AND LOOK FOR A BETTER OFFER.

RIGHT. SO THE LGC AUTHORITY WAS MORE TO LEASE IT AND OPERATE IT, BUT TO SELL IT HAD TO COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

RIGHT. AND FULL AUTHORITY.

SO OUR RISK MOVING FORWARD WOULD LET'S SAY WE COULD SELL IT FOR 2.4, 2.5 MILLION TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

AND NOW WE'VE GOT ALL OF THE MARKETING THAT WE CAN HAVE AS SOON AS EVERYBODY WATCHES THE VIDEO AND SHARES IT ONLINE.

RIGHT. AND SO, LIKE, MAYBE WE COULD GET ANOTHER 3 OR $400,000 EVEN IF YOU GOT THAT.

BUT WHEN YOU GET INSIDE THE SPACE, THE CEILINGS ARE REALLY TALL.

THE STEEL FRAME IS EXPOSED.

ALL YOUR FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM HAS TO BE PUT IN.

YOUR ELECTRICAL IS A MILE AND A HALF AWAY.

IT FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT QUITE THAT FAR JERRY.

[LAUGHTER] BUT I DID THE JOE TACO RENOVATION INSIDE OF THERE, AND WHEN WE DID THAT SPACE, I MEAN, THAT WAS BACK WHEN THINGS WERE SOMEWHAT MORE AFFORDABLE.

I MEAN, WE PROBABLY SPENT $160 A SQUARE FOOT JUST ON FINISH OUT.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE STRUCTURE IS.

AND SO, LIKE, I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M UNDERSELLING IT TO AN INDIVIDUAL.

BUT MY LOYALTY IS TO THE TAXPAYER AND TAXPAYER MONIES THAT HAVE PAID FOR THIS BUILDING.

AND IF WE CAN GET MORE FOR IT, I'M WILLING TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.

I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK AND START OVER AFTER WE'VE DONE THIS FOR THE LAST YEAR TO TRY TO DRAW THIS UP.

AND THE THING ABOUT IT WAS WE WERE GOING TO MARKET IT AT 100 A SQUARE FOOT AND TRY TO SELL 2 TO 3000 SQUARE FOOT SPACES.

AND OUR BIGGEST RISK WAS, WELL, WHAT IF YOU SELL ALL BUT 5000FT²? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH THAT? AND SO TO HAVE ONE CUSTOMER COME IN AND BUY ALL OF IT AT A REDUCED PRICE, PUT IT ON THE TAX ROLLS, IMMEDIATELY, BE ABLE TO BRING ALL THEIR CAPITAL TO IT SO THAT I'M NOT COMING TO THIS COUNCIL SAYING, HEY, WE NEED SOME MORE MONEY, WE NEED A COUPLE OF MILLION DOLLARS TO GO DO FINISH OUTS OVER THERE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. IF WE DO GET LEASES, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY THE THE TI THE TENANT IMPROVEMENT NECESSARILY, DEPENDING ON WHO SHOWS UP.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.

AND THEN THE PARKING GARAGE IS TRYING TO MAKE MONEY ON PARKING CARS AND SPACES.

SO I'M JUST DEFENDING MY POSITION HERE A LITTLE BIT BY OVERSTATING IT AND TALKING THROUGH IT.

A LOT OF TIMES THESE THINGS LOOK AND SOUND REAL GOOD ON THE FRONT END, BUT WHEN I SAY, HEY, BRING ME A CASHIER'S CHECK FOR $2.1 MILLION, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'RE GOING TO BRING ME THAT AND THEN YOU CAN BE UPSET, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I COULDN'T OFFER IT TO YOU BEFOREHAND.

SO RIGHT NOW I'M JUST KIND OF.

TREADING WATER OUT HERE, TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING OUT IN THE IN THE OPEN.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.

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I JUST APOLOGIZE TO ALL MY FRIENDS.

I CAN'T TELL YOU ABOUT IT. MAYBE IT'S A GREAT DEAL.

I CAN'T CALL YOU AND TELL YOU IT'S HERE, YOU KNOW? AND STAFF REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY THAT THEY KNEW.

SO SAYING ALL THAT TO SAY THIS.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS ON THIS ITEM? I MEAN, I THINK TO ME, THE POSITIVES I SEE OUT OF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY AND I'M A BELIEVER THAT PRIVATE SECTOR CAN DO THINGS A LOT BETTER THAN PUBLIC SECTOR CAN.

AND APPARENTLY REAL ESTATE IS ONE OF THEM.

AND BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOTIVATED.

NUMBER TWO, IT PUTS IT BACK INTO, YOU KNOW, 22,169FT² OF TAXABLE PROPERTY TAX THAT WILL COME BACK ON ON THE ROLLS, WHICH WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT.

SO THAT'S YOU HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THE MORE WE GET THAT THAT ENERGIZED THAT AREA SALES TAX AS WELL.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT DOWNTOWN REDEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR ON A CERTAIN TIMELINE.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE AND IT DOESN'T WORK ON YOUR TIMELINE AND LOTS OF THINGS.

AND THIS DID NOT WORK ON THE TIMELINE.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO.

IT'S JUST YOU JUST HAVE TO USE THE TIMELINE THAT THAT YOU ACCEPT.

BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THIS OVERALL, I THINK I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF POSITIVES TO THIS AND I THINK IT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO GO AS WELL.

YES, SIR. MR. SMITH.

COULD I MAKE ONE MORE COMMENT? SURE. WHEN WE WERE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER BROKER, WE HAD FOUR COMPANIES COME AND WANT TO BE INTERVIEWED.

WE INTERVIEWED ALL.

ALL FOUR AND.

THERE'S OVER A THOUSAND REALTORS IN THE AMARILLO ASSOCIATION.

REALTORS. LLANO, I SORT OF KNEW THEM, BUT DIDN'T KNOW THEM VERY WELL.

BUT I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE INTERVIEW.

THEY'VE DONE THIS SORT OF THING.

THEY WORK WITH CONDOS.

AND I THINK IF ANYBODY CAN DO IT, THEY'LL HAVE THE BEST CHANCE OF GETTING IT.

FILLED UP. WELL, I AGREE.

THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE YOU HANGING OUT.

ANYTHING FROM THIS SIDE OF THE COUNCIL? OKAY. OKAY.

NO. ALL RIGHT.

I'D ASK FOR A MOTION LAST MOTION OF THE DAY.

I MEAN, I'LL ASK OUT THERE IF I NEED TO KNOW.

I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE ON THIS PAGE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO READ.

WHEN? SEE, THIS CITY COUNCIL THING IS NOT AS EASY AS IT'S MADE OUT TO BE.

SO I WOULD MOVE TO APPROVE THE SALE OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE IN ITEM EIGHT W AND THE AMOUNT OF $1.9 MILLION.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DO I HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS LAST ITEM.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE, AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES.

I JUST NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND WE'LL GO HOME.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SECOND. I GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND.

APPRECIATE EVERYONE BEING HERE TODAY.

YOU'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.

OH, THAT'S A LONG ONE, MAN.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.