Jun 28, 2022 City Council Regular Meeting

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HERE'S THE THING ABOUT INNOVATION.

IT'S NOT A DESTINATION YOU GET TO OR A BOX YOU CAN CHECK.

IT'S A JOURNEY.

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THIS TEN MONTH TRAINING PROGRAM HELPS CITIES LEARN HOW TO ADOPT DESIGN BASED INNOVATION TECHNIQUES THAT ENGAGE RESIDENTS IN TESTING, ADAPTING AND SCALING CREATIVE IDEAS WITH LASTING IMPACT.

WE WANT TO CREATE SOLUTIONS THAT WORK FOR EVERYONE.

THE CITY OF AMARILLO INNOVATION TEAM INCLUDES 11 CROSS DEPARTMENTAL CITY STAFF, ALL COMMITTED TO ACTIVE AND MEANINGFUL PARTICIPATION THROUGH THE ENTIRE PROGRAM.

IT BEGINS BY OUTLINING THE FIVE MINDSETS THAT A PERSON MUST CONSIDER WHEN APPROACHING A PROBLEM FROM AN INNOVATIVE PERSPECTIVE.

THOSE MINDSETS ARE IMPACT DRIVEN, CREATIVE PEOPLE CENTERED, ITERATIVE AND COLLABORATIVE.

THE FIRST OF THREE PHASES IS THE UNDERSTANDING PHASE.

DURING THIS PART OF THE PROGRAM, WE LEARN HOW TO FRAME THE PROBLEM AND THEN CONDUCT AND EVALUATE RESEARCH UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO REFRAME THE PROBLEM AND REALLY LOCK DOWN OUR GOALS. THE SECOND PHASE IS TO GENERATE PHASE.

THIS IS THE PHASE THAT OUR TEAM IS ABOUT TO ENTER IN AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT DOING THIS PHASE. WE'LL LEARN TO IDEATE AND PROTOTYPE POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS AND THEN TEST AND REFINE THEM UNTIL WE'RE READY TO PILOT THOSE IDEAS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THAT LEADS US TO THE DELIVER PHASE.

THE THIRD PHASE IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY TEST OUT OUR SOLUTIONS AND TO TRACK THE PROGRESS AND MEASURE THE IMPACTS OF OUR PROGRAMS. AFTER OUR TEAM WAS FORMED, WE HAD TO IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM OF CHOICE FOR OUR INNOVATION TRACK. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO LOOK TOO HARD.

ILLEGAL DUMPING IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS AFFECTED THE CITY OF AMARILLO FOR DECADES, WITH IMPACTS THAT RIPPLE THROUGH EVERY CORNER OF THE CITY.

TODAY, WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH DONNIE.

SO I'M DONNIE HOOPER. I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE ILLEGAL DUMPING? YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES WITH ILLEGAL DUMPING, BUT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT ILLEGAL DUMPING CAUSES IS ILLEGAL DUMPING.

YOU HAVE SOMEWHERE WHERE THERE'S AN ILLEGAL DUMPING SITE.

IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO GENERATE MORE.

MORE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE THAT.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, OH, IT'S OKAY TO PUT IT THERE.

AND SO IT'S JUST THIS REDUNDANT PROBLEM THAT GENERATES OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

AFTER ALL, IT'S EASY TO SEE WHY ILLEGAL DUMPING IS A PROBLEM FOR THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. BUT WE WANTED TO KNOW WHY IT WAS A PROBLEM FOR THE COMMUNITY.

HOW DOES IT AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORS? IT WAS TIME TO PROCEED ONTO THE NEXT MAJOR STEP IN UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM, WHICH IS

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WE CONDUCTED DOZENS OF INTERVIEWS WITH PEOPLE REPRESENTING EACH OF THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS. WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO LEAN IN TO UNDERSTANDING HOW COMMUNITY MEMBERS EXPERIENCE CHALLENGES RELATED TO ILLEGAL DUMPING, AS THEY ARE THE REAL LIFE EXPERTS ON THE DAY TO DAY IMPACT OF THAT PROBLEM.

WE NEEDED TO INTERACT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WITH BUSINESS OWNERS AND WITH NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAD AFFECTED. THE INTERVIEWS WERE EXTREMELY HELPFUL TO US AND CHALLENGED MANY OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS. WE TOOK ALL THE DATA WE COLLECTED AND WE BEGAN TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE WITH ALL THE INITIAL RESEARCH THAT WAS CONDUCTED BY ALL THE PARTICIPANTS.

WE GATHERED ALL THAT INFORMATION INTO ONE AREA AND THEN FROM THERE WE IDENTIFIED TRENDS.

THEN WE NARROWED THOSE DOWN INTO MORE SPECIFIC CATEGORIES SO WE COULD START TO IDENTIFY CORE CORE CONTRIBUTORS OR SOME OF THE CORE CHALLENGES WITH THE ILLEGAL DUMPING THAT LED US INTO CREATING OUR FIVE CORE INSIGHTS, WHICH ARE LEADING OUR EFFORTS AT THIS POINT.

OUR FIRST INSIGHT WAS CITY COLLECTION OPERATIONS NEED CONSISTENT, CLEAR COMMUNICATION.

SOLID WASTE POLICIES ARE NOT ALWAYS CONSISTENTLY IMPLEMENTED AND COMMUNICATED.

COMMUNICATION BARRIERS DISCOURAGE CITIZENS AND PERPETUATE MISTRUST.

OUR SECOND INSIGHT IS SOME PROPERTY OWNERS PRIORITIZE ECONOMICS OVER LONG TERM COMMUNITY BUILDING. LANDLORDS RUN THEIR BUSINESS TO GET AN INCOME, AND THERE'S OFTENTIMES NO MECHANISM TO INCENTIVIZE LANDLORDS TO DO MORE THAN THE MINIMUM.

SO INSIGHT THREE AND FOUR ARE REALLY SIMILAR.

HIGH RENTER TURNOVER IS A BARRIER IN FORMING TRUE COMMUNITY.

THE HIGH DEGREE OF TURNOVER IN SAN JACINTO SPECIFICALLY PREVENTS A SENSE OF PRIDE AND COMMUNITY, WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO PROBLEMS WITH ILLEGAL DUMPING.

ADDITIONALLY, THE RATIO OF OWNERS TO RENTERS IN SAN JACINTO IS TOO LOW TO NURTURE THE GROWTH OF COMMUNITY.

OUR FINAL INSIGHT REVEALED THAT THE HOMELESS POPULATION IS PICKING UP ITEMS AND FURNITURE DUMPED ILLEGALLY, CREATING CLUTTER AND RANDOMLY SCATTERED ITEMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOT ONLY DOES THAT MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO PICK UP, IT CAN ALSO SPREAD BEDBUGS AND CREATE OTHER HEALTH ISSUES.

SO NOW IT'S BEEN FOUR MONTHS.

GETTING TO THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS HAS BEEN FUN AND HARD AND FRUSTRATING AND EXCITING, BUT THE TEAM HAS REALLY GATHERED AROUND EACH OTHER AND ALIGNED WITH A COMMON GOAL.

I'VE LOVED GETTING THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN.

GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND INTERVIEWING THOSE TO REALLY GAIN THEIR PERSPECTIVE OF

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THIS PROCESS IS KIND OF GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO JUST WORK THROUGH FAILURE A LITTLE BIT AND BE OKAY AND COMFORTABLE WITH ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT EXISTS.

ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT WE I THINK WE LEARNED IN HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT IT AS A GROUP, IS THAT THERE'S SO MANY MULTITUDE OF WAYS THAT PEOPLE GAIN THEIR INFORMATION.

AND SO IF WE'RE NOT TUNED IN AND ALL OF THOSE WAYS TO PUT OUR INFORMATION OUT THERE, IT

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THAT'S THE EXCITING THING AS WELL.

LIKE THIS TEAM IS HERE TO WORK ON ILLEGAL DUMPING.

BUT I THINK THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US KNOWS THAT THIS IS FAR MORE REACHING THAN THAN THE IMPACT THAT WILL HAVE THERE.

I'M REALLY EXCITED TO SEE HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH THE CITIZENS THROUGH PROCESSES LIKE THIS, WHERE IT STARTS TO FEEL LIKE WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR EACH OTHER, WHERE YOU BUILD THESE RELATIONSHIPS ON THIS VERY GRASSROOTS, ORGANIC TYPE OF WAY, AND THEN THEY START TO BECOME ADVOCATES WITH YOU.

SO WHAT NOW? NOW IT'S TIME TO GENERATE AND DEVELOP AND TEST THOSE NEW IDEAS.

WE'LL CONTINUE TO STAY FOCUSED ON BEING CREATIVE AND COLLABORATIVE AND IMPACTFUL.

THAT'S HOW WE'LL FIND THE IDEAS THAT WILL WORK, AND THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY EXCITING FOR US.

THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM FOR THE CITY OF AMARILLO.

WE'LL TAKE THIS KNOWLEDGE AND THESE METHODS TO OTHER ISSUES IN AMARILLO, AND WE'LL KNOW WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WHEN IT BECOMES A NORMAL PART OF THE WAY WE DO THINGS TO THE BENEFIT OF EVERY ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS HERE AT THE CITY OF AMARILLO.

SO THAT'S A REAL QUICK RECAP.

OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE AN IMPACT WITH THE ILLEGAL DUMPING ISSUE IN THE CITY OF AMARILLO.

BUT OUR GOAL IS MUCH LARGER THAN THAT.

IT'S REALLY TO CREATE A CULTURE.

IT'S TO CREATE A NEW PROBLEM SOLVING METHOD THAT PERMEATES THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR ALL STAFF AND ALL DEPARTMENTS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL TAKE TIME, OF COURSE, BUT OUR GOAL IS REALLY TO CREATE THIS SYSTEM WHERE WE INTERACT MORE WITH CITIZENS IN THEIR ENVIRONMENTS, INSTEAD OF ASKING THEM TO COME TO US AND WE HEAR ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS, WHERE THEY LIVE, INSTEAD OF ASKING THEM OR MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT WHAT THOSE PROBLEMS ARE.

SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THAT GOES INTO IT.

IT'S VERY EXCITING.

WE ARE ABOUT TO ENTER THE NEW THE NEXT PHASE, WHICH IS THE GENERATE PHASE WHERE WE START TALKING ABOUT ACTUAL SOLUTIONS AND IDEAS THAT MIGHT MAKE IMPACTS SPECIFIC TO THIS PROGRAM. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THE QUESTIONS OR GIVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION.

YOU KNOW, JORDAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AT WORKSHOP THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS ARE IS PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND HOW WE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS DO A BETTER JOB OF GOVERNING WHEN WE CAN HEAR BETTER AND LISTEN BETTER TO THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK THIS IS A TOOL, THIS TRAINING, THIS TEN MONTHS OF TRAINING.

I KNOW AT ONE POINT THE HARVARD FOLKS TOLD US THIS IS LIKE A $200,000 INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY AND THEY PAID FOR IT.

IT'S NOT BEEN OUT OF OUR BUDGET AT ALL.

IT'S A REAL INVESTMENT GOING FORWARD THAT GIVES US A NEW TOOL FOR HOW WE CAN LISTEN AND ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC.

I THINK THAT IT'S ONE OF THE MOST EXCITING THINGS THAT I'VE WORKED ON IN FIVE YEARS OF DOING CITY WORK, BECAUSE I CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL FOR DOING PUBLIC LISTENING AND PUBLIC PROBLEM SOLVING BETTER.

AND SO I THINK IT TIES INTO A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD.

OUR CONSULTANT USED THE TERM A MILITARY LIKE OPERATION FOR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

THIS TRAINING IS ACTUALLY A TOOL THAT I THINK CAN LEAD TO THAT TYPE OF COMMUNICATION AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PERFORMANCE.

YES, MA'AM. I WOULD DEFINITELY AGREE.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE REALLY NEAT THING ABOUT THE TEAM THAT WE HAVE BUILT IS THE COMMITMENT THAT EACH OF US HAS MADE TO TAKE THIS TRAINING AND MOVE IT FURTHER THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO THAT WHEN WE'RE AT THE END OF THE OFFICIAL TEN MONTH TRACK, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE PROGRAM. IT'S NOT THE END OF THE LEARNING THAT WE'VE DONE OR THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE. WE REALLY WANT TO CREATE A REPUTATION AS A TEAM AND AS A GROUP OF PEOPLE AND ULTIMATELY AS A CITY THAT WILL GET THINGS DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITIZENS THAT WE SERVE. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WELL, I JUST WANT TO SAY, FIRST, COUNCIL, ANY QUESTIONS OR FOLLOW UP ON THAT? I'VE GOT ONE IT'S A VERY IMPRESSIVE PROGRAM AND I SAW THE WHOLE 24 MINUTE PROGRAM OR WHATEVER IT WAS.

AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN FROM HARVARD STATED AS A RESULT OF A QUESTION ASKED, CAN WE DO THIS AGAIN? AND HE SAYS, IT NEEDS TO BE WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THIS THREE TIMES.

SO THIS IS ONE TIME.

DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR AT LEAST TWO MORE TIMES TO GET THIS PROCEDURE DOWN?

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PEOPLE ARE BRINGING ITEMS TO US THAT WOULD BE GREAT IDEAS TO WORK THROUGH OR GREAT SOLUTIONS OR GREAT PROBLEMS TO FIND SOLUTIONS FOR.

AS FAR AS A CONCRETE, THIS IS OUR NEXT PROGRAM.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT YET.

WE'RE TRYING TO KIND OF GET THROUGH THIS FIRST ONE AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE A REALLY SOLID FOUNDATION OF THE OF THE THE MECHANISMS. BUT WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF NOT DOING A TO A SECOND AND A THIRD AND THEN A FOURTH AND A FIFTH AND AS MANY AS WE CAN.

WHEN YOU GET READY, I'LL GIVE YOU MY PERSONAL IDEAS ON WHAT OTHER THINGS TO TACKLE.

I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY. ABSOLUTELY.

SO I, TOO, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION AS WELL.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO IS, LIKE YOU ALL STARTED IN DONNY'S GROUP, KIND OF LIKE WITH ILLEGAL DUMPING.

SO HOPEFULLY WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT FOCUS ON CUSTOMER SERVICE, YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP RESOLVE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE BETTER THAN THAN WHAT IT IS.

YES, MA'AM. I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING AS A COMMON THEME THROUGHOUT IS THE NEED FOR IMPROVED COMMUNICATION, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS SOMETHING THAT YOU FINALLY LAND ON.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON.

RIGHT. AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY ISSUE THAT'S COME TO US AS AN OPPORTUNITY OR EVERY ISSUE THAT WE HAVE FACED, REGARDLESS OF WHAT IT IS, HAS A COMMUNICATIONS COMPONENT OFTENTIMES AS A HUGE COMPONENT TO RESOLVING OR MAKING THE ISSUE BETTER.

AND SO CUSTOMER SERVICE IS ONE GREAT EXAMPLE OF AN AREA THAT WE CAN REALLY PLUG A LOT OF THESE THINGS INTO. WELL, I THINK WE CAN ALL BE IN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN ALWAYS IMPROVE ON CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ALSO COMMUNICATION.

SO THERE'S REALLY NO END GOAL FOR THOSE TWO AREAS BECAUSE IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE ONGOING. YES, MA'AM, I WOULD AGREE.

EXCELLENT. WELL, I JUST WANT TO THANK JARED AGAIN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP SEES THE BENEFIT OF ALLOWING 11 OF YOUR TEAM MEMBERS AND I WOULD COMPLIMENT JORDAN AND HIS TEAM.

I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL DOING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DO IN THEIR REGULAR DAY TO DAY JOBS. THEY'RE DOING THIS TRAINING ON TOP OF OVER AND ABOVE THAT.

SO IT'S QUITE A COMMITMENT.

BUT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT TO EACH DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'RE HOUSED IN AND PUSH THAT DOWN, TRAIN OTHER PEOPLE.

HOWARD, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR.

SO I JUST, I THINK THIS IS REALLY CITY SHAPING.

AND I REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE THE LEADERSHIP VISION THAT YOU'RE CASTING, JARED, AND THAT JORDAN AND HIS TEAM ARE EXECUTING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I REALLY JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL OF THE TEAM MEMBERS WHO ARE ACTUALLY IN AN INNOVATION TRAINING PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

SO SOME OF THEM, MANY OF THEM COULDN'T BE HERE, BUT THEY ARE DOING THE HEAVY LIFTING HERE. ABSOLUTELY.

AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL GET THE CREDIT FOR ALL THE WORK THEY'RE DOING.

SO, MAYOR, I DID WANT TO POINT OUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND DO OVER THE LONG TERM OR CERTAINLY OVER THE MEDIUM TERM IS IS KEEP HITTING DIFFERENT PROBLEMS LIKE HOWARD MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, TAKES IT TAKES THREE TO REALLY MAKE IT PART OF WHO WE ARE AS A CULTURE CULTURALLY INTO OUR ORGANIZATION.

SO THE TEAM THAT YOU SAW IN THERE, THEY ARE TO A PERSON AND DON'T LET IT GO TO ANYBODY'S HEADS. BUT THEY ARE ROCK STARS.

BUT BUT WE HAVE A VERY DEEP ORGANIZATION FILLED WITH ROCK STARS.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO KEEP CREATING MULTI DEPARTMENTAL INTERDISCIPLINARY TEAMS TO ADDRESS EMERGING OR ENDEMIC PROBLEMS. I KNOW THAT SOUNDED LIKE A VERY BUREAUCRATIC STATEMENT OF INTENT, BUT BUT THESE ARE THE THESE THIS IS NOT FOR HOW DO WE GET THE RIGHT NUMBER OF PAPERCLIPS FOR A CERTAIN DEPARTMENT. THIS IS FOR THE PROBLEMS THAT ARE THERE AND OUR PROBLEMS FOR EVERY COMMUNITY OUR COUNTRY.

AS AS IGNOBLE AS ILLEGAL DUMPING MIGHT SOUND, NOBODY HAS A SOLUTION FOR IT.

SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER IS GOING TO BE FELT AND APPRECIATED, HOPEFULLY BY OUR COMMUNITY. THIS GOES WITH A MYRIAD OF OTHER PROBLEMS THAT ARE CHRONIC AND AND ARE HARD TO SOLVE, WHETHER IT'S HOMELESSNESS OR YOU PICK YOUR HARD PROBLEM.

THIS IS A PROBLEM SOLVING TECHNIQUE THAT CAN, WHILE MAYBE NOT, IS THE SOLUTION, CAN MAKE THINGS BETTER AND INCORPORATE OUR COMMUNITY AND THEIR INPUT IN THAT PROBLEM SOLVING PROCESS IN A WAY THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ABOUT. IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.

I HAVE ONE MORE THING. SORRY, I FORGOT.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR RESIDENTS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUSINESSES, SPECIFICALLY FROM THE SAN JACINTO AREA WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO WORK THROUGH THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS WITH US.

SO IF YOU KNOW OF ANYBODY RENTERS, LANDLORDS, BUSINESS OWNERS, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, ANYBODY IN THE SAN JACINTO AREA THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED.

I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM THEM.

AND SHOULD THEY JUST EMAIL PUBLIC COMMUNICATIONS AT AMARILLO.GOV.

YES, MA'AM. THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO GET TO US REALLY QUICKLY.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, JORDAN.

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WE WILL MOVE ON TO TAKE UP OUR CONSENT AGENDA AND WE ARE GOING TO PULL ITEM Q FROM THAT.

ANYTHING ELSE, COUNCIL? IT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FOR DISCUSSION.

NO, MA'AM. DO WE HAVE A MOTION THEN, WITH REGARD TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES, MA'AM, WE DO.

I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEM Q AS PRESENTED.

IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEM Q.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

LET'S MOVE ON AND TAKE UP ITEM 2Q.

MR. CITY MANAGER? ALL RIGHT. THERE WE'VE GOT KYLE SNYDER, JOHN, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING OR DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENT.

CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT, YEAH.

THANK YOU. ANYWAY, HE'S GOING TO BE PRESENTING TO YOU THE ALL THE INS AND OUTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS COUNCIL HAS ON BEST VALUE BIDDING.

WE WENT TO BEST VALUE BIDDING A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO IN RESPONSE TO JUST SOME CHALLENGES WITH LOW PRICE BASING.

OUR BID SELECTION SOLELY ON LOW PRICE.

LOW PRICE HAS COST US A LOT OF MONEY OVER OVER YEARS.

AND THAT COMES IN EITHER PROJECTS NOT BEING DONE TO SPECIFICATION MATERIALS.

POSSIBLY. TIME, POSSIBLY.

AND IT'S NOT JUST PRICE, IT'S IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

IF A PROJECT GOES OVER THE WINTER OR IF IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, IT HAS AN IMPACT ON OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE WENT TO BEST VALUE BIDDING SO THAT WE COULD INCORPORATE NOT ONLY LOW PRICE BUT CAPABILITY OF COMPANY TO DO SOMETHING.

AND IT'S NOT JUST ONE. THERE'S NO ONE COMPANY THAT WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE'RE DOING, IT'S GOING TO BE THE BEST TOOL TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. SO IT'S NOT JUST PRICE, IT'S NOT JUST ABILITY TO DO THE PROJECT.

IT'S NOT JUST PAST EXPERIENCE WITH THE CITY OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT ENCAPSULATES ALL THOSE THINGS INTO A DECISION MATRIX THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE THE BEST VALUE SELECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY.

SO, KYLE, TAKE IT AWAY. ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, KYLE SNYDER, JOHN CAPITAL PROJECTS AND DEVELOPMENT ENGINEERING DIRECTOR. AND THIS ITEM IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERATION FOR THE AWARD OF A PROJECT THAT IS A TRENCH LINE REPAIR IN BOLTON STREET FROM FROM SOUTHEAST 13TH TO APPROXIMATELY SE 27TH.

AS JARED MENTIONED, WE DID A BEST VALUE BID EVALUATION FOR THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND CPD ENGINEERING IS RECOMMENDING EMERALD UTILITY CONTRACTORS AS THE BEST VALUE AND THEY ARE NOT THE LOWEST COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE BIDS THAT WERE THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

AMBERLEY THE EFFECTIVELY FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THE BEST VALUE CRITERIA WAS PUT IN PLACE BASED ON SOME OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS PROJECT.

SPECIFICALLY, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN VERY IMPACTFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THAT IT IS THAT IS IN.

THEY HAD TO ENDURE THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND THEN AND THEN HAD TO ENDURE THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE TRENCH FAILURES THAT HAVE NECESSITATED THIS THIS FOLLOW UP PROJECT. AND SO WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THAT, THAT IT HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPACTFUL TO TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS A WHOLE.

THE PROJECT IS CONFINED TO A RELATIVELY SMALL CONSTRUCTION AREA, LIMITED TO THE EXISTING INSIDE THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY.

THE WATERLINE THAT WE'RE THAT WE'RE REPAIRING THE TRENCH FOR IS IN THE PAVING.

AND THAT HAS BEEN ISOLATED FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

AND AND SO THAT THAT THAT SMALL CONSTRUCTION AREA NECESSITATES A GOOD AND EFFICIENT CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.

AND THE GOALS THOSE GOALS WERE REFLECTED IN, IN THE BID CATEGORY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THE CONTRACT WAS PUT TOGETHER, IT WAS PUT TOGETHER.

I APOLOGIZE. I'M SNIFFING IN THE MICROPHONE.

I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THOSE THOSE BID CRITERIA WERE PUT TOGETHER, THERE IS A HIGHER RATING IN THAT CRITERIA FOR QUALIFICATION OVER PRICE.

IF YOU OUR BEST VALUE PROCESS IS A THREE PANEL MEMBER, THREE STAFF MEMBERS ARE GIVEN BASICALLY THE CRITERIA THAT'S WRITTEN OUT IN THE SPEC BOOK THAT WENT OUT TO THE CONTRACTORS FOR BID AND THEY EVALUATE WRITTEN QUESTIONS THAT ARE PREDETERMINED IDEAS OF QUESTIONS FOR PRICE AND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT PRICE, QUALIFICATIONS AND SAFETY AND AND THEN THEY TURN THOSE SCORES BLINDLY INTO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, WHICH COMBINES THOSE,

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ULTIMATELY, WITH THEIR SCORES, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE RECOMMENDING EMERALD UTILITY CONTRACTORS, WHO AGAIN WAS NOT THE LOWEST PRICE BIDDER.

BUT BUT THAT RECOMMENDATION DOES CONSIDER THE WAY THAT EMERALD UTILITY CONTRACTORS MANAGES THEIR JOBS AND MANAGES THEIR JOB SITES.

THEY PERFORM THEIR WORK IN A VERY EFFICIENT AND CONCISE MANNER.

I'M NOT AWARE IN MY NINE YEAR TENURE WITH THE CITY OF AMARILLO OF EVER BEING IN A OVERRUN CONTRACT TIME WITHIN A CONTRACT WITH UTILITY CONTRACTORS.

NOR HAVE I CONSIDERED LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ON CONTRACT WITH WITH AMARILLO UTILITY CONTRACTORS IN MY IN MY NINE YEAR TENURE.

AUC HAS AN EXCELLENT WORKMANSHIP RECORD AND HAS A WELL-ESTABLISHED PATTERN OF PROACTIVE MANAGEMENT STRATEGIES AS WELL AS AN EXCELLENT RECORD ON TRENCH COMPACTION AND THE ONSITE QUALITY CONTROL THAT IS REQUIRED DURING CONSTRUCTION TO ACHIEVE GOOD TRENCH COMPACTION.

AND THEY HAVE HAVE AN EXEMPLARY RECORD IN PROJECTS NOT HAVING TO BE REVISITED FOR WARRANTY WORK ASSOCIATED WITH TRENCH COMPACTION IN THE PAST.

AND AS I MENTIONED, THAT IS THE FAILURE MODUS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO REMEDY ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.

ALL OF THESE THINGS ABSOLUTELY HAVE A VALUE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND HAVE A VALUE TO THE TAXPAYER. AND THAT EVALUATION IS WHAT IS INTENDED BY THE BEST VALUE BIDDING PROCESS.

AND I BELIEVE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE BRING FORWARD ACHIEVES THAT.

COUNCIL, QUESTIONS FOR KYLE.

SO ON YOUR THREE PANEL.

AH, I DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE NAMES.

SURE. HOW DO YOU COME UP WITH YOUR THREE PANELS? YEAH. TYPICALLY IT'S AT LEAST TWO MEMBERS OF MY STAFF, WHICH WOULD GENERALLY BE THE DESIGN ENGINEER AND A SUPERVISING ENGINEER, EITHER THE CITY ENGINEER OR THE ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER. AND THEN THERE WOULD BE ONE STAFF FROM OUR WHO WE VIEW OUR CLIENT, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT.

SO IN THIS CASE, THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS A THIRD HAS OUR THIRD REPRESENTATIVE ON THE PANEL. AND SO THEY ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

ARE THEY GRADE THESE QUESTIONNAIRES? NOT TOGETHER.

THEY DO THEM SEPARATELY ON THEIR OWN TIME, WITHOUT INFLUENCE FROM EACH OTHER.

YES, SIR. AND THERE IS A LIST OF THE, IN THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS OF THE BEST VALUE BID CRITERIA.

AND THAT CRITERIA DOES CHANGE PROJECT TO PROJECT.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE LOOKED AT THE CRITERIA AND THE ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT AND MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO PUT QUALIFICATIONS OVER WITH A HIGHER SCORE THAN PRICE, AND THAT THAT CHANGES FROM PROJECT TO PROJECT BASED ON OUR CRITERIA AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. ON EACH INDIVIDUAL PROJECT, WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND THE GENERATION OF THOSE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS COME THROUGH OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT, WHICH ALLOWS US TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STILL FOLLOWING ALL STATE LAWS AND CRITERIA AS WE ISSUE THOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER STANLEY? I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I DIDN'T WANT TO JUMP IN FOR IN FRONT OF FREDA.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS BECAUSE IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE WAY THAT THIS PROJECT WAS BID TWICE. SO DID THE BUDGET CHANGE? AND IF THE INCREASE IN THE BUDGET, WHERE DID WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? WHY DID WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL MONEY? SO YEAH, NO, GREAT.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

I MEANT TO SAY THAT MR. FULLER GAVE A GOOD SYNOPSIS, AN ACCURATE SYNOPSIS OF OF OF THE PROCESS.

YES. THE ORIGINAL THE PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY BID OUT, AND EVERY BID THAT WE RECEIVED WAS GREATER THAN THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE FOR THE PROJECT.

AND SO THE THE UTILITIES DEPARTMENT ARE ENGINEERING'S CLIENT THAT BASICALLY MADE A DECISION, HEY, I'VE GOT TO REORGANIZE AREA, I'VE GOT TO RETOOL.

SO THE EVALUATION PROCESS WAS STOPPED AT THAT LEVEL.

WE DID NOT DO A FULL EVALUATION OF THE BIDDER QUALIFICATIONS OR ANY OTHER CRITERIA.

WE BASICALLY SAID, HEY, THIS IS OVERBUDGET.

WE STOPPED THE PROCESS.

AND SO THEN EFFECTIVELY THAT DEPARTMENT GOES BACK AND LOOKS AT LOOKS AT THIS PROJECT, LOOKS AT THEIR OTHER PRIORITIES, THINGS THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR CURRENT CAPITAL, LISTING THINGS THAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR EYE.L OPPORTUNITIES OR WHATEVER FUNDING MECHANISMS THEY

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AND THEY BASICALLY PRIORITIZE WHAT WHAT HAPPENS, WHAT, WHAT GETS CUT OR WHAT MAYBE WHAT MOVES TO BUMP BACK A YEAR, WHATEVER THOSE DECISIONS ARE.

THAT'S WHERE THAT MONEY PER SAY IS GENERATED FROM THE EXISTING BUDGET AND OR BUDGET THAT'S THAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE.

SO DID THE SCOPE OF WORK CHANGE IN THE, LET'S CALL IT, BID A VERSUS BID B? SO WHEN BID B WAS PUT BACK OUT, SCOPE OF WORK WAS GREATER, THUS A GREATER BUDGET THAT WE INCREASED UP TO. YES, SIR.

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NO, THE, I DON'T HAVE THE ENGINEER ESTIMATE LISTED DOWN THERE.

I'M SORRY. I SHOULD HAVE THAT ON THERE.

BUT WE HAD I BELIEVE WE HAD FOUR OF THE FIVE NEW SUBMISSIONS.

[1.B. Updates from Councilmembers serving on outside boards and commissions]

OKAY. SO LET'S ASSUME THAT IT'S IN BUDGET FOR THE AWARD THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING FOR NOW, RIGHT? SURE IT IS. WE STILL HAVE A 656,000 POTENTIAL SAVINGS.

MY QUESTION IS, THIS SEEMS VERY SUBJECTIVE IN THE WAY OF BIDDER QUALIFICATIONS, AND IT ONLY SEEMS THAT WAY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH.

SO CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THOSE SPECIFIC BITTER CALLS ARE AND MAYBE HOW THEY'RE RATED? SO BIDDER QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT WAS 55% OF THE TOTAL EVALUATED SCORE.

WHEN EVALUATING A BIDDERS QUALIFICATION, THE CITY USES THE BIDDER'S STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATIONS AND ANY PAST EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCED WITH THE BIDDER.

SO THEY, THE BIDDER, IS ASKED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AS WELL AS AND HIGHLIGHT INFORMATION THAT THEY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT.

AND AND FOR THE COMMITTEE TO TO CONSIDER AS WELL AS THOSE COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE ASKED TO AND ALLOWED TO USE THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THAT CONTRACTOR.

THE BIDDER STATEMENT OF QUALIFICATION IS A MINIMUM AND YOU MAY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PERTINENT INFORMATION RELEVANT TO THE PROJECT FOR WHICH YOU ARE SUBMITTING THIS PROPOSAL.

EVALUATION OF THE BIDDERS QUALIFICATIONS SHALL BE BASED ON THE FOLLOWING A THE REPUTATION OF THE BIDDER AND THE BIDDER'S GOODS AND SERVICES.

A ONE THAT IS THE CHARACTER, INTEGRITY, REPUTATION, JUDGMENT, EXPERIENCE AND EFFICIENCY OF THE BIDDER FOR TEN POINTS.

OKAY. ITEM B THE QUALITY OF THE BIDDERS, GOODS AND SERVICES.

THE QUALITY OF PERFORMANCE OF PREVIOUS CONTRACTS OR SERVICES.

TEN POINTS. GOOD.

THE BIDDERS PAST RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MUNICIPALITY.

TEN POINTS. ANY RELEVANT CRITERIA SPECIFICALLY LISTED IN THE REQUEST FOR BIDS OR PROPOSAL, AND THAT'S ITEM D-1, THE ABILITY, CAPACITY, SKILL AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO PERFORM THE WORK OR PROVIDE THE SERVICES REQUIRED TEN POINTS.

THE ABILITY OF THE BIDDER TO PERFORM THE WORK OR PROVIDE THE SERVICES PROMPTLY OR WITHIN THE TIME SPECIFIED WITHOUT DELAY OR INTERFERENCE.

TEN POINTS. THE EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS OF KEY PROJECT PERSONNEL.

FIVE POINTS. THESE ARE ALL THE SELECTION CRITERIA FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

THAT'S GREAT. THAT GETS TO WHERE IT'S NOT QUITE SO SUBJECTIVE.

SO AS A FELLOW CONTRACTOR, THERE'S REALLY ONLY ONE WAY TO DO THIS.

AND I BELIEVE THAT MR. FULLER WILL UNDERSTAND MY DIRECTNESS.

BUT MUCH AS YOU ASKED ME, YOU KNOW HOW I RUN MY BUSINESS, I'M GOING TO ASK THE QUESTION, ARE YOU IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE CITY? DOES FULLER AND SONS HAVE A GOOD STANDING WITH THE CITY? IS THERE ANY REASON THAT I SHOULDN'T CONTINUE TO APPROACH THIS CONVERSATION, THINKING THAT. THEY WOULD HAVE HIGHER MARKS ON THESE.

THEY WOULD HAVE HIGH MARKS. SO ELLIOT FULLER& SONS IS NOT ON OUR ON THE CITY'S DEBARRED BIDDERS LIST THEY ARE ELIGIBLE TO BID AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO BID WHEN WHEN ASKED.

ANYBODY ON THE DEBARRED LIST? THERE ARE CONTRACTORS.

I DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHO BIDS, BUT.

THERE'S FIVE. AND I DON'T MEAN THIS IN THE WRONG WAY.

I SIMPLY MEAN IT IN A FACTUAL WAY OF DETERMINING LIKE REPUTATION, QUALITY, THE SCHEDULE ON THIS ONE, IF THERE'S NOT A TIME FRAME, THEN WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A PROMPTNESS OTHER THAN JUST NEED.

THAT'S A GREAT POINT. AND I DID NOT MENTION THAT.

AND JONAS, MR. FULLER DID. TIME WAS A SELECTION CRITERIA IN THE FIRST BID.

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THE SECOND TIME WE TURNED THAT PROJECT OUT, WHAT WE ELECTED TO DO WAS TO JUST PUT A HARD AND FAST DEADLINE.

BASICALLY, IT WAS BID WITH 180 DAYS.

AND SO THAT REMOVED A POSITIVE AND IT REMOVED A NEGATIVE FROM THE TIMING STANDPOINT AND SAID THE PROJECT MUST BE COMPLETED IN THIS TIME PERIOD.

THE CONSIDERATION FOR THAT WAS THE.

ERRATIC SCALE WITH WHICH THE FROM THE ORIGINAL BIDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

THAT WAS PART OF OUR CONSIDERATION FOR TIMING.

AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE JUST PUT, WE KIND OF TOOK THAT OUT OF THE EQUATION AND PUT A DEADLINE. LET ME GO BACK A HALF STEP.

I KNOW WE'RE DOING BEST VALUE BIDDING AND SO ARE THERE OTHER PROCESSES THAT THAT WE UTILIZE OR DO WE DO BEST VALUE BIDDING ON ALL ITEMS RIGHT NOW? IS THAT A IS THAT EVEN A GOOD QUESTION OR IS IT TWO IS TOO BROAD? CP AND ENGINEERING IS CURRENTLY BIDDING ALL CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT COME THROUGH OUR PURVIEW THROUGH THE BEST VALUE PROCESS.

THERE ARE OTHER PROCESSES FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

YEAH, IT DEPENDS.

WE HAVE NO BIDDER MEETING SPECS, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID FOR YEARS AND THE BEST VALUE.

WE HAVE RFP WHICH YOU'VE SEEN THAT JERRY USES SOME AND WE USE IN OTHER PLACES.

THE RFQ IS FOR QUALIFICATIONS AND WE HAVE ONE THAT WE'VE ONLY USED ONE TIME, AND IT'S CALLED A TWO STEP BID PROCESS.

THE ONLY TIME I CAN REMEMBER USING THIS WAS AT THE OSAGE PLANT, IT'S A VERY TECHNICAL PROCESS OR WE USE IT, WE HAVE A VERY TECHNICAL PROCESS.

WE ASK THE BIDDERS TO SUBMIT THE QUALIFICATIONS IN ONE ENVELOPE AND THE PRICE IN A SECOND ENVELOPE. AND AT BID OPENING, WE WOULD OPEN ALL OF THE ENVELOPES FOR THE QUALIFICATIONS.

THEY WOULD BE EVALUATED AND RANKED ACCORDING TO THE QUALIFICATIONS.

THOSE THAT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS TO DO THE JOB, WE WOULD THEN OPEN THEIRS AND THEIR ONLY PRICING AND THEN RANK THEM AND SUCH.

SO THOSE ARE PRETTY MUCH OUR OPTIONS.

SO ESSENTIALLY YOU QUALIFY AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE QUALIFIED, YOU'RE IN THE POOL AND THEN IT'S AWARDED LOW BID.

IN THAT CASE, YES, SIR.

OK THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, JUST TO CLARIFY POINT SYSTEMS AND SO QUALIFYING YOUR BIDDER QUALIFICATIONS OUTRANKS EVERYTHING ELSE I'M LOOKING AT.

FULLER AND SONS RANKS A FIVE OUT OF FIVE ON SAFETY.

AND THEN FULLER AND SONS RANKS A 40 OUT OF 40 ON BID PRICE.

SO THEY WERE THE LOW BIDDER AND THE SAFEST RANKING.

BUT THEY'RE THE LOWEST QUALIFYING.

SO. LET ME STOP THERE IN THE WAY OF LIKE I FEEL LIKE THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD REALLY BENEFIT IN A CONVERSATION WITH COUNCIL ON IS IN FUTURE LIKE IS THIS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AS A CITY IN AWARDING PROJECTS? AND I'M NOT ASKING AN OPINION.

I'M, MAYBE FOR A DISCUSSION ITEM LATER.

IS THIS JUST THE FIRST TIME THAT WE MAY RUN INTO THIS TYPE OF AN ISSUE AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT OTHER TYPES OF BIDS MUCH MORE LIKE YOU QUALIFY FIRST AND THEN LOW BIDDERS AWARDED IN THAT PARTICULAR STYLE.

MAYOR, CAN I ASK, WOULD THAT BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO SCHEDULE THE TIME TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT SOMETHING? MR. CITY MANAGE, COULD WE SET UP A TIME TO DISCUSS THAT WITH COUNCIL MEMBER STANLEY? I KNOW THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED IN PREVIOUS YEARS THAT WE WERE ON THE COUNCIL AND WE WERE THE COUNCIL THAT DECIDED THE BEST VALUE BIDDING PROCESS WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, ESPECIALLY ON THE ON THESE ENGINEERING AND PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS. SO BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT CONVERSATION SINCE YOU'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, SO LET'S WORK ON GETTING THAT SET UP AND AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE AND HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED.

SURE. YEAH. JUST DO A REAL SUPER DEEP DIVE ON HOW ARE WE RIGHT HERE WITH REGARD TO BEST VALUE BIDDING ON THIS TYPE OF PROJECT? WE CAN GO OVER THE HISTORY AND AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU'VE GOT AND THEN AND THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE. DOES IT NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION OR HOWEVER COUNCIL WANTS TO DIRECT ME TO GO, WE'LL GO.

RIGHT. YEAH.

I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT IS WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.

AND THEN.

THROUGH THAT CONVERSATION, BE ABLE TO TO EITHER GET ON BOARD OR LOOK AT WHAT OTHER POSSIBLE SCENARIOS COULD BE BETTER FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROJECTS.

AND THEN IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, DEFINITELY NOT TRYING TO STEP ON ANYBODY'S TOES, BUT BUT BEING VERY DIRECT AND REALLY KIND OF WANT TO ISOLATE WHAT THE PROBLEM IS HERE.

NOT NECESSARILY.

IN THE WAY THAT IT CAN BE LEFT SUBJECTIVE.

AND I KNOW THAT BEING ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE, IT'S NICE WHEN IT'S FACTUAL AND IT'S

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SO I DO REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND ASKING ME AND BEING DIRECT WITH ME AND GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

WE'LL DO OUR BEST MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM? YES. SO I HAVE A BACKGROUND IN WORKING WITH SERVICE CONTRACTS AS WELL.

AND SO I KNOW THAT PRICE IS DEFINITELY IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK WITHIN A BUDGET.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME IN DEALING WITH SERVICE CONTRACTS, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA AND THE QUALIFICATIONS FIRST, BECAUSE ANY VENDOR OUT THERE CAN LOW BID A PROJECT JUST JUST TO GET HIS OR HER FOOT IN THE DOOR.

AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IN RELATIONSHIP TO MR. FULLER, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE IN HAVING TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS OVER THE YEARS. AND SO QUALITY IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT I'M LOOKING FOR IN ANY VENDOR THAT I'M DEALING WITH. SO I WANT YOU TO COME WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOUR BEST BID, YOUR THE CRITERIA THAT YOU HAVE YOUR COMPANIES IN GOOD STANDING.

AND THEN I WANT TO LOOK AT THE OPPOSITE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE COMPLAINTS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF LIQUIDATED DAMAGES? BECAUSE EVERY EVERY CONTRACTOR IS GOING TO HAVE THAT.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN A CONTRACTOR THAT'S PERFECT.

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BUT THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS ISSUE FOR YEARS. SO HOW LONG HAS THIS PROJECT BEEN ON THE TABLE? SURE. SO THE ORIGINAL PROJECT WAS BID OUT IN 2014.

WE HAVE AN ACCEPTANCE DATE OF ABOUT OF SOMETIME IN 2016.

AND THEN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WE SAW THE TRENCH COMPACTION ISSUES.

WE ENTERED INTO SOME LEGAL PROCEEDINGS WITH WITH THAT THAT CONTRACTOR, WHICH IS NOT ONE OF THE BIDDERS ON ON OUR CURRENT LIST.

AND THERE WERE SOME NEGOTIATIONS WE DID WE DID GROUND PENETRATING RADAR ACTIVITIES IN IN THIS AREA AND ISOLATED CERTAIN AREAS FOR FOR ADDITIONAL WORK.

BUT BUT ULTIMATELY, THOSE NEGOTIATED ISSUES AND AS A TACTIC WAS WAS ULTIMATELY UNSUCCESSFUL.

AND THE PROJECT BEGAN TO FAIL EVEN EVEN FURTHER OVER OVER A MATTER OF YEARS.

AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A FAILURE ON THIS PROJECT SINCE 2016, DEPENDING ON WHAT AREA.

AND THEN OUR CREW IS TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH ITS REPAIR.

AND SO A LONG TIME THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN IMPACTED.

BECAUSE I'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL PHONE CALLS FROM MANY, MANY CITIZENS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. THEN HOW MANY MILES OF STREET REPAIR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? FORD MIGHT HAVE TO HELP ME WITH THAT CONTRACT.

AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE JOB, THE DEPICTION IN OUR, THAT IS 2300 FEET FROM I-40 SOUTH, JUST A LITTLE LESS THAN A HALF MILE AND AN ADDITIONAL STATION, 185 STATION.

AN ADDITIONAL 160 FEET NORTH OF I-40 FROM, SAY, 13TH TO NEARLY 300 FEET, I GUESS.

SO THAT WOULD BE JUST A LITTLE LESS THAN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE IS WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY REPAIRING. I APOLOGIZE FIR NOT HAVING THOSE NUMBERS AT MY HAND.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

AND BY THE WAY, THAT BUDGET, WHEN I DID WALK OVER TO FLOYD AND GET LOOK AT THAT CONTRACT, OUR BUDGET ESTIMATE WAS $3 MILLION.

AND SO WE ARE RECOMMENDING A PROJECT ACCEPTANCE INSIDE THE CURRENT BUDGET IDENTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, KYLE. WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AT THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH REGARD TO ITEM 2Q, COUNCIL? YES, MAYOR. IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT, LET ME FLIP BACK OVER HERE.

OK MAYOR I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AWARD OF THE WATER TRANSFER LINE TRENCH REPAIR, SE 13TH AVENUE IN BOLTON TO SE 27TH AND BOLTON STREET TO AMARILLO UTILITY CONTRACTORS,

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IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER SMITH.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT MOTION COUNCIL? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? MOTION PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM 3B IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 7990.

MR. CITY MANAGER? ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, WE'VE GOT BRADY KENDRICK HERE TO PRESENT THE ITEM.

THIS IS A REZONING.

BRADY, TAKE IT AWAY. AND HE'S ALSO GOT THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL, MAYOR.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT PROPOSES TO VACATE A PORTION OF AN ALLEY LOCATED ADJACENT TO LOTS FOUR THROUGH SIX AND A PORTION OF LOT THREE BLOCKS 16 MORNINGSIDE SUBDIVISION IN SECTION 156 BLOCK TWO, ABM SURVEY, POTTER COUNTY, TEXAS.

AND THE VICINITY IS AMARILLO BOULEVARD AND MERE STREET, AND THE APPLICANT IS ANDREW MITCHELL FOR JAMAL ENTERPRISES LP.

THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ABANDONMENT OF THIS ALLEY SEGMENT IN ORDER TO CREATE A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT SITE BETWEEN TWO TRACTS OF LAND THAT THEY OWN IN ORDER TO CONSTRUCT A NEW CARWASH WITHIN THE CURRENT ALLEY, THERE ARE THERE IS A CITY WATER AND SEWER MAIN, ALONG WITH FRANCHISED UTILITY COMPANY EQUIPMENT.

AND CONSIDERING THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO RETAIN A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT OVER THAT AREA TO BE VACATED.

TRASH SERVICE ALSO IN THIS AREA WILL NOT BE IMPACTED AS THIS IS A T-SHAPED ALLEY, IF YOU WILL, IN THE WESTERN SEGMENT OF THAT ALLEY WILL REMAIN OPEN.

SO THIS WILL NOT RESULT IN A SITUATION WHERE THERE IS A DEAD END ALLEY.

REGARDING FAIR MARKET VALUE PAYMENT THAT IS NOT REQUIRED IN THIS INSTANCE, SINCE THEY ARE RETAINING AN AREA OF EQUAL OR GREATER VALUE WITH THAT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT.

WE DID SEND NOTICES OUT TO EVERYONE WITHIN 200 FEET REGARDING THIS REQUEST.

ONE PHONE CALL WAS RECEIVED THAT DID NOT EXPRESS OPPOSITION.

IT WAS JUST A GENERAL INQUIRY.

CONSIDERING THE JUST MENTIONED, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRADY? THANK YOU, BRADY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM THREE B ORDINANCE NUMBER 7990.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WISHES TO SPEAK FOR ON OR AGAINST THIS ITEM? SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 7990, VACATING A 2492 SQUARE FOOT PORTION OF A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ALLEY LOCATED ADJACENT TO LOTS FOUR THROUGH SIX AND A PORTION OF LOT THREE. BLOCK 16 MORNINGSIDE SUBDIVISION AND ADDITION TO THE CITY OF AMARILLO AND SECTION 156 BLOCK 2, ABM SURVEY POTTER COUNTY, TEXAS, IN THE VICINITY OF AMARILLO BOULEVARD AND MIRROR STREET.

SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND SECONDED BY DR.

SAUER TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 7990.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON THE MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

ITEM 3C.

BRADY? ITEM 3C IS TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REZONING LOT 26 J BLOCK 25 COLTER ACRES UNIT NUMBER EIGHT. THE REMAINING PORTIONS OF LOTS 26 AND 27.

BLOCK TWO. COLTER ACRES UNIT NUMBER ONE, A PORTION OF LOT 27C AND ALL OF 27RD.

BLOCK TWO COLTER ACRES UNIT NUMBER FIVE, ALL IN SECTION 38, BLOCK 9, B AND F SURVEY.

RANDALL COUNTY, TEXAS TO CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ONE TO OFFICE DISTRICT TO THE VICINITY OF SW 77TH AVENUE AND COLTER STREET.

AND THE APPLICANTS ARE GREG FARBER, ON BEHALF OF THE RESERVE OFFICES LLC, HAYS HOLDINGS AND INVESTMENTS GROUP, LLC AND REDEEMER PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.

ADJACENT ZONING CONSISTS OF AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO THE NORTH, AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO THE SOUTH GENERAL RETAIL TO THE EAST, AND IS ADJACENT TO THE CURRENT CITY LIMITS TO THE WEST.

ADJACENT LAND USES CONSISTS OF SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOMES AND VACANT LAND TO THE NORTH, VACANT LAND TO THE SOUTH, A PRIVATE CHILDREN'S ACADEMY AND VACANT LAND TO THE EAST AND A MANUFACTURED HOME PARK TO THE WEST.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THIS PROPOSED CHANGE IN ZONING TO DEVELOP THE LAND WITH OFFICE RELATED LAND USES.

THE LAND PROPOSED TO BE REZONED IS SITUATED IN A UNIQUE AREA OF AMARILLO.

ITS UNIQUENESS IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE WEST HALF IS BORDERED BY THE LAND ADJACENT TO THE EAST, HALF IS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND IS ADJACENT TO A MAJOR SECTION LINE ARTERIAL. AS SUCH, DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING PATTERNS IN THE AREA ARE NOT TYPICAL, WHEREAS WITHIN THE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL LAND USES ARE FOUND.

LAND ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF COLTER STREET.

INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS IS PRIMARILY ESTATE, RESIDENTIAL LAND, AND ON THE EAST SIDE IS RETAIL IN NATURE.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS OF THE OPINION THAT MANY POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT AND

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YET THE MAJORITY OF THE LAND ALONG THE WEST SIDE IS BEING RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE.

CONSIDERATION OF EXISTING RESIDENCES SHOULD BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT, GIVEN ITS UNIQUE LOCATION AND WITH OFFICE ZONING NOW BEING REQUESTED RATHER THAN RETAIL AS INQUIRED ABOUT IN THE PAST, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES BELIEVE THAT THE LAND USE IS ALLOWED IN OFFICE. ZONING ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING RESIDENCES AND THAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR APPROPRIATE INFILL OF LONG, UNDEVELOPED LAND IS PRESENT.

NOTICES WERE SENT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET AS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW AS OF THIS WRITING. TWO PHONE CALLS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, ONE OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST AND THE OTHER BEING AN INQUIRY.

THE PRIMARY CONCERNED EXPRESSED BY THAT THE PERSON EXPRESSING OPPOSITION WAS POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO PROPERTY VALUES.

CONSIDERING ALL THE JUST MENTIONED, ALTHOUGH OFFICE ZONING DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE RECOMMENDED DEVELOPMENT TYPE AND ESTATE RESIDENTIAL.

THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BELIEVES THAT MINIMAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS WOULD RESULT AND THAT OFFICE ZONING, RATHER THAN GENERAL RETAIL ZONING IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL LAND USES, COULD BE MORE A MORE DEVELOPABLE ZONE DESIRABLE ZONING PATTERN.

THEREFORE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.

COUNCIL, QUESTIONS FOR BRADY.

WHAT WAS THE VOTE AT PNC? OH, IT WAS UNANIMOUS, 6-0.

GREAT. THANK YOU, BRADY.

AT THIS TIME, WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 3C ORDINANCE NUMBER 7991.

IS THERE ANYONE PRESENT WHO WAS JUST WISHES TO SPEAK FOR, ON OR AGAINST ITEM 3C? SEEING NO ONE, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE NUMBER 7991, WHICH IS REZONING, EXCUSE ME, REZONING LOT 26 J BLOCK 25 COLTER ACRES, UNIT NUMBER EIGHT, THE REMAINING PORTION OF LOTS 26 AND 27. BLOCK TWO COLTER ACRES UNIT NUMBER ONE, A PORTION OF LOT 27C AND ALL OF 27RD.

BLOCK TWO COLTER ACRES UNIT NUMBER FIVE, ALL IN SECTION 38, BLOCK 9, B AND F SURVEY.

RANDALL COUNTY, TEXAS, PLUS ONE HALF OF ALL BOUNDING STREETS, ALLEYS AND PUBLIC WAYS TO CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ONE, WHICH IS R-1 TO OFFICE DISTRICT 02 IN THE VICINITY OF SW 77TH AVENUE AND COLTER STREET.

SECOND.

IT'S BEEN MOVED BY THE MAYOR PRO TEM, SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SAUER TO APPROVE ORDINANCE NUMBER 7991.

ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MOTION COUNCIL? YEAH, I DO. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT.

HOW DOES THIS WORK WHEN HALF THE LAND IS IN THE CITY AND HALF OF IT'S OUT OF THE CITY? SO THE ENTIRETY OF THIS TRACK IS ACTUALLY ALL WITHIN THE CITY? IT IS? YEAH.

THE CHURCH ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

I FORGET HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT WAS ACTUALLY REQUESTED ANNEXATION.

SO THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS LITTLE OK.

IT JUST LOOKED LIKE IT WAS HALF ANNEXED AND HALF NOT.

IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL.

LOOKING FOR SURE.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE KIND OF JUTTED OUT THE CITY LIMITS AT A POINT TO GET THAT CHURCH IN THE CITY LIMIT BACK A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

MY BAD. SORRY. IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THANK YOU, EDDIE. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION.

PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

ITEM 3C? NOPE, 3D.

THANK YOU. I CAN'T GET MY MOUTH TO ACTUALLY CONNECT IS CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NUMBER 7992. MR. CITY MANAGER? RIGHT.

MARY, THANK YOU. THIS IS A REQUEST FROM WEST TEXAS GAS UTILITY FOR FRANCHISE RIGHTS TO BE ABLE TO USE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY TO PROVIDE GAS SERVICES.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAVE EITHER ANNEXED TO OR ADJACENT TO OR NEARBY WHEREVER THEY CURRENTLY PROVIDE SERVICE OUT IN THE EXTRATERRITORIAL JURISDICTION.

I'VE LOOKED AT MY HISTORY OF CITIES THAT I'VE WORKED AT.

I'VE NEVER WORKED AT A CITY THAT USED THEM, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THEM.

WE HAVE. I UNDERSTAND.

OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO HAND IT TO BRIAN MCWILLIAMS, CITY ATTORNEY TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION. WE ALSO HAVE CODY COWLING TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL HAS NOT CALLING YOU UP RIGHT NOW.

I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE YOU WERE.

SO. BRIAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT OR.

BRIAN AND I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GOT OR WE CAN PLAY.

SURE. CODY SURE.

JUST AS A REMINDER, EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, WE'LL HAVE A FRANCHISE COME TO US.

THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROVISION IN THE CHARTER THAT TALKS ABOUT FRANCHISES AND PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS. THE USE OF PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS THAT ARE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR UTILITIES.

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SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS BEFORE YOUR FIRST READING OF THAT FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.

NOW, PER OUR CHARTER, THERE IS A THREE WEEK CONSECUTIVE PUBLICATION PERIOD THAT THE UTILITY PAYS FOR IN A REGIONAL NEWSPAPER.

AND THEN THERE'S A 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD AFTER THAT TO ALLOW FOR SOMEONE TO COME FORWARD WITH A PROTEST AND OR COMMENT OR WHATEVER BEFORE COUNCIL TAKES THE MATTER UP AGAIN.

SO IF THE COUNCIL ACTS TODAY, THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE UTILITY OR WEST TEXAS GAS UTILITY WILL PUBLISH.

YOU'LL HAVE A 30 DAY WAITING PERIOD AND THEN YOU'LL SEE IT PROBABLY LATE AUGUST OR EARLY SEPTEMBER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.

IN THE MEANTIME, IF THERE'S COMMENTS OR CONCERNS, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THEM UP AT THAT TIME AS WELL. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE WAY IT WORKS IN THE CITY OF AMARILLO. AND WE DO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM WEST TEXAS.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM. THEY CAN EXPLAIN ANY OPERATIONAL ASPECTS TO YOU.

THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR.

MAYOR NELSON, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER MILLER, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS ORDINANCE REQUEST THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU.

AS MENTIONED, MR. CODY COWLING, HE'S OUR AREA NORTH REGION AREA MARKETING MANAGER.

HE'S HERE AS WELL TODAY REPRESENTING OUR COMPANY.

MY NAME IS J.J. KING.

I'M OUT OF OUR CORPORATE OFFICE IN MIDLAND, TEXAS.

AND WE HAVE JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT OUR COMPANY, NOT ONLY STATEWIDE, BUT ALSO IN THIS AREA. WE HAVE BEEN IN THE AMARILLO AREA SINCE THE EARLY 1980S.

WE ARE A REGULATED UTILITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS SINCE 1976, SERVING APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 30,000 CUSTOMERS, BOTH IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS WELL, AS WELL AS THE PANHANDLE OF OKLAHOMA AND SOUTHWEST KANSAS.

SO THAT GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF WHO WE ARE.

WE HAVE 36 INCORPORATED CITIES THAT WERE THE LDC OR THAT WE PROUDLY SERVE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. WE HAVE SEVEN MORE IN THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA THAT WE SERVE PRIMARILY IN THE PANHANDLE AND WESTERN PART OF OKLAHOMA.

AND THE BIGGER AREAS THAT WE SERVE, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW SOME OF THE BIGGER AREAS THAT WE SERVE, THE MORE LARGER SERVICE AREAS.

WE SERVE AREAS IN SAN ANTONIO, LARGER AREAS IN SAN ANTONIO, SOUTH PART OF AUSTIN, ALONG 130 THERE, DOWN TO NORTH OF NEW BRAUNFELS AREA.

WE'RE SERVING THOSE AREAS.

WE SERVE AREAS IN LUBBOCK, TEXAS.

AND THEN FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA, BACK IN THE EARLY TO MID EIGHTIES, WE STARTED GROWING IN SOUTH PART OF AMARILLO FROM BASICALLY, LET'S JUST CALL IT SANTEE ROAD DOWN TO CANYON.

AND SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE GROWN AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY IS OUR GROWTH.

AND YOUR GROWTH HAVE BUTTED US UP AGAINST THE INCORPORATED CITY LIMITS OF AMARILLO AND WHERE OUR SERVICE LINES MEET.

AND OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WE'VE GROWN.

YOU'VE GROWN. IT'S A GREAT THING.

AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DEVELOPERS, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS REACH OUT TO US ASKING IF WE COULD SERVE CUSTOMERS INSIDE THE INCORPORATED CITY LIMITS OF AMARILLO.

AND AGAIN, OUR SYSTEMS ARE BUTTING UP AGAINST THE CORPORATE AREAS HERE IN THE CITY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THAT'S AT.

IT'S PRIMARILY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF AMARILLO, SOUTHEAST, SOUTH, SOUTHWEST WEST SIDES OF YOUR INCORPORATED AREAS.

WE HAVE A LIKE I MENTIONED WHILE AGO, WE'VE HAD A LOCAL AND REGIONAL OFFICE HERE IN AMARILLO SINCE THE EARLY 1980S.

WE HAVE A REGIONAL OFFICE HERE NOW.

IT'S RIGHT OFF OF 2020 219, AND WE EMPLOY APPROXIMATELY 25 PEOPLE THERE AT THAT REGIONAL OFFICE HERE IN AMARILLO.

SO WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE.

ONE OF OUR BIG AREAS OF SERVICE, AS WELL AS THE LOCAL DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM WE SERVE, IS THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY NORTH OF AMARILLO.

WE SERVE A LARGE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO IRRIGATION, COTTON GINS, FEEDLOTS, ALL SORTS OF AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS NORTH OF AMARILLO, THAT THAT REQUIRES US TO HAVE A A LARGE PRESENCE IN THE TEXAS PANHANDLE.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OF OUR COMPANY IDEAS. WE HAVE CONCERNS YOU MAY HAVE.

WE'RE EXCITED TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE GROWING BECAUSE YOU'RE GROWING AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THIS ORDINANCE PASSED SO THAT WE CAN START DOING SOME BUSINESS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.

THANK YOU, JJ. QUESTIONS? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING EXPANDING OR COMING INTO AMARILLO.

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WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DEVELOPERS, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS, AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPERS REACH OUT TO US THAT WE HAVE DONE BUSINESS WITH IN THE PAST AND THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY TALKING TO, TO DO BUSINESS WITH NOT ONLY IN THIS AREA BUT IN OTHER AREAS OF PART OF THE STATE THAT'S COMING TO AMARILLO TO DO BUSINESS.

AND AGAIN, IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LEGALLY DO BUSINESS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF AMARILLO, WE NEED THIS FRANCHISE TO DO THAT.

SO SO SO MAYOR, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY OR NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE, I'M TRYING TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD AND THINK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT I THAT I COULD POTENTIALLY SEE.

SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GAS UTILITIES HERE IN AMARILLO, WHICH WHICH WE WOULD HAVE ATMOS ENERGY AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE WEST TEXAS GAS.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

SO HOW DOES, I MEAN, I'M NOT QUITE UNDERSTANDING HOW THAT WORKS.

SO NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE LIKE OUR CITIZENS WOULD HAVE A CHOICE TO EITHER GO WITH WEST TEXAS GAS OR ATMOS ENERGY OR HOW DOES THAT? HAVE A CHOICE. I MEAN, UNLESS THEY WOULDN'T HAVE A CHOICE, IT WOULD BE UNREALISTIC AND NOT FEASIBLE FOR EITHER COMPANY, ANY COMPANY TO INSTALL INFRASTRUCTURE WHERE ANOTHER COMPANY ALREADY HAS INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALL THE CUSTOMERS.

IT'S NOT LIKE CABLE.

YEAH, IT'S NOT LIKE CABLE OR CELL SERVICE OR ANY OTHER UTILITY.

AND SO YOU'VE GOT FRANCHISES.

RIGHT. THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING, BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE I'M SURE THERE'S SOME CITIZENS, YOU KNOW, WATCHING US THAT, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE THE SAME CONNECTIONS, TOO. SO HE MENTIONED DEVELOPERS.

IF A DEVELOPER ANNEXED OR REQUESTED AN AREA BE ANNEXED AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE A DEAL WITH THAT DEVELOPER TO BE THE GAS PROVIDER INSIDE THAT AREA, THEY WOULD BE THE GAS PROVIDER INSIDE THAT AREA.

THAT'S WHO THE RESIDENT WOULD.

THAT'S WHO THAT'S WHO THE GAS PROVIDER WOULD BE.

I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT'S WHO THEIR CHOICE WOULD BE, BUT THAT'S WHO THEIR GAS PROVIDER WOULD BE. JUST LIKE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU MOVE INTO A HOUSE RIGHT NOW AND YOU HAVE GAS AT YOUR HOUSE, YOUR CHOICE IS ATMOS, RIGHT? I'VE NEVER HAD A, I'VE ONLY I'VE NEVER HAD MULTIPLE GAS COMPANIES INSIDE A CITY.

I KNOW A LOT OF CITIES DO BECAUSE OF THE WAY THEY GROW.

SO I'M NOT SAYING ONE WAY IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER.

I'M JUST SAYING YOU ONLY HAVE ONE CHOICE WITH GAS.

THEORETICALLY, IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE, BUT NOBODY'S GOING TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT. AND AS MR. MILLER IS SAYING, HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

I WOULD I WOULD CLASSIFY IT AS AREAS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT.

YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO GET INTO, PROVIDED THAT THE DEVELOPER OR THE BUILDER WANT TO UTILIZE OUR SERVICES IN THOSE AREAS, WE ABSOLUTELY CANNOT, YOU KNOW, GO DIG UP STREETS AND ALLEYS IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN AND COMPETE WITH THE LDC PROVIDER HERE RIGHT NOW TO DO THOSE THINGS.

SO AS MR. MILLER SAID, EXACTLY RIGHT IN AREAS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, PRIMARILY, LIKE I SAID, WHERE OUR SYSTEMS ARE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SOUTHEAST, SOUTHWEST, WEST SIDE OF THE CITY OF AMARILLO. WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN RECENTLY ASKED ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE AS WELL.

SO JUST, YOU KNOW, AREAS OF NEW DEVELOPMENT.

EXACTLY. GOOD QUESTION.

OKAY. YEAH, I WAS JUST I WAS CONCERNED BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT WORKS, WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK GOING DOWN THE ROAD.

SO. AND TO GIVE YOU SOME REFERENCES, WE WE COMPETE WITH TEXAS GAS SERVICE IN THE AUSTIN AREA. SAME SITUATION WITH ATMOS IN LUBBOCK, SAME SITUATION WITH CENTERPOINT AND CPS AND CENTREX AND SEVERAL OTHER COMPANIES AND SAN ANTONIO.

SO THERE'S OTHER AREAS.

WE DO THE EXACT SAME THING.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE EMOTION.

YES. I MOVED TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NUMBER 7992.

WEST TEXAS GAS FRANCHISE.

LET'S SEE. HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT.

GRANTING TO WEST TEXAS GAS UTILITY LLC, A TEXAS LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY WITH ITS PRINCIPAL OFFICE IN THE CITY OF MIDLAND IN MIDLAND COUNTY, TEXAS.

THE FRANCHISE AND RIGHTS TO CONDUCT IN AMARILLO.

THE BUSINESS OF ACQUIRING, MAINTAINING, CONSTRUCTING, LAYING.

REPAIRING, REMOVING, REPLACING, INSTALLING, OPERATING AND DISPOSING OF OF A GAS SYSTEM FOR THE SALE, TRANSPORTATION AND DISTRIBUTION OF NATURAL GAS WITHIN THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY AND TO THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES LOCATED THERE IN FOR LIGHT, HEAT, POWER AND ANY OTHER PURPOSES IN THE RIGHT TO USE THE PRESENT AND FUTURE STREETS, ROADS, HIGHWAYS, ALLEYS, PUBLIC WAYS IN REAL PROPERTY IN SUCH CITY AND OWNED OR CONTROLLED BY SUCH CITY FOR SUCH PURPOSES, PRESCRIBING THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS TO WHICH SUCH FRANCHISE AND RIGHTS ARE SUBJECT, AND PRESCRIBING THE TERMS OF SUCH FRANCHISE AND RIGHTS. SECOND, I THINK YOU DREW THE LONG STRAW ON THAT ONE.

SHE DREW THE SHORT STRAW.

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ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION COUNCIL? IS THERE ANY DOWNSIDE TO THIS? WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? IS THERE ANY DOWNSIDE TO THIS? I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.

I MEAN, I CAN SEE DOWNSIDE TO NOT DOING IT WITH REGARD TO GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY. I THINK IT DEPENDS ON WHO YOU TALK TO.

UTILITY PROVIDERS WILL MAKE A VERY COMPELLING CASE THAT AND I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH IT, THAT WHEN YOU HAVE ONE PROVIDER TO WORK WITH, YOU HAVE A MUCH BETTER ABILITY TO CONTROL

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I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S CORRECT OR INCORRECT.

THERE MIGHT BE OTHER ARGUMENTS THAT WOULD THAT WOULD LEND TO THAT.

BUT I DON'T I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S THE REASON NOT TO DO IT.

AND I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO BE CONSTRUED AS NOT NOT HAVING A GOOD PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR EXISTING GAS COMPANIES.

SO DOES ATMOS ENERGY HAVE ANY CONCERNS? IT WOULD BE MY QUESTION.

NOT BEING AN APPLICANT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE.

HERE'S WHAT I WOULD SAY.

WHAT THE I GUESS THE AND THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE RIGHT TERM.

BUT BUT MAYBE THE CONTEMPLATION THAT YOU WANT TO DO, THE HESITANCY, MAYBE THAT'S A GOOD WORD FOR THIS IS WELL IS COMPLETELY FOUNDED.

AND THAT IS WHY THE OUR PROCESS IS SET UP TO ALLOW FOR THOSE KINDS OF CONCERNS TO COME TO CITY COUNCIL AND THEN TO BE DISCUSSED AGAIN AT SOME POINT AS TO WHAT THOSE CONCERNS MIGHT BE. I THINK WE'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, THERE'S COMPETITION AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF ONE CITY. ALL OF THOSE THINGS COULD BE THERE COULD BE PROS AND CONS TO THOSE THINGS.

BUT I THINK THAT YOU'LL HAVE THE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THAT AND ANALYZE THAT BEFORE YOU FINALIZE THIS FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.

SO THERE IS NO DOUBT OF IT.

THAT'S THAT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU HAVE A WAITING PERIOD AND YOU HAVE A PUBLICATION PERIOD SO THAT NOT JUST THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN THIS ROOM HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS MATTER AND TO BRING THIS TO COUNCIL SO THAT COUNCIL CAN ADEQUATELY WEIGH THOSE CONCERNS.

SO YOUR CONCERNS ARE VERY VALID.

OKAY. SO WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT SEE? YOU KNOW, THE USUAL IS WE PASS THIS AND IT UNLESS IT DOESN'T PASS WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE, IT AUTOMATICALLY GOES ON CONSENT.

SO WOULD THIS BE SOMETHING THAT MAY BE WE JUST GO AHEAD AND PULL OFF OF CONSENT SO WE CAN MAYBE HAVE A FINAL DISCUSSION? I'M JUST. WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT? I THINK I WOULD, YEAH.

LET'S DO THAT BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

YEAH, A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION IS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, TOO, BECAUSE THIS IS KIND OF A FIRST. YEAH.

OKAY. ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT, MR. CITY MANAGER? NO, MA'AM.

NOT AT ALL. GREAT.

WHAT ABOUT BRIAN? ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT? NONE AT ALL. OKAY.

I WAS LOOKING I WAS REALLY LOOKING AT COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH AND.

OH, SORRY. HERE WE ARE SITTING IN A LINE, STANLEY.

SO I WAS WONDERING WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS WERE.

SO IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT, I MEAN, I THINK I GOT A COUPLE OF HEAD NOD DISCUSSIONS.

ALWAYS GOOD. MY MAJOR QUESTION WOULD BE AN OVERLAP.

SO AREAS OF TOWN THAT KIND OF HAVE AN OVERLAP BECAUSE OF GROWTH AND HOW GROWTH CAN KIND OF. DO CERTAIN THINGS.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY MY MAIN CONCERN IS JUST MAKING SURE WE HAVE DISTINCT BOUNDARIES AND PROTOCOLS FOR THOSE EASEMENTS.

AND I THINK WE COULD GET TO THAT PRETTY WELL THROUGH STAFF AND HOW YOU GUYS EXECUTE THIS EASEMENT OR EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT.

I GUESS FOR THE CITY, OUR PRIMARY CONCERNS ARE GOING TO BE RESPONSIVENESS TO PERMITS AND REQUIREMENTS AND COORDINATION OF RIGHT OF WAY ACTIVITIES, SAFETY OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND SYSTEM. ALL OF OUR COMPANIES ARE FAMILIAR WITH THOSE THINGS, I THINK, AND KNOW HOW TO HANDLE THEM. LIKE I SAID, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR PRIMARY CONCERN FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT. I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING, KYLE, IF I DID, PLEASE OR.

I'M REFERENCING A PERSON WHO'S ALREADY LEFT THE ROOM.

SO I'M SORRY ABOUT. OKAY WITH THAT.

ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANYONE OPPOSED? THAT PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

ITEM THREE IS CONSIDERATION OF RESOLUTION NUMBER 06-28-22-1.

MR. CITY MANAGER? ALL RIGHT. WE'VE GOT BRADY KENDRICK TO BRING THIS ITEM TO US.

THIS IS A JUST ONE OF THE STEPS AS AS ANY DEVELOPER ASKS FOR ANNEXATION OF PROPERTY.

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YEAH. SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WILL CONSIDER ALLOWING THE CITY MANAGER TO FORMALIZE THE AGREED SERVICE PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY OWNER AND INITIATED ANNEXATION REQUEST AND ALSO SET THE DATE, TIME AND PLACE FOR THE ONE REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE PER STATE LAW.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE WILL BE A SECOND READING AS WELL.

PER OUR CITY CHARTER, WE ARE PROPOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TO BE SET FOR JULY 12TH DURING CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS CONSIDERATION OF THIS ANNEXATION.

THIS ANNEXATION IS A 244.97 ACRES WEST OF 34TH AND SAN SINAS AND IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED WITH A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION COMPOSED OF 569 HOMES.

THAT WILL FEATURE A VARIETY OF RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS, ALONG WITH NON RESIDENTIAL PRODUCTS AROUND THE PERIPHERY OF THIS SUBDIVISION.

A STATE LAW DOES REQUIRE THAT THE CITY AND PROPERTY OWNERS AGREE TO A SERVICE PLAN PRIOR TO IT BEING CONSIDERED.

AND THIS DOCUMENT WOULD ONLY COME INTO EFFECT AS AND IS BINDING IF THE ANNEXATION IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL AND UPON THE ANNEXATION ORDINANCES.

SECOND READING.

AND THIS AGREEMENT WAS AGREED TO AND SIGNED BY THE DEVELOPER ON JUNE 24TH.

CONSIDERING THE JUST MENTIONED STAFF DOES RECOMMEND THAT THE DATE, TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING BE SET FOR JULY 12TH, 2022 AT 1 P.M.

IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, AND THAT THE CITY MANAGER BE AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE THE AGREED SERVICE PLAN.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRADY, COUNCIL? THANK YOU, BRADY. DO WE HAVE A MOTION WITH REGARD TO ITEM THREE? YES, MAYOR.

I MOVED TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 06-28-22-1, SETTING A TIME DATE PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED ANNEXATION OF CERTAIN PROPERTY BY THE CITY OF AMARILLO, TEXAS, AND AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT SERVICE PLAN IN THE VICINITY OF SUNSET ROAD IN SOUTHWEST 34TH AVENUE.

THE DATE, TIME AND PLACE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IS SET AS JULY 12TH, 20 2022 AT 1:00 PM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS LOCATED ON THE THIRD FLOOR OF CITY HALL, 601 SOUTH BUCHANAN STREET, AMARILLO, TEXAS.

SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED BY MAYOR PRO TEM POWELL AND SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER SAUER TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NUMBER 06-28-22-1.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? THAT PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.

THE LAST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEM.

SO, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, WOULD YOU READ OUR DISMISSAL LANGUAGE, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT CLOSED SESSION, THE AMARILLO CITY COUNCIL WAS ANNOUNCED ON JUNE 28TH, 2022, AT 4:22 P.M.

UNDER THE FOLLOWING AUTHORITY SECTION 551.072 TO DISCUSS A PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE SALE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY, PUBLIC DISCUSSION OF SUCH AND NOT BEING THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY BARGAINING POSITION.

THANK YOU. WITH THAT, WE ARE ADJOURNED TO EXECUTIVE SESSION.

AND COUNCIL, I WOULD ASK THAT MAYBE WE JUST GO AHEAD AND STEP ON IN THERE.

I DON'T THINK THIS ITEM WILL TAKE VERY LONG.

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