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COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH THE NUMEROUS MEETINGS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT OUR AMARILLO TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING ON THIS ISSUE ALLOWS A.BIG TIME PRIVATE PARTNER TO PICK UP THE WORK WE'VE BEEN DOING AND SAY, YOU GUYS HAVE BUILT THIS FOUNDATION OF RELATIONSHIPS AND WE CAN COME IN AND ACTUALLY DO THE OPERATION AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND AND WE HAD, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE SUSTAIN THAT AND DO WE HAVE THE EXPERTIZE TO OPERATE THIS, AND ARE WE COMPETING WITH PRIVATE BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY THAT ALREADY OFFER THE SERVICE? I MEAN, THOSE WERE ALL GOOD CONVERSATIONS.
THE MORE WE IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM AND WE WENT OUT SAYING, WELL, COULD THIS BE PART OF THE SOLUTION? THEN WE WERE JUST GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO FINDING WHAT WE FOUND HERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE CITY MAKING A $2 MILLION INVESTMENT AND A PRIVATE PARTNER MAKING OVER A $20 MILLION INVESTMENT.
AND YET WE STILL HAVE THE CITIZENS IN NEED PAYING NOTHING.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, IT'S BEEN SO MUCH WORK, SO MUCH WORK THAT'S HAPPENED BEHIND THE SCENES, SO MANY MEETINGS, SO MANY PHONE CALLS, SO MANY REACH OUTS, SO MANY DIFFERENT TIMES THAT YOU HAD TO LET GO OF OK WE'VE BUILT THAT WHOLE MODEL, BUT NOW WE'VE GOT TO LET GO AND START, TAKE WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THERE AND START A NEW MODEL.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS JUST A COOKIE CUTTER, A SOLUTION ON DAY ONE, BUT IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
AND THIS IS A COMPLEX PROBLEM, AND YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN IT THE TIME TO PLAY OUT OVER TWO YEARS HERE.
AND I JUST THINK THE SOLUTION THAT YOU'RE GETTING IS AMAZING.
THE OTHER, THE OTHER, THE OTHER.
I GUESS THE OTHER THING ABOUT AMARILLO THAT WAS ATTRACTIVE TO THEM IS THE FACT THAT COUNCIL UNDERSTANDS THIS ISN'T A CHARITY PROJECT, IT'S A WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, THAT THIS HAS GENERATIONAL IMPACT ON THE QUALITY LEVEL OF WORKERS THAT WILL BE GENERATING AS A COMMUNITY.
I DON'T THINK THAT ALL COMMUNITIES UNDERSTOOD THAT.
AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS STEP ONE IN BUILDING A BETTER, MORE SKILLED WORKFORCE HAS HAD TREMENDOUS IMPACT, NOT JUST WITH VENDORS BUT WITH OTHER AGENCIES, WITH THE STATE, AND EVEN WITH SOME FEDERAL RESOURCES THAT HAVE REACHED OUT.
I DON'T THINK EVERY COMMUNITY HAS EMBRACED THAT AS AS AS HARD AS WE HAVE.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR LEADERSHIP AND I APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE BECAUSE IT DID CHANGE A LOT.
ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I JUST HAD ONE. THE PUBLIC WI FI SEPARATE COMPONENT OF THIS.
DO YOU KNOW, LIKE TO DATE HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT ON THAT PART OF IT? AND THEN WHAT WOULD BE OUR TOTAL ALL IN COST? WE'VE WE SET ASIDE 6 MILLION TOTAL.
WE SPENT 1.4 ON THE PUBLIC WI FI.
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AND IT'S STILL THE SAME TECHNOLOGY.IT'S STILL WI FI LIKE WE'RE IN UNDER NOW.
WE'RE KIND OF WE'RE HOLDING WE HAVEN'T FINISHED CONTRACTS.
THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPAND.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE FINAL THE FINAL SPEND, BUT WE WON'T BE ASKING FOR MORE.
MM HMM. AND THEN WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL TWO, RIGHT.
AND WE ALLOCATED SIX OUT OF THE ORIGINAL ARPA.
PUT US RIGHT AT THREE AND A HALF.
OKAY. AND THAT THAT WOULD BE, IN YOUR ESTIMATION, LIKE A GOOD OVERALL BUDGET.
YOU DON'T FORECAST SEEING ANY ANY OTHER NEEDS THAN THAT? NO, NO, WE WON'T. WE WON'T WE WON'T ASK FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS OUT OF THE SECOND TRANCHE.
THANK YOU. OUT OF THAT 6 MILLION THAT YOU GOT IN THE FIRST ROUND OF ARPA.
EXACTLY. AND IN FACT, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED OUR ORIGINAL GOALS.
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INITIALLY, WE WERE GOING TO OUT OF THE ARPA FUNDS, WE WERE GOING TO USE 6 MILLION FROM THE FIRST GROUP AND ANOTHER 6 MILLION THE SECOND GROUP, WHICH WE DON'T NEED TO USE IT ALL WE CAN USE FOR OTHER CORRECT OTHER THINGS.YEAH. THERE ARE OTHER GOOD PROJECTS THAT WE CAN FUND.
AND YOU THOUGHT, OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE TO, BECAUSE THE IDEA AT FIRST WAS WE COULD INVEST THOSE ARPA DOLLARS AND THEN WE WOULD GET A RETURN ON THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE WE COULD COLLECT IN OPERATING THAT NETWORK, WE COULD HAVE SOME USER FEES.
AND BUT THEN THIS OPTION STARTED TO OPEN UP AND YOU GUYS WERE WILLING TO ADAPT YOUR PLAN.
AND SO YOU'RE RIGHT, HOWARD, WE'RE SPENDING LESS MONEY THAN WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.
AND WE'RE GETTING A GOOD A GREAT PRODUCT, A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT THAN WE COULD HAVE BUILT ON OUR OWN.
JUST ECONOMIES OF SCALE AND FULL TRANSPARENCY.
NOR COULD WE HAVE DELIVERED FIVE, YOU KNOW, THE CAPABILITY OF FIVE GIGABIT DOWNLOAD SPEED.
WE CAN'T WE JUST CAN'T MATCH THAT.
AND SO, RICH, YOU TALKED ABOUT DOZENS OF PARTNERS.
WE DO HAVE DOZENS OF PARTNERS IN THE GRAND VISION OF THIS WAS EXPANDING IT OUTSIDE THE CITY.
JUST TALK FOR A MINUTE ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING THERE.
SO AS I SAID, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AN IMPACT BROADBAND REGION 16 OH GOODNESS.
I DON'T WANT TO FORGET ANYONE.
AND WE HAVE SOME VENDORS STEPPING FORWARD THAT ARE INTERESTED IN FUNDING A COUPLE OF PILOT CITIES.
SO THE GOAL IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF COUNCILS IS TO BE BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ANNOUNCING WHAT THOSE CITIES ARE, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DRIVE TOWARD HAVING THEM ONLINE AND HAVING PEOPLE CONNECTED BY OCTOBER OF THIS FALL.
I DON'T WANT TO BE TURNING DIRT.
SO THE RULES FOR SUBMITTING PROJECTS FOR THAT TRANCHE OF MONEY FROM THE STATE WILL COME OUT IN JULY. SO WE'LL START WORKING ON THAT IN JULY.
AND I BELIEVE THE DEADLINE IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN OCTOBER FOR FUNDING.
I DON'T KNOW THE DEADLINE YET.
THEY HAVEN'T PUBLISHED IT, BUT I'M GUESSING SOMEWHERE AROUND THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEN WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER FUNDS WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND JUST START REPLICATING THAT MODEL ACROSS COMMUNITIES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OK RICH THANK YOU.
AMARILLO LOCAL GOVERNMENT CORPORATION.
SO COUNCILMEMBER SMITH OR COUNCIL MEMBER STANLEY HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT? GO AHEAD. SURE. SO I'D SAY PRIMARILY LIKE BUSINESS AS USUAL, JUST TAKING CARE OF THE CHECKLIST, DOUBLE CHECKING A FEW THINGS, GOING OVER A FEW PLANS. AND THEN THE LAST MEETING, I'D SAY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THING THAT CAME OUT OF THAT WAS THE DISCUSSION OF RAISING THE PARKING FEES TWO DOLLARS UP TO POSSIBLY THREE OR FOUR.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GET A REPORT BACK ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE IF YOU INCREASE THOSE PARKING FEES, WHAT THAT DOES TO HELP KIND OF OFFSET ANY KIND OF SHORTAGE FOR THE CARRYING COSTS AND OVERHEAD OF THAT BUILDING.
YES, MA'AM. SO PARKING GARAGE.
WE HAD UPDATES ON HODGE TOWN, REALLY GOOD UPDATES ON ON HODGE TOWN AND THE PERFORMANCE AND THE STATS AND AND WHERE THEY RANKED NATIONALLY AND TICKET SALES AND CUSTOMERS.
LIKE FINANCIAL UPDATES AND JUST..
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HEAVILY ATTENDED.SO WE'RE DOING GOOD ON HODGE TOWN.
ANYTHING TO ADD. COUNCIL MEMBER SMITH.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL ABOUT LGC BUSINESS OR THANK YOU GUYS VERY MUCH.
THE NEXT IS CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU COUNCIL.
AS THE MAYOR, PRO TEM POWELL, FOR A REPORT THERE.
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THE CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU.THEY ARE ALWAYS DOING GREAT THINGS OVER THERE FOR OUR CITY.
THE CVB BOARD APPROVED THE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THIS YEAR THE GRANTS TOTALED $80,450 AND THEY SUPPORTED 11 ORGANIZATIONS ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
THE NATIONAL TRAVEL AND TOURISM WEEK WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.
THEY HAD A MUSEUM DAY, THEY HAD AIRPORT STAFF, APPRECIATION, BREAKFAST AND A WEEK LONG WELCOME TABLE FOR VISITORS, FAMILIARIZATION TOURS FOR MEETING PLANNERS, PARTNER VISITS TO HOTELS AND ATTRACTIONS.
THEY ALSO LAUNCHED LOCAL AMBASSADORS PROGRAM, AND THIS WAS PROJECT BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
THEY HAD THE ROUTE 66 PROMOTIONS TO SUPPORT THEIR EVENTS FOR THE WEEK AND THEN OUR ICONIC BOOTS.
SO THE ICONIC BOOT LABEL PIN HAS BEEN AN UPGRADE.
THEY ARE NOW RED AND METAL INSTEAD OF PLASTIC, SO I LOVE IT TO BETTER MATCH THE BRAND.
SO THE CVB GIVES OUT MORE THAN 50,000 OF THESE PINS ON A YEARLY BASIS.
2021 AMARILLO TOURISM NUMBERS HAVE BEEN RELEASED FROM THE STATE TOURISM OFFICE.
SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 947.3 MILLION IN VISITORS.
FOR DIRECT SPENDING, WE HAVE 8.4 THOUSAND JOBS DIRECTLY RELATED TO TOURISM, AND WE HAVE 32.5 MILLION TAX DOLLARS PROVIDED BY VISITORS. OCCUPANCY FOR THE CITY OVERALL IS DOWN YEAR TO DATE.
HOWEVER, AS OF THE END OF APRIL 2022, HOTEL REVENUE IS UP BY OVER 2.7 MILLION COMPARED TO 2021 AND 9.6 MILLION COMPARED TO 2019.
AND SO I KNOW THAT KASHION IS IN THE AUDIENCE, SO I WOULD CERTAINLY WELCOME ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THAT SHE WOULD LIKE TO ADD FROM HER DEPARTMENT AND STAFF, BECAUSE THEY ARE THEY'RE REALLY DOING AN AWESOME JOB.
YEAH. KASHION SMITH, DIRECTOR OF OUR CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF FUN THINGS GOING ON COMING OUT OF COVID.
YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS ALMOST NOW SINCE WE'VE REALLY.
CRASHED. I GUESS IT FELT LIKE A CRASH AND BURNED THERE FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
THIS MORNING WE HAD A SOFTBALL TEAM GETTING READY TO GO TO A TOURNAMENT.
THEY CAME AND PICKED UP 100 TO PASS OUT TO OTHER KIDS WHENEVER THEY HIT TOWN.
SO WE DO A LOT OF MISSIONARIES AND TOURNAMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT COMMUNICATION LINE HAS BEEN SPECTACULAR IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT WE WERE SO LOW IN 2020, I THINK I DIDN'T PULL THE NUMBER, BUT I BELIEVE WE WERE 36% DOWN FOR THAT YEAR AND THEN TO COME IN LAST YEAR AND OVER EXCEED ANY PREVIOUS YEAR, WE WERE EXPECTING THIS YEAR TO BE ONE TO HOLD ON TO.
AND WE KNEW OCCUPANCY PROBABLY WASN'T GOING TO BE THE WAY TO DO THAT.
SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE GAUGING OUR SUCCESS ON THIS YEAR IS HOW WE END THE YEAR WITH OVERALL REVENUE AND WE'RE ON TRACK TO DO THAT AND EXCEED LAST YEAR'S REVENUE. SO THAT IS GOOD NEWS FOR US, ESPECIALLY GOING INTO SUMMER.
WE KNOW THOSE ARE OUR BUSIEST MONTHS.
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AND KEVIN'S NOT IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, BUT I WAS GOING TO BRAG ON THE EDC A LITTLE BIT TOO, BECAUSE FREDA BROUGHT UP OUR OVERALL TAXES FROM VISITORS EVERY YEAR, I GET TO PROUDLY SAY THAT VISITORS PROVIDE 60% OF OUR TAXES AND THAT'S ALWAYS OR OUR BAR SALES TAX, AND THAT'S BEEN ACCURATE.FOR THE TEN YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THE OFFICE, IT'S ALWAYS FLUCTUATED BETWEEN 59 AND 61% .
FOR 2021, WE ACTUALLY CAME IN AT ABOUT 40%.
SO THE EDC HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.
THE STIMULUS PROGRAMS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE CITY, THE CITY BEING OPEN, SIGNS AND PROGRAMS THAT HAPPEN DURING SOME OF THE SHUTDOWNS AND JUST THE FRIENDLY BUSINESS THAT WENT ON, I THINK IS A REFLECTION OF THAT.
BUT I THINK OVERALL THE SPENDING OF THE VISITORS WAS VERY IMPRESSIVE STILL.
I CAN TOUCH ON A THOUSAND THINGS, BUT THAT'S JUST MY QUICK UPDATE.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU KASHION. I'M CURIOUS.
JUST REMIND ME AGAIN HOW MUCH OF OUR GENERAL FUND IS FUNDED BY SALES TAX DOLLARS IS AROUND 30%.
THAT'S JUST UNDER BETWEEN 50 AND $60 MILLION.
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SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT'S ABOUT 30%.SO IF OUR SALES TAX NUMBERS PAY FOR 30% OF WHAT WE NEED TO PAY FOR OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, THEN 60% OF THAT 30% IS COVERED BY PEOPLE WHO ARE VISITING OUR CITY.
RIGHT. THAT'S DOING THE MATH THERE.
SO THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DISCOUNT.
$50 MILLION WOULD BE 30 MILLION.
YEAH. SO 30 MILLION THAT OUR PROPERTY TAX PAYERS DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY AND 30 MILLION THAT OUR LOCAL AMARILLO RESIDENTS DIDN'T PAY.
SO, YES, YOU GUYS KEEP HANDING OUT THOSE RED BOOT PINS AND INVITING PEOPLE TO COME OUT.
I WAS IN AND OUT OF THE CITY OVER THE WEEKEND AND HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH A CITIZEN FROM THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS IN OUR CITY. AND SHE WAS NAMING THEY DID THIS AND THEY DID THAT.
AND THEY REALLY JUST DRIVING DOWN I-40 AND GOT OFF WITH THEIR THEIR TWO TEENAGE BOYS.
AND I SAID, WELL, HOW LONG DID YOU STAY IN AMARILLO? SHE SAID, WE STAYED THREE NIGHTS AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS AWESOME.
SO I JUST MADE ME PROUD OF YOUR TEAM AND THE WORK THAT Y'ALL ARE DOING.
WE KNOW THAT'S OUR BREAD AND BUTTER.
WE KNOW WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THAT.
BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES JUST MENTALLY IN OUR STAFF THROUGHOUT THIS WAS TO SET THE GOAL OF WE OF COURSE, ARE GOING TO SUPPORT THE PASS THROUGH TRAFFIC, BUT WE ARE A DESTINATION AND WE NEED PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT WE'RE A DESTINATION.
AND WE REALLY THINK THAT IT'S WORKING FOR US.
IT'S A MARKET GROWTH OPPORTUNITY FOR US.
HOW CAN WE HELP IN THAT MESSAGE? WEAR THE RED BOOTS, BUT THE RED BOOT STICKERS ON YOUR CAR.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING READY TO START SOME INITIATIVES AND DISCUSSIONS ON THE GATEWAYS.
AND THE GOAL REALLY IS TO BRING IN THE GUINNESS BOOK OF WORLD RECORDS AND HAVE THE BIGGEST BOOTS, YOU KNOW, SO YOU KNOW THAT YOU'VE ARRIVED WHENEVER YOU HIT THOSE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS. BE WATCHING FOR THAT AND SUPPORTIVE AND HELP CARRY THAT MESSAGE.
CHRISTY STARTED THE PROJECT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WHICH IS LOCAL AMBASSADORS.
WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY BRANDING THOSE AS OUR OFFICE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S OUR PROJECT.
WE REALLY WANT THAT CIVIC PRIDE, SO WE REALLY WANT THE VISITORS TO FEEL.
AND IT'S FUNNY HOW SO MANY OF OUR VISITORS AND SITE VISITS AND FANS THAT COME THROUGH AFTER THEY GET TO KNOW OUR TOWN REALLY ARE VERY RECEPTIVE TO ACTUALLY MOVING AND LIVING HERE. WE'RE A DIFFERENT KIND OF COMMUNITY, SO.
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ALL RIGHT. GREAT REPORT.MAYOR, THANKS. ALSO IMPORTANT NOTE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SALES TAX ESTIMATES.
THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL OVER $20 MILLION OF SALES TAX IS GENERATED THROUGH THOSE SAME BREAKDOWNS OF EXTERNAL PEOPLE TRAVELING TO AND THROUGH AMARILLO AND THEN LOCAL RESIDENTS THAT WE THAT THAT REPRESENTS HALF CENT OF OUR SALES TAX THAT GOES TO EDC TO FUND THEIR OPERATIONS.
SO IT'S NOT JUST THE SALES TAX THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT GET FACTORED INTO THE CITY BUDGET.
SURE. SO YEAH, WE HAVE A SMALL BUDGET, BUT WE'RE THE REASON OTHER PEOPLE THAT'S HIGH FIVING THAT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, KATHERINE, AND THANK YOU.
YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM.
ALL RIGHT. ANY REQUESTS FOR FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS OR REPORTS FROM THE CITY MANAGER? NO, MA'AM, NOT HEARING ANY.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
WE'RE GOING TO PULL ITEM TWO J AND TWO K.
ANYTHING ELSE, COUNSEL? IT NEEDS TO BE PULLED FOR FURTHER CONVERSATION.
KASHION ARE Y'ALL GOING TO STAY WHILE WE DO THE TWO J AND TWO K CONVERSATION? DO YOU MIND? YEAH.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE YOU ALL IN THE ROOM.
YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD TOO.
SO CAN WE LOOK AT TWO F WITHOUT PULLING.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT IT WITHOUT PULLING.
SURE. IF YOU'VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT TWO F.
WELL I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS AND A FEW COMMENTS AND I DON'T SEE.
I WAS HOPING THAT LLOYD WOULD BE IN HERE.
WELL, WE'VE GOT JUSTIN OPAL IN THE ROOM, AND HE'S AN ARCHITECT OF THIS.
WE ALSO HAVE YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN THE LOOP IN IT AS WELL.
SO WE CAN BRING JUSTIN OPAL UP HERE, JUSTIN.
MOST OF THIS WAS FLOYD WAS DEFINITELY IN THE LOOP.
JUSTIN WAS MANAGING THIS PROCESS AND WORKING WITH THE COLONIES TO HELP THEM FIND A WAY FORWARD.
YEAH, WELL, SO THE ONLY THING WAS, IS IT JUST SEEMED TO TURN INTO SOMEWHAT OF A FIASCO THAT A CITIZEN ASKED ME TO JUST MAKE A FEW PHONE CALLS.
AND SO WE MADE A FEW PHONE CALLS AND THEN SAW HOW THINGS PLAYED OUT.
AND HOW DO WE WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE DETAILS AND GOING THROUGH ALL THE BLOODY DETAILS OF EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED, HOW DO WE GET ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT PIDS HELP THEM UNDERSTAND EXACTLY HOW ALL OF THIS ENDS UP WORKING LIKE CONTRACTS WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THE MOWING AND WHATEVER.
AND AND I THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME WITH THESE PIDS, WHAT I FELT LIKE THAT I GOT OUT OF OUT OF THIS ONE, ESPECIALLY THE ONE WITH THE COLONIES IS, IS MANAGING WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS NEED TO BE.
AND THEN ARE THEY WILLING TO THEN CHANGE? AND I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, BUT I THINK THAT PROBABLY THOSE THAT ARE IN THE COLONIES ARE WANTING MORE.
IT OUT OF THEIR MAINTENANCE, THEN WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS ABLE TO PAY FOR.
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WHICH COULD MEAN DO THEY NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ABOUT HOW WHAT DO YOU WANT?[1.B. Discuss Homeless Services Update; ]
AND THIS IS WHAT IT COSTS AND THIS IS HOW WE GET THERE.YES, SIR. AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SOME OF THE CITIZENS IN THAT COMMUNITY SEPARATE FROM THE PID AND THE HOA, TO GO OVER OUR PROCESSES TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.
AND THAT INCLUDES GOING OVER THE BUDGET, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE LEGAL STEPS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE OR TAKE IN ORDER TO PROPERLY SECURE THESE CONTRACTS AND GET OUT OF THEM WHEN IT'S NECESSARY.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING IN BEING ON THE JOB FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALIZED THAT WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE COMMUNICATION WITH EACH OF OUR PIDS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS DEVELOPING A HANDBOOK THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE TO EACH MEMBER OF THE PID AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY TO BASICALLY OUTLINE WHAT THE PURPOSE IS, WHERE THE HOA FALLS IN LINE, AND HOW THAT RELATES TO OUR JOB WITH THE CITY AND MANAGING THOSE ASPECTS OF IT.
BECAUSE I'M NOT SAYING THAT THAT THE CITIZENS HAD SOMETHING THERE.
I WOULD HAVE HAD THE EXACT SAME EXPECTATIONS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WAS HAVING IN THERE.
BUT MANAGING THOSE EXPECTATIONS TO THIS IS WHAT ENDS UP BEING THE RESULT OF THAT.
AND OH, THIS MONEY ACTUALLY IS MANAGED BY THE CITY.
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COMPLICATED AND LONG PROCEDURE.AND I THINK IF I WAS SITTING IN THE POSITION OF THE THE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE BOARD OF THE COLONIES OR IN THE HOLE, EITHER ONE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY WANTING TO PULL MY HAIR OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO, BECAUSE IT'S LIKE WE'VE GOT TO WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS TOO, TO GET OUR STUFF TAKEN CARE OF.
AND THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THAT THAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND SO I THINK ALL THE ALL THAT TO SAY IS WHENEVER WE LOOK AT SOMETHING HINDSIGHT, WE NEED TO LOOK BACK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, SO HOW DO WE COMMUNICATE THIS BETTER WITH EVERYBODY SO WE CAN MANAGE THOSE EXPECTATIONS OR CHANGE THE FEES THAT WE'RE GOING TO COLLECT SO THAT THE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS CAN BE MANAGED AND WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDING? ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO AS WELL.
AND REALLY, THIS HAS CAUSED US TO ANALYZE A LOT OF THE ASPECTS OF THE PIT, INCLUDING THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THE BID EVALUATION ASPECT WHEN IT COMES TO THE LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, NOT JUST WITH THE COLONIES, BUT ACROSS THE.
OH, NO, NO. I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO WITH ALL OF THIS BECAUSE EVERYBODY ALL OF THESE OTHER ONES THAT ARE BEGINNING TO COME ONLINE OR ALREADY ONLINE, I'M SURE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN WE WERE IN THE GREENWAYS FOR 20 YEARS.
THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN IN WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
SO I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW DO WE GET HOW DO WE GET DOWN TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN KEEP EVERYBODY INFORMED ENOUGH SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S TRANSPIRING AND WHAT HOOPS HAVE TO BE JUMPED THROUGH? AND IT'S NOT A PRIVATE.
AND JUST I DON'T WANT TO SAY SIMPLIFY IT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M ALLUDING TO IS JUST MAKING IT MORE SIMPLE TO ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT PROCESS IS WE DO WHAT THE ACTUAL ROLE OF THE PID IS WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW THE HOA TIES INTO THAT AND REALLY TAKE OUT ALL THE GOVERNMENT LINGO AND JUST REALLY SIMPLIFY IT FOR FOLKS WHO IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES WILL BE ABLE TO JUST GIVE US A CALL AND WE CAN GUIDE THAT WAY, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.
AND THEN THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THEN NEEDS TO TAKE THAT, DISSEMINATE IT BACK TO ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL HOMES, PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THERE SO THAT THEY ALL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH OR WHAT THEY'RE WORKING THROUGH.
SO THEIR EXPECTATIONS THEY CAN UNDERSTAND.
ABSOLUTELY. AND AND THE CITY'S ROLE IN THIS IS WE DON'T GET TO MAKE REALLY ANY OF THE DECISIONS.
IT'S STRICTLY THE PID AND THE HOA, WHICH THEN MAKES IT DIFFICULT.
BUT THEY STILL THE HOA AND THE PID AND THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE PID, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW OUR RULES, THE GOVERNMENTAL RULES, BECAUSE THE MONEY IS MANAGED BY THIS BY THE MUNICIPALITY.
AND SO IT JUST CHANGES THE WHOLE SCOPE OF THINGS.
AND IT'S THIS WAS ACTUALLY A NEW REALIZATION FOR ME, REALIZING, OH.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS, BUT.
AND JUST WITH TALKING WITH STAFF, IT SEEMS THAT WE JUST IN YEARS PAST HAVE MET WITH THE PID BOARD AND GOT THE BUDGET DISCUSSED AND APPROVED.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, MORE OUTREACH FROM US TO THE CITIZENS USING THE BOARD MEMBERS ON THE PYD TO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, USE THE HOA AND THEIR NEWSLETTERS AND THEIR RESOURCES TO BRING IN MORE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WHERE IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY AND OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT SITTING WITH THE PYD, MAKING THESE DECISIONS ON IF WE'RE GOING TO RAISE THE ASSESSMENT RATE, HOW OUR BUDGET'S GOING TO LOOK FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, REALLY BRING IN MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, IS THERE? SO. AND I HOPE THAT ANSWERS.
BUT REALLY, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING ALL I'M REALLY TRYING TO DO IS JUST HAVE ANOTHER FORUM FOR SOME OF THIS INFORMATION TO GET OUT THAT IT WAS JUST A DIFFICULT SITUATION. AND IF I WAS SITTING ON THE PIT BOARD FOR THE COLONIES OR I WAS ON THE HOA FOR THE COLONIES, I WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY FRUSTRATED THAT BECAUSE I
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DIDN'T REALIZE EXACTLY HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.AND I THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS HELP THEM UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WORKS, THAT THE MONEY IS COLLECTED AND IT'S HELD BY THE CITY AND YOU ALL SET YOUR OWN AND YOU CAN SET YOUR YOUR BUDGET HOWEVER YOU WANT TO SET YOUR BUDGET.
I'M JASON BURR. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF COLONY.
JUSTIN AND FLOYD HAVE BEEN TREMENDOUS HELP GETTING THROUGH THIS.
I APPRECIATE LAURA STORRS HELP AND BLAIR SNOWE'S HELP.
THE THE PROBLEM THAT WE EXPERIENCED WAS NOT AN UNDERSTANDING PROBLEM.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE EXPERIENCED WAS A PROCUREMENT AND A RFP PROBLEM.
THE RFP THAT WE WERE PRESENTED WAS PURELY A.
HERE'S THE CHOICE YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
AND IF THEY CAN'T HANDLE IT, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT LATER.
AND THEN WHEN IT CAME TIME TO.
THERE'S NO WAY THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PULL THIS OFF.
AND. WE KNEW THAT DAY WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
IT TOOK US 14 MONTHS TO GET TO THE POINT TO MAKE THE BAD DECISION.
RIGHT. AND THEN WE'RE TEN MONTHS INTO SINCE THAT DECISION'S BEEN MADE, AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS COMPLETELY AGAIN.
AND I APPRECIATE JUST IN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND FLOYD ANALYZING HOW THESE PROCESSES CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT AND HOW CITIZENS, NOT JUST BOARD MEMBERS, BUT HOW CITIZENS CAN HAVE A PLACE TO VERBALIZE WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE AND ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT THE TIMELINES WILL BE AND GET DIRECT ANSWERS ON ARE THEY QUALIFIED TO DO THE JOB? SO WHAT I HEAR JUSTIN SAYING IS, YES, WE ARE LOOKING TO WORK ON THOSE PROCESSES AND CHANGE ANYTHING WE CAN THAT WOULD APPLY ACROSS THE BOARD TO PIDS TO MAKE THE PROCESS BETTER.
WE'RE REALLY I MEAN, WE'VE INVOLVED QUITE A FEW PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THIS SOLVED TO GO FORWARD.
THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE WE ALMOST WANT TO SLOW DOWN NEXT TIME, BUT WE'RE AFRAID TO SLOW DOWN.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE HOLDUP.
AND SO IT'S BEEN A VERY IT'S BEEN A VERY FRUSTRATING.
AND SO BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP AND EVERYBODY'S ASSISTANCE.
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, JASON. AND I JUST WANT TO BRAG ON YOU, JASON.
HE WAS VERY HELPFUL IN HAVING HELPING US UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES RELATED TO IT.
NUMBER ONE IS MAKING SURE THAT THE QUALIFICATIONS OF A VENDOR ARE THERE.
YOU ALL HAVE SUPPORTED US IN OTHER AREAS OF BEST VALUE BIDS AND HOW WE STRUCTURE THOSE BIDS.
SO WE'RE WE'RE VERY THANKFUL FOR THE PEOPLE WITH THE INPUT.
HOA PIDS ESPECIALLY MR. BURR AND HIS GROUP HELPING US GET TO THE POINT OF KNOWING HOW TO HOW THIS CAN BE BETTER AND WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND YOU'LL SEE A MUCH MORE AS AS MUCH MORE INVOLVED PROCESS WITH EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE PURCHASING PROCESS AND MUCH MORE TRANSPARENCY TO WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND WE APPRECIATE MR. BURR AND THAT GROUP HELPING US GET THERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL, DR.
SAUER, WERE YOU DONE? YEAH, YEAH, I THINK SO.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE HAD THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TALK THIS THING OUT AND UNDERSTANDING BECAUSE JUST WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING THROUGH, I CAN JUST SEE IT COULD BE COMING IN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
YES, SIR. AND SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THIS SITUATION, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH LEGAL AND PURCHASING TO REALLY DIVE IN TO SEE WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE THESE CONTRACTS IN THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, SUCH AS AS FLOYD JUST MENTIONED.
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QUICKLY AS LEGALLY POSSIBLE.OKAY. MAYOR, I MOVED TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS J AND K.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED TO APPROVE THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA MINUS ITEMS TO J AND TO K.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY I.
ANYONE OPPOSED THAT PASSES WITH THE 5-0 VOTE.
LET'S NOW MOVE ON AND TAKE UP ITEM 2 J.
ALL RIGHT, MAYOR. THANK YOU. WE'VE GOT JERRY DANFORTH, DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES, TO PRESENT THE TWO ITEMS. ITEM J WE'LL START.
THERE IS THE INSTALLATION OF WATER AND ELECTRICAL UTILITIES AT THE SANTA FE DEPOT.
CORRECT. WHAT WE'RE ADDRESSING WITH THAT UTILITY CONTRACT IN THE PAST, THE WAY THAT THE CITY HAS DONE IT IS THEY'VE ATTACHED TO THE FIRE HYDRANT TO PROVIDE WATER FOR THE LIVESTOCK, FOR THE FARM AND RANCH SHOW OR FOR THE RODEO.
AND WHEN THEY DO THAT, THE FIRE HYDRANTS LOCATION, THE HOSES HAVE TO BE RUN ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY. WE ARE ALSO IN THE SAME SCENARIO WITH POWER.
THERE IS NO POWER IN THAT AREA THAT'S AVAILABLE.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE VISITED WITH THE FARM AND RANCH WITH THE RODEO GROUP AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR NEEDS WERE AND THEN TOOK AN ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THAT PROPERTY NEEDED GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR ABOUT SIX MONTHS NOW, ACTUALLY.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE DON'T LIKE HAVING HOSES RUN OFF OF FIRE HYDRANTS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY RUPTURE, FLOOD THE ENTIRE AREA AND CAUSE QUITE A BIT OF PROBLEMS. SO WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT THAT AND SAID BASICALLY DID AN ASSESSMENT TO SEE WHAT THE BEST WAY TO ACCOMPLISH THIS IS.
WE LOOKED AT IN VISITING WITH THE RODEO GROUP ON IT.
THE WAY THAT THEY CURRENTLY SET UP THEIR TENTS AND THEIR STALLS.
THERE ENDS UP BEING FOUR ALLEYWAYS WHERE THEY NEED TO DRAG WATER DOWN.
CURRENTLY, THEY'RE DRAGGING ABOUT.
SO WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS HOW CAN WE GET WATER INTO THAT AREA AND MAKE IT A LONG TERM RESOLUTION TO AN ISSUE? THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO IS BASICALLY BORE UNDER THE STREET PAVERS AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE SANTA FE DEPOT, CONNECT TO THE WATER METER THAT'S THERE FOR THE DEPOT ITSELF.
SO THE METRIC SYSTEM ALREADY EXISTS.
WE'RE JUST DOING A TAP ON TO THE EXISTING METER, BORING AND RUNNING THOSE.
AND THEN WE'LL OPEN TRENCH CUTTING ACROSS ALONG GRANT STREET WITH FOUR FROST FREE HYDRANTS THAT ARE CONNECTED SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT DRAGGING HOSES THAT LINK. AND THAT ALLOWS US TO LEAVE IT IN THERE YEAR ROUND WITHOUT WORRY ABOUT FREEZING IT OR BUSTING IT OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT LINE.
POWER THEY DID A LOT OF THEIR OWN POWER WITH GENERATORS.
A 400 AMP, SERVICEABLE SERVICE.
WHAT THAT NEED IS IN THAT AREA.
IT ALLOWS US TO RELOCATE SOME UTILITIES THAT CURRENTLY GO TO THE OLD BAGGAGE HOUSE OF THE DEPOT, GET THOSE OUT FROM OVER THE LIVESTOCK AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS IN THAT AREA WHEN WE UTILIZE THAT AREA.
WE'RE ALWAYS COGNIZANT AND CONCERNED WHEN WE HAVE OVERHEAD POWER LINES OVER LIVESTOCK, METAL POLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHERE PEOPLE ARE WITH OUR WIND CONDITIONS AND STUFF THAT HAPPENS HERE. IF ONE OF THOSE LINES DROPS, WE COULD POTENTIALLY KILL OR HARM QUITE A BIT OF LIVESTOCK OR HUMANS.
SO WE'RE RELOCATING THAT AND GETTING THAT OUT OF THE AREA TO MITIGATE THAT SAFETY ISSUE.
QUESTION. AND SO, JERRY, THE FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT THAT'S COMING THROUGH THE 2021, 2022 CIP PROCESS, IS THAT CORRECT? NO, ACTUALLY, THIS IS OUT OF HOT TAX FUNDING.
WE WORKED WITH LAURA ON THIS ON THIS PIECE OF IT.
THE CIVIC CENTER ALREADY HAD A BUDGET SET UP FOR IT.
THEY JUST TRANSFERRED THE FUNDS FROM OUT OF THAT BUDGET TO FULLY FUND THIS.
OKAY. SO THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM? CORRECT. COUNCILMEMBER STANLEY, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES, THANK YOU.
AND FREDA, I HAD THE SAME QUESTION, SO I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH COST IT IS TO TEMPORARILY SET ALL THESE THINGS UP?
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NO, I CAN'T GIVE YOU THE COST BECAUSE WE'VE REQUIRED THE RODEO TO PICK THAT UP THEMSELVES.AND HOW MANY TIMES A YEAR DO WE HAVE TEMPORARY NEEDS? IN THAT AREA? OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE HAD IT AT LEAST TWICE, AND THAT WAS THROUGH THE COVID YEARS.
AND WHEN I SAY TWICE, I'M TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS.
BETH DUKE AND HER COMMUNITY MARKET HAVE USED THAT AREA.
RUNNING WATER AND POWER IS SOMETHING THAT SHE NEEDS OVER THERE.
SO THIS ADDRESSES WHAT SOME OF HER NEEDS ARE.
YOU WOULD SAY THERE'S A CERTAIN ASPECT OF SAFETY WITH THIS.
I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT TEMPORARY ELECTRICAL ACROSS THE DRIVEWAY, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING HORSES WITH METAL HORSE SHOES WALKING ACROSS THE ELECTRICAL CORDS, IT'S GENERALLY NOT A GOOD IDEA. OKAY.
AND IT MAY ACTUALLY GIVE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE EVER BEEN ABLE TO USE IT FOR.
BY DOING SOMETHING OF THIS NATURE.
AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE BETH HERE AND LEHMAN IS HERE FOR THE RODEO.
SO FEEL FREE TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THAT AS WELL.
BUT WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT WANTED TO USE THAT FROM TIME TO TIME.
TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD THE GROUP FROM THE BARRIO DISTRICT WANTED TO DO A CINCO DE MAYO OVER THERE.
WE HAD NO WATER, HAD NO POWER.
IT WAS A CHALLENGE, BUT IT IS A DIRT AREA.
WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT ACCOMPLISHES THAT.
SO FOR THE CIVIC CENTER, IT WAS IT WAS A GOOD SITUATION FOR THEM.
YEAH. THE BACKDROP IS PRETTY COOL, TOO.
THAT'S CORRECT. TRUE? SURE, BETH. COME ON UP.
FEEL FREE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM TWO.
KAY. ALSO, THEY KIND OF ARE RELATED.
AND I KNOW CENTER CITY PROBABLY.
AND I'VE MADE NO SECRET ONE OF MY ONE OF MY VISIONS IS TO SAVE THAT HISTORIC BUILDING.
SO TO ME, IT'S JUST A PERFECT GATHERING PLACE, MEETING PLACE.
AND I WANT TO COMMEND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ANTHONY SPANO FOR TEACHING ME HOW TO CREATE CAMP SINKS SO WE COULD HAVE ADEQUATE HANDWASHING AT MARKET. AND WE LUGGED WATER OVER AND BACK SEVERAL TIMES DURING THAT SEASON.
BUT I PUT ON A LOT OF EVENTS, 20 YEARS OF FUN, FAST, YOU NAME IT, BUT IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING TO HAVE AN EVENT WITH NO ELECTRICITY AND NO WATER.
I'VE DONE IT, BUT IN MY FAVORITE AND SO MANY PEOPLE CALL OUR OFFICE TO SAY, HOW DO I DO AN EVENT, THE SANTA FE DEPOT? AND I SAID, WELL, GETTING PERMISSION, IF YOU'RE A SOLID NONPROFIT, THAT'S PRETTY EASY.
BUT IT'S CHALLENGING BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RENT EVERYTHING AND BRING EVERYTHING IN.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT GETTING A METER AND PUTTING ON THE FIRE HOSE.
I JUST COULDN'T SEE MYSELF DOING THAT AT 630 IN THE MORNING EVER SATURDAY.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO.
I HAVE SOME GREAT IDEAS FOR EVENTS.
IF YOU GIVE ME POWER AND WATER, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JERRY THEN ABOUT ITEM TWO J.
DO WE HAVE MOTION WITH REGARD TO ITEM TWO J.
I MOVED TO APPROVE ITEM TWO J ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED TO APPROVE ITEM TWO J.
DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNCIL ABOUT IT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
THAT ITEM PASSES WITH A 5-0 VOTE.
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NOW LET'S TAKE UP ITEM 2K.HI MAYOR. ITEM TWO K BUILDS ON TO J.
LITERALLY, THIS WILL PROVIDE FUNDS TO BUILD A 200 BY 300 OR 60,000 SQUARE FOOT PAVILION ON THE FAR SOUTH SIDE, REALLY FAR SOUTH HALF OF THE SANTA FE PROPERTY.
JERRY, WALK US THROUGH IT AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
WELL, ONCE AGAIN, PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WELL, PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD WITH REGARDS TO WATER AND SEWER, I ACTUALLY ROLLED INTO THE PAVILION CONVERSATIONS WHEN WE LOOKED AT WHAT WRCA WAS SPENDING FOR TENTS TO ACTUALLY SET THEIR STALLS UP THERE.
AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT OTHER POSSIBLE EVENTS WE COULD HAVE.
OVER AT THE BIVINS PROPERTY, WE'VE GOT THE OLD TREES.
BUT WHEN YOU GO TO THIS LOCATION, THERE IS NO SHADE.
SO IT WAS SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES THAT WE LOOKED AT AND SAID, OKAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO ONCE AGAIN MITIGATE THIS ISSUE THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE? HOW DO WE HOW DO WE DO THIS? WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT OUR OPPORTUNITIES WERE WITH THAT.
WE WORKED WITH LEHMAN'S GROUP, TALKED TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEIR NEEDS COULD POTENTIALLY BE, ESPECIALLY WITH THEM BEING THE LARGEST USER OF THE CIVIC CENTER. WE FELT LIKE THEY NEEDED TO PLAY A KEY ROLE IN IT.
BETH AND HER GROUP NEEDED TO PLAY A KEY ROLE.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A GREAT WORKING RELATIONSHIP UNDERSTANDING WHAT SOME OF HER NEEDS WERE.
SO WHERE WE WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH WAS TAKING A LOOK AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT THEY ACTUALLY USE CURRENTLY FOR THE RODEO, KNOWING THAT THEY WERE GOING TO EXPAND THIS YEAR AND ACTUALLY NEED TO BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER THAN WHAT THEY WERE.
AND SO WE BASICALLY RUN THE CALCULATIONS ON THE SIZE THAT THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY NEED.
IT ENDS UP BEING ALMOST A FULL CITY BLOCK.
SO WE WENT OUT, STARTED TAKING A LOOK WHAT WOULD IT COST TO BUILD A PAVILION THAT HAS A MULTIPLE USES THAT THE CIVIC CENTER NOW HAS NEW LEASABLE SPACE THAT THEY CAN USE FOR THE COMMUNITY? WHAT WE CAME UP WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF STRUCTURES THAT ARE ENCLOSED, BUT WE DON'T HAVE OPEN STRUCTURES, BASICALLY OPEN AIR STRUCTURES.
AND IT GIVES US ANOTHER PIECE THAT WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE ENDED UP ON ON THE PAVILION.
IN DOING SO, WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT WHAT COULD IT POSSIBLY BE? THE RODEO IS HERE IN NOVEMBER.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN AMARILLO IN NOVEMBER.
THAT NORTH WIND CAN BE A BEAR.
SO WE TOOK IT A LOOK AT THE DESIGN OF IT.
WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHAT COULD WE POTENTIALLY DO, WHAT MIGHT WE NEED TO DO IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
AND IT WAS INTERESTING HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH LEHMAN AND HIS GROUP.
HE GOES, WE'LL JUST STACK HAY BALES ON THE NORTH SIDE.
AND WHAT WOULD BE JUST FINE? WELL, THAT MEANS ON THE SOUTH SIDE, MAYBE THE WEST SIDE.
WELL, WHEN WE GOT THE NORTH WIND, THAT'S THE ONE WE WANT TO GET OUT OF THE NORTH.
YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT. IT TURNS AROUND DURING THE WINTER.
OKAY. IN THE WINTERTIME WE LOOKED AT THAT AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WHAT WHAT THEIR DEAL IS TOO IS THE COMMUNITY AS THEY DRIVE UP AND DOWN THE ROAD TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE HORSES AND THE COWBOYS AND THE LIVESTOCK.
SO DO WE WANT TO CLOSE THAT? WE HAVE THE ABILITY WITH THIS STRUCTURE TO EITHER HANG TARPS OR DO AIR CURTAINS ON IT IN THE FUTURE.
WE COULD DO THE STRUCTURAL STEEL WRAP AROUND ON IT, BUT ONCE WE DO THAT, THEN WE'VE CREATED ANOTHER BUILDING LIKE WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE ICE RINK AND WE KIND OF TAKE OURSELVES BACK OUT OF THAT MARKET.
BUT THE INITIAL PIECE RIGHT NOW FOR THIS IS TO BUILD THE PAVILION, LEAVE THE DIRT GROUND, NO MEAN NO CEMENT SLAB AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND PUT THE STRUCTURE UP SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF.
THIS IS A FREE SPAN BUILDING, SO THAT MEANS THERE'S NO COLUMNS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STRUCTURE.
SO THERE'S HUGE STRUCTURAL STEEL THAT SPANS THIS.
THIS STRUCTURE WILL BE ABLE TO WITHHOLD.
WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHAT DOES THAT DO AS FAR AS THE LIFT? RIGHT NOW, THE ENGINEER SAID WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO FOOT COLUMNS, SIX FOOT DEEP.
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WE KICKED IT UP TO THREE FOOT COLUMNS, SIX FOOT DEEP JUST TO PICK UP THAT EXTRA CAPACITY.YES, MA'AM. JERRY, THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE FOR CONCRETE.
YOU JUST MENTIONED SOME PEERS.
ARE YOU SELF PERFORMING THOSE? NO, THOSE ARE ACTUALLY PART OF THE PACKAGE ITSELF.
OKAY. JUST NOT ON THEIR PROPOSAL.
NOT ON THEIR PROPOSAL, BECAUSE WE ASK THEM TO CHANGE.
YOU'LL NOTICE THESE ARE AT 20 FOOT.
MM HMM. SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE INCLUDED THAT'S NOT ON THIS BID, LIKE ELECTRICAL LIGHTING, THINGS LIKE THAT? NO, WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUT ANY OF THE LIGHTING CURRENTLY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE POLE LIGHTS THERE.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO CHANGE THOSE OUT.
OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION ON THAT.
THIS IS THE FIRST THAT I'VE HEARD OF THIS.
IS THIS THE FIRST THAT THIS HAS KIND OF COME UP TO THE COUNCIL? IT IS THE FIRST TO THE COUNCIL EXCEPT FOR THOSE THAT DEAL WITH THE CIVIC CENTER.
BASICALLY, IT WAS WHAT CAN WE DO? WHAT CAN WE DO TO ADDRESS THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED? SO BASICALLY, WE STARTED WORKING.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THIS? YOU'LL NOTICE IN THAT PACKAGE THAT THE TIMING IS LISTED THERE.
THIS IS A VERY TIGHT TIMING ON THIS PROJECT.
IN ORDER FOR US TO DELIVER THIS IN TIME FOR THE RODEO TO BE IN TOWN.
IN ESSENCE, WE'VE GOT SEVEN DAYS OF FLUFF TIME IN THIS CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT AS IT'S PRESENTED NOW.
BUT WE WON'T HIT THE TIMELINE FOR THE RODEO.
SO THE ONLY CRITERIA THAT'S TIME SENSITIVE IS JUST THE RODEO.
BUT THEN WE WOULD WE WOULD HAVE THIS BUILDING FOR MULTIPLE USES.
HAVE YOU LOOKED AT OTHER THINGS LIKE SPORTING? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IF DO YOU HAVE ANY INTENTION IN CONCRETING THIS IN.
WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE LOOKED AT IT.
WE'RE LOOKING AT AROUND BETWEEN 420 TO TO 500,000 TO CONCRETE THAT ENTIRE SLAB.
THE OTHER THING THAT THAT YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, YOU NOTICE THE EAVE HEIGHT ON THAT IS 14 FOOT SIX INCHES AT 14 SIX THAT LETS ANY ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT CAN ROLL DOWN THE INTERSTATE CAN ROLL INTO THIS STRUCTURE.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THE FARM AND RANCH SHOW COMES, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU NOTICE, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CIVIC CENTER, WHEN THE FARM AND RANCH SHOWS IN TOWN, SOME OF THE BIG EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE, THEY CAN'T GET PARKING LOT.
THAT'S RIGHT. IT'S ON THE NORTH PARKING LOT.
I'M JUST THINKING OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE MIGHT LOOK BACK ON LATER AND GO, MAN, WHY DIDN'T WE DO THAT? 20 FOOT EAVE HEIGHT WOULDN'T BE THAT COSTLY IN THE RED IRON.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT WOULD RUN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D GUESS MAYBE ANOTHER DOLLAR.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT SPAN AND WE GO THAT HEIGHT, WHERE IS IT, YOUR 200 FOOT? THAT'S THE ISSUE ON THE 20 FOOT TALL.
OKAY. THE ONLY REASON I BRING THAT UP TO THE COUNCIL IS JUST IN THE WAY OF IF YOU CONCRETED THAT FLOOR IN ONE DAY, YOU'D HAVE A MASSIVE COVER FOR OUTDOOR BASKETBALL, VOLLEYBALL, THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE OR I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR FUTURE THINGS THAT WE DO THAT ARE FAMILY FUN.
SPORT EVENTS WOULDN'T HURT ANYTHING AS FAR AS BRINGING IN DIRT.
THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU DO RIGHT NOW.
YOU BRING IN YOU TRUCK IN DIRT FOR THE RCA.
THAT'S CORRECT. THAT CURRENTLY TAKES PLACE.
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THE DRIVING FACTOR FOR EVE HEIGHTS RIGHT NOW IS IS BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES.IF YOU'RE COMING IN WITH A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, YOU HAVE TO CLEAR A BRIDGE IN AN OVERPASS.
AND AT 14/6, WE CLEAR BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES.
IF YOU'RE COMING IN WITH SOMETHING TALLER THAN THAT, WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SHEET IN THE END CAPS SO WE COULD BRING SOMETHING TALLER IN THE END CAP AND A CENTER FEED.
SO WE WOULDN'T TYPICALLY BE THAT LOW, BUT WE ALSO WOULDN'T BE 200 FOOT WIDE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN TAKING A BETTER LOOK AT THAT SO THAT WE WOULDN'T LOOK BACK, YOU KNOW, MONTHS FROM NOW AND SAY, WELL, WOW, WE REALLY COULD HAVE GONE JUST FOUR FEET.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY REACH OUT AND GET A PRICE ON FAIRLY EASILY JUST TO GO FROM 14, 6 TO 20 FOOT, CORRECT? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
CAN I ASK, MAYOR, IS THAT ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD BE INTERESTED IN? WELL, I THINK WE'LL SEE WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE THINKS.
TIMELINE, I THINK IS IMPORTANT.
SO THAT'S DEFINITELY WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYBODY ABOUT TIMELINE.
SO I THINK ADDING THE CONCRETE FLOOR IS SOMETHING I'M VERY INTERESTED IN, WHETHER THAT'S MOMMAS PUSHING STROLLERS THROUGH A MARKET, BETH, OR, YOU KNOW, KIDS THAT WE WANT TO BE DOING A VOLLEYBALL TOURNAMENT OR A THREE ON THREE TOURNAMENT OUTSIDE OR SOMETHING.
SO I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SPACE.
SO I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE NOT DELAY BECAUSE WE HAVE ASKED THE RODEO TO, AND I REALLY WOULD LOVE IT LEHMAN IF YOU DON'T MIND COMING TO THE PODIUM JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW A FACILITY LIKE THIS IMPACTS YOUR EVENT AND WHETHER OR NOT IT'S AN IMPORTANT ADD TO YOUR EVENT? I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING FOR THE COUNCIL TO HEAR BEFORE WE.
YES. HAPPY TO OFFER ANY INFORMATION THAT COULD BE VALUABLE TO THIS DECISION.
IT IS AN IMPORTANT DECISION BECAUSE IT'S NOT THIS BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
AND FOR FROM OUR SPECIFIC USE, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU JUST PASSED A MINUTE AGO ON ADAM JAY THAT THAT IS A MAJOR HELP TO PUTTING ON ANY FORM OF ACTIVITY IN THAT SPACE.
THIS ITEM THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE COVERED PAVILION.
WE HAVE USED THAT AREA WITH A TEMPORARY STALLING SYSTEM THAT REQUIRES TENTS TO BE PLACED UP.
AND THE WAY THAT'S DONE IS THOSE TENTS CAN HAVE SO MANY STALLS UNDER THEM, AND YOU HAVE TO PUT THREE OF THOSE IN THAT SPACE. WELL, IF YOU'VE EVER ERECTED A 200 BY 150 TENT, THERE'S A LOT OF POLES AND STAKES THAT GO OUT.
THERE'S A LOT OF WASTED SPACE.
SO YOUR USER CAPACITY OF THAT AREA IS DIMINISHED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO PUT A TENT UP.
SO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH IS TREMENDOUS.
BUT I WOULD BE HESITANT TO TRY TO SAY, RUSH, THAT THAT'S NOT WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
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FOR 2022.SO I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION OR NOT, BUT NUMBER ONE, IT'S AN EXTREMELY VALUABLE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO BUILD AND WE WOULD SUPPORT IT BEING DONE CORRECTLY.
DOES IT IMPROVE YOUR EVENT LEHMAN TO HAVE THAT FACILITY?
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IT IMPROVES THE EVENT IN TWO WAYS QUALITY AND QUANTITY.SO FROM A QUALITY STANDPOINT, WE'RE PROUD OF AMARILLO, RIGHT? WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT WE PRESENT TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME TO TOWN AND TEMPORARY STALLING AND ABOVE GROUND WATER LINES THAT FREEZE AND BUST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND FLOOD STALLS.
AND THAT'S NOT THE QUALITY THAT AMARILLO WANTS TO PRESENT TO PEOPLE COMING TO TOWN.
THIS VENUE ENHANCES THE QUALITY EXPERIENCE OF OUR VISITORS.
THE QUANTITY ASPECT IS WHAT I MENTIONED.
I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THE STALL CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE IS 176 STALLS.
OUR STALL AND CAPACITY FOR 2022 IS 204.
SO THE LAST TIME I DID THE MATH, 204 IS BIGGER THAN 176 MAYOR SO 2022.
WE DO HAVE A CAPACITY ISSUE ALREADY.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SELF RESTRICTED TO THE NUMBER OF ENTRIES THAT CAN COME TO THIS EVENT.
MORE PEOPLE. MORE OVERALL INCOME FOR TECH.
THANK YOU. SO, GERRI, AT THE 14 FOOT HEIGHT.
CAN WE DO VOLLEYBALL AND BASKETBALL THERE? I MEAN, MAYBE I'M NOT ENVISIONING.
WELL, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS EVE HEIGHT.
AND SO SORRY TO SAY ONE MORE TIME.
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS EVE HEIGHT.
OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING.
NO, WE'RE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THAT.
WE'LL HIT WHAT MR. STANLEY'S TALKING ABOUT IN THE CENTER OF THE BUILDING AT THE OUTSIDE EDGES.
NO, WE'RE NOT. WE'RE 14 FOOT AND IT INCREASES ALMOST A FOOT EVERY TEN FEET IS ABOUT WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO IF I WANT TO MAKE THAT BASELINE TO BASELINE PASS FOR THAT LAST 2/2 SHOT ON THE CLOCK.
YEAH. AND DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SET THAT UP FOR IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO BASKETBALL OR VOLLEYBALL, THE CENTER SECTION OF IT WOULD BE PLENTY HIGH. BUT IF YOU WANT TO COMPLETELY FILL THE COMPLEX LIKE MR. SANDLEY IS TALKING ABOUT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THOSE THOSE EAVE HEIGHTS UP.
SO, MAYOR, IF I COULD YOUR 14 AND A HALF FOOT EVE HEIGHT, THAT'S PROBABLY MAYBE 11 FOOT IN THE CLEAR ON THE BOTTOM OF THAT RED IRON FLANGE AS IT COMES UP TO THAT TAPERED COLUMN.
JUST GUESSING. RIGHT NOW, I'M TAKING A LOOK AT THAT ENGINEER BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE BOAT PATTERN IS.
SO KEEP IN MIND YOU YOU HAVE IN THIS DESIGN, IF WE DO A 14 FOOT SIX EAVE HEIGHT AND I THINK IT SHOWS IT ON THE DESIGN, DON'T WE HAVE A DRAWING? YEAH.
SO MAYOR WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS ON THE INSIDE OF THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE, BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONCRETE THIS WHOLE THING IN, YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE 25 OR 30,000 SQUARE FOOT OF USABLE SPACE AND HAVE 60,000 SQUARE FOOT OF CONCRETE.
WE COULD PROBABLY TRIPLE OUR COURT CAPACITY WITH 20 FOOT HEIGHT AND REALLY 25 WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
SO IF WE COULD GO 25 AND I WOULDN'T DIRECT YOU, BUT IF COUNSEL SO DIRECTED YOU TO BRING BACK PRICING AT 20 OR 25, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A BUDGET COMPARISON ON WHERE YOU'RE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK IS.
TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
NOT THAT WE DON'T SINCERELY APPRECIATE OUR CUSTOMER BACK THERE.
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MONEY IS IS SPENT.JERRY TALKED TO US AGAIN ABOUT TIMELINE LIKE YOU'VE GONE, YOU'VE REQUESTED.
A DESIGN AT 14/6? THAT'S CORRECT. AND LIKE I SAID, THE DRIVING FACTOR WAS THINKING ABOUT THE CURRENT USERS.
THINKING ABOUT BASKETBALL AND VOLLEYBALL IN THERE WAS NOT PART OF THE EQUATION.
WE'VE TAKEN IT INTO ACCOUNT IN SOME OTHER AREAS, BUT NOT IN THIS ONE.
THIS ONE WAS MORE OF THE CURRENT CUSTOMERS AND SOME OF THE FUTURE CUSTOMERS, BUT NOT ATHLETICS.
MR. STANLEY'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO DELIVER IT.
WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HIT THE TIMEFRAME.
THIS WAS AN AGGRESSIVE TIME FRAME TO BEGIN WITH.
BUT AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ANOTHER ENGINEERED BUILDING TO GET US TO THOSE ELEVATIONS.
SO AND I DON'T THINK HE'S VERY FAR OFF ON THE COST.
WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS FOR THAT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.